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OT - Democracy cometh
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http://www.bushflash.com/jpg/svu_2.jpg The True Story of How Liberals & Conservatives Were Created Here's a little world history lesson on how liberals and Conservatives were created.... Humans existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunter/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer & would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in winter. The 2 most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into 2 distinct subgroups: Liberals and Conservatives. Once beer was discovered it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early human ancestors were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed. Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as "the Conservative movement." Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement. Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as 'girliemen.' Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy and group hug's and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided. Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the majestic elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the ugly jackass. Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting revolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't "fair" to make the pitcher also bat. Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officer's, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living. Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to "govern" the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tame and created a business of trying to get MORE for nothing. Here ends today's lesson in world history: It should be noted that a Liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it. A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other "true believers." |
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wrote in message ups.com... Cliff wrote: http://www.bushflash.com/jpg/svu_2.jpg The True Story of How Liberals & Conservatives Were Created Here's a little world history lesson on how liberals and Conservatives were created.... Humans existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunter/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer & would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in winter. The 2 most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into 2 distinct subgroups: Liberals and Conservatives. Once beer was discovered it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early human ancestors were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed. Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as "the Conservative movement." Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement. Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as 'girliemen.' Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy and group hug's and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided. Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the majestic elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the ugly jackass. Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting revolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't "fair" to make the pitcher also bat. Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officer's, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living. Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to "govern" the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tame and created a business of trying to get MORE for nothing. Here ends today's lesson in world history: It should be noted that a Liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it. A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other "true believers." You forgot about the large group of people in the middle who might subscribe to parts of either philosophy (Gunner included) but should be insulted to be branded by your handles. Steve |
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While everyone knows that very bad things happen in war, I have to
wonder why the majority of our military men and women warmly regard President Bush. Could it be that the bushflash website is a bunch of crapola? |
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wrote in message ups.com... Cliff wrote: http://www.bushflash.com/jpg/svu_2.jpg The True Story of How Liberals & Conservatives Were Created Here's a little world history lesson on how liberals and Conservatives were created.... Humans existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunter/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer & would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in winter. The 2 most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into 2 distinct subgroups: Liberals and Conservatives. Once beer was discovered it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early human ancestors were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed. Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as "the Conservative movement." Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement. Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as 'girliemen.' Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy and group hug's and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided. Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the majestic elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the ugly jackass. Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting revolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't "fair" to make the pitcher also bat. Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officer's, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living. Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to "govern" the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tame and created a business of trying to get MORE for nothing. Here ends today's lesson in world history: It should be noted that a Liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it. A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other "true believers." You omitted one important fact about conservatives though. Due to the excessive consumption of beer by the conservatives their women produced offspring impaired by fetal alcohol syndrome. The result being that the brains of conservatives failed to develop normally and remain unusually small in comparison to the brain of a liberal, which explains why, to this day, they are still regarded as knuckle dragging imbeciles. Hawke |
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On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:18:30 -0600, "its me" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... Cliff wrote: http://www.bushflash.com/jpg/svu_2.jpg The True Story of How Liberals & Conservatives Were Created Here's a little world history lesson on how liberals and Conservatives were created.... Humans existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunter/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer & would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in winter. The 2 most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into 2 distinct subgroups: Liberals and Conservatives. Once beer was discovered it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early human ancestors were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed. Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as "the Conservative movement." Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement. Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as 'girliemen.' Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy and group hug's and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided. Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the majestic elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the ugly jackass. Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting revolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't "fair" to make the pitcher also bat. Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officer's, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living. Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to "govern" the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tame and created a business of trying to get MORE for nothing. Here ends today's lesson in world history: It should be noted that a Liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it. A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other "true believers." You forgot about the large group of people in the middle who might subscribe to parts of either philosophy (Gunner included) but should be insulted to be branded by your handles. Steve Actually..I forwarded it to about 40 other Conservatives after laughing at its straightforward obvious truth. G Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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You forgot about the large group of people in the middle who might subscribe to parts of either philosophy (Gunner included) but should be insulted to be branded by your handles. Steve Actually..I forwarded it to about 40 other Conservatives after laughing at its straightforward obvious truth. G Gunner I myself am a hardworking, taxpaying, gun owning, patriotic, gas burning American that believes in helping people less fortunate than me but I damn sure ain't gonna be grouped with a bunch of so called conservatives. BTW just what have you conserved today? Steve |
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:12:19 -0600, "its me" wrote:
You forgot about the large group of people in the middle who might subscribe to parts of either philosophy (Gunner included) but should be insulted to be branded by your handles. Steve Actually..I forwarded it to about 40 other Conservatives after laughing at its straightforward obvious truth. G Gunner I myself am a hardworking, taxpaying, gun owning, patriotic, gas burning American that believes in helping people less fortunate than me but I damn sure ain't gonna be grouped with a bunch of so called conservatives. BTW just what have you conserved today? Steve What did I conserve today...hummmm... My strength (recovering from pneomnia), I didnt kill several trees by not buying the Sunday paper, I didnt drive to the store, and I posted some 2nd Amendment stuff to some emailed enquiries, so have done my part to conserve the Constitution. And frankly..I dont care where you group yourself. You are not my problem. Nor my concern. Nor are you r opinions. Shrug. Feel free to group yourself with the Neo Zorostrian Clam Loverers, or the Quasi Free Melon Marxists, or the Felladilast Club. March to your own drummer damnit! Be strong, stand tall! Be YOU!!! "We are afraid to put men to live and trade each on his own private stock of reason, because we suspect that this stock in each man is small, and that the individuals would do better to avail themselves of the general bank and capital of nations and ages. Many of our men of speculation, instead of exploding general prejudices, employ their sagacity to discover the latent wisdom which prevails in them. If they find what they seek, and they seldom fail, they think it more wise to continue the prejudice, with the reason involved, than to cast away the coat of prejudice, and to leave nothing but naked reason; because prejudice, with its reason, has a motive to give action to that reason, and an affection which will give it permanence." Edmond Burke Btw..you are aware that todays Conservative are Classical Liberals, are you not? Or Neo Liberals? Feel free to increase your knowlege base by googling the two terms. Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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its me wrote:
You forgot about the large group of people in the middle who might subscribe to parts of either philosophy (Gunner included) but should be insulted to be branded by your handles. Steve Actually..I forwarded it to about 40 other Conservatives after laughing at its straightforward obvious truth. G Gunner I myself am a hardworking, taxpaying, gun owning, patriotic, gas burning American that believes in helping people less fortunate than me but I damn sure ain't gonna be grouped with a bunch of so called conservatives. BTW just what have you conserved today? Steve Hmmm, Gunner doesn't know the difference between conservative and conservationist. Not that I am surprised about that. Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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Abrasha wrote:
its me wrote: You forgot about the large group of people in the middle who might subscribe to parts of either philosophy (Gunner included) but should be insulted to be branded by your handles. Steve Actually..I forwarded it to about 40 other Conservatives after laughing at its straightforward obvious truth. G Gunner I myself am a hardworking, taxpaying, gun owning, patriotic, gas burning American that believes in helping people less fortunate than me but I damn sure ain't gonna be grouped with a bunch of so called conservatives. BTW just what have you conserved today? Steve Hmmm, Gunner doesn't know the difference between conservative and conservationist. Not that I am surprised about that. Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com I meant to say, Steve doesn't know the difference between conservative and conservationist. And I'm not surprised about that either. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On 9 Dec 2005 12:52:27 -0800, wrote: While everyone knows that very bad things happen in war, I have to wonder why the majority of our military men and women warmly regard President Bush. Could it be that the bushflash website is a bunch of crapola? Because we who have been to war, or are at war, recognize that war is often required, and having a leader with the balls and brains to recognize this fact is refreshing. As is having one who will let those whose profession is war, run the thing, rather than secondguessing, and micromanaging it. Any further questions? Gunner Yeah, why is it that throughout history it has always been the nations that have the greatest military might that start wars so often? You don't think it's because the preeminent military nations really fear their weak neighbors, do you? Aside from that, I'm sure that none of us that your ilk consider anti war are really that. Unlike you, we see war as something that has to be done only when there is no alternative. But we are not against war in all cases. The argument all along isn't that we are against all wars, what we are against is this particular war, because if one looks at the facts objectively, it's crystal clear that this was not a war that we had no choice but to fight. We all know it was an optional war. It also takes no brains or courage to commit the world's largest and most modern military against a country that spends less than 4 billion a year on it's military. Going to war against Iraq was shooting fish in a barrel. Make this war into some grand endeavor if you like but the truth is it was totally unnecessary, took no brains to set in motion, and it put this country at odds with most of the rest of the world. It also turned into a royal fiasco the "brilliant" George Bush never saw coming. You can accuse those of us who said not to start this war as chicken or unpatriotic all you want but those kinds of labels are completely off base. We saw starting a war in Iraq as stupid and unnecessary and would lead to nothing but trouble. We were right, as usual. Hawke |
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As demonstrated, the following quote is accurate:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) |
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