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More on the Segway
"How Things Work" has a video and some pretty detailed text about what's
inside the Segways. He http://videos.howstuffworks.com/segway-mini-video.htm Jeff (Who still regards the Segway as the answer to the question nobody asked...) -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight. |
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More on the Segway
Jeff Wisnia wrote:
"How Things Work" has a video and some pretty detailed text about what's inside the Segways. He http://videos.howstuffworks.com/segway-mini-video.htm Jeff (Who still regards the Segway as the answer to the question nobody asked...) Other than being a bit nifty from a technology perspective, the only benefit I see to a Segway is that it's a bit more practical to take on public transit than a conventional bicycle. |
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Pete C. wrote:
Jeff Wisnia wrote: "How Things Work" has a video and some pretty detailed text about what's inside the Segways. He http://videos.howstuffworks.com/segway-mini-video.htm Jeff (Who still regards the Segway as the answer to the question nobody asked...) Other than being a bit nifty from a technology perspective, the only benefit I see to a Segway is that it's a bit more practical to take on public transit than a conventional bicycle. Hmm, will walking go out of style? Maybe each newborn will be given a Segway, and never need to learn to walk. |
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Louis Ohland wrote:
Hmm, will walking go out of style? Maybe each newborn will be given a Segway, and never need to learn to walk. Hmmm, wonder what changes Zagar and Evans would make to their sole hit, 'In the Year 2525' if they were to update it today? Maybe just have to revise the dates.... "In the year fifty five fifty five your arms are hangin' limp at your side Your legs got nothin' to do some machines doin' that for you." Jon |
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Hmmm, wonder what changes Zagar and Evans would make to their sole hit,
'In the Year 2525' if they were to update it today? Maybe just have to revise the dates.... "In the year fifty five fifty five your arms are hangin' limp at your side Your legs got nothin' to do some machines doin' that for you." Jon ROFL (showing our age.....) |
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On Oct 2, 3:45 pm, Jon Anderson wrote:
Louis Ohland wrote: Hmm, will walking go out of style? Maybe each newborn will be given a Segway, and never need to learn to walk. Hmmm, wonder what changes Zagar and Evans would make to their sole hit, 'In the Year 2525' if they were to update it today? Maybe just have to revise the dates.... "In the year fifty five fifty five your arms are hangin' limp at your side Your legs got nothin' to do some machines doin' that for you." Jon Guess you never rode a rough trail on one. The path along the river behind their plant is as hard on the ankles as cross-country skiing. Jim Wilkins |
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Louis Ohland wrote:
Pete C. wrote: Jeff Wisnia wrote: "How Things Work" has a video and some pretty detailed text about what's inside the Segways. He http://videos.howstuffworks.com/segway-mini-video.htm Jeff (Who still regards the Segway as the answer to the question nobody asked...) Other than being a bit nifty from a technology perspective, the only benefit I see to a Segway is that it's a bit more practical to take on public transit than a conventional bicycle. Hmm, will walking go out of style? Maybe each newborn will be given a Segway, and never need to learn to walk. That's what Mad Magazine said about scooters back in the 1960s. They predicted that legs would become vestigial |
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:51:21 GMT, Pete C. wrote:
Other than being a bit nifty from a technology perspective, the only benefit I see to a Segway is that it's a bit more practical to take on public transit than a conventional bicycle. They're bulky, though. Best use I've seen is for a guy who would otherwise be in a wheelchair, due to a few abbreviated limbs. Pretty impressive how manouverable it is; his wheels are larger than stock and I think he said it's "geared" differently (but I'm pretty sure it's direct drive from the motor). |
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The school I work for has about 8 or 10 of them campus wide. 1 is in our
