I've been running on Microsoft XP Pro for about a year now.

Today, when I went to access my D-drive, which I use to host most of my
data and backup files, XP Pro declared it as being "unformatted" and
offered to format it for me. Of course I declined.

Does anyone here with more OS expertise than myself have any useful
suggestions to offer as to how I should proceed?

If you will recall from my previous posts, XP decided to format all of
the drives on my system (whether CMOS enabled or not), costing me
something like 7 years of program and account data. I really fear that
if I do anything, the same thing will again take place.

What should I do?

Harry C.

In article . com,
wrote:
I've been running on Microsoft XP Pro for about a year now.

Today, when I went to access my D-drive, which I use to host most of my
data and backup files, XP Pro declared it as being "unformatted" and
offered to format it for me. Of course I declined.

Does anyone here with more OS expertise than myself have any useful
suggestions to offer as to how I should proceed?

If you will recall from my previous posts, XP decided to format all of
the drives on my system (whether CMOS enabled or not), costing me
something like 7 years of program and account data. I really fear that
if I do anything, the same thing will again take place.

What should I do?

Harry C.




Look in Event View to see if there are any error messages.
Right Mouse Click on My Computer
Pick Manage
Click on Event Viewer
Click on system


Look for red flags and look for the event code.

If you find event code errors You might want to go to the support page
on www/microsoft.com and search the Knowledgebase for the error mesage
and event code.

Go to
microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
and post the question and anything you've discovered.

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In article . com,
wrote:

I've been running on Microsoft XP Pro for about a year now.

Today, when I went to access my D-drive, which I use to host most of my
data and backup files, XP Pro declared it as being "unformatted" and
offered to format it for me. Of course I declined.

Does anyone here with more OS expertise than myself have any useful
suggestions to offer as to how I should proceed?

If you will recall from my previous posts, XP decided to format all of
the drives on my system (whether CMOS enabled or not), costing me
something like 7 years of program and account data. I really fear that
if I do anything, the same thing will again take place.

What should I do?

Harry C.


Get a Mac?

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You may have some underlying hardware issues.

wrote in message
ups.com...
I've been running on Microsoft XP Pro for about a year now.

Today, when I went to access my D-drive, which I use to host most of my
data and backup files, XP Pro declared it as being "unformatted" and
offered to format it for me. Of course I declined.

Thanks Al, but where do I find event view?

Harry C.

wrote in message
ups.com...
I've been running on Microsoft XP Pro for about a year now.

Today, when I went to access my D-drive, which I use to host most of my
data and backup files, XP Pro declared it as being "unformatted" and
offered to format it for me. Of course I declined.

Does anyone here with more OS expertise than myself have any useful
suggestions to offer as to how I should proceed?

If you will recall from my previous posts, XP decided to format all of
the drives on my system (whether CMOS enabled or not), costing me
something like 7 years of program and account data. I really fear that
if I do anything, the same thing will again take place.

What should I do?

Harry C.



Hard drive is TU!

Lane

Event viewer can be accessed a number of ways, but I generally right
click on 'My Computer' Left click on 'Manage'. You'll see it in there.
You may or may not find anything of any use, so don't get your hopes
too high.

you might try a utility to look at the drive. XP has given more than
one of us a fit as it makes decisions such as this. I'd Google your
issue. There's a site called nonags.com that has a lot of good, free
utilities. They make sure there isn't any spyware & such in them.

Jim

On 13 Apr 2005 12:50:00 -0700, wrote:

,;I've been running on Microsoft XP Pro for about a year now.
,;
,;Today, when I went to access my D-drive, which I use to host most of my
,;data and backup files, XP Pro declared it as being "unformatted" and
,;offered to format it for me. Of course I declined.
,;
,;Does anyone here with more OS expertise than myself have any useful
,;suggestions to offer as to how I should proceed?
,;
,;If you will recall from my previous posts, XP decided to format all of
,;the drives on my system (whether CMOS enabled or not), costing me
,;something like 7 years of program and account data. I really fear that
,;if I do anything, the same thing will again take place.
,;
I would download a copy of Knopix. It is a free Linux operating system
that can be run from a CD. It can read NTFS formatted hard drives. It
boots and runs from a CD. Shut down the computer, remove the CD, and
reboot and you are back to your original OS.

