He replaced the motor in our 4-month old dishwasher because
it became noisy at a young age. Anybody want to guess where
the motor was made?
Brian, in Cedar

In article ZtRsb.384922$9l5.225372@pd7tw2no, Brian Barnson wrote:
He replaced the motor in our 4-month old dishwasher because
it became noisy at a young age. Anybody want to guess where
the motor was made? Brian, in Cedar

not Mexico? China? Italy? --Loren

Brian Barnson wrote:
He replaced the motor in our 4-month old dishwasher because
it became noisy at a young age. Anybody want to guess where
the motor was made?
Brian, in Cedar

Ah Maytag. With the best reputation money can buy.

--Winston

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:10:47 -0800, Winston
brought forth from the murky depths:

Brian Barnson wrote:
He replaced the motor in our 4-month old dishwasher because
it became noisy at a young age. Anybody want to guess where
the motor was made?
Brian, in Cedar

Ah Maytag. With the best reputation money can buy.

Yeah. Tell me about it. The appliance dealer said "These Magic
Chef washers and dryers are Maytags but they don't have the
stainless tubs." I paid my $800 and had them delivered. The
first time I used the dryer, the tub went "boom, boom, boom"
as if it had a flat tire. It turns out it did. That's "normal"
says the repairman. 3 weeks later the motor in the washer
smoked. 3 weeks later he had all 3 parts and climbed on top
of the washer to unplug it, leaving dents in the super thin
sheetmetal top. He denied it but warrantied the top anyway.

I called the dealer and asked to upgrade to the REAL Maytags.
Nogo. I pleaded that I'd pay the upgrade fees, no problem.
Nogo. I called Maytag and they said No, they couldn't make
the dealer take them back and they wouldn't do it themselves.

All I can say about Maytag is NEVER AGAIN for me!

My 2-year old Frigidaire fridge is noisy as hell, too. Maybe
I should have bought a SubZero unit. Or are they the Searz /
Minwhacked / Thompson's / Maytag bunch, too?


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Brian Barnson wrote:
He replaced the motor in our 4-month old dishwasher because
it became noisy at a young age. Anybody want to guess where
the motor was made?
Brian, in Cedar

The Maytag man is dead. He must have been an impostor.

Your Maytag dishwasher lasted 4 months? Lucky, lucky guy! The first
version of my Maytag died in 3 days, the second in 2 weeks and the third
seems OK after 2 years.

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He replaced the motor in our 4-month old dishwasher because
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the motor was made?
Brian, in Cedar

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:39:07 -0500, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:

Your Maytag dishwasher lasted 4 months? Lucky, lucky guy! The first
version of my Maytag died in 3 days, the second in 2 weeks and the third
seems OK after 2 years.

"Brian Barnson" wrote in message
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He replaced the motor in our 4-month old dishwasher because
it became noisy at a young age. Anybody want to guess where
the motor was made?
Brian, in Cedar



Ours has been on the go since 1978. I have, however replaced
everything but the outer case and door latch. I now have spares for
everything, and in most cases duplicates, since I bought one complete
machine for $10 and another, mostly complete for a buck; both about
ten years newer than the one we use.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

In article , Tom Gardner wrote:
Your Maytag dishwasher lasted 4 months? Lucky, lucky guy! The first
version of my Maytag died in 3 days, the second in 2 weeks and the third
seems OK after 2 years.

yes, but does it get the dishes & flatware _clean_. my 7-8 yr old
Maytag does a lousy job, most because the temp boost is either not
working or cuts out at too low of a temp.

i have to override the temp thermostat on the HW heater for it to
work even poorly. --Loren


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He replaced the motor in our 4-month old dishwasher because
it became noisy at a young age. Anybody want to guess where
the motor was made?
Brian, in Cedar

I also had prblems early on with a MAytag, and reverted back to the
old 25+ year old Kitchenaid I removed when I bought the new Maytag.
Finally got my money back and refused another Maytag. Took a bit of
hassleing etc, but I eventually did it. I then bought the wife a new
Kitchen Aide abaout 4 years ago and have yet to have a problem.
Kitchen Aides used to be top notch units, but IIRC they are part of
Whirlpool or maybe even Maytag now, and its still not like the old
machines were made in my opinion. It took two of us to carry out the
old Kitchen Aide, but I carried in the new one by myself without any
problems.

My guess is China or Taiwan for where the motor was made. It could not
have bneen made in the USA as everyone knows the USA does not make
anything anymore. ;-) If it was made in Europe it would be cost
prohibitive to buy..........has to be china or somewhere in the
orient, with Mexico, or some other south american country as a second
guess.