department. The campus is about 1 mile on each of the 4 sides, so we have a lot of ground to cover. The staff that uses our Segway, is almost fully estimators that need to carry very little equipment, but do sometime need to be across campus quickly. The tech's seldom use the Segway, because we need to carry tools and supplies. The other options, for both groups, are electric GEM carts (which I drive daily and love) and small trucks (toyota) and vans (various makes). The segway fills in as a communal use light duty transport. Its strength is that its maneuverable, fairly fast, easy to use and just plain fun. The maint cost has been far lower then the Gem carts and the trucks etc. And its a blast to ride. Ours is the off road version, as we have some folks that are big and tall!!!! In our setting, a campus, the Segway is a perfect fit!!!!!!!!! bob in phx. "Dave Hinz" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:51:21 GMT, Pete C. wrote: Other than being a bit nifty from a technology perspective, the only benefit I see to a Segway is that it's a bit more practical to take on public transit than a conventional bicycle. They're bulky, though. Best use I've seen is for a guy who would otherwise be in a wheelchair, due to a few abbreviated limbs. Pretty impressive how manouverable it is; his wheels are larger than stock and I think he said it's "geared" differently (but I'm pretty sure it's direct drive from the motor). |
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More on the Segway
Jeff Wisnia wrote:
"How Things Work" has a video and some pretty detailed text about what's inside the Segways. He http://videos.howstuffworks.com/segway-mini-video.htm Jeff (Who still regards the Segway as the answer to the question nobody asked...) Here is a web site from a guy that built his own segway clone: http://www.tlb.org/scooter.html He gives pretty good detail on it - probably enough to duplicate. Bob |
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"Bob in Phx" wrote in
: The school I work for has about 8 or 10 of them campus wide. 1 is in our department. The campus is about 1 mile on each of the 4 sides, so we have a lot of ground to cover. The staff that uses our Segway, is almost fully estimators that need to carry very little equipment, but do sometime need to be across campus quickly. The tech's seldom use the Segway, because we need to carry tools and supplies. The other options, for both groups, are electric GEM carts (which I drive daily and love) and small trucks (toyota) and vans (various makes). The segway fills in as a communal use light duty transport. Its strength is that its maneuverable, fairly fast, easy to use and just plain fun. The maint cost has been far lower then the Gem carts and the trucks etc. And its a blast to ride. Ours is the off road version, as we have some folks that are big and tall!!!! In our setting, a campus, the Segway is a perfect fit!!!!!!!!! snip I was down at the Franklin Institute in Philly for the King Tut exibit and noticed that a bunch of guards were running around the building on Segways. Talked to one guard who said they use them alot and had just gotten a bunch of new ones, I asked her if anyone had tried them down the stairs yet and was told that she hadn't seen anyone do that 'yet' but they do race them around on slow afternoons. Bill |
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Bob in Phx wrote:
The school I work for has about 8 or 10 of them campus wide. 1 is in our department. The campus is about 1 mile on each of the 4 sides, so we have a lot of ground to cover. The staff that uses our Segway, is almost fully estimators that need to carry very little equipment, but do sometime need to be across campus quickly. The tech's seldom use the Segway, because we need to carry tools and supplies. The other options, for both groups, are electric GEM carts (which I drive daily and love) and small trucks (toyota) and vans (various makes). The segway fills in as a communal use light duty transport. Its strength is that its maneuverable, fairly fast, easy to use and just plain fun. The maint cost has been far lower then the Gem carts and the trucks etc. And its a blast to ride. Ours is the off road version, as we have some folks that are big and tall!!!! In our setting, a campus, the Segway is a perfect fit!!!!!!!!! So basically the expensive Segway is replacing a simple bicycle in functionality at a great increase in cost and a reduction in exercise. Sounds like a wonderful innovation. It of course wouldn't be trendy, but perhaps you should investigate the pedal tricycles I've seen used in many large factories. They are low cost, low maintenance, "green", give modest exercise and have nice sized cargo baskets that easily carry most tools. |
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Bill wrote:
