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O.T. Hearing aids
I have a severe hearing loss in the right ear. In addition voice recognition is less than poor. In other words the right ear is toast even if the volume is cranked up. The left ear has good voice recognition but the higher frequencies need help. This info came from the Mayo clinic. They ran a MRI but the results are not in to see if something can be fixed in the right ear. Apparently hearing loss in one ear is not common and may be caused by a tumor e.g.. I understand that there is a hearing aid system where a hearing aid is placed in both ears. The hearing aid in my right ear would transmit the sound to the other hearing aid. My question is...does anyone have experience with such a system? Any words of wisdom concerning brands recommended or to be avoided would be welcome. I am going to need a hearing aid for the left ear and would like to know if it might be worthwhile to try the two hearing aid system. When you only hear with one ear directional location of the source of sound goes down the toilet. TIA |
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"Unknown" wrote in message ... I have a severe hearing loss in the right ear. In addition voice recognition is less than poor. In other words the right ear is toast even if the volume is cranked up. The left ear has good voice recognition but the higher frequencies need help. This info came from the Mayo clinic. They ran a MRI but the results are not in to see if something can be fixed in the right ear. Apparently hearing loss in one ear is not common and may be caused by a tumor e.g.. I understand that there is a hearing aid system where a hearing aid is placed in both ears. The hearing aid in my right ear would transmit the sound to the other hearing aid. My question is...does anyone have experience with such a system? Any words of wisdom concerning brands recommended or to be avoided would be welcome. I am going to need a hearing aid for the left ear and would like to know if it might be worthwhile to try the two hearing aid system. When you only hear with one ear directional location of the source of sound goes down the toilet. TIA I have the same heaing impairment and my audiologist has never suggested anything like this. I use an aid only for the better ear. Visit a NG for hearing loss to get more information. |
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"Unknown" wrote: (clip) When you only hear with one ear directional location of the source of sound goes down the toilet. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I wear two hearing aids, but they operate independently. Using one hearing aid as a "remote microphone" working through the other side sounds bogus. Each ear hears only one channel. Feeding in another channel will not help your directional discrimination. If anything, it will REDUCE it, because your good ear will be receiving sounds from both sides of your head. There are hearing aids now with more than one microphone, that can be programmed by the wearer to enhance sounds from the front, while cancelling background noise. I have found this to be very effective. If you happen to live in the SF Bay Area, I can recommend an outstanding audiologist--he has a PhD in biophysics, and does an amazing job of improving comprehension. |
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O.T. Hearing aids
On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:30:50 -0600, Unknown
wrote: I have a severe hearing loss in the right ear. In addition voice recognition is less than poor. In other words the right ear is toast even if the volume is cranked up. No experience with a system as you described, but I suspect that you're in competant hands at Mayo. Did they consider you to be a candidate for a cochlear implant on the right side? RWL |
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O.T. Hearing aids - open post
On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:31:32 -0800, "SteveB"
wrote: First thing I heard when I went outside was the birds. I was missing half of life. Watched TV that night at the usual volume number, and said, "Sheesh, that's LOUD!" As I was leaving after picking up my new aids, I noted a periodic loud clunking noise in my car. Uh oh, CV joint? Stopped the car. Clunking continued. Shut off the engine. Clunking still continued. It was the turn signal. |
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"Unknown" wrote in message ... I have a severe hearing loss in the right ear. In addition voice recognition is less than poor. In other words the right ear is toast even if the volume is cranked up. The left ear has good voice recognition but the higher frequencies need help. This info came from the Mayo clinic. They ran a MRI but the results are not in to see if something can be fixed in the right ear. Apparently hearing loss in one ear is not common and may be caused by a tumor e.g.. I understand that there is a hearing aid system where a hearing aid is placed in both ears. The hearing aid in my right ear would transmit the sound to the other hearing aid. My question is...does anyone have experience with such a system? Any words of wisdom concerning brands recommended or to be avoided would be welcome. I am going to need a hearing aid for the left ear and would like to know if it might be worthwhile to try the two hearing aid system. When you only hear with one ear directional location of the source of sound goes down the toilet. TIA There is such a system, IIRC it's called CROS. Phonak has a very good website with lots of information. Costco is now offering a Kirkland Signature hearing aid kit, digital BTE's made by Interton for about $2,000, both ears. I'm considering getting them, tracking a conversation in a noisy environment is tough. |
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O.T. Hearing aids - open post