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===He replaced the motor in our 4-month old dishwasher because
===it became noisy at a young age. Anybody want to guess where
===the motor was made?
=== Brian, in Cedar
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I also had prblems early on with a MAytag, and reverted back to the
old 25+ year old Kitchenaid I removed when I bought the new Maytag.
Finally got my money back and refused another Maytag. Took a bit of
hassleing etc, but I eventually did it. I then bought the wife a new
Kitchen Aide abaout 4 years ago and have yet to have a problem.
Kitchen Aides used to be top notch units, but IIRC they are part of
Whirlpool or maybe even Maytag now, and its still not like the old
machines were made in my opinion. It took two of us to carry out the
old Kitchen Aide, but I carried in the new one by myself without any
problems.

My guess is China or Taiwan for where the motor was made. It could not
have bneen made in the USA as everyone knows the USA does not make
anything anymore. ;-) If it was made in Europe it would be cost
prohibitive to buy..........has to be china or somewhere in the
orient, with Mexico, or some other south american country as a second
guess.

China it is. So is the replacement. The guy said that Maytag has
picked
up Amana as a budget line and that nowadays most stuff lasts 5 years.
Planned obsolesence they call, I call it planned insolence. Global trade
and having to compete with stuff from Korea and god knows where else is
part of it.
Brian, in Cedar

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:47:09 GMT, "Brian Barnson"
brought forth from the murky depths:

China it is. So is the replacement. The guy said that Maytag has
picked
up Amana as a budget line and that nowadays most stuff lasts 5 years.
Planned obsolesence they call, I call it planned insolence. Global trade
and having to compete with stuff from Korea and god knows where else is
part of it.

My 2-year new stove, an Amana, is now exhibiting arcing sounds
from the most-used switch. I bought all new equipment when I
moved up to Oregon and am now wishing I had that old, rusty
stuff I left. DAMN!


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I replaced my 30 year old coppertone Kenmore DW (with
reservations) with a top-end Whirlpool unit 5 years ago. It
has worked flawlessly. Kenmore quality seems to be the best,
though. My mom's upright freezer lasted 34 years. My
frig/freezer and washer-dryer set are all going on 14 years,
with no problems. My '82 Kenmore microwave is still going,
although I had to replace the magnetron last year.
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Dweller in the cellar

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it became noisy at a young age. Anybody want to guess where
the motor was made?
Brian, in Cedar

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JR North wrote:

I replaced my 30 year old coppertone Kenmore DW (with
reservations) with a top-end Whirlpool unit 5 years ago. It
has worked flawlessly. Kenmore quality seems to be the best,
though. My mom's upright freezer lasted 34 years. My
frig/freezer and washer-dryer set are all going on 14 years,
with no problems. My '82 Kenmore microwave is still going,
although I had to replace the magnetron last year.
JR
Dweller in the cellar


And the reason all those things still work is because they were made by,
and when, someone gave a ****. Got ya beat on the microwave, I use my
Litton daily that I bought in 1978, or 77 maybe.

michael

A couple years ago I saw an ancient Amana Radarage at a yard sale. Probably
late '50s. Almost bought it, but didn't feel like glowing in the dark.

GTO(John)

And the reason all those things still work is because they were made by,
and when, someone gave a ****. Got ya beat on the microwave, I use my
Litton daily that I bought in 1978, or 77 maybe.

michael

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:46:39 -0800, JR North
wrote:

I replaced my 30 year old coppertone Kenmore DW (with
reservations) with a top-end Whirlpool unit 5 years ago. It
has worked flawlessly. Kenmore quality seems to be the best,
though. My mom's upright freezer lasted 34 years. My
frig/freezer and washer-dryer set are all going on 14 years,
with no problems. My '82 Kenmore microwave is still going,
although I had to replace the magnetron last year.
JR
Dweller in the cellar

Interesting... Kenmore is a 'house brand label' so the appliance could
have been made by any number of manufacturers, including Whirlpool,
Hotpoint (GE), Gibson...

-Carl

It's probable that Sears holds the manufacturer dujur to a
higher level of quality for they're Kenmore label.
JR
Dweller in the cellar

Carl Byrns wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:46:39 -0800, JR North
wrote:

I replaced my 30 year old coppertone Kenmore DW (with
reservations) with a top-end Whirlpool unit 5 years ago. It
has worked flawlessly. Kenmore quality seems to be the best,
though. My mom's upright freezer lasted 34 years. My
frig/freezer and washer-dryer set are all going on 14 years,
with no problems. My '82 Kenmore microwave is still going,
although I had to replace the magnetron last year.
JR
Dweller in the cellar

Interesting... Kenmore is a 'house brand label' so the appliance could
have been made by any number of manufacturers, including Whirlpool,
Hotpoint (GE), Gibson...

-Carl

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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:07:49 -0800, JR North
wrote:

Carl Byrns wrote:

Interesting... Kenmore is a 'house brand label' so the appliance could
have been made by any number of manufacturers, including Whirlpool,
Hotpoint (GE), Gibson...

