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Where can you get the schematic for the 7x12 lathe with the SCR
controller instead of the newer MOSFET type?This is the older model lathe and supposedly is not made by Sieg.The controller is American made and the board with the power resistors and relay is on a sub-board. |
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I don't have any information about these lathes, but I'm not sure of what
you're looking for. Do you need a wiring diagram for the electrical wiring, or are you trying to identify failed electronic components on one of the circuit boards? The wiring diagrams from other lathes of the same size would probably be similar enough to complete (or correct) the machine's electrical wiring. Identifying circuit board components is entirely different in ost cases, since most board producers will often change suppliers and components based upon whatever's on sale this week (or so it seems). There are Yahoo (and other) groups for these lathes.. you might encounter someone with the identical model that you have. If you're trying to identify failed or badly burned components, that's a more complicated process, but there are some ways to accomplish this. WB ............... "ED ROGERS" wrote in message ... Where can you get the schematic for the 7x12 lathe with the SCR controller instead of the newer MOSFET type?This is the older model lathe and supposedly is not made by Sieg.The controller is American made and the board with the power resistors and relay is on a sub-board. |
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My controller board went south but since it was American made I used
their factory authorized repair facility and turnaround was only 2 days.I want the schematic for the sub-board and switches.This lathe was not made by Sieg and the wiring is different from other lathes that seem to look like it.My board had a random component failure that took 3 other parts with it.There was no external burnt parts. |
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In article , ED ROGERS says...
My controller board went south but since it was American made I used their factory authorized repair facility and turnaround was only 2 days.I want the schematic for the sub-board and switches.This lathe was not made by Sieg and the wiring is different from other lathes that seem to look like it.My board had a random component failure that took 3 other parts with it.There was no external burnt parts. I hate to say this but a lot of times the manufacturers have no interest in providing schematics for electrics that accompany a machine like that. Especially for lower end items, they simply cannot provide any factory repair or trouble-shooting so the diagram is not useful to them, there's nobody there who can understand it. Often the electrics are done by another OEM manufacturer and even they don't share technical information with the machinery maker. Your best bet is to either a) reverse-engineer the board, or b) get in contact with somebody who has. I tried to get a schematic for Hardinge's feed module boards, and through no fault of theirs, it was simply impossible. And they're one of the better companies about support. I finally did reverse engineer it and drew a schematic. It's not that tough to do, and after a few go-arounds the topology of your print almost starts to look correct! :^) Jim ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at yktvmv (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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Thanks for your help.When I looked originally inside the control box I
thought the Chinese had come a long way with their electronic component quality.Taking it out I saw the decal saying made in USA.The switches,relay and sub-board are Chinese and look it.The US product was made by a company that seems to exclusively make motor controllers.The Chinese perhaps found it easier to use an American off the shelf product.I will build an external controller to hold in reserve if needed.I have a few books on the shelf for designing solid state circuitry.Next time I replace the drive belt will also do the reverse engineering suggestion. |
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ED ROGERS wrote:
Thanks for your help.When I looked originally inside the control box I thought the Chinese had come a long way with their electronic component quality.Taking it out I saw the decal saying made in USA.The Maybe there's an FCC identification number on it, like computer cards have? |
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 00:49:57 -0500, ED ROGERS wrote:
Where can you get the schematic for the 7x12 lathe with the SCR controller instead of the newer MOSFET type?This is the older model lathe and supposedly is not made by Sieg.The controller is American made and the board with the power resistors and relay is on a sub-board. I have the older model Homier mini-lathe and had my controller got fried. I got another one from Homier as warranty replacement. I did some research on the controller and found a site that will repair them for a fee, I also found some info on the boards them selfs. Although not a schematic it does have some info that you might not have. The board is manufactured, I don't know if all of them are the same manufacturer, but mine is this one, by : "Penta KB power" KBIC controller. I have a couple pdf files on this board, no schematics as said before. It has the pots that con be adjusted and some info on them, etc... email if you want them. zbadone At earthlink dot net A7N8X-Deluxe, AMD XP2500+ (Un-locked) 2x256mb Crucial PC3200 DDR ram Palit-Daytona Ti4200/64M AGP |
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Check with the folks at http://www.littlemachineshop.com they sell
replacement parts and accessaries for the mini lathes. I remember seeing replacement SCRs on the web site a while back. Also check the links on http://www.mini-lathe.com/Links.htm and the yahoo 7x10 mini lathe group. Ed (ED ROGERS) wrote: Where can you get the schematic for the 7x12 lathe with the SCR controller instead of the newer MOSFET type?This is the older model lathe and supposedly is not made by Sieg.The controller is American made and the board with the power resistors and relay is on a sub-board. |
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I have used Little Machine shop for different items and advice.They have
replacement Mosfets but not Scrs. |
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