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From searching newsgroups I am hoping that you guys may be able to help me.
I recently bought an 11" Logan lathe in nice condition. Included with the unit was the Logan "production" collet closer setup (the lever is to the left of the headstock) but missing the business end: the spindle nose thread protector and the collet adapter. I found an NOS thread protector on eBay and the guy also sold me an NOS adapter. Both really are NOS and beautiful, but the adapter turned out to be the wrong one. So: 1) The adapter that I have is OAL 2.56" with the tapered section 2" long, tapering from approx. 1.505" to approx. 1.405 inches. This works out to about 2.8 degrees or 0.600" per foot. (Pretty close to a 4 1/2 MT which is 0.624/foot and a 1.5" big end opening.) Any idea what it fits? There is one of these that appears to be identical on eBay right now: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3813353868 2) My Logan spindle nose is approx. 1.6" ID at the end. According to the lathe info I have, the taper is 2 degrees. Scott Logan has new collet adapters but they are north of $200 and this is just an old fart's home/garage lathe that doesn't do much work and doesn't make any money. So I'm looking to get set up much cheaper. Does anyone have an adapter to sell? BTW, if anyone lusts after a Logan "production" closer I would be willing to horsetrade for a handwheel closer, complete, which would be perfectly adequate for my needs. Thanks in advance, Geo. Anderson |
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 01:10:44 GMT, "Geo. Anderson"
wrote: From searching newsgroups I am hoping that you guys may be able to help me. I recently bought an 11" Logan lathe in nice condition. Included with the unit was the Logan "production" collet closer setup (the lever is to the left of the headstock) but missing the business end: the spindle nose thread protector and the collet adapter. I found an NOS thread protector on eBay and the guy also sold me an NOS adapter. Both really are NOS and beautiful, but the adapter turned out to be the wrong one. So: 1) The adapter that I have is OAL 2.56" with the tapered section 2" long, tapering from approx. 1.505" to approx. 1.405 inches. This works out to about 2.8 degrees or 0.600" per foot. (Pretty close to a 4 1/2 MT which is 0.624/foot and a 1.5" big end opening.) Any idea what it fits? There is one of these that appears to be identical on eBay right now: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3813353868 2) My Logan spindle nose is approx. 1.6" ID at the end. According to the lathe info I have, the taper is 2 degrees. Scott Logan has new collet adapters but they are north of $200 and this is just an old fart's home/garage lathe that doesn't do much work and doesn't make any money. So I'm looking to get set up much cheaper. Does anyone have an adapter to sell? BTW, if anyone lusts after a Logan "production" closer I would be willing to horsetrade for a handwheel closer, complete, which would be perfectly adequate for my needs. Thanks in advance, Geo. Anderson You might check with Royal. They'll know the correct taper. I think the adapter for mine (Delta 11") was around $125-150 or so. Pete Keillor |
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Geo. Anderson wrote: From searching newsgroups I am hoping that you guys may be able to help me. [ ... ] 1) The adapter that I have is OAL 2.56" with the tapered section 2" long, tapering from approx. 1.505" to approx. 1.405 inches. This works out to about 2.8 degrees or 0.600" per foot. (Pretty close to a 4 1/2 MT which is 0.624/foot and a 1.5" big end opening.) Any idea what it fits? There is one of these that appears to be identical on eBay right now: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3813353868 Well ... if it is truly MT - 4-1/2, then it would fit my Clausing with a L-00 spindle. (The model number is useless here, because I swapped in the L-00 spindle for the original 2-1/4x8 spindle, which used an even smaller taper. I had to extend the drawbar when I swapped spindles, as the L-00 sticks out farther. 2) My Logan spindle nose is approx. 1.6" ID at the end. According to the lathe info I have, the taper is 2 degrees. Scott Logan has new collet adapters but they are north of $200 and this is just an old fart's home/garage lathe that doesn't do much work and doesn't make any money. So I'm looking to get set up much cheaper. Does anyone have an adapter to sell? All I have is the even smaller taper from my original 2-1/4x8 spindle -- still accepts a 5C collet, however. BTW, if anyone lusts after a Logan "production" closer I would be willing to horsetrade for a handwheel closer, complete, which would be perfectly adequate for my needs. I've got the lever-style closer for my Clausing, so I don't need it, and I certainly can't supply a handwheel one for a Logan, anyway. You could check around with the used equipment dealers (such as Dave Ficken, of Meridian, or Dave Sobel) to see whether they have something which fits. You *may* have to bite the bullet and buy the adaptor from Scott. I bought one from Royal through him when I swapped over to the L-00 spindle, since I didn't want to lose the collet capability with the swapover. If you ever get to using the lever-style closer (with long stock through the spindle, and something to control it from whipping at the outboard end, which can be *very* dangerous), you probably won't want to even consider the handwheel. Good Luck, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 01:10:44 GMT, "Geo. Anderson"
