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Dremel & Dust?
I got a Dremel for Christmas, never did any project work before. Please
tell me: when I'm cutting metal (such as a threaded rod or a computer case), besides wearing a dust mask, what else should I worry about? Metal threads landing on skin, clothing or furniture? How about vacuuming the workspace afterwards: necessary? Thanks. |
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I got a Dremel for Christmas, never did any project work before. Please tell me: when I'm cutting metal (such as a threaded rod or a computer case), besides wearing a dust mask, what else should I worry about? Metal threads landing on skin, clothing or furniture? How about vacuuming the workspace afterwards: necessary? Eye protection. Everything else is just a matter of how much you care to clean up. Oh, and take the overpriced Dremel toy back and get one of these: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=40432 Much heavier, versatile, easier to use, and effective. Often on sale for $50. |
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"Richard J Kinch" wrote Oh, and take the overpriced Dremel toy back and get one of these: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=40432 Much heavier, versatile, easier to use, and effective. Often on sale for $50. You get what you pay for. I think one of these would last longer than ten Dremels and HF POSs: http://www.brandsonsale.com/foredomtool.html Available on ebay for about $160. I think it depends on what you are going to use it for. If you are going to use it 20 hours a year, the Cheapos are fine. If you are serious, you will burn them up quickly. What say ye, other owners? Steve |
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:42:29 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote: "Richard J Kinch" wrote Oh, and take the overpriced Dremel toy back and get one of these: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=40432 Much heavier, versatile, easier to use, and effective. Often on sale for $50. You get what you pay for. I think one of these would last longer than ten Dremels and HF POSs: http://www.brandsonsale.com/foredomtool.html Available on ebay for about $160. I think it depends on what you are going to use it for. If you are going to use it 20 hours a year, the Cheapos are fine. If you are serious, you will burn them up quickly. What say ye, other owners? Steve Actually Steve..Ive got both an original Foredom and the HF copy shown above..and they both have a **** load of hours on them, both still run fine with no play in the hand piece. Some of the HF stuff aint bad, aint bad atall. Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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news:Pe6sf.8858$_L5.3769@fed1read06... "Richard J Kinch" wrote Oh, and take the overpriced Dremel toy back and get one of these: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=40432 Much heavier, versatile, easier to use, and effective. Often on sale for $50. You get what you pay for. I think one of these would last longer than ten Dremels and HF POSs: http://www.brandsonsale.com/foredomtool.html Available on ebay for about $160. I think it depends on what you are going to use it for. If you are going to use it 20 hours a year, the Cheapos are fine. If you are serious, you will burn them up quickly. My first Dremel was purchased in the early 1970's and replaced around 1990. Second one is still going strong. I got a used Foredom on eBay about 5 years ago and I've built up quire a system around it but for portability the Dremel (even the corded ones) have got the Foredom beat everywhichway! I personally wouldn't be without either. My own feeling about HF stuff is that I'll buy it if it's either for a one-time project or will be lightly used. For heavy duty use, I much prefer professional grade tools. But I'd estimate that about a 25-35% of my 40+ year old tool collection is HF-quality stuff and it's about the only way that I've been able to afford to justify purchasing tools to do some things that I do infrequently. Norm |
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"Norm Dresner" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote in message news:Pe6sf.8858$_L5.3769@fed1read06... "Richard J Kinch" wrote Oh, and take the overpriced Dremel toy back and get one of these: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=40432 Much heavier, versatile, easier to use, and effective. Often on sale for $50. You get what you pay for. I think one of these would last longer than ten Dremels and HF POSs: http://www.brandsonsale.com/foredomtool.html Available on ebay for about $160. I think it depends on what you are going to use it for. If you are going to use it 20 hours a year, the Cheapos are fine. If you are serious, you will burn them up quickly. My first Dremel was purchased in the early 1970's and replaced around 1990. Second one is still going strong. I got a used Foredom on eBay about 5 years ago and I've built up quire a system around it but for portability the Dremel (even the corded ones) have got the Foredom beat everywhichway! I personally wouldn't be without either. My own feeling about HF stuff is that I'll buy it if it's either for a one-time project or will be lightly used. For heavy duty use, I much prefer professional grade tools. But I'd estimate that about a 25-35% of my 40+ year old tool collection is HF-quality stuff and it's about the only way that I've been able to afford to justify purchasing tools to do some things that I do infrequently. Norm Ditto. I bought an air chisel to remove a tile floor. I think it was $25. If I had given it away after that job, it would have been WELL worth the $25. I hand chiseled for about an hour, then tried a scraper. Went and got the air chisel, and BUUUUURRRPPPPPPP! It still took a good while, as we had about 800sf. But it would have taken two forevers with hand tools. Then, I bought a Pit Bull mini air grinder. Used it a few times so far, and really like it. Paid ten bucks. Then the impact sockets. And so on. If I was doing this stuff every day, the income would justify buying the best, and I like to do that on stuff I know I am going to ride hard. But, like you, I can't see spending big bucks on an impact set (or any tool) that I'm going to use very infrequently. |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:01:39 -0600, Richard J Kinch
wrote: writes: I got a Dremel for Christmas, never did any project work before. Please tell me: when I'm cutting metal (such as a threaded rod or a computer case), besides wearing a dust mask, what else should I worry about? Metal threads landing on skin, clothing or furniture? How about vacuuming the workspace afterwards: necessary? Eye protection. Everything else is just a matter of how much you care to clean up. Oh, and take the overpriced Dremel toy back and get one of these: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=40432 Much heavier, versatile, easier to use, and effective. Often on sale for $50. Second the eye protection. If you already wear eyeglasses, still use safety goggles over them because those little bits will pit the hell out of your Rx polycarbonate lenses. I like my Dremel just fine. Finally wore one out after 20 years, bought another one. My primary use is similar to yours: cutting small rod stock and screws to length. I'd use other tools for cutting up computer cases. |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:16:07 GMT, "Norm Dresner"
wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message news:Pe6sf.8858$_L5.3769@fed1read06... "Richard J Kinch" wrote Oh, and take the overpriced Dremel toy back and get one of these: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=40432 Much heavier, versatile, easier to use, and effective. Often on sale for $50. You get what you pay for. I think one of these would last longer than ten Dremels and HF POSs: http://www.brandsonsale.com/foredomtool.html Available on ebay for about $160. I think it depends on what you are going to use it for. If you are going to use it 20 hours a year, the Cheapos are fine. If you are serious, you will burn them up quickly. My first Dremel was purchased in the early 1970's and replaced around 1990. Second one is still going strong. I got a used Foredom on eBay about 5 years ago and I've built up quire a system around it but for portability the Dremel (even the corded ones) have got the Foredom beat everywhichway! I personally wouldn't be without either. My own feeling about HF stuff is that I'll buy it if it's either for a one-time project or will be lightly used. For heavy duty use, I much prefer professional grade tools. But I'd estimate that about a 25-35% of my 40+ year old tool collection is HF-quality stuff and it's about the only way that I've been able to afford to justify purchasing tools to do some things that I do infrequently. Norm Ditto. I have a bunch of import air tools. Most work well, a few haven't worked out. If an import doesn't hack it, I then replace it with a better one -- e.g., 3/8" air ratchet/impact. The imports are crap, went to Ingersoll Professional on that one. Ditto the butterfly. The orange HF angle grinder sounds like it's about to explode, but it has since day 1 and it just keeps on working. It screams holy hell about having to work, but it keeps on doin' it! Geez, I'm not an import....??? |
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In article , Don Foreman wrote: On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:01:39 -0600, Richard J Kinch wrote: writes: I got a Dremel for Christmas, never did any project work before. Please tell me: when I'm cutting metal (such as a threaded rod or a computer case), besides wearing a dust mask, what else should I worry about? Metal threads landing on skin, clothing or furniture? How about vacuuming the workspace afterwards: necessary? Eye protection. Everything else is just a matter of how much you care to clean up. Oh, and take the overpriced Dremel toy back and get one of these: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=40432 Much heavier, versatile, easier to use, and effective. Often on sale for $50. Second the eye protection. If you already wear eyeglasses, still use safety goggles over them because those little bits will pit the hell out of your Rx polycarbonate lenses. I like my Dremel just fine. Finally wore one out after 20 years, bought another one. My primary use is similar to yours: cutting small rod stock and screws to length. I'd use other tools for cutting up computer cases. The eye protection is a must, and a full face shield is good if you use the abrasive cutoff disks with no fiber reinforcing. Ear protection is also good because it lets you concentrate on what you are doing. Vacuuming up afterward is a good idea, especially if you are grinding steel. Between the steel dust & the grinding wheel dust, it makes a very abrasive mess. Ignore the folks who put down Dremels. Yes, they have limits, but I've had one for 30 years and it still works fine. I've used it for all sorts of stuff. If you have a fixed speed model, get the foot pedal speed control. It gives you a lot more flexibility and control without having to fiddle with the on-board speed control. Unfortunately, most units come with the built in controller, and it will argue with the foot pedal. I think the electrical noise from one confuses the other. Doug White |
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Norm Dresner wrote:
My first Dremel was purchased in the early 1970's and replaced around 1990. Second one is still going strong. I got a used Foredom on eBay about 5 years ago and I've built up quire a system around it but for portability the Dremel (even the corded ones) have got the Foredom beat everywhichway! I personally wouldn't be without either. Mine is from the late fifties. I replaced it recently with a variable speed unit, gave the single speed to a friend, and it was still in good working condition. I also have one of the smaller rechargable units. |
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"Richard J Kinch" wrote Oh, and take the overpriced Dremel toy back and get one of these: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=40432 Much heavier, versatile, easier to use, and effective. Often on sale for $50. You get what you pay for. I think one of these would last longer than ten Dremels and HF POSs: http://www.brandsonsale.com/foredomtool.html Available on ebay for about $160. I think it depends on what you are going to use it for. If you are going to use it 20 hours a year, the Cheapos are fine. If you are serious, you will burn them up quickly. What say ye, other owners? Steve Hindsight says i should have gotten a foredom i'm killing my craftsman dremel cleaning up the small welded stuff i do as art |
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Brent Philion wrote: Hindsight says i should have gotten a foredom i'm killing my craftsman dremel cleaning up the small welded stuff i do as art Well, a Craftsman ISN'T a Dremel, at least the current crop isn't. Don't know who makes them for Sears, but it's not Dremel. The b-in-l has one, not very well made and uses different collets. Foredoms have their limitations, too, you've got to watch that cable sheath and make sure it doesn't get kinked, plus regular lubrication of the cable. Best thing for small work I've gotten so far has been those pneumatic micro-die grinders. Foredom also sells one of those that uses their regular collets, it's a cut above the regular Chinese imports in workmanship, not sure that it does 10x a better job for the price. For $15-20, you could try out an HF unit and get a better one if it works for you. At one time, HF had one that used Foredom-type collets, I've got one of those for use with oddball shank sizes. They're cheap enough, I've got several, leave them tooled up and connected to a manifold, then just pick up the one with the point I need at the time. Saves a lot of tool changing. Stan |
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