Inserts, High Speed Steel
High speed steel inserts.
These inserts are made from T-15 high speed steel by the A. R. Warner
Co. Combine the advantages of high speed steel cutting tools with the
convenience of indexable tooling.
1724 Insert, TCMW-21.51 High Speed Steel $6.95
1725 Insert, TCMW-21.52 High Speed Steel $6.95
1623 Insert, TPMB-321 High Speed Steel $6.95
1622 Insert, TPMB-322 High Speed Steel $6.95
1722 Insert, TPMW-1.81.5.5 High Speed Steel $6.95
1723 Insert, TPMW-1.81.51 High Speed Steel $6.95
1624 Insert, TPMW-221 High Speed Steel $6.95
1621 Insert, TPMW-222 High Speed Steel $6.95

Damn, nothing in the 321/322 size.

http://www.armurerieduroi.com/pages/...ooling.html#25

Louis Ohland wrote:
Inserts, High Speed Steel
High speed steel inserts.
These inserts are made from T-15 high speed steel by the A. R. Warner
Co. Combine the advantages of high speed steel cutting tools with the
convenience of indexable tooling.
1724 Insert, TCMW-21.51 High Speed Steel $6.95
1725 Insert, TCMW-21.52 High Speed Steel $6.95
1623 Insert, TPMB-321 High Speed Steel $6.95
1622 Insert, TPMB-322 High Speed Steel $6.95
1722 Insert, TPMW-1.81.5.5 High Speed Steel $6.95
1723 Insert, TPMW-1.81.51 High Speed Steel $6.95
1624 Insert, TPMW-221 High Speed Steel $6.95
1621 Insert, TPMW-222 High Speed Steel $6.95

Damn, nothing in the 321/322 size.

http://www.arwarnerco.com/warner_catalog_inserts.html

TPMW-1.8-1.5-.5 SNG-322 CCMW-2-1.5-1 DPMW-2-1.5-1 VBGW-2-1.5-1
TPMW-1.8-1.5-1 SPG-322 CCMW-2-1.5-2 DNMA-431 VCMW-221
TCMW-2-1.5-1 SPG-422 CCMW-3-2.5-.5 DNMA-542 VCMW-222
TCMW-2-1.5-2 SPG-632 CCMW-3-2.5-1 VBGW-221
TPMW-2-1.5-1 SPG-633 CPG-421 VNMA-331
TPG-221 SPG-634 CPG-422 VCMW-331
TPG-222 CNMA-431 VPG-331
TCMW-221 CNMA-432
TPMW-221 CNMA-542

Inserts are standard in T-15 HSS.

Louis Ohland wrote:
http://www.armurerieduroi.com/pages/...ooling.html#25

Louis Ohland wrote:
Inserts, High Speed Steel
High speed steel inserts.
These inserts are made from T-15 high speed steel by the A. R. Warner
Co. Combine the advantages of high speed steel cutting tools with the
convenience of indexable tooling.
1724 Insert, TCMW-21.51 High Speed Steel $6.95
1725 Insert, TCMW-21.52 High Speed Steel $6.95
1623 Insert, TPMB-321 High Speed Steel $6.95
1622 Insert, TPMB-322 High Speed Steel $6.95
1722 Insert, TPMW-1.81.5.5 High Speed Steel $6.95
1723 Insert, TPMW-1.81.51 High Speed Steel $6.95
1624 Insert, TPMW-221 High Speed Steel $6.95
1621 Insert, TPMW-222 High Speed Steel $6.95

Damn, nothing in the 321/322 size.

My apologies, I left off a mess of inserts
TPMW-222
TPG-321
TPG-322
TPMB-322
TCMW-321
TCMW-322
TPMW-321
TNMA-321
TNMA-322
TPG-331
TPG-421
TPG-422
TPG-432
TNMA-432
TPMB-433
TNMA-542


Louis Ohland wrote:
http://www.arwarnerco.com/warner_catalog_inserts.html

TPMW-1.8-1.5-.5 SNG-322 CCMW-2-1.5-1 DPMW-2-1.5-1 VBGW-2-1.5-1
TPMW-1.8-1.5-1 SPG-322 CCMW-2-1.5-2 DNMA-431 VCMW-221
TCMW-2-1.5-1 SPG-422 CCMW-3-2.5-.5 DNMA-542 VCMW-222
TCMW-2-1.5-2 SPG-632 CCMW-3-2.5-1 VBGW-221
TPMW-2-1.5-1 SPG-633 CPG-421 VNMA-331
TPG-221 SPG-634 CPG-422 VCMW-331
TPG-222 CNMA-431 VPG-331
TCMW-221 CNMA-432
TPMW-221 CNMA-542

Inserts are standard in T-15 HSS.

Very tempting. I just today had a chance to demonstrate to my son why
the carbide versions make it hard to take a fine cut and why I switch
back to HSS in holders for such things.