"Bob in Phx" wrote in : The school I work for has about 8 or 10 of them campus wide. 1 is in our department. The campus is about 1 mile on each of the 4 sides, so we have a lot of ground to cover. The staff that uses our Segway, is almost fully estimators that need to carry very little equipment, but do sometime need to be across campus quickly. The tech's seldom use the Segway, because we need to carry tools and supplies. The other options, for both groups, are electric GEM carts (which I drive daily and love) and small trucks (toyota) and vans (various makes). The segway fills in as a communal use light duty transport. Its strength is that its maneuverable, fairly fast, easy to use and just plain fun. The maint cost has been far lower then the Gem carts and the trucks etc. And its a blast to ride. Ours is the off road version, as we have some folks that are big and tall!!!! In our setting, a campus, the Segway is a perfect fit!!!!!!!!! snip I was down at the Franklin Institute in Philly for the King Tut exibit and noticed that a bunch of guards were running around the building on Segways. Talked to one guard who said they use them alot and had just gotten a bunch of new ones, I asked her if anyone had tried them down the stairs yet and was told that she hadn't seen anyone do that 'yet' but they do race them around on slow afternoons. Bill Ditto that for the "Tech Museum" in San Jose, when we visited there last month. Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight. |
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On Oct 3, 8:37 am, Bill wrote:
.... I asked her if anyone had tried them down the stairs yet and was told that she hadn't seen anyone do that 'yet' but they do race them around on slow afternoons. Bill There are stairs in the factory test track but only the craziest engineers ride on them. The fixed-handle model has a powered stairway assist mode that lets you climb stairs dismounted, like pushing a reel- type lawnmower. |
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"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message ps.com... On Oct 3, 8:37 am, Bill wrote: ... I asked her if anyone had tried them down the stairs yet and was told that she hadn't seen anyone do that 'yet' but they do race them around on slow afternoons. Bill There are stairs in the factory test track but only the craziest engineers ride on them. The fixed-handle model has a powered stairway assist mode that lets you climb stairs dismounted, like pushing a reel- type lawnmower. This is a great thing for the human spirit. Security guards *need* things like racing Segways and climbing stairs with them on off hours. It's their little version of hitting golfballs on the moon. -- Ed Huntress |
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"Pete C." wrote in message ... Bob in Phx wrote: The school I work for has about 8 or 10 of them campus wide. 1 is in our department. The campus is about 1 mile on each of the 4 sides, so we have a lot of ground to cover. The staff that uses our Segway, is almost fully estimators that need to carry very little equipment, but do sometime need to be across campus quickly. The tech's seldom use the Segway, because we need to carry tools and supplies. The other options, for both groups, are electric GEM carts (which I drive daily and love) and small trucks (toyota) and vans (various makes). The segway fills in as a communal use light duty transport. Its strength is that its maneuverable, fairly fast, easy to use and just plain fun. The maint cost has been far lower then the Gem carts The GEM carts are fun to drive, but they are really junk. We have a dead one in the garage that I'm tempted to hoist on top of a conex, since the POS battery charger needs to be replaced at an exorbitant cost. |
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:38:47 -0700, "Bob in Phx"
wrote: The school I work for has about 8 or 10 of them campus wide. 1 is in our department. The campus is about 1 mile on each of the 4 sides, so we have a lot of ground to cover. The staff that uses our Segway, is almost fully estimators that need to carry very little equipment, but do sometime need to be across campus quickly. The tech's seldom use the Segway, because we need to carry tools and supplies. The other options, for both groups, are electric GEM carts (which I drive daily and love) and small trucks (toyota) and vans (various makes). The segway fills in as a communal use light duty transport. Its strength is that its maneuverable, fairly fast, easy to use and just plain fun. The maint cost has been far lower then the Gem carts and the trucks etc. And its a blast to ride. Ours is the off road version, as we have some folks that are big and tall!!!! In our setting, a campus, the Segway is a perfect fit!!!!!!!!! bob in phx. While waiting to meet SWMBO at Detroit Metro airport in June '06, I observed one of the security staff taking a shortcut and carrying his segway down a flight of stairs. Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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They have 4 wheel versions that are nice. I want one of those.
