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R.H. wrote:
http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 496: For a shaft coupler, it is too short. So it is some kind of stop on a shaft. 497: Blow torch. A "bernzmatic"? 498: A mass product. Wood related. 499: Very first prototype of a Russian back scratcher. 500: Flintstone, Outdoor usage. 501: Old tool. :-) Nick -- Motor Modelle // Engine Models http://www.motor-manufaktur.de |
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R.H. wrote:
A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob From Rec.woodworking, #496: keyed collar for a drive shaft, maybe holds a fan? #497: blow torch or an old paint gun #498: These hold in glass before you glaze them #499: Back scratcher? Rug stretcher? #500: Good for making sparks?? #501: Crevice tool? For cutting a potato in half? |
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Nick Müller wrote:
500: Flintstone, Outdoor usage. Have to correct myself: IIRC, there is a stick (can't be seen on the photo) with some kind of fabric beeing penetrated with gas. You whipe the stick over the flintstone (round on top of photo) and ... fire! Nick -- Motor Modelle // Engine Models http://www.motor-manufaktur.de |
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"Mark and Kim Smith" wrote in message ... R.H. wrote: A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob From Rec.woodworking, #496: keyed collar for a drive shaft, maybe holds a fan? Or a stop collar for a 1/4" drill bit, or any other 1/4" shaft requiring a stop or lock. #497: blow torch or an old paint gun Definitely an old blowtorch. #498: These hold in glass before you glaze them They're called "glaziers points", these are a newer version of the old flat triangle ones. #499: Back scratcher? Rug stretcher? #500: Good for making sparks?? #501: Crevice tool? For cutting a potato in half? -- Nahmie Stupidity is not considered a handicap, park elsewhere. |
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:47:21 GMT, "R.H." wrote:
,;A new set has just been posted: ,; ,;http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 497 is a part of a blow torch. The "hook" and the channel are there so one can hold the soldering iron in the flame. |
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496. Don't know, but fastens to a rotating shaft.
497. Gasoline blow torch. Still have one. 498. Window glass glazier's points. The rest are unknown to me Gripper, puller sample block sure looks familiar, but just won't come (top posted for your convenience) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Keep the whole world singing . . . . DanG (remove the sevens) "R.H." wrote in message .. . A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob |
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R.H. wrote:
A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob From RCM 496. A slotted, keyed collar 497. Blowtorch head 498. Glazier's points 499. ??? 500. Pocket guage 501. Shingle spud -- Gary Brady Austin, TX www.powdercoatoven.4t.com |
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R.H. wrote: A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Surprisingly easy, for me, this time: 496. Drill depth stop 497. blowtorch 498. glaziers tacks, for holding window glass in. 499. I'm guessing it's another form of carpet puller? 500. magnesium fire starter 501. tanner's flensing tool of some sort? -- Sandy |
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496. chisel bade holder for a small planer
497. gasoline blow torch 498. window glazing points 499. horse hoof scraping tool to clean out muck from shoe on horse 500. flint and steel for lighting fires 501. handle to lift an old dutch oven "R.H." wrote in message .. . A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob |
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:47:21 GMT, "R.H." wrote:
A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob Wow, Rob, tricky this week. The only one I know is that #500 is a firestarter (magnesium block and sparker rod.) shave off a bit of the block into your tinder,then use the back edge of your knife on the rod to strike sparks onto the shavings. Some guesses: #501 could be the tool used to lift the burner lids on an old wood stove. #497 --an old blowtorch head? Barb |
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Norman D. Crow wrote:
snip Or a stop collar for a 1/4" drill bit, or any other 1/4" shaft requiring a stop or lock. snip What's the key slot for? |
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Mark and Kim Smith wrote:
What's the key slot for? A keyed drill. For drilling key-holes. Never heard of? :-) Nick -- Motor Modelle // Engine Models http://www.motor-manufaktur.de DIY-DRO - YADRO - Eigenbau-Digitalanzeige |
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"R.H." writes:
A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob #496 Depth stop collar for 1/4" drill bit. #497 Blow Torch (Antique) #498 Glazing points #499 For lifting something? |
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Mark and Kim Smith wrote: Norman D. Crow wrote: snip Or a stop collar for a 1/4" drill bit, or any other 1/4" shaft requiring a stop or lock. snip What's the key slot for? Not a key slot, but to allow the collar to collapse easier. John Martin |
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In article , R.H.