wrote: From searching newsgroups I am hoping that you guys may be able to help me. I recently bought an 11" Logan lathe in nice condition. Included with the unit was the Logan "production" collet closer setup (the lever is to the left of the headstock) but missing the business end: the spindle nose thread protector and the collet adapter. I found an NOS thread protector on eBay and the guy also sold me an NOS adapter. Both really are NOS and beautiful, but the adapter turned out to be the wrong one. So: 1) The adapter that I have is OAL 2.56" with the tapered section 2" long, tapering from approx. 1.505" to approx. 1.405 inches. This works out to about 2.8 degrees or 0.600" per foot. (Pretty close to a 4 1/2 MT which is 0.624/foot and a 1.5" big end opening.) Any idea what it fits? There is one of these that appears to be identical on eBay right now: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3813353868 2) My Logan spindle nose is approx. 1.6" ID at the end. According to the lathe info I have, the taper is 2 degrees. Scott Logan has new collet adapters but they are north of $200 and this is just an old fart's home/garage lathe that doesn't do much work and doesn't make any money. So I'm looking to get set up much cheaper. Does anyone have an adapter to sell? BTW, if anyone lusts after a Logan "production" closer I would be willing to horsetrade for a handwheel closer, complete, which would be perfectly adequate for my needs. Thanks in advance, Geo. Anderson I may..may have a couple of them. Email me a reminder and Ill look for them this weekend. Yours for the asking if I have one. Gunner That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there. - George Orwell |
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In article , DoN. Nichols says...
If you ever get to using the lever-style closer (with long stock through the spindle, and something to control it from whipping at the outboard end, which can be *very* dangerous), you probably won't want to even consider the handwheel. I'm glad somebody said that - I was going to but got distracted. My first 9" SB had a lever closer, and I went out of my way to find one for the 10 machines. They are unbelieveably handy and can be used for other stuff like swaging small tubing to size as well. Like they say, a) try Royal, and b) keep the lever closer. Jim ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at yktvmv (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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You may want to contact Scott Logan at Logan Actuator Company at (815)
943-9500. His web page is at http://www.loganact.com/ Dave Young |
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In article ,
Dave Young wrote: You may want to contact Scott Logan at Logan Actuator Company at (815) 943-9500. His web page is at http://www.loganact.com/ You apparently did not read back to the start of the thread, where the original poster said (in part): ================================================== ==================== Scott Logan has new collet adapters but they are north of $200 and this is just an old fart's home/garage lathe that doesn't do much work and doesn't make any money. So I'm looking to get set up much cheaper. ================================================== ==================== So he already *knows* about Scott Logan. Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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Thanks for the comments gents. It appears that I have a swap
opportunity that will get me the adapter that I need. I will also consider carefully the advice to keep the lever closer. Geo. Geo. Anderson wrote: From searching newsgroups I am hoping that you guys may be able to help me. I recently bought an 11" Logan lathe in nice condition. Included with the unit was the Logan "production" collet closer setup (the lever is to the left of the headstock) but missing the business end: the spindle nose thread protector and the collet adapter. I found an NOS thread protector on eBay and the guy also sold me an NOS adapter. Both really are NOS and beautiful, but the adapter turned out to be the wrong one. So: 1) The adapter that I have is OAL 2.56" with the tapered section 2" long, tapering from approx. 1.505" to approx. 1.405 inches. This works out to about 2.8 degrees or 0.600" per foot. (Pretty close to a 4 1/2 MT which is 0.624/foot and a 1.5" big end opening.) Any idea what it fits? There is one of these that appears to be identical on eBay right now: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3813353868 2) My Logan spindle nose is approx. 1.6" ID at the end. According to the lathe info I have, the taper is 2 degrees. Scott Logan has new collet adapters but they are north of $200 and this is just an old fart's home/garage lathe that doesn't do much work and doesn't make any money. So I'm looking to get set up much cheaper. Does anyone have an adapter to sell? BTW, if anyone lusts after a Logan "production" closer I would be willing to horsetrade for a handwheel closer, complete, which would be perfectly adequate for my needs. Thanks in advance, Geo. Anderson |
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Yup...you're right....my bad...
Dave DoN. Nichols wrote: In article , Dave Young wrote: You may want to contact Scott Logan at Logan Actuator Company at (815) 943-9500. His web page is at http://www.loganact.com/ You apparently did not read back to the start of the thread, where the original poster said (in part): ================================================== ==================== Scott Logan has new collet adapters but they are north of $200 and this is just an old fart's home/garage lathe that doesn't do much work and doesn't make any money. So I'm looking to get set up much cheaper. ================================================== ==================== So he already *knows* about Scott Logan. Enjoy, DoN. |
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