Also look at http://www.ntfs.com/products.htm They have a DOS program
(free) that will read NTFS drives.

What kind of crappy hard drives are you using? Some, like the last of
the Fujitsu IDE line, just die. Nothing to do with XP.
Or mabee like the ****ty A-Open motherboard on one of my customer's
machines, which needs replacement for the second time in less than a
year- can't find the modem, hard drives, camera, etc.
I've sold lots of them, with no problems - and this guy gets 2 bad
ones in a row -------.

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:08:50 -0700, "TT" wrote:

You may have some underlying hardware issues.

wrote in message
oups.com...
I've been running on Microsoft XP Pro for about a year now.

Today, when I went to access my D-drive, which I use to host most of my
data and backup files, XP Pro declared it as being "unformatted" and
offered to format it for me. Of course I declined.

Like I said before....

http://www.ontrack.com, get easyrecovery professional

it has worked every time I've used it, even on disks with physically damaged
sectors

Isn't cheap, but works great

-Tom

wrote in message
ups.com...
I've been running on Microsoft XP Pro for about a year now.

Today, when I went to access my D-drive, which I use to host most of my
data and backup files, XP Pro declared it as being "unformatted" and
offered to format it for me. Of course I declined.

Does anyone here with more OS expertise than myself have any useful
suggestions to offer as to how I should proceed?

If you will recall from my previous posts, XP decided to format all of
the drives on my system (whether CMOS enabled or not), costing me
something like 7 years of program and account data. I really fear that
if I do anything, the same thing will again take place.

What should I do?

Harry C.

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:08:50 -0700, "TT" wrote:

You may have some underlying hardware issues.

Thats what its starting to sound like, more and more. Either a bad
drive cable, or a bad drive controller chip. Or a rapidly fading FAT
table.

Reseat your drive cables, or replace (they are cheap) and if it crops
up again...either try another drive controller care (turn off onboard
controller), or replace drive with a known good one.

Gunner


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I've been running on Microsoft XP Pro for about a year now.

Today, when I went to access my D-drive, which I use to host most of my
data and backup files, XP Pro declared it as being "unformatted" and
offered to format it for me. Of course I declined.



Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

On 13 Apr 2005 12:50:00 -0700, wrote:

If you will recall from my previous posts, XP decided to format all of
the drives on my system (whether CMOS enabled or not), costing me
something like 7 years of program and account data. I really fear that
if I do anything, the same thing will again take place.

What should I do?

Sorry to be blunt, but:
1. Learn from your mistakes
2. Back up your freaking data regularly if it's important.

As far as your immediate problem, lots of good programs were posted here
in the last week that should help with your problem. Obviously, don't
let Windows format the drive. Find one of the programs mentioned here
that talk specifically about your situation, & pay the man for the
software.

....and FFS, buy a CD-R or DVD-R drive and start backing up your stuff.
Windows, being Windows, will eat data from time to time.

wrote:
I've been running on Microsoft XP Pro for about a year now.

Today, when I went to access my D-drive, which I use to host most of
my
data and backup files, XP Pro declared it as being "unformatted" and
offered to format it for me. Of course I declined.

Does anyone here with more OS expertise than myself have any useful
suggestions to offer as to how I should proceed?

If you will recall from my previous posts, XP decided to format all
of
the drives on my system (whether CMOS enabled or not), costing me
something like 7 years of program and account data. I really fear
that
if I do anything, the same thing will again take place.

What should I do?

Harry C.

I've been using DFSee to recover NTFS drives and partitions,
www.dfsee.com. Registered users can get help from the author via
newsgroups or email. I've had several instances where Windows nailed
the partition tables and boot sectors on my 250 G work drives, I was
able to recreate them and recover my data with little or no loss. The
author now provides a bootable CD disk image to registered users so
even if the machine is in a nonbootable condition, you can poke around
on the disks.

