I am thinking of purchasing a National 5216 hydraulic shear. Can anyone give
me any pros or cons on this shear? Concerns are line of sight to cutting
edge and standard backgauge.....are the rules engraved in bars like a
Tennsmith?

Both are lower end American shears. If it is not used and you are
buying new, set your sights a little higher and buy a PEXTO, Wysong or
Cincinnati used. You will be happier in the long run.

well actually I am looking into a brand new Pexto PH-452.....I just want
something better than my current Tennsmith 52" air shear. Am I right to
assume hydraulic will be better? Also I see you are familiar with the
Pexto.....do you have to start the machine every time you cut stock? Wasn't
sure if the motor just runs when pedal is depressed or etc. Thanks for your
input.
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oups.com...
Both are lower end American shears. If it is not used and you are
buying new, set your sights a little higher and buy a PEXTO, Wysong or
Cincinnati used. You will be happier in the long run.

On 18 Nov 2005 17:48:10 -0800, wrote:

Both are lower end American shears. If it is not used and you are
buying new, set your sights a little higher and buy a PEXTO, Wysong or
Cincinnati used. You will be happier in the long run.

I have a 52", 16 ga. Pexto for sale. An older stomp shear converted to
hydraulic. Needs some cleanup..shrug..but the price is right.

So. California

Gunner

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Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
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Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:43:08 GMT, "Stickman" wrote:

well actually I am looking into a brand new Pexto PH-452.....I just want
something better than my current Tennsmith 52" air shear. Am I right to
assume hydraulic will be better? Also I see you are familiar with the
Pexto.....do you have to start the machine every time you cut stock? Wasn't
sure if the motor just runs when pedal is depressed or etc. Thanks for your
input.
wrote in message
roups.com...
Both are lower end American shears. If it is not used and you are
buying new, set your sights a little higher and buy a PEXTO, Wysong or
Cincinnati used. You will be happier in the long run.


To the best of my knowledge..all hydraulic shears need to be turned on
before operation..so the pump runs when its turned on.

Which can be noisy..

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

In article ,
Gunner Asch wrote:

On 18 Nov 2005 17:48:10 -0800, wrote:

Both are lower end American shears. If it is not used and you are
buying new, set your sights a little higher and buy a PEXTO, Wysong or
Cincinnati used. You will be happier in the long run.

I have a 52", 16 ga. Pexto for sale. An older stomp shear converted to
hydraulic. Needs some cleanup..shrug..but the price is right.

So. California

Gunner


How much?

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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:24:29 GMT, Ernie Leimkuhler
wrote:

In article ,
Gunner Asch wrote:

On 18 Nov 2005 17:48:10 -0800, wrote:

Both are lower end American shears. If it is not used and you are
buying new, set your sights a little higher and buy a PEXTO, Wysong or
Cincinnati used. You will be happier in the long run.

I have a 52", 16 ga. Pexto for sale. An older stomp shear converted to
hydraulic. Needs some cleanup..shrug..but the price is right.

So. California

Gunner


How much?

about $1000. If I clean it up , I can get about $1800 for it here in
So. Cal.

Im negotiable however..and am open to some trading....

It does have a back gauge of course

Frankly..Id simply like to not have to worry about it any longer..and
its not easy to store and move without a forklift.

I also have a powered Diacro 6" notcher also for sale $1400.

Interested?

Gunner


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