GeoLane at PTD dot NET wrote in message ... On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:30:50 -0600, Unknown wrote: I have a severe hearing loss in the right ear. In addition voice recognition is less than poor. In other words the right ear is toast even if the volume is cranked up. No experience with a system as you described, but I suspect that you're in competant hands at Mayo. Did they consider you to be a candidate for a cochlear implant on the right side? RWL This is an open post to anyone it is relevant to: I had a life of working in high noise environments. I lost hearing gradually over the years. It gets bad. Everyone but YOU hears the joke. Second time around having it explained to you isn't nearly as funny. You have to watch people's mouths and pay serious attention to catch what's going on. If someone behind or beside you says something, you most of the time don't get it. You are forever asking people to repeat themselves. You listen to TV at loud volumes. My new wife got tired of it, and for Christmas about five years ago gave me a certificate for hearing aids. Yeah, right, I thought. But I went. Got fitted. Waited two weeks for them to come in. Got refitted. Got computer programmed. Yeah, I could hear the difference in the audiologist's office between hearing aids and no hearing aids. Then I left. First thing I heard when I went outside was the birds. I was missing half of life. Watched TV that night at the usual volume number, and said, "Sheesh, that's LOUD!" "No ****," says Wifey. "Now you know what I've been putting up with." If I knew it was going to be this good, I would have gone ten years earlier. If you have a hearing problem, or think you might, go to an audiologist and be tested. From there, you can get top of the line brands on the Internet for about half of what the local crook wants. They will definitely improve your quality of life. Do what it takes. Yes, they do cost. But they are worth it, and some insurance companies pay some of it. Do it for yourself, and everyone around you. Get it as good as it's going to be. Steve |
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O.T. Hearing aids
On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:30:50 -0600, Unknown
wrote: I have a severe hearing loss in the right ear. In addition voice recognition is less than poor. In other words the right ear is toast even if the volume is cranked up. The left ear has good voice recognition but the higher frequencies need help. This info came from the Mayo clinic. They ran a MRI but the results are not in to see if something can be fixed in the right ear. Apparently hearing loss in one ear is not common and may be caused by a tumor e.g.. I understand that there is a hearing aid system where a hearing aid is placed in both ears. The hearing aid in my right ear would transmit the sound to the other hearing aid. My question is...does anyone have experience with such a system? Any words of wisdom concerning brands recommended or to be avoided would be welcome. I am going to need a hearing aid for the left ear and would like to know if it might be worthwhile to try the two hearing aid system. When you only hear with one ear directional location of the source of sound goes down the toilet. TIA I have a pair of these. http://www.siemens-hearing.com/heari...entraLife.aspx They have several volume levels and three programs; phone, normal and noisy. Remote control changes both and monitors battery level. I've had them about a year. Sure made a difference in "understanding" conversation. Batteries last a week or so. --Andy Asberry-- ------Texas----- |
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On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:14:32 -0500, GeoLane at PTD dot NET GeoLane at
PTD dot NET wrote: ,;On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:30:50 -0600, Unknown ,;wrote: ,; ,; ,;I have a severe hearing loss in the right ear. In addition voice ,;recognition is less than poor. In other words the right ear is toast ,;even if the volume is cranked up. ,; ,;No experience with a system as you described, but I suspect that ,;you're in competant hands at Mayo. Did they consider you to be a ,;candidate for a cochlear implant on the right side? Yes the suggestion came from a M.D. at Mayo after a very complete examination. I was there for a check on the new implanted eye lens and had a hearing evaluation the same day. They said the right ear is toast. The problem is that I have no word recognition in that ear so kicking up the volume isn't going to help. He did not suggest a cochlear implant. If the MRI indicates that surgery will correct it I probably will have it done. The "new" eye came out at 20/15 and may improve a bit more. I passed the driver's test easily. The other eye is going to be done next month. If I cover the "new" eye while driving it is absolutely terrifying and that old eye was the "good" one. I had no idea how poor my vision had become. I appreciate the comments. I will continue with Mayo and post any results that might be of interest. |
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O.T. Hearing aids - open post
"David R. Birch" wrote in message ... SteveB wrote: First thing I heard when I went outside was the birds. This was the first thing I realized I'd been missing. I hadn't even noticed until I could hear them again. Now if only they cost as much it should cost to make them and sell them. There isn't $3000 dollars of tech and service a pair in them. David I'd gladly pay twice that if hearing aids could make it so I could hear birds. |
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O.T. Hearing aids - open post
David R. Birch wrote:
SteveB wrote: First thing I heard when I went outside was the birds. This was the first thing I realized I'd been missing. I hadn't even noticed until I could hear them again. Now if only they cost as much it should cost to make them and sell them. There isn't $3000 dollars of tech and service a pair in them. David RIGHT! When a TV set or lap top can be made for a few hundred bucks I'll be Da--d if I'll pay those scalpers the fortune they want for a hearing aid. I worked in the electronic industry for 50 yrs and I would guess it costs about 100$ for one of those they want thousands for. I'll put up with my hearing loss. :-( ...lew... |
