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# 438 is a froe. It is used to make shingles. You lay the metal part on a
block of straight grained wood. Then you whack it with a big mallet. It
splits the wood.

When I was a kid, I knew several people who used to do this as a side
business. And the shingles had character. Because they were split, not
sawed. So they had a "wavy" profile.




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439. Some kind of sensor (perhaps for burglar allarms?)
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#438: this is for making shingles 100%
#439: PIR-sensor?
#441: dinosaurus back scraper


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438 is a Froe for cutting wood shingles.

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#437: the head of a galvanized roofing nail
#438: a froe
#439: one of the early iPod prototypes
#441: I recall a mower that was advertized in the back
of Popular Science years ago that I think was
called the Manta (or something close). This may
be an early incarnation of that device.

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No. 437 looks like a golf tee

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#436 A representation of the scales of 'in-justice'. The large ball
represents the 'establishment' while the small ball represents the poor
'man in the street'.

#437 A golf tee viewed end on.

#438 An adze?

#439 It's either a night light or a photographer's light meter.

#440 Hmmmm..........part of a spray gun of some sort?

#441 Either a device for making 'furrows' for seed planting or an early
'lawn edger'.

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Could 436 be some purpose-built, go/no-go hardness tester?

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The "Mutilator", of "Do not fold, spindle or mutilate".

"Really Mean" brand toilet paper.

Froe.

Nightlight.

Russian rectal thermometer.

Wheel dresser for a belt sander.


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437, fag (english slang) filter

439, PIR detector, celling centre mount type with 360 coverage.
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436. A punch-like device for making indentations in metal. The big weight
is used for harder metals, the small weight for softer metals.
437. Golf tee.
438. Wood splitter.
439. Motion detector
440. Device for spraying water on plants.
441. Weeding/mowing device.
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437. golf tee

438. froe

440. pump for old gas lamps

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438. A froe
439. Photocell

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#438 Froe for shingles
#439 PIR detector. Usually they have a fresnel lense. Is this one 360
degrees?
#440 Piston from hand pump of some kind. The grooves are for o-rings?



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O.K. Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking again. My news feed
is down, so I'm posting via a different path, and we'll see whether it
makes it through.

436) Hmm ... the spheres appear to be set up to spin on the sharp
lower point, with the upper shank held between the palms to spin
it. I keep thinking of something to do with static electricity
experiments -- but that is purely a guess.

437) It looks like the end of a golf tee which should contact the
ball.

438) I think that is called a Mattock.

439) A doorbell button --- probably illuminated for ease of use in
the dark.

440) At a guess, I would say the plunger out of an air rifle, either
BB or pellet. That part to the left looks like a trigger.

441) An interesting form of pull-behind weed or grass cutter. It
probably takes two or three passes to get most of the grass. It
would do an interesting job of cutting off the weed or grass
when the two interlocked rollers overlap.

Now to try to post it, and then to see what others have posted.

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436 are precision standards. Standard Lighting rod balls and needles.

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436 - Faraday charge instruction devices used to demonstrate the
electrical charge from static charges.
437 - Golf Tee
438 - Froe (used to split wood with the grain as in making shingles.
439 - IR motion detector for an alarm/fire system
440 - Spray nozzle
441 - pull type grass trimmer.





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Four of them have been answered correctly:



436. I haven't been able to confirm what this is.

437. Golf tee

438. Froe

439. Motion detector

440. No correct answers yet, this one is not tool related. The price tag on
this item was $500, I didn't buy it but took a few shots to include on my
site.
I added another photo of it that shows the other end:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

441. Lawn mower


A partially complete answer page can be seen he

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#439 PIR detector. Usually they have a fresnel lense. Is this one 360
degrees?


Yes, the answer page has a link to more specs on it.

#440 Piston from hand pump of some kind. The grooves are for o-rings?


The grooves aren't for o-rings.


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436 are precision standards. Standard Lighting rod balls and needles.


My guess for these was either lightning rod tips that have been made into an
office decoration or as others have stated, apparatus for some type of
electrical experiments. I been doing some searching and haven't yet found
anything like them.


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Wooden shingles are sawn, not split. Shakes are split. See
http://www.bearcreeklumber.com/produ...sshingles.html

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R.H. wrote:
Four of them have been answered correctly:



436. I haven't been able to confirm what this is.

437. Golf tee

438. Froe

439. Motion detector

440. No correct answers yet, this one is not tool related. The price tag on
this item was $500, I didn't buy it but took a few shots to include on my
site.
I added another photo of it that shows the other end:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

441. Lawn mower


A partially complete answer page can be seen he

http://pzphotosan79emc.blogspot.com/


Rob


440. Injector/Vaccinator: Cattle
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R.H. wrote:

My guess for these was either lightning rod tips that have been made into an
office decoration or as others have stated, apparatus for some type of
electrical experiments.


OK, if you don't even know, here is my _wild_ guess:
You know, that masses do "radiate" gravity. It can be shown (in any
class room) how two masses attract each other. Maybe this is for that
experiment. The needles scribe onto some carbon paper or the like. But
my -I say it again- wild theory requires that on the other end there
should be a means to put some thread through (like with a needle).

I remember that experimet having made, but there was a different setup.
So I may be _way_ _off_!


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440. Injector/Vaccinator: Cattle



Nope, not for use on cattle, for that matter it's not really for use on
anything.

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440. Injector/Vaccinator: Cattle


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Nope, not for use on cattle, for that
matter it's not really for
use on anything.


Negative ion generator.


