In article ,
Old Nick wrote:
On 16 Jun 2004 01:23:47 -0400, (DoN. Nichols)
vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Don. This is weird. I tried _emailing_ one of those emsil addresses.
Nuh!

I've just e-mailed them (both addresses), explaining the problem
as perceived.

In the meanwhile, is your e-mail address given above a valid
one? I was going to include your e-mail address in my e-mail, so they
could try from that end. But unless I am sure that it is a valid e-mail
address, I won't try that.

And is it one of the challenge-and-response ones? If so, they
may decide that it is too much trouble to bother with. I personally
*hate* challenge-and-response systems -- especially those which don't
even tell me what address I supposedly sent to, so I can be sure that
I'm authenticating myself, instead of a spammer. :-)

Good Luck,
DoN.
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On 16 Jun 2004 22:42:39 -0400, (DoN. Nichols)
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

In article ,
Old Nick wrote:
On 16 Jun 2004 01:23:47 -0400, (DoN. Nichols)
vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Don. This is weird. I tried _emailing_ one of those emsil addresses.
Nuh!

I've just e-mailed them (both addresses), explaining the problem
as perceived.

In the meanwhile, is your e-mail address given above a valid
one?

I was going to include your e-mail address in my e-mail, so they
could try from that end. But unless I am sure that it is a valid e-mail
address, I won't try that.

And is it one of the challenge-and-response ones? If so, they
may decide that it is too much trouble to bother with. I personally
*hate* challenge-and-response systems -- especially those which don't
even tell me what address I supposedly sent to, so I can be sure that
I'm authenticating myself, instead of a spammer. :-)

I _think_ email addresss in text are safe so far....

remove ns from my header address to reply via email

No gotchas. It just stays on my provider's
site, I collect manually, and I will dump it if I start to have
trouble. Sort of a "challenge and response". If I get someone genwine,
I let them know my proper email address. Any correspondence from then
on is via that one.

In article ,
Old Nick wrote:
On 16 Jun 2004 22:42:39 -0400, (DoN. Nichols)
vaguely proposed a theory

[ ... ]

I've just e-mailed them (both addresses), explaining the problem
as perceived.

I've gotten a response from them, and I'll cut-and-paste it from
their response.

================================================== ====================
Don,
We have received e-mail from N F White and have responded but are not
sure we have gotten through.
We have an exclusive distributor for Australia:
"BILLEROY""
195 BAILEY'S LANE
OBERON NSW 27
AUSTRALIA

e-mail Keith Cleton

Ron
================================================== ====================

Is that (N F White) you?

It sounds as though they could not sell direct to you, if they
have an exclusive distributor there. But hopefully, the mark up for
them is not too bad.

I hope that this helps,
DoN.
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On 17 Jun 2004 16:29:05 -0400, (DoN. Nichols)
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:

remove ns from my header address to reply via email


I've just e-mailed them (both addresses), explaining the problem
as perceived.

Thanks, Don.


I've gotten a response from them, and I'll cut-and-paste it from
their response.

================================================== ====================
Don,
We have received e-mail from N F White and have responded but are not
sure we have gotten through.

Huh? My email bounced! I had a bounce, let alone get a reply!


Is that (N F White) you?

It is me. Ahah! I faxed them! Not email. Email would have been
"nfwhite"

TMK I have not had a fax back from them. I'll try again.

Did they say anything about the website?

We have an exclusive distributor for Australia:
"BILLEROY""
195 BAILEY'S LANE
OBERON NSW 27
AUSTRALIA

e-mail Keith Cleton

Ron
================================================== ====================

It sounds as though they could not sell direct to you, if they
have an exclusive distributor there. But hopefully, the mark up for
them is not too bad.

humph! We shall see....maybe. Sounds like a farmer thinking "That's a
good idea", to me.

I know Bailey's (naming coincidence) in the US were happy to sell to
me, exclusive or not. But they just keep saying the chain won't fit,
and I disagree. That's why I wanted to talk to Rapco.


I hope that this helps,

Appreciated.

In article ,
Old Nick wrote:
On 17 Jun 2004 16:29:05 -0400, (DoN. Nichols)
vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:

[ ... ]

Don,
We have received e-mail from N F White and have responded but are not
sure we have gotten through.

Huh? My email bounced! I had a bounce, let alone get a reply!

:-)

Sometimes a bounce is a temporary one -- a "we can't deliver
your mail so far, but we'll keep trying" type of thing.


Is that (N F White) you?

It is me. Ahah! I faxed them! Not email. Email would have been
"nfwhite"

O.K.

TMK I have not had a fax back from them. I'll try again.

Did they say anything about the website?

Not a word, by which I assume that they are pretty clueless
about the workings of their web page. IIRC, some other firm took the
credit for the page's design and implementation. And it may be that
still a third party is responsible for the blocks.

We have an exclusive distributor for Australia:
"BILLEROY""
195 BAILEY'S LANE
OBERON NSW 27
AUSTRALIA

e-mail Keith Cleton

Ron
================================================== ====================

It sounds as though they could not sell direct to you, if they
have an exclusive distributor there. But hopefully, the mark up for
them is not too bad.

humph! We shall see....maybe. Sounds like a farmer thinking "That's a
good idea", to me.