Downside is you HAVE to know what you are doing, patching disk
structures isn't for the tyro. The DFSee author has a number of
tutorial links on his site, these may or may not be enough to help you
out. He's made the latest versions a lot easier to use with menus,
before, it was strictly a command-line thing. You can use the program
to clone a drive so you can noodle around without messing with the
original, one way to develop the knowledge. Takes about a day and a
half to clone a 250 G drive, just did it last weekend.

Stan

I'd suspect the power supply or something in his environment - flaky
printer, AC power, hot room, flaky monitor, something.



On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:33:18 -0400,
wrote:

What kind of crappy hard drives are you using? Some, like the last of
the Fujitsu IDE line, just die. Nothing to do with XP.
Or mabee like the ****ty A-Open motherboard on one of my customer's
machines, which needs replacement for the second time in less than a
year- can't find the modem, hard drives, camera, etc.
I've sold lots of them, with no problems - and this guy gets 2 bad
ones in a row -------.

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:08:50 -0700, "TT" wrote:

You may have some underlying hardware issues.

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I've been running on Microsoft XP Pro for about a year now.

Today, when I went to access my D-drive, which I use to host most of my
data and backup files, XP Pro declared it as being "unformatted" and
offered to format it for me. Of course I declined.



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On 14 Apr 2005 14:50:34 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:

On 13 Apr 2005 12:50:00 -0700, wrote:

If you will recall from my previous posts, XP decided to format all of
the drives on my system (whether CMOS enabled or not), costing me
something like 7 years of program and account data. I really fear that
if I do anything, the same thing will again take place.

What should I do?

Sorry to be blunt, but:
1. Learn from your mistakes
2. Back up your freaking data regularly if it's important.

As far as your immediate problem, lots of good programs were posted here
in the last week that should help with your problem. Obviously, don't
let Windows format the drive. Find one of the programs mentioned here
that talk specifically about your situation, & pay the man for the
software.

...and FFS, buy a CD-R or DVD-R drive and start backing up your stuff.
Windows, being Windows, will eat data from time to time.


Generally, windows only break when you thow something at them. Same is
true of XP, by and large.

wrote:
I've been running on Microsoft XP Pro for about a year now.

Today, when I went to access my D-drive, which I use to host most of my
data and backup files, XP Pro declared it as being "unformatted" and
offered to format it for me. Of course I declined.

Does anyone here with more OS expertise than myself have any useful
suggestions to offer as to how I should proceed?

If you will recall from my previous posts, XP decided to format all of
the drives on my system (whether CMOS enabled or not), costing me
something like 7 years of program and account data. I really fear that
if I do anything, the same thing will again take place.

What should I do?

Harry C.


Put another (new) drive in its place, and rebuild it from your backups.

If you don't have backups, you most likely have just got lesson #1 of
computer work: backup early and backup often. Most people don't need
more than one such lesson.

In article .com,
wrote:

wrote:
I've been running on Microsoft XP Pro for about a year now.

Today, when I went to access my D-drive, which I use to host most of
my
data and backup files, XP Pro declared it as being "unformatted" and
offered to format it for me. Of course I declined.

Does anyone here with more OS expertise than myself have any useful
suggestions to offer as to how I should proceed?

If you will recall from my previous posts, XP decided to format all
of
the drives on my system (whether CMOS enabled or not), costing me
something like 7 years of program and account data. I really fear
that
if I do anything, the same thing will again take place.

What should I do?

Harry C.

I've been using DFSee to recover NTFS drives and partitions,
www.dfsee.com. Registered users can get help from the author via
newsgroups or email. I've had several instances where Windows nailed
the partition tables and boot sectors on my 250 G work drives, I was
able to recreate them and recover my data with little or no loss. The
author now provides a bootable CD disk image to registered users so
even if the machine is in a nonbootable condition, you can poke around
on the disks.

Downside is you HAVE to know what you are doing, patching disk
structures isn't for the tyro. The DFSee author has a number of
tutorial links on his site, these may or may not be enough to help you
out. He's made the latest versions a lot easier to use with menus,
before, it was strictly a command-line thing. You can use the program
to clone a drive so you can noodle around without messing with the
original, one way to develop the knowledge. Takes about a day and a
half to clone a 250 G drive, just did it last weekend.