wrote: A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 496: Drill depth stop 497: Blow torch 498: Glazier points 501: Chisel of some kind -- "I don't like dealing with people. I'd rather be back working in Human Resources." My wife, Oct 27 2005 after having to fill in at another department. |
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Looks like allthe ones I know are already answered. I thought the metal in the "fire starter" was called "Mischmetal". I don't think it is plain magnesium. Other comments: The blowtoarch is just like one I have. Just last week I ran into the "new" glazier points while looking for the old (triangle) style. The clamp ring, I've seen many used in lots of places. ...lew... |
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 00:23:32 GMT, Lew Hartswick
wrote: Looks like allthe ones I know are already answered. I thought the metal in the "fire starter" was called "Mischmetal". I don't think it is plain magnesium. I don't know about that. When my husband gave me one, he said it was magnesium, but neither he nor I are metallurgists. All I know is how to use it.g |
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"John Martin" wrote in message oups.com... Mark and Kim Smith wrote: Norman D. Crow wrote: snip Or a stop collar for a 1/4" drill bit, or any other 1/4" shaft requiring a stop or lock. snip What's the key slot for? Not a key slot, but to allow the collar to collapse easier. John Martin Thank you John. -- Nahmie Stupidity is not considered a handicap, park elsewhere. |
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According to R.H. :
A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Again -- posting in rec.crafts.metalworking. 496) A collar which slides onto a shaft, and then clamps there by tightening the Allen head cap screw visible in the notch on the top left. It closes the slot somewhat, tightening the collar onto the shaft. The function is to keep the shaft from sliding relative to the bearings in which it is mounted. There will likely be one of these on either side of the bearing assembly -- or a shoulder on the shaft on the other side of the bearing assembly. Is that a groove turned in the face, or is this a two-part one, with a collar to adapt it to a smaller shaft than it was originally designed for? 497) An old blowtorch -- of the style designed to heat a soldering copper (which rests with its shank in the notch just above the flame output end, and the shank near the handle goes in the 'C'-shaped rest. It is either kerosene or gasoline fueled, and the tank has to be hand-pumped to higher pressure before it is started. Once it is going, the heat vaporizes fuel in the tank and maintains the pressure. 498) These look sort of like the clips used to support shelves, but I don't think that this is right. Perhaps they are designed to serve a function similar to glazier's points, except that they will survive more side pressure, thanks to the bent "legs"? 499) Nasty looking device. Obviously for pulling something tight, but I'm not sure what. If there were only two rows of spikes, I might think a leather drive belt for a machine tool, to be laced to the other end through the same holes. 500) You've made it half-way to 1000 now! I think that this is a fire starter. You scrape a knife blade along the black rod, and it shoots out sparks to light tender. I think that it is flint, but I'm not sure. The metal frame may also be an alloy which is easy to light in thin shavings, so you shave it first to make the shavings, and then turn it around to generate the sparks to light it off. Perhaps magnesium? 501) With a longer wood handle and a sharper edge, I might consider it to be a "flensing" knife used in stripping the blubber off of a whale carcass back in the old days of whaling. As it is, I have no idea on this one. Now to see what others have guessed, Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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"R.H." wrote: A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob 496. Gear needing dentures. Badly. 497. Yeah, my dentist has a couple. 498. The things that fall out of picture frames when you move. 499. Hard core paddle for unruly children of sadists. 500. Five hundred. You have a lot of stuff. Complex match. 501. Lever to scrape really old socks out of work boots. -- B.B. --I am not a goat! thegoat4 at airmail dot net |
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,; ,;497) An old blowtorch -- of the style designed to heat a soldering ,; copper (which rests with its shank in the notch just above the ,; flame output end, and the shank near the handle goes in the ,; 'C'-shaped rest. ,; ,; It is either kerosene or gasoline fueled, and the tank has to be ,; hand-pumped to higher pressure before it is started. Once it is ,; going, the heat vaporizes fuel in the tank and maintains the ,; pressure. No. You had to man the air pump occasionally to maintain air pressure to force the fuel through the nozzle AND supply oxygen to the fuel. Actually the fuel entered the manifold as a liquid not vapor (see starting procedure below). The fuel tank remains cool during operation. I agree to what it is but the ones I saw and used had a built-in "basin" under the cast piece shown. When you started a cold torch you bled gasoline (white gas not kerosene) into that basin and lit it in order to heat up the manifold hot enough to vaporize the fuel. Once heated the valve was opened and the flame kept the manifold hot enough to vaporize the entering liquid fuel. These critters weren't quite loud enough to require ear protection. |
