Hi all,

General Motors, builders of vehicle shaped objects that still include
limited metal content have really embarrassed themselves with this
one... absolutely beyond belief.

http://digg.com/environment/General_..._Rush_Limbaugh
_Eco_Friendly_Ad

Sorry about the long link, the tinyurl link below points to the same
'digg' listing.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2n5wkk

Erik

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:09:27 GMT, Erik wrote:

Hi all,

General Motors, builders of vehicle shaped objects that still include
limited metal content have really embarrassed themselves with this
one... absolutely beyond belief.

http://digg.com/environment/General_..._Rush_Limbaugh
_Eco_Friendly_Ad

Sorry about the long link, the tinyurl link below points to the same
'digg' listing.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2n5wkk

Erik

"they (GM) have ... a ton of momentum..." Guess what, Rush, a ton is
a measure of mass and hence inertia. Momentum would be ton-feet/sec.

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:09:27 GMT, Erik wrote:

Hi all,

General Motors, builders of vehicle shaped objects that still include
limited metal content have really embarrassed themselves with this
one... absolutely beyond belief.

http://digg.com/environment/General_..._Rush_Limbaugh
_Eco_Friendly_Ad

Sorry about the long link, the tinyurl link below points to the same
'digg' listing.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2n5wkk

Erik
=========
In one respect you are correct.

It does not appear the Rush makes any claims, but I know that he
and his shows are expensive.

This makes me question the sanity of GMC's management in that
they turned a profit and are again blowing the money on fru-fru
juice rather than paying down debt, funding pensions, developing
new vehicles [and correcting old problems] and as a last resort,
paying dividends.
click on
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070731/...L_MrA0GzuyBhIF

It is also not clear if this was what you and I would call a
profit as in "show me the money," or if it is more Enron
accounting, i.e. trading the dog that is on the books for 10,000$
for two cats "worth" 6,000$ each and booking a 2,000$ profit.

The falling US dollar and the fact that the earnings were mainly
generated over-seas indicates these may be more currency
speculation than manufacturing "profits." FWIW -- GMC pays no US
corporate tax on foreign "profits" until that money is
repatriated to the domestic corporation, while sucking hard on
the US tit, and evading 100% pension funding.


Unka' George [George McDuffee]
============
Merchants have no country.
The mere spot they stand on
does not constitute so strong an attachment
as that from which they draw their gains.

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826),
U.S. president. Letter, 17 March 1814.

On Jul 31, 7:09 pm, Erik wrote:
Hi all,

General Motors, builders of vehicle shaped objects that still include
limited metal content have really embarrassed themselves with this
one... absolutely beyond belief.

http://digg.com/environment/General_...With_Rush_Limb...
_Eco_Friendly_Ad

Sorry about the long link, the tinyurl link below points to the same
'digg' listing.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2n5wkk

Erik

It does sound a little strange (OK very strange) on the surface, but
advertising is seldom logical because so few people spend their money
logically. A few years back the state of Florida was advertising
"Florida Orange Juice" on Rush's program, both the orange juice sales
and the liberals blood pressure went up significantly. Liberal groups
called state senators and representatives and got the advertisements
pulled from the show, sales and blood pressure return to pre-Limbaugh
levels. Rush has a big fan base, I would not bet against this selling
a significant number of cars.

What I thought was really, really strange was Peter Coors running for
senate as a family values candidate after years of running beer
advertisements featuring scantily clad young ladies and leering
drunks. Go figure.

Carl Boyd

Don Foreman wrote:


"they (GM) have ... a ton of momentum..." Guess what, Rush, a ton is
a measure of mass and hence inertia. Momentum would be ton-feet/sec.

Chill out, Don. Would you have been happy
if he'd said "... a buttload of momentum..."?

Listen to the radio program a coupla times so
you can hear the context.


technomaNge
--
I listen to Rush daily on WVNN 770 AM

Link: radiotime.com/station/s_23578/WVNN_770.aspx

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:05:02 -0500, technomaNge
wrote:

Don Foreman wrote:


"they (GM) have ... a ton of momentum..." Guess what, Rush, a ton is
a measure of mass and hence inertia. Momentum would be ton-feet/sec.

Chill out, Don. Would you have been happy
if he'd said "... a buttload of momentum..."?

Listen to the radio program a coupla times so
you can hear the context.


technomaNge

I think I heard the context OK: GM bought an endorsement from a media
whore. Rush and others, regardless of perceived political position or
posture, tell what sells one way or another. It's a job that
produces very nice income for them and they're good at it. Free
enterprise and first amendment. It's part of what we're all about, or
say we are until our ox gets scraped.

My comment was meant as a frivolous tongue-in-cheek nerdy nitpick. I
continue to believe, or perhaps hope, that there are still some
readers of this forum with a modicum of inteligence, tolerance,
civility and sense of humor.

Chill out, ol' Son of pseudonym screen-name anonymity.