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R.H. wrote:

My guess for these was either lightning rod tips that have been made into an
office decoration or as others have stated, apparatus for some type of
electrical experiments.


OK, if you don't even know, here is my _wild_ guess:
You know, that masses do "radiate" gravity. It can be shown (in any
class room) how two masses attract each other. Maybe this is for that
experiment. The needles scribe onto some carbon paper or the like. But
my -I say it again- wild theory requires that on the other end there
should be a means to put some thread through (like with a needle).


Hmm ... are the brass balls mostly solid, or hollow? (There may
be a hole through if the "scribes" are a single piece, but you need to
have a *lot* of mass for this kind of experiment to show results.

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436: A spindle for receipts and such.

437: Chess pawn (from the bottom).

438: I'll agree with the previous poster, used for making shingles.

439: Motion sensor.

440: Would appear to work with some other device which would
presumably have the cylinder for the piston. Perhaps a
cattle-slaughtering tool where the rest of it is removable or
disposable.
441: Perhaps for thatching, or seeding.

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I used to use a pair of balls like these - no points as voltage regulators.
At a certain separation - as the current arcs between the balls - defines a voltage.
The angle of the surface - the diameter of the ball... - determines the sharpness and
current density at the two near points. Lots of neat Physics floating in those balls.

They are for the most part decoration however in this mode, the current might
burn the tip as it flows down and hits the ball - the charge flows over the surface
and changes current density...

The ball sits on the mounting rod - into a holder - likely brass or bronze and it has
the heavy cable to ground.

Really, they are current sources - sending streams of electrons looking for a down strike.

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R.H. wrote:
436 are precision standards. Standard Lighting rod balls and needles.




My guess for these was either lightning rod tips that have been made into an
office decoration or as others have stated, apparatus for some type of
electrical experiments. I been doing some searching and haven't yet found
anything like them.


Rob



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436. A punch-like device for making indentations in metal. The big weight
is used for harder metals, the small weight for softer metals.


A variation on this idea has been offered in the comments on my site, it was
suggested that it could be a puncture test device, possibly for roofing
materials, but I couldn't verify this on the web.


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440. Injector/Vaccinator: Cattle


R.H. wrote:
Nope, not for use on cattle, for that
matter it's not really for
use on anything.


Negative ion generator.



This one isn't an ion generator.


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440. Injector/Vaccinator: Cattle




Nope, not for use on cattle, for that matter it's not really for use on
anything.

Rob


is it a welding torch (welding machine)?

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is it a welding torch (welding machine)?


It has nothing to do with welding, as I mentioned it's not tool related so
it isn't used for any type of task.


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440) At a guess, I would say the plunger out of an air rifle, either
BB or pellet. That part to the left looks like a trigger.




It's not an air rifle or BB gun, nor does it spray water as others have
guessed, but you're right about the left part being a trigger.

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Lumpy:
Negative ion generator.


R.H.:
This one isn't an ion generator.



Toy Ray Gun?


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Negative ion generator.

R.H.:
This one isn't an ion generator.



Toy Ray Gun?



This answer is correct, it's one of the better ray guns that I've seen. A
full photo of it can be seen on the answer page:

http://pzphotosan79emc.blogspot.com/

I opened the tank on top of it and didn't see a connection to the barrel so
I didn't think it could shoot water, but I'm going to have to take a closer
look at it in a few weeks since elsewhere on the web someone said that it
could.


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Negative ion generator.


R.H.:
This one isn't an ion generator.



Toy Ray Gun?



This answer is correct, it's one of the better ray guns that I've seen. A
full photo of it can be seen on the answer page:

http://pzphotosan79emc.blogspot.com/

I opened the tank on top of it and didn't see a connection to the barrel so
I didn't think it could shoot water, but I'm going to have to take a closer
look at it in a few weeks since elsewhere on the web someone said that it
could.


It looks to me as though a pull on the trigger should slide the
barrel. back into the main housing, and if that housing is full of
water it. will be sprayed out the nozzle. I expec a spring and a piston
to live in the larger diameter back part of the housing.

Releasing the spring would probably draw in water from the upper
reservoir through a check valve, and I would expect a second check valve
in the brass nozzle -- both of which could now be non-functional.

I expect that it could have corroded solid, especially if put
away with water still in it for a long period.

A neat toy,
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Hmm ... are the brass balls mostly solid, or hollow? (There may
be a hole through if the "scribes" are a single piece, but you need to
have a *lot* of mass for this kind of experiment to show results.



The owner of this one says that the balls are solid, and that it's 9" tall
to the top of the rods.


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Hmm ... are the brass balls mostly solid, or hollow? (There may
be a hole through if the "scribes" are a single piece, but you need to
have a *lot* of mass for this kind of experiment to show results.



The owner of this one says that the balls are solid, and that it's 9" tall
to the top of the rods.


O.K. That would be about 4-5" diameter for the larger of the
two balls, I guess.

That *might* be enough to see the gravitational deflection of the
smaller as the larger approaches -- with magnification examining the
point at the bottom of the suspended smaller ball. And this would
require some rather low-friction suspension -- perhaps a piece of thin
music wire a few feet long attached to the upper end of the rod.

But I'm not at all sure that this is the *intended* function of
these balls. I would love to know what they turn out to be.

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R.H. wrote:
The owner of this one says that the
balls are solid, and that
it's 9" tall to the top of the rods.


Have we determined if the balls/rods,
when in use, remain in the wooden frame?
Or is the frame simply a display fixture?


Lumpy


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