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R.H. wrote: A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob 499. A bag hook John Martin |
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John Martin wrote:
R.H. wrote: A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob 499. A bag hook OUCH!!! -- Fred R ________________ Drop TROU to email. |
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Four of the six have been answered correctly:
496. Stop collar for a drill bit 497. Blowtorch 498. Glazing points 499. Not sure about this one, my guess is that it was probably used to pull or stretch some type of textile, but I haven't been able to confirm it. 500. Magnesium fire starter 501. No correct answers yet. A few more photos and links have been posted on the answer page: http://pzphotosan89vn.blogspot.com/ Rob |
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501. Shingle spud The name of this tool contains two words, you've got the second word correct. Rob |
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R.H. wrote:
501. Shingle spud The name of this tool contains two words, you've got the second word correct. Barking spud. Kevin Gallimore ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"axolotl" wrote in message ... R.H. wrote: 501. Shingle spud The name of this tool contains two words, you've got the second word correct. Barking spud. Correct! Here a the link for this one from the answer page: http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/...ols01.htm#bark Rob |
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501. Slater's tool? (top posted for your convenience) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Keep the whole world singing . . . . DanG (remove the sevens) "R.H." wrote in message .. . A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob |
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 12:30:02 +0100, Nick Müller wrote:
Nick Müller wrote: 500: Flintstone, Outdoor usage. Have to correct myself: IIRC, there is a stick (can't be seen on the photo) with some kind of fabric beeing penetrated with gas. You whipe the stick over the flintstone (round on top of photo) and ... fire! No, you scratch off shreds with your knife, then spark it with your knife to spark the shreds and the tider. Saw it on TeeVee once. :-) Cheers! Rich |
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:47:21 GMT, "R.H." wrote:
A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob 496: Split shaft coupler. woodruff key goes into square portion of shaft and coupler, bolt tightens coupler onto shaft. 497: Top of an old blowtorch 498: Window glazing points. 499: Looks like half of a pair of handles with which to pick something up. 500: Round bar on rectangular block with keychain chain attached. :-) 501: No clue +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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R.H. wrote: Four of the six have been answered correctly: 501. No correct answers yet. Same as 499, for operating a recessed switch. -- There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. |
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Half right. The flame did tend to taper off as the pressure in the tank
decreased. The decrease was most rapid when starting from a full tank as the space above the gasoline for air was minimal. Second pump up took longer and lasted longer. The air pumped in by hand had little or nothing to do with combustion. The stuff coming past the needle valve was just gasoline until the tank was nearly empty. Combustion air was drawn in through the vent holes beside the jet. The heat vaporized the fuel but not in the tank. The passage below the main barrel was known as the generator. Nomenclature and principal of operation identical with the Coleman stove or lantern. Bob Galloway Unknown wrote: ,; ,;497) An old blowtorch -- of the style designed to heat a soldering ,; copper (which rests with its shank in the notch just above the ,; flame output end, and the shank near the handle goes in the ,; 'C'-shaped rest. ,; ,; It is either kerosene or gasoline fueled, and the tank has to be ,; hand-pumped to higher pressure before it is started. Once it is ,; going, the heat vaporizes fuel in the tank and maintains the ,; pressure. No. You had to man the air pump occasionally to maintain air pressure to force the fuel through the nozzle AND supply oxygen to the fuel. Actually the fuel entered the manifold as a liquid not vapor (see starting procedure below). The fuel tank remains cool during operation. I agree to what it is but the ones I saw and used had a built-in "basin" under the cast piece shown. When you started a cold torch you bled gasoline (white gas not kerosene) into that basin and lit it in order to heat up the manifold hot enough to vaporize the fuel. Once heated the valve was opened and the flame kept the manifold hot enough to vaporize the entering liquid fuel. These critters weren't quite loud enough to require ear protection. |