Herr Nick Mueller may irritate the hell out of some, but he has the
integrity to sign his name AFAIK.

Don Foreman wrote in article
...

Herr Nick Mueller may irritate the hell out of some, but he has the
integrity to sign his name AFAIK.



Now THAT's funny!

I occasionally get my chops busted for my preferred nickname and obviously
phony e-mail addy, yet I would suggest that a large percentage of names
that appear to be real are actually fake.

For example, had I chosen to use a phony name such as "John Rushton", and
used the phony e-mail ", everybody would assume that
I am John Rushton and "legit."

Here's a challenge.....I've done it!

Go to ANY ten posters with legitimate-appearing names who you do not know
personally and have never had an e-mail exchange with, and send an e-mail
to the addy they have listed.....making the appropriate anti-SPAM
"adjustments" of course.

I bet more than 50 percent do not go through due to the e-mails being
false......That's been MY experience.

If the e-mail is false, how can you be sure that the actual name is NOT
false?

You CAN'T!

The very structure of the Internet is not conducive to truthfulness.

These newsgroups are but a mere extension of CB Radio.....Disconnected
electronic personas.

Yes, there are, indeed, SOME people who use their "real" names and e-mail
addys, but they are the exception to the rule......

.....and they are also the ones whose e-mail boxes are overflowing with
SPAM.

SPAMMERS, too, can figure out how to "drop all the X's" to latch onto the
"real" e-mail addy.

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:42:03 -0500, Don Foreman wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:09:27 GMT, Erik wrote:

Hi all,

General Motors, builders of vehicle shaped objects that still include
limited metal content have really embarrassed themselves with this
one... absolutely beyond belief.

http://digg.com/environment/General_..._Rush_Limbaugh
_Eco_Friendly_Ad

Sorry about the long link, the tinyurl link below points to the same
'digg' listing.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2n5wkk

Erik

"they (GM) have ... a ton of momentum..." Guess what, Rush, a ton is
a measure of mass and hence inertia. Momentum would be ton-feet/sec.

So when they grind to a halt they'll never be able to start up again?

--
Tim Wescott
Control systems and communications consulting
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Need to learn how to apply control theory in your embedded system?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" by Tim Wescott
Elsevier/Newnes, http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html

Don Foreman wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:05:02 -0500, technomaNge

technomaNge

I think I heard the context OK: GM bought an endorsement from a media
whore. Rush and others, regardless of perceived political position or
posture, tell what sells one way or another. It's a job that
produces very nice income for them and they're good at it. Free
enterprise and first amendment. It's part of what we're all about, or
say we are until our ox gets scraped.

My comment was meant as a frivolous tongue-in-cheek nerdy nitpick. I
continue to believe, or perhaps hope, that there are still some
readers of this forum with a modicum of inteligence, tolerance,
civility and sense of humor.

Chill out, ol' Son of pseudonym screen-name anonymity.

Herr Nick Mueller may irritate the hell out of some, but he has the
integrity to sign his name AFAIK.

Wow! Don, I have read and liked your posts for a while.

1. I didn't see the smilie, so took your humor as insult.
2. I have been carrying this screen name(4) so long it is a habit.
3. Now I'm insulted...comparing me to Herr Mueller

4. I usta read posts from someone named Technomage, a real
wizard at troubleshooting computer problems remotely.
As I got more into computer-repair/networking, I realized
that I just had mangey luck when attempting repairs.
Therefore my techno mangey screen nickname.


technomaNge
--
the anonymous pseudonym guy

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 22:56:36 -0500, technomaNge
wrote:

Don Foreman wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:05:02 -0500, technomaNge

technomaNge

I think I heard the context OK: GM bought an endorsement from a media
whore. Rush and others, regardless of perceived political position or
posture, tell what sells one way or another. It's a job that
produces very nice income for them and they're good at it. Free
enterprise and first amendment. It's part of what we're all about, or
say we are until our ox gets scraped.

My comment was meant as a frivolous tongue-in-cheek nerdy nitpick. I
continue to believe, or perhaps hope, that there are still some
readers of this forum with a modicum of inteligence, tolerance,
civility and sense of humor.

Chill out, ol' Son of pseudonym screen-name anonymity.

Herr Nick Mueller may irritate the hell out of some, but he has the
integrity to sign his name AFAIK.

Wow! Don, I have read and liked your posts for a while.

1. I didn't see the smilie, so took your humor as insult.
2. I have been carrying this screen name(4) so long it is a habit.
3. Now I'm insulted...comparing me to Herr Mueller

4. I usta read posts from someone named Technomage, a real
wizard at troubleshooting computer problems remotely.
As I got more into computer-repair/networking, I realized
that I just had mangey luck when attempting repairs.
Therefore my techno mangey screen nickname.


technomaNge

I think I was having an owly night -- which is no excuse. My
apologies. I certainly did not intend to compare you to anyone.