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Wanting a Dialarc or Lincoln equivalent machine in Texas. Must be h.f.
capable for welding aluminum.

This machine can be working or not.

Thank you.


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knowone wrote:

Wanting a Dialarc or Lincoln equivalent machine in Texas. Must be h.f.
capable for welding aluminum.

This machine can be working or not.

Thank you.


Gave up on the Syncrowaves that everyone is hoarding?

Pete C.
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Nope.


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knowone wrote:

Wanting a Dialarc or Lincoln equivalent machine in Texas. Must be h.f.
capable for welding aluminum.

This machine can be working or not.

Thank you.


Gave up on the Syncrowaves that everyone is hoarding?

Pete C.



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On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:35:30 GMT, "knowone"
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Wanting a Dialarc or Lincoln equivalent machine in Texas. Must be h.f.
capable for welding aluminum.

This machine can be working or not.

Thank you.

Curious why you specify a Dialarc HF rather than, say, a Synchrowave.
I had one guy tell me he'd once worked in a welding shop where the
boss replaced the Dialarcs with Synchrowaves, and the welders didn't
like the new welders. Said one of the welders could routinly make
leak-free aluminum tanks with the Dialarc HF but not with the
Synchrowave. I figured maybe they just didn't know how to use the
Synchrowave, but I've never used one myself so that's just a guess.
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Actually Don, I am looking for either.

I don't have any experience with either, either.

I have heard good things about both but you know how that is.

k



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On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:35:30 GMT, "knowone"
wrote:

Wanting a Dialarc or Lincoln equivalent machine in Texas. Must be h.f.
capable for welding aluminum.

This machine can be working or not.

Thank you.

Curious why you specify a Dialarc HF rather than, say, a Synchrowave.
I had one guy tell me he'd once worked in a welding shop where the
boss replaced the Dialarcs with Synchrowaves, and the welders didn't
like the new welders. Said one of the welders could routinly make
leak-free aluminum tanks with the Dialarc HF but not with the
Synchrowave. I figured maybe they just didn't know how to use the
Synchrowave, but I've never used one myself so that's just a guess.





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On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:33:22 GMT, "knowone"
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Actually Don, I am looking for either.

I don't have any experience with either, either.

I have heard good things about both but you know how that is.

k


I have a Dialarc HF and am happy with it. The Synchrowave and some
others may retain a stable arc at lower currents than the Dialarc
does, but I don't have any trouble at all welding 1/16" aluminum
with the Dialarc.
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knowone wrote:
Actually Don, I am looking for either.

I don't have any experience with either, either.

I have heard good things about both but you know how that is.

k


I have had one of each. Both are good machines.

The Dialarc is a good DC machine, for steel and stainless they are fine.
AC is OK.

The Syncrowave does a better job at low currents and the square wave AC
is much better for aluminum work.

One of the things I really like about the Syncrowave is the
thermostatically controlled fan, the Dialarc fan was on all the time and
was pretty loud. With the Syncrowave, the fan only comes on after some
fairly heavy work and it's a lot quieter. It's a funny thing to comment
about something that trivial, but after spending a full day welding it
makes a difference.

Good Luck,
Bob
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Appreciate your comments Bob.

As you probably know, the fan would be extremely easy to control by just
setting a bi-metallic thermostat on top of the transformer with some thermal
grease and one wire of the fan connected in series with the thermostat.
Normally, open, of course.

Can one not weld aluminum easily with the Dialarc h.f.?

k


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knowone wrote:
Actually Don, I am looking for either.

I don't have any experience with either, either.

I have heard good things about both but you know how that is.

k


I have had one of each. Both are good machines.

The Dialarc is a good DC machine, for steel and stainless they are fine.
AC is OK.

The Syncrowave does a better job at low currents and the square wave AC is
much better for aluminum work.

One of the things I really like about the Syncrowave is the
thermostatically controlled fan, the Dialarc fan was on all the time and
was pretty loud. With the Syncrowave, the fan only comes on after some
fairly heavy work and it's a lot quieter. It's a funny thing to comment
about something that trivial, but after spending a full day welding it
makes a difference.

Good Luck,
Bob




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On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 03:37:41 GMT, "knowone"
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Appreciate your comments Bob.

As you probably know, the fan would be extremely easy to control by just
setting a bi-metallic thermostat on top of the transformer with some thermal
grease and one wire of the fan connected in series with the thermostat.
Normally, open, of course.

Can one not weld aluminum easily with the Dialarc h.f.?

k


I routinely weld aluminum down to .050" with my Dialarc HF, have
done .030 aluminum with it. Other machines would probably be better
if you plan to do very thin aluminum, but .050 and above are easy
with the Dialarc. I've also repaired broken aluminum castings,
like a pressure washer manifold and a trolling motor mounting clamp.
I'm just an amateur, but my welds look OK and they seem to hold up in
service.
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I will second what Don has said about the Dialarc, you absolutely can
weld aluminum with it. It's what I learned to weld aluminum with.

Still, the square wave provided by the Syncrowave does a better job
cleaning the weld area and I get better tungsten life with it.

As for adding a thermostat, it never occurred to me until after I got
the Syncrowave how nice it was.

Good Luck,
Bob


knowone wrote:
Appreciate your comments Bob.

As you probably know, the fan would be extremely easy to control by just
setting a bi-metallic thermostat on top of the transformer with some thermal
grease and one wire of the fan connected in series with the thermostat.
Normally, open, of course.

Can one not weld aluminum easily with the Dialarc h.f.?

k


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knowone wrote:

Actually Don, I am looking for either.

I don't have any experience with either, either.

I have heard good things about both but you know how that is.

k


I have had one of each. Both are good machines.

The Dialarc is a good DC machine, for steel and stainless they are fine.
AC is OK.

The Syncrowave does a better job at low currents and the square wave AC is
much better for aluminum work.

One of the things I really like about the Syncrowave is the
thermostatically controlled fan, the Dialarc fan was on all the time and
was pretty loud. With the Syncrowave, the fan only comes on after some
fairly heavy work and it's a lot quieter. It's a funny thing to comment
about something that trivial, but after spending a full day welding it
makes a difference.

Good Luck,
Bob







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