-Carl

It's probable that Sears holds the manufacturer dujur to a
higher level of quality for they're Kenmore label.
JR
Dweller in the cellar


Could be. MTD's house label power equipment is usually better than
their own stuff.

-Carl

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:05:13 GMT, "Brian Barnson"
wrote:

He replaced the motor in our 4-month old dishwasher because
it became noisy at a young age. Anybody want to guess where
the motor was made?
Brian, in Cedar


I bought my house pre-furnished with all Maytag appliances, 1 year old
when I bought it.

Over a 3 year period:

Built-in range-hood microwave oven - plastic handle broke - I made a
wooden replacement rather than pay the $27 + shipping for this 1.5" x
8" piece of plastic.

Range - microprocessor control module failed - twice.
- 4 elements replaced
- oven element replaced

Dishwasher - replaced pump
- replaced heater element

Clothes washer - pump replaced
- replaced water-level switch

Clothes dryer - control timer never worked on one of it's
modes, still doesn't because I don't use
that mode anyway
- intermittently the dryer motor will run for
hours with the heat off after drying

Side by side refrigerator/freezer

- Icemaker failed
- Water cooling tank failed at a seam
- Cannot get refrigerator compartment below
freezing at the top -and- bottom no matter
the settings

Toaster oven - Just plain stopped working - something in the
temperature/timing mechanism I think

Every single Maytag appliance I own has failed at least once in 3
years.


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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:05:13 GMT, "Brian Barnson"
wrote:

He replaced the motor in our 4-month old dishwasher because
it became noisy at a young age. Anybody want to guess where
the motor was made?
Brian, in Cedar


I bought my house pre-furnished with all Maytag appliances, 1 year old
when I bought it.

Over a 3 year period:

Built-in range-hood microwave oven - plastic handle broke - I made a
wooden replacement rather than pay the $27 + shipping for this 1.5" x
8" piece of plastic.

Range - microprocessor control module failed - twice.
- 4 elements replaced
- oven element replaced

Dishwasher - replaced pump
- replaced heater element

Clothes washer - pump replaced
- replaced water-level switch

Clothes dryer - control timer never worked on one of it's
modes, still doesn't because I don't use
that mode anyway
- intermittently the dryer motor will run for
hours with the heat off after drying

Side by side refrigerator/freezer

- Icemaker failed
- Water cooling tank failed at a seam
- Cannot get refrigerator compartment below
freezing at the top -and- bottom no matter
the settings

Toaster oven - Just plain stopped working - something in the
temperature/timing mechanism I think

Every single Maytag appliance I own has failed at least once in 3
years.


Mike Patterson


What a sad statement about the US, a country that used to lead the world in
technology and high quality products. How far must we fall before the
light comes back on that we really shouldn't be shipping everything that
made us what we used to be to foreign countries? Imagine us relying on
other countries to fight a war. A war with the countries we so rely upon
today. Who the hell is steering this ship?

Harold

What a sad statement about the US, a country that used to lead the world in
technology and high quality products. How far must we fall before the
light comes back on that we really shouldn't be shipping everything that
made us what we used to be to foreign countries? Imagine us relying on
other countries to fight a war. A war with the countries we so rely upon
today. Who the hell is steering this ship?

Harold

Cheap *******s who won't pay the higher cost of skilled American labor are the
ones steering this particular ship; you can see them every day at Walmart,
loading up on cheap imported crap that adds nothing to their lives. Also blame
the free traders in power (Bush I & II, and Clinton). We're "saving" ourselves
right into a second class country. People ought to know that "made in China"
generally means two things:
1. The item is a cheap, piece of **** knock-off.
2. Profits (which are huge) go right to the People's "Liberation" Army.

Incidentally, #2 is why China will soon be the only world superpower; we may
spend more in absolute dollars, but they get 10 times the value for every
dollar they spend. With our purchasing habits, their absolute spending will
probably overtake us eventually--and then we will all be living in a *VERY*
different world. done ranting

MKloepster wrote:
snip

Cheap *******s who won't pay the higher cost of skilled American labor are the
ones steering this particular ship;
snip

Those cheap *******s are US!!!
How many times have you gone down to the full service store to look at
stuff then called around the discount places to save a penny? WE won't
pay a nickel more than we have to. DEMAND drives the ship. WE won't
buy good stuff, so THEY don't supply good stuff.

It's sad, but there's nothing much we can do about it.
Gotta go. Found some "free after rebate" stuff I just gotta have...
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mike wrote:
MKloepster wrote:
snip


Cheap *******s who won't pay the higher cost of skilled American labor
are the
ones steering this particular ship;

snip

Those cheap *******s are US!!!
How many times have you gone down to the full service store to look at
stuff then called around the discount places to save a penny? WE won't
pay a nickel more than we have to. DEMAND drives the ship. WE won't
buy good stuff, so THEY don't supply good stuff.

