it just dawned on me, watching the news coverage of the Canooks and us bickering
about who 'started it'. maybe _no_one_ wants to admit that some part of this
grid was under control of WinTel platforms?(!)

it's really just a coincidence that this 'worm' took down some networks
starting on Monday, right? --Loren

Thought you might find this article informative:
http://www.workingforchange.com/prin...m?itemid=15459


lcoe wrote:

it just dawned on me, watching the news coverage of the Canooks and us bickering
about who 'started it'. maybe _no_one_ wants to admit that some part of this
grid was under control of WinTel platforms?(!)

it's really just a coincidence that this 'worm' took down some networks
starting on Monday, right? --Loren

lcoe wrote in message .net...
it just dawned on me, watching the news coverage of the Canooks and us bickering
about who 'started it'. maybe _no_one_ wants to admit that some part of this
grid was under control of WinTel platforms?(!)

it's really just a coincidence that this 'worm' took down some networks
starting on Monday, right? --Loren

(ahem)

"Canooks"?

And, yes, Bill Gates and w32.blaster are to blame.

-k

In rec.crafts.metalworking k_teppo wrote:
lcoe wrote in message .net...
it just dawned on me, watching the news coverage of the Canooks and us bickering
about who 'started it'. maybe _no_one_ wants to admit that some part of this
grid was under control of WinTel platforms?(!)

it's really just a coincidence that this 'worm' took down some networks
starting on Monday, right? --Loren

(ahem)
"Canooks"?

oh, my mistake, Canuks(?). --Loren (whose mother was born in Canada)

And, yes, Bill Gates and w32.blaster are to blame.

-k

On 17 Aug 2003 19:17:21 -0700, the renowned
(k_teppo) wrote:

lcoe wrote in message .net...
it just dawned on me, watching the news coverage of the Canooks and us bickering
about who 'started it'. maybe _no_one_ wants to admit that some part of this
grid was under control of WinTel platforms?(!)

it's really just a coincidence that this 'worm' took down some networks
starting on Monday, right? --Loren

(ahem)

"Canooks"?

Canook +blackout = Canooky (?) ;-)

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message
...
Canook +blackout = Canooky (?) ;-)

What do you call female Canadians? Canookie...

Tim

--
In the immortal words of Ned Flanders: "No foot longs!"
Website @ http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms

On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 03:49:29 GMT, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On 17 Aug 2003 19:17:21 -0700, the renowned
(k_teppo) wrote:

lcoe wrote in message .net...
it just dawned on me, watching the news coverage of the Canooks and us bickering
about who 'started it'. maybe _no_one_ wants to admit that some part of this
grid was under control of WinTel platforms?(!)

it's really just a coincidence that this 'worm' took down some networks
starting on Monday, right? --Loren

(ahem)

"Canooks"?

Canook +blackout = Canooky (?) ;-)

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

We will find out in 9 months..eh?

Gunner

"What do you call someone in possesion of all the facts? Paranoid.-William Burroughs

Gunner wrote in message . ..
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 03:49:29 GMT, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On 17 Aug 2003 19:17:21 -0700, the renowned
(k_teppo) wrote:

lcoe wrote in message .net...
it just dawned on me, watching the news coverage of the Canooks and us bickering
about who 'started it'. maybe _no_one_ wants to admit that some part of this
grid was under control of WinTel platforms?(!)

it's really just a coincidence that this 'worm' took down some networks
starting on Monday, right? --Loren

(ahem)

"Canooks"?

Canook +blackout = Canooky (?) ;-)

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

We will find out in 9 months..eh?


"There were fluctuations hours before the failure" . Sounds like a
positive feedback effect caused the problem .

e.g. so many control systems trying to compensate for the original
glitch, due to the sheer size of the grid it began oscillating at a
low frequency which built up and finally caused a system failure .

Recall Tahoma Narrows bridge . Wind was just at the wrong speed to
induce resonance .

Perhaps a seismic event caused it ? Something caused a slow build-up
(perhaps current was being drawn in the right pattern + some other
event) causing the above scenario a couple of hours later .

-A

Gunner

"What do you call someone in possesion of all the facts? Paranoid.-William Burroughs

I think the fix is in for a massive rate increase...this will soften
up the opposition quite a bit. Rolling blackouts did the same in
Calif. a few years ago, Enron got rich, manipulators looted the
company, and the retirees got $hit. Who will get rich this
time?-Jitney

jitney wrote:

I think the fix is in for a massive rate increase...this will soften
up the opposition quite a bit. Rolling blackouts did the same in
Calif. a few years ago, Enron got rich, manipulators looted the
company, and the retirees got $hit. Who will get rich this
time?-Jitney

The same as always, the trial lawyers.