Stan



Ontrack (ontrack.com) is a big dog in the data recovery business.
These days they seem to have application you can d/l and run to
analyze the data and show what can be recovered. If you think it's
worth it you pay (ISTR $79).

Years ago a client of mine paid Ontrack $4000 to recover financial
data from a failed server disk rather than put a daily tape in the
tape drive I set up for him (and he paid for).




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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:50:34 +0000, Dave Hinz wrote:

...and FFS, buy a CD-R or DVD-R drive and start backing up your stuff.
Windows, being Windows, will eat data from time to time.

Good advice, but not limited to Windows. Hard drives fail, software
screws up and power hits wreak havoc. In my experience (over 20 years),
there is no statistically significant difference between MS-DOS, Windows,
Unix (including Linux), VMS, or any other OS when it comes to data loss.
RAID and mirrored drives are not immune. It happens. Be prepared.

For important data, use a rotating set of removable media with at least
one copy kept off-site in case of fire, flood, theft, etc. A safe
deposit box is good off-site storage for individuals and small business.

-Ron

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:42:44 GMT, Ron DeBlock wrote:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:50:34 +0000, Dave Hinz wrote:

...and FFS, buy a CD-R or DVD-R drive and start backing up your stuff.
Windows, being Windows, will eat data from time to time.

Good advice, but not limited to Windows. Hard drives fail, software
screws up and power hits wreak havoc. In my experience (over 20 years),
there is no statistically significant difference between MS-DOS, Windows,
Unix (including Linux), VMS, or any other OS when it comes to data loss.

Well, his loss seems to be OS related in this case.

RAID and mirrored drives are not immune. It happens. Be prepared.

Of course. I didn't mean to imply that other OS's don't need backups
and archives - I do my important data regularly on my own systems.

For important data, use a rotating set of removable media with at least
one copy kept off-site in case of fire, flood, theft, etc. A safe
deposit box is good off-site storage for individuals and small business.

Or even at a trusted relative or neighbor's house. I use CD-R or DVD-R
(depending on the platform), keep the most recent disk on-site in a
secure fire-protected location, and keep older copies offsite at my
parents' house. The one on-site is the backup, the old backups become
the archive.

Media is cheap. Lost data is not.

In article ,
Dave Hinz wrote:
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:42:44 GMT, Ron DeBlock wrote:

[ ... ]

For important data, use a rotating set of removable media with at least
one copy kept off-site in case of fire, flood, theft, etc. A safe
deposit box is good off-site storage for individuals and small business.

Or even at a trusted relative or neighbor's house. I use CD-R or DVD-R
(depending on the platform), keep the most recent disk on-site in a
secure fire-protected location, and keep older copies offsite at my
parents' house. The one on-site is the backup, the old backups become
the archive.

Just be sure that the person entrusted with the backups knows
how to safely store them.

Once, many years back, when I was doing the membership and
mailing list for a local folklore organization, I used to bring the
latest set of backups (8" floppies at that time, one for the data, and
one for the programs) to the president of the organization. Once, I got
the previous set back looking somewhat like small pillows. It turns out
that he had stored them in the big "glove compartment" in the back of
his station wagon -- in a Washington DC summer. The heat melted the
creases out of the jackets.

Just out of curiosity, I tried surgically removing the floppies
from their jackets and installing them in the jackets of other, already
dead, floppies. Amazingly enough, I could still read everything on the
floppies -- but I am very glad that I did not have to use those to
recover data.

Later versions moved to 9-track reel-to-reel tapes, and
eventually, QIC-150 tapes before the process moved to someone who was
willing to use a Windows box and software to operate things. (And that
was a painful conversion. :-)

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On 15 Apr 2005 19:12:48 -0400, DoN. Nichols wrote:

Just out of curiosity, I tried surgically removing the floppies
from their jackets and installing them in the jackets of other, already
dead, floppies. Amazingly enough, I could still read everything on the
floppies -- but I am very glad that I did not have to use those to
recover data.