Pete Stanaitis
--------------------------
Louis Ohland wrote:

Inserts, High Speed Steel
High speed steel inserts.
These inserts are made from T-15 high speed steel by the A. R. Warner
Co. Combine the advantages of high speed steel cutting tools with the
convenience of indexable tooling.
1724 Insert, TCMW-21.51 High Speed Steel $6.95
1725 Insert, TCMW-21.52 High Speed Steel $6.95
1623 Insert, TPMB-321 High Speed Steel $6.95
1622 Insert, TPMB-322 High Speed Steel $6.95
1722 Insert, TPMW-1.81.5.5 High Speed Steel $6.95
1723 Insert, TPMW-1.81.51 High Speed Steel $6.95
1624 Insert, TPMW-221 High Speed Steel $6.95
1621 Insert, TPMW-222 High Speed Steel $6.95

Damn, nothing in the 321/322 size.

Carbide doesn't seem to do well on light cuts...

spaco wrote:
Very tempting. I just today had a chance to demonstrate to my son why
the carbide versions make it hard to take a fine cut and why I switch
back to HSS in holders for such things.

Pete Stanaitis
--------------------------
Louis Ohland wrote:

Inserts, High Speed Steel
High speed steel inserts.
These inserts are made from T-15 high speed steel by the A. R. Warner
Co. Combine the advantages of high speed steel cutting tools with the
convenience of indexable tooling.
1724 Insert, TCMW-21.51 High Speed Steel $6.95
1725 Insert, TCMW-21.52 High Speed Steel $6.95
1623 Insert, TPMB-321 High Speed Steel $6.95
1622 Insert, TPMB-322 High Speed Steel $6.95
1722 Insert, TPMW-1.81.5.5 High Speed Steel $6.95
1723 Insert, TPMW-1.81.51 High Speed Steel $6.95
1624 Insert, TPMW-221 High Speed Steel $6.95
1621 Insert, TPMW-222 High Speed Steel $6.95

Damn, nothing in the 321/322 size.

Louis Ohland wrote:

Carbide doesn't seem to do well on light cuts...

Carbide insert tooling was developed for production use on high
horsepower machines rigid enough to make passes to accurate finish size
with heavy cuts, pretty much the exact opposite of most HSM use.

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
Louis Ohland wrote:

Carbide doesn't seem to do well on light cuts...

Carbide insert tooling was developed for production use on high
horsepower machines rigid enough to make passes to accurate finish size
with heavy cuts, pretty much the exact opposite of most HSM use.

Except for sharp, positive-rake, submicrograin carbides, which ought to be
very good for HSM use.

--
Ed Huntress

Who makes them? The holders I have came with TCMT-32.51, whatever the
hell that means

Triangular, screw attached, 3/8 IC

What degree relief? Cutting at fairly low speeds, 150RPM to 750RPM

Materials range from HRS to aluminum. No bronze or stainless or
phenolics, yet.

Ed Huntress wrote:
Except for sharp, positive-rake, submicrograin carbides, which ought to be
very good for HSM use.

--
Ed Huntress

"Louis Ohland" wrote in message
...
Who makes them? The holders I have came with TCMT-32.51, whatever the hell
that means

I don't know who makes them. Several brands appeared around 2000 and 2001,
and then I got out of metalworking and didn't follow up. I had a couple of
samples that I tried on my lathe (SB 10L), and they seemed to work fine.
Those were Seco, sold by Carboloy at the time.

I'm hoping someone who has a need for such inserts will look into it and get
back to us. If I get some time I'll try to do it myself. What you're looking
for is positive-rake inserts made from submicrograin carbide.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:

Those were Seco, sold by Carboloy at the time.

Seco is know to be expensive. :-)

I'm hoping someone who has a need for such inserts will look into it and
get back to us.

What I am using for fine cuts is:
DCMT11T304 SS in CU7033 (uncoated). Not perfect because of the 0.4mm tip
radius. A smaller would be better (but that also depends on your minimum
feed rate).
Suggested parameters:
f (feed): 0.05..0.2 mm / rev
ap (depth of cut): 0.15..0.8 mm BUT it cuts nice down to 0.015 mm.
vc (cutting speed): 115 .. 175 m/min
You always have to try it out and change parameters like feed, cutting speed
and lubrication (this one works very good dry, but only with light (0.2mm
ap) cuts).

Please don't tell me that you do have a different nomenclature for the
inserts. :-)


Nick
--
The lowcost-DRO:
http://www.yadro.de

But it cuts plastic. I used a triangle to cut some white pipe.
The tip was so small - I lusted for a nice round nose HSS. So
I put on my Armstrong holder I made for my Tool post and Turned
the plastic nicely. Then used my carbide cutoff tool to square the ends.

Martin

Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
http://lufkinced.com/


Pete C. wrote:
Louis Ohland wrote:
Carbide doesn't seem to do well on light cuts...

Carbide insert tooling was developed for production use on high
horsepower machines rigid enough to make passes to accurate finish size
with heavy cuts, pretty much the exact opposite of most HSM use.