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Sheet Metal project price question.
If there is anybody here that has experience pricing a sheet metal project I
would appreciate some ideas of what a commercial shop would charge for this. I will be making a drip shield surrounding an 18"x30"x1" fixture plate using 304 SS in 20 gage. The shield will be at a 45 degrees angle all the way around the plate up and away from the periphery. This shield will be about 7 inches tall and hence will add 14 inches to the overall width and length of the plate. The attachment point will be a 1" horizontal flange with 1/4" holes every 6 inches or so to screw it down to the plate surface. The corners will have to be connected with screws and slots so that attachment to a non perfect plate can still be accomplished. Hopefully I've described it well enough that you can get a mental picture. I have no experience in this at all and have no idea what to expect. I've pretty much got the job unless I'm way out of line in the price department, hence I need some ideas, don't have to be exact. I'm thinking in the $100 dollar range for labor plus material. BTW I appreciate all the knowledge and help that this forum provides apart from the political rhetoric. Lane |
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Sheet Metal project price question.
lane wrote:
If there is anybody here that has experience pricing a sheet metal project I would appreciate some ideas of what a commercial shop would charge for this. I will be making a drip shield surrounding an 18"x30"x1" fixture plate using 304 SS in 20 gage. The shield will be at a 45 degrees angle all the way around the plate up and away from the periphery. This shield will be about 7 inches tall and hence will add 14 inches to the overall width and length of the plate. The attachment point will be a 1" horizontal flange with 1/4" holes every 6 inches or so to screw it down to the plate surface. The corners will have to be connected with screws and slots so that attachment to a non perfect plate can still be accomplished. Hopefully I've described it well enough that you can get a mental picture. I have no experience in this at all and have no idea what to expect. I've pretty much got the job unless I'm way out of line in the price department, hence I need some ideas, don't have to be exact. I'm thinking in the $100 dollar range for labor plus material. BTW I appreciate all the knowledge and help that this forum provides apart from the political rhetoric. You didn't say anything about the quantity you need. If it is a one-off, you should probably budget $100-$200. If you're going to get more than 5-10 made, a shop can set up their cad machines to hammer it out for a lot less, probably in the $20-$30 range. |
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Sheet Metal project price question.
You didn't say anything about the quantity you need.
If it is a one-off, you should probably budget $100-$200. If you're going to get more than 5-10 made, a shop can set up their cad machines to hammer it out for a lot less, probably in the $20-$30 range. Jim Sorry, yes, this is a one-off. So, my $100 plus materials sounds about right. Thanks |
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So, my $100 plus materials sounds about right. Well... maybe. I'd suggest you avoid large state of the art CNC sheetmetal shops. Setups are very expensive, and in general they don't like to do a setup for one part that has no chance of going into production. One shop I do some machining for now and then, has a $75 minimum to burn anything on the laser. Want a 3/4" square burned out of 1/8 SS, $75. If you get quotes you find way out of line, ask if they know any smaller shops that like to deal with little one-off jobs. Many big shops are only too happy to send one-offs somewhere else. Jon |
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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:53:12 -0800, "lane" lane_nospam@copperaccents_dot_com wrote:
I will be making a drip shield surrounding an 18"x30"x1" fixture plate using 304 SS in 20 gage. The shield will be at a 45 degrees angle all the way around the plate up and away from the periphery. This shield will be about 7 inches tall and hence will add 14 inches to the overall width and length of the plate. No it won't. The length needed to rise 7 inches at a 45 degree angle is 9.898 inches (hypotenuse of a 45 degree triangle is sqrt(2) times the rise). So the total amount added to the length and width of the sheet will be twice that, or 19.796 inches. This is important to know if you're supplying the material. Also, if you want a rolled lip on the edge (good idea if you don't want people to be cut on the sharp edge), you have to allow enough material for that too. By eyeball, I'd say about half an inch for the rolled edge, so add another inch to the overall length and width dimensions of the sheet. Gary |
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"Gary Coffman" wrote in message ... On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:53:12 -0800, "lane" lane_nospam@copperaccents_dot_com wrote: I will be making a drip shield surrounding an 18"x30"x1" fixture plate using 304 SS in 20 gage. The shield will be at a 45 degrees angle all the way around the plate up and away from the periphery. This shield will be about 7 inches tall and hence will add 14 inches to the overall width and length of the plate. No it won't. The length needed to rise 7 inches at a 45 degree angle is 9.898 inches (hypotenuse of a 45 degree triangle is sqrt(2) times the rise). So the total amount added to the length and width of the sheet will be twice that, or 19.796 inches. This is important to know if you're supplying the material. Also, if you want a rolled lip on the edge (good idea if you don't want people to be cut on the sharp edge), you have to allow enough material for that too. By eyeball, I'd say about half an inch for the rolled edge, so add another inch to the overall length and width dimensions of the sheet. Gary You are not understanding how I'm arriving at my figures. You are correct that the hypotenuse means I would need more than 7 inches of material to actually make it. But when looking at it the completed unit, since it rises at a 45 degree angle, the over all length of the whole plate with applied splash shield is 18" plus 7" plus 7" equals 22". Since it rises 7" that means that it is going to overhang by 7 inches as well. Lane |
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 17:40:55 -0800, "lane" lane_nospam@copperaccents_dot_com wrote:
"Gary Coffman" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:53:12 -0800, "lane" lane_nospam@copperaccents_dot_com wrote: I will be making a drip shield surrounding an 18"x30"x1" fixture plate using 304 SS in 20 gage. The shield will be at a 45 degrees angle all the way around the plate up and away from the periphery. This shield will be about 7 inches tall and hence will add 14 inches to the overall width and length of the plate. No it won't. The length needed to rise 7 inches at a 45 degree angle is 9.898 inches (hypotenuse of a 45 degree triangle is sqrt(2) times the rise). So the total amount added to the length and width of the sheet will be twice that, or 19.796 inches. This is important to know if you're supplying the material. Also, if you want a rolled lip on the edge (good idea if you don't want people to be cut on the sharp edge), you have to allow enough material for that too. By eyeball, I'd say about half an inch for the rolled edge, so add another inch to the overall length and width dimensions of the sheet. Gary You are not understanding how I'm arriving at my figures. You are correct that the hypotenuse means I would need more than 7 inches of material to actually make it. But when looking at it the completed unit, since it rises at a 45 degree angle, the over all length of the whole plate with applied splash shield is 18" plus 7" plus 7" equals 22". Since it rises 7" that means that it is going to overhang by 7 inches as well. I understand that. What I was telling you is that the sheet you cut to form the shield is going to have to be about 6 inches longer and wider than that because of the geometry, and because you'll probably want to roll a finished edge on the shield. Gary |
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"Gary Coffman" wrote in message I understand that. What I was telling you is that the sheet you cut to form the shield is going to have to be about 6 inches longer and wider than that because of the geometry, and because you'll probably want to roll a finished edge on the shield. Gary Sorry for the confusion. |
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