There's cheap, there's fair and there's gouge.

I just posted this on alt.autos.subaru a
little while ago...

I was looking at the maintance
records for my daughter's Civic last night.
The previous owner paid $1700 for major tuneup,
timing belt, and brake job. I did all and more
on the Outback for $400 in parts. Now I can't
believe that a) the Civic is easier to work
on than the Outback, b) the Civic's parts are
more expensive than the Outback, and c) the
mechanic/shop deserved to make $1300 in labor
on a job that couldn't take more than 8 hours.

That's over $160/hr. My company only charges
$100/hr for custom electonics designs. At
some point the car repair trade decided they
should be compensated like doctors and lawyers.

Sometimes people choose cheap because they
are tired of being screwed.

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wrote:


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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:05:13 GMT, "Brian Barnson"
wrote:

He replaced the motor in our 4-month old dishwasher because
it became noisy at a young age. Anybody want to guess where
the motor was made?
Brian, in Cedar


I bought my house pre-furnished with all Maytag appliances, 1 year old
when I bought it.

Over a 3 year period:

Built-in range-hood microwave oven - plastic handle broke - I made a
wooden replacement rather than pay the $27 + shipping for this 1.5" x
8" piece of plastic.

Range - microprocessor control module failed - twice.
- 4 elements replaced
- oven element replaced

Dishwasher - replaced pump
- replaced heater element

Clothes washer - pump replaced
- replaced water-level switch

Clothes dryer - control timer never worked on one of it's
modes, still doesn't because I don't use
that mode anyway
- intermittently the dryer motor will run for
hours with the heat off after drying

Side by side refrigerator/freezer

- Icemaker failed
- Water cooling tank failed at a seam
- Cannot get refrigerator compartment below
freezing at the top -and- bottom no matter
the settings

Toaster oven - Just plain stopped working - something in the
temperature/timing mechanism I think

Every single Maytag appliance I own has failed at least once in 3
years.


Mike Patterson


What a sad statement about the US, a country that used to lead the world in
technology and high quality products. How far must we fall before the
light comes back on that we really shouldn't be shipping everything that
made us what we used to be to foreign countries? Imagine us relying on
other countries to fight a war. A war with the countries we so rely upon
today. Who the hell is steering this ship?

Harold

Nobody's steering the ship because they split up the rudder for
firewood a LONG time ago.
If we (the US and allies) went to war against the Chinese tomorrow, it
would all be over before Christmas - and even your president would be
under no delusions that we had won.
Their crap usually only works once - but in the kind of war they would
wage, that's all it would take. Make the Japanese Kamikaze look like
boyscouts.

Every single Maytag appliance I own has failed at least once in 3
years.

I have a 15 year old maytag washer. Has worked perfect for all those
years. maybe they don't make em like they use to!

chuck

On 14 Nov 2003 19:07:00 GMT, (Charles A.
Sherwood) wrote:

Every single Maytag appliance I own has failed at least once in 3
years.

I have a 15 year old maytag washer. Has worked perfect for all those
years. maybe they don't make em like they use to!

chuck

Bingo! Give that man a Yogi button.
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On 14 Nov 2003 19:07:00 GMT, (Charles A.
Sherwood) wrote:

Every single Maytag appliance I own has failed at least once in 3
years.

I have a 15 year old maytag washer. Has worked perfect for all those
years. maybe they don't make em like they use to!

chuck

I have a 30+ year old Kenmore (inglis) drier that has had the drum
rollers replaced twice, and the belt once.
Untill 3 years ago we had the matching washer. Motor was replaced
once, and control head 3 times in 30 years.
The replacement (same brand) had the motor, transmission, and control
replaced within the first 3 months, then I found the REAL problem - a
bad switch.
We recently replaced the 40+ year old Frigidaire range. Until the oven
element burned out and arc-welded itself to the oven liner, all that
had been replaced was a couple wirers and one element control. The
matching refrigerator was retired 5 years ago when it started freezing
up (auto defrost went on the blink)
The 20 year old Quazar microwave had the "antenna" replaced uder
warranty at about 6 months when it started arcing - and has been
troublefree ever since.
The 30 year old gas furnace got replaced with a new medium efficiency
unit this fall. The blower motor had been replaced about 10 years ago
- and I replaced the furnace because with the cost of energy going up
it made sense to do so - and to do it on MY timetable, rather than
Murphy's. When they took it out they said there was nothing wrong with
it - it was just old. The central air is still there - never had a
moments trouble other than the thermostat.
The Beam central vac (15 years old) got a new set of brushes in the
Lamb motor last spring. A lot of the new ones do not have replaceable
brushes.

Only GOOD thing I can say for some of the new stuff is it is more
power efficient - but often that is because it is underpowered - and
therefore thrashes itself to death just "doing its job".