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"David R. Birch" wrote in message ... SteveB wrote: First thing I heard when I went outside was the birds. This was the first thing I realized I'd been missing. I hadn't even noticed until I could hear them again. Now if only they cost as much it should cost to make them and sell them. There isn't $3000 dollars of tech and service a pair in them. David They are outrageously expensive. A friend of mine got a pair online that are the top of the line with all the latest bells and whistles. Still a lot of money. But, you get what you pay for, and I consider mine worth what I paid for them. Steve |
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"Unknown" wrote I appreciate the comments. I will continue with Mayo and post any results that might be of interest. All the best to you. |
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SteveB wrote:
This is an open post to anyone it is relevant to: I had a life of working in high noise environments. I lost hearing gradually over the years. It gets bad. Everyone but YOU hears the joke. Second time around having it explained to you isn't nearly as funny. You have to watch people's mouths and pay serious attention to catch what's going on. If someone behind or beside you says something, you most of the time don't get it. You are forever asking people to repeat themselves. You listen to TV at loud volumes. My new wife got tired of it, and for Christmas about five years ago gave me a certificate for hearing aids. Yeah, right, I thought. But I went. Got fitted. Waited two weeks for them to come in. Got refitted. Got computer programmed. Yeah, I could hear the difference in the audiologist's office between hearing aids and no hearing aids. Then I left. First thing I heard when I went outside was the birds. I was missing half of life. Watched TV that night at the usual volume number, and said, "Sheesh, that's LOUD!" "No ****," says Wifey. "Now you know what I've been putting up with." If I knew it was going to be this good, I would have gone ten years earlier. If you have a hearing problem, or think you might, go to an audiologist and be tested. From there, you can get top of the line brands on the Internet for about half of what the local crook wants. They will definitely improve your quality of life. Do what it takes. Yes, they do cost. But they are worth it, and some insurance companies pay some of it. Do it for yourself, and everyone around you. Get it as good as it's going to be. Steve I have two sets now. First set is completely in the ear - ok, but still can't hear on the left side. THe other (new) set is not complely inside the ear. Slightly protruding but WAY LOUDER! I can actually hear something on the left side. Neither of them are very comfortable as they both have hard plastic case. Wish they could make them with firm silicone or such... $4000 for the first pair, $8000 for the second. For that kind of money I want comfort too! Richard |
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"David R. Birch" wrote in message ... SteveB wrote: First thing I heard when I went outside was the birds. This was the first thing I realized I'd been missing. I hadn't even noticed until I could hear them again. Now if only they cost as much it should cost to make them and sell them. There isn't $3000 dollars of tech and service a pair in them. David Costco has one of the best digital hearing aids you can get at $2,000 a pair, which includes various paraphernalia in a kit. They are made by Interton, which is a prominent German manufacturer. My experience dealing with Costco for hearing aids for a family member has been very good, including follow up service and repairs. |
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"cavelamb himself" wrote or such... $4000 for the first pair, $8000 for the second. For that kind of money I want comfort too! Richard I have a guy in Las Vegas that has top of the line goods at lower prices. Now you can get better prices on the Internet, too. Mine were $4k at the hearing aid store, and $2500 from him. I haven't forgotten you, either. We go to Vegas this week, and I'm GOING to get over to Curtis for some SS, as I want to do a fountain project, and will probably be buying a small TIG soon. Steve |
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SteveB wrote:
"cavelamb himself" wrote or such... $4000 for the first pair, $8000 for the second. For that kind of money I want comfort too! Richard I have a guy in Las Vegas that has top of the line goods at lower prices. Now you can get better prices on the Internet, too. Mine were $4k at the hearing aid store, and $2500 from him. I haven't forgotten you, either. We go to Vegas this week, and I'm GOING to get over to Curtis for some SS, as I want to do a fountain project, and will probably be buying a small TIG soon. Steve I "hear" that, Steve Richard |
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"SteveB" (clip) From there, you can get top of the line brands on the Internet for about half of what the local crook wants. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is the only part of your message that I take issue with. Fitting a hearing aid is more than making an earmold and adjusting the volume control. Hearing loss varies from person to person, and the new digital hearing aids can be programmed to fit the individual's need. My audiologist measures the person's loss and enters the curve into his computer. He inserts tiny flexible tubing into the patient's ears, so he can take out a signal of what the hearing aid is doing. He then superimposes the hearing loss curve, so he actually hears the same thing as the patient. Between what he hears, and what the patient tells him, he is able to tune the hearing aid to produce good intelligibility, It's much more than making things louder. |
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