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Mark & Juanita wrote: 496: Split shaft coupler. woodruff key goes into square portion of shaft and coupler, bolt tightens coupler onto shaft. Sorry, but it's not a coupler. Couplers are longer, and have setscrews for each shaft. This is a shaft collar. The slot has nothing to do with a Woodruff key, but is there to allow the collar to collapse easier. John Martin |
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John Martin wrote:
The slot has nothing to do with a Woodruff key, but is there to allow the collar to collapse easier. But why is the slit so broad. A simple cut with the slitting saw would have been enough. Nick -- Motor Modelle // Engine Models http://www.motor-manufaktur.de DIY-DRO - YADRO - Eigenbau-Digitalanzeige |
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Mark and Kim Smith wrote:
R.H. wrote: A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob From Rec.woodworking, #496: keyed collar for a drive shaft, maybe holds a fan? #497: blow torch or an old paint gun #498: These hold in glass before you glaze them #499: Back scratcher? Rug stretcher? #500: Good for making sparks?? The rod is what you strike the back of your knife against to create the spark, the block is of magnesium: shave it with your knife into your tinder to get something that'll stay lit. #501: Crevice tool? For cutting a potato in half? |
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Nick Müller wrote: John Martin wrote: The slot has nothing to do with a Woodruff key, but is there to allow the collar to collapse easier. But why is the slit so broad. A simple cut with the slitting saw would have been enough. Nick -- Motor Modelle // Engine Models http://www.motor-manufaktur.de DIY-DRO - YADRO - Eigenbau-Digitalanzeige The wider the slit, the greater the collapse. So it will lock on a shaft that is considerably undersize. Not every use of these collars involves shafts ground to bearing fits. John Martin |
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John Martin wrote:
The wider the slit, the greater the collapse. So it will lock on a shaft that is considerably undersize. Not every use of these collars involves shafts ground to bearing fits. But if you collapse it to far, it will be permanently bent. Also, you can't collapse it more than the gap on the side with the screw is. :-) I really don't think that the key slot was made with much thinking. Just think about the manufacturing-process: You have a thick-walled tube, cut to length, drill and tap for locking screw, then slit the open end _and_ cut the groove in one pass. As that thing looks, they had to broach the groove as a further step. Or are such tubes (drawn, with key slot) readily available? Nick -- Motor Modelle // Engine Models http://www.motor-manufaktur.de DIY-DRO - YADRO - Eigenbau-Digitalanzeige |
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Nick Müller wrote: John Martin wrote: The wider the slit, the greater the collapse. So it will lock on a shaft that is considerably undersize. Not every use of these collars involves shafts ground to bearing fits. But if you collapse it to far, it will be permanently bent. Also, you can't collapse it more than the gap on the side with the screw is. :-) I really don't think that the key slot was made with much thinking. Just think about the manufacturing-process: You have a thick-walled tube, cut to length, drill and tap for locking screw, then slit the open end _and_ cut the groove in one pass. As that thing looks, they had to broach the groove as a further step. Or are such tubes (drawn, with key slot) readily available? Nick You're right, Nick - it's a key slot and has nothing to do with expansion or contraction. I tried to fool you, but couldn't. You're probably also right about broaching the slot. If I had to make them, though, I think I'd just run the slitting cutter a little deeper to cut the through slot and the shallow slot on the far side in one pass. But there is undoubtedly a good reason for a separate broaching operation. I don't know what is readily available. I have seen long bushings for holding boring bars that are similar but without any setscrews. Why should it be available, though? The companies that make these make them by the thousands, if not the millions. I'd guess they start with solid bar stock. Maybe they slit it before they bore it and cut to length. John Martin -- Motor Modelle // Engine Models http://www.motor-manufaktur.de DIY-DRO - YADRO - Eigenbau-Digitalanzeige |
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John Martin wrote:
You're right, Nick - it's a key slot and has nothing to do with expansion or contraction. It's not that I want to be right, I want to understand why it is the way it is. For that application, the key slot is quite odd, so I think the usage is something different. I tried to fool you, but couldn't. Or maybe I'm still fooling you? :-))) You're probably also right about broaching the slot. If I had to make them, though, I think I'd just run the slitting cutter a little deeper to cut the through slot and the shallow slot on the far side in one pass. ACK, that's what I meant. But there is undoubtedly a good reason for a separate broaching operation. That's what I would like to know. Maybe they slit it before they bore it and cut to length. Slitting before boring would not be very clever. Enjoy, Nick -- Motor Modelle // Engine Models http://www.motor-manufaktur.de DIY-DRO - YADRO - Eigenbau-Digitalanzeige |