Well, to be fair, at 156K (?) per 8" floppy, you can _see_ the individual
bits at that size...

Later versions moved to 9-track reel-to-reel tapes, and
eventually, QIC-150 tapes before the process moved to someone who was
willing to use a Windows box and software to operate things. (And that
was a painful conversion. :-)

Media migrations are a pain. But if you don't do 'em, you've got 10 years,
20 tops, before they're very very difficult indeed. Paper & stone tablets
aren't all that bad, in that context.

In article ,
Dave Hinz wrote:
On 15 Apr 2005 19:12:48 -0400, DoN. Nichols wrote:

Just out of curiosity, I tried surgically removing the floppies
from their jackets and installing them in the jackets of other, already
dead, floppies. Amazingly enough, I could still read everything on the
floppies -- but I am very glad that I did not have to use those to
recover data.

Well, to be fair, at 156K (?) per 8" floppy, you can _see_ the individual
bits at that size...

Are you sure you aren't thinking of 5.25" floppies? Even single
sided single density floppies were 250K per floppy (26 sectors, 128
bytes per sector, and by that time I was running double sided double
density (1 MB per floppy).

Later versions moved to 9-track reel-to-reel tapes, and
eventually, QIC-150 tapes before the process moved to someone who was
willing to use a Windows box and software to operate things. (And that
was a painful conversion. :-)

Media migrations are a pain. But if you don't do 'em, you've got 10 years,
20 tops, before they're very very difficult indeed. Paper & stone tablets
aren't all that bad, in that context.

Some of my migrations involved re-writing the programs, such as
from the original random disk BASIC (SSB's DOS 68) to Pascal (6809 OS9),
and from Pascal to C to my first unix box. Once in unix, it went from
8" floppies to 9-track tapes, and from there to a Sun platform, and to
the QIC-150 tapes.

When it came time for the Migration to the Windows package, all
I had to do was convert the C structures to a plain ASCII format, and
document it, so the other poor sucker could try to port it into his
selected Windows database program. (My programs were always hand coded
in whatever was the best language for the task available to me on the
current system.)

I've still got the source and the database -- last properly run
on a 68020 based Sun3, and it would take some work to re-tune it for the
current Ultra-SPARC machines.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On 17 Apr 2005 22:03:18 -0400, DoN. Nichols wrote:
In article ,
Dave Hinz wrote:
On 15 Apr 2005 19:12:48 -0400, DoN. Nichols wrote:

Just out of curiosity, I tried surgically removing the floppies
from their jackets and installing them in the jackets of other, already
dead, floppies. Amazingly enough, I could still read everything on the
floppies -- but I am very glad that I did not have to use those to
recover data.

Well, to be fair, at 156K (?) per 8" floppy, you can _see_ the individual
bits at that size...

Are you sure you aren't thinking of 5.25" floppies? Even single
sided single density floppies were 250K per floppy (26 sectors, 128
bytes per sector, and by that time I was running double sided double
density (1 MB per floppy).

I don't remember 8" disks being 250K, but maybe the later ones were.
At least I got in after "hard sectoring", but they still did need the
timing hole.

Media migrations are a pain. But if you don't do 'em, you've got 10 years,
20 tops, before they're very very difficult indeed. Paper & stone tablets
aren't all that bad, in that context.

Some of my migrations involved re-writing the programs, such as
from the original random disk BASIC (SSB's DOS 68) to Pascal (6809 OS9),

I _loved_ OS9 on the 6809. Got my Unix experience started early, more
or less.

and from Pascal to C to my first unix box. Once in unix, it went from
8" floppies to 9-track tapes, and from there to a Sun platform, and to
the QIC-150 tapes.

Want a drive? Nice Sun shoe-box enclosure, with those damn hidden latches
on the side?

I've still got the source and the database -- last properly run
on a 68020 based Sun3, and it would take some work to re-tune it for the
current Ultra-SPARC machines.

Our paths keep crossing, Don.

In article ,