:-)

I know Bailey's (naming coincidence) in the US were happy to sell to
me, exclusive or not. But they just keep saying the chain won't fit,
and I disagree. That's why I wanted to talk to Rapco.

O.K. Are the chain pitches sometimes in metric units, and
sometimes in inches, depending on country of origin?


I hope that this helps,

Appreciated.

Let us know what happens.

Good luck,
DoN.

P.S. Is it time to straighten out the spelling of "carbide" in the
"Subject: " header? My spelling checker keeps stumbling over
that one. :-)
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On 17 Jun 2004 21:44:44 -0400, (DoN. Nichols)
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:

remove ns from my header address to reply via email



Sometimes a bounce is a temporary one -- a "we can't deliver
your mail so far, but we'll keep trying" type of thing.

I quote from the bounce

"Sorry, I couldn't find any host by that name. (#4.1.2)
I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too
long."

Sounds pretty final to me G

Anyway we sorted what really happened. G

It is me. Ahah! I faxed them! Not email. Email would have been
"nfwhite"

O.K.


Did they say anything about the website?

Not a word, by which I assume that they are pretty clueless
about the workings of their web page. IIRC, some other firm took the
credit for the page's design and implementation. And it may be that
still a third party is responsible for the blocks.


I know Bailey's (naming coincidence) in the US were happy to sell to
me, exclusive or not. But they just keep saying the chain won't fit,
and I disagree. That's why I wanted to talk to Rapco.

O.K. Are the chain pitches sometimes in metric units, and
sometimes in inches, depending on country of origin?

No. I am happy to deal in Imperial...sorry...inches. The only thing is
sometimes it's 3/8" and sometimes .375. Then there is .370...go
figure. 1/200th of an inch! Thsi guy tells me the saw only takes .325"
and .370. But everybody else says 3/8".....then there is low profile,
etc.

Let us know what happens.

Will do.

P.S. Is it time to straighten out the spelling of "carbide" in the
"Subject: " header? My spelling checker keeps stumbling over
that one. :-)

Ok. It will lose the thread, but I take your point. Do you show all
header fields? Or does your SC check the title as well?

In article ,
Old Nick wrote:
On 17 Jun 2004 21:44:44 -0400, (DoN. Nichols)
vaguely proposed a theory

[ ... ]

Sometimes a bounce is a temporary one -- a "we can't deliver
your mail so far, but we'll keep trying" type of thing.

I quote from the bounce

"Sorry, I couldn't find any host by that name. (#4.1.2)
I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too
long."

Sounds pretty final to me G

Yes -- and this clears up that the problem *here* was access to
the DNS (Domain Name Server) records to look up the IP address of the
system. Apparently, the ISP isn't doing that good a job of propagating
the DNS records for that address.

[ ... ]

O.K. Are the chain pitches sometimes in metric units, and
sometimes in inches, depending on country of origin?

No. I am happy to deal in Imperial...sorry...inches. The only thing is
sometimes it's 3/8" and sometimes .375. Then there is .370...go
figure. 1/200th of an inch! Thsi guy tells me the saw only takes .325"
and .370. But everybody else says 3/8".....then there is low profile,
etc.

What I meant was not the actual units of measurement, but
whether there was an actual physical difference in the pitch of the
sprockets on the saws.

AS for the .375 vs .370 -- I think that may be a side-effect of
people accustomed to mm (where 0.01mm is already pretty small) just
rounding the decimal inches to two significant figures too -- but
continuing to display that third zero. :-)

The .325 may be a matter of just not typing in the right figure
somewhere in there, as it makes no real sense either in fractional inch
or in mm (8.25mm doesn't sound like a normal metric size to me.) .3125"
(5/8") is pretty close to 8mm, but this isn't that, either.

It sounds as though the saw chain will work with no problems
other than the human ones. :-)

Let us know what happens.

Will do.

P.S. Is it time to straighten out the spelling of "carbide" in the
"Subject: " header? My spelling checker keeps stumbling over
that one. :-)

Ok. It will lose the thread,

Depends on the newsreader. For those which honor the
"References: " header, it will continue to be part of the same thread.
For those which depend on the "Subject: " header entirely, it will break
the thread. (This is why when someone changes the subject to try to
start a new thread while replying to an existing thread, it only works
for some. To truly divorce the thread, you have to edit out the
"References: " header to no content to eliminate the connection to other
articles.

but I take your point. Do you show all
header fields? Or does your SC check the title as well?

Both -- my newsreader copies everything, including the headers,
into the editor so I can create my response. This means that the
spelling checker sees all kinds of things which it doesn't like,
including the "Message-IDs: " and "References: ", as well as all kinds
of fractions of e-mail addresses and such. It does not limit itself to
checking just my own new text -- it checks everything. I have to resist
correcting other's spelling in the quoted text. :-)

Enjoy,
DoN.
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