Something like a 4-wheeler used in forest and ranch/farm/hunting... I'd love one to fetch the mail. That is 400 feet from the house. Martin Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ Pete C. wrote: Jeff Wisnia wrote: "How Things Work" has a video and some pretty detailed text about what's inside the Segways. He http://videos.howstuffworks.com/segway-mini-video.htm Jeff (Who still regards the Segway as the answer to the question nobody asked...) Other than being a bit nifty from a technology perspective, the only benefit I see to a Segway is that it's a bit more practical to take on public transit than a conventional bicycle. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Pete, the bike thing has been tried time and time again. It doesn't work.
But what does work is the fact most of the students and staff ride some sort of thing in from the parking lots, early in the mornings. Some skateboards, some push scooters, some bikes....etc... Now I don't know if you have ever lived in phoenix AZ, but it gets bloody hot here, so getting from air conditioned building to air conditioned building, without working up such a sweat that no one would like to be in the same room with you , is not easy. Thus the segway. Or the gem carts if you have to move tools and supplies around (I keep about 350 pounds of stuff in the locked cabinet on the back of my Gem) The Segway and or Gems, get us from point A to point B quickly, reliability, safely and they are fun. So, Bottom line is that trendy does not enter into it. and I don't appreciate that comment or the tone of your other comments... Have a nice day...... "Pete C." wrote in message ... Bob in Phx wrote: The school I work for has about 8 or 10 of them campus wide. 1 is in our department. The campus is about 1 mile on each of the 4 sides, so we have a lot of ground to cover. The staff that uses our Segway, is almost fully estimators that need to carry very little equipment, but do sometime need to be across campus quickly. The tech's seldom use the Segway, because we need to carry tools and supplies. The other options, for both groups, are electric GEM carts (which I drive daily and love) and small trucks (toyota) and vans (various makes). The segway fills in as a communal use light duty transport. Its strength is that its maneuverable, fairly fast, easy to use and just plain fun. The maint cost has been far lower then the Gem carts and the trucks etc. And its a blast to ride. Ours is the off road version, as we have some folks that are big and tall!!!! In our setting, a campus, the Segway is a perfect fit!!!!!!!!! So basically the expensive Segway is replacing a simple bicycle in functionality at a great increase in cost and a reduction in exercise. Sounds like a wonderful innovation. It of course wouldn't be trendy, but perhaps you should investigate the pedal tricycles I've seen used in many large factories. They are low cost, low maintenance, "green", give modest exercise and have nice sized cargo baskets that easily carry most tools. |
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Bob in Phx wrote:
Pete, the bike thing has been tried time and time again. It doesn't work. But what does work is the fact most of the students and staff ride some sort of thing in from the parking lots, early in the mornings. Some skateboards, some push scooters, some bikes....etc... I'll note that all the items you mentioned are human powered. Now I don't know if you have ever lived in phoenix AZ, but it gets bloody hot here, so getting from air conditioned building to air conditioned building, without working up such a sweat that no one would like to be in the same room with you , is not easy. I'm in Texas, and it gets hot here too, perhaps with a little more humidity. I don't find it to be an issue getting from building to building or parking lot to building. Thus the segway. Or the gem carts if you have to move tools and supplies around (I keep about 350 pounds of stuff in the locked cabinet on the back of my Gem) The Segway and or Gems, get us from point A to point B quickly, reliability, safely and they are fun. So, Bottom line is that trendy does not enter into it. and I don't appreciate that comment or the tone of your other comments... Have a nice day...... Trendy sure does enter into it, the trend away from routine exercise which is a big contributor to the obesity issues in the US. If the trend keeps up we'll end up a country of "power chair" users who can barely get on and off the dang things. Considering how recent the Segway is, they sure aren't essential and people have survived the conditions you indicate just fine for decades. |
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Rex wrote: [...] Hmm, will walking go out of style? Maybe each newborn will be given a Segway, and never need to learn to walk. That's what Mad Magazine said about scooters back in the 1960s. They predicted that legs would become vestigial As I look around town, I think they were right. -- B.B. --I am not a goat! thegoat4 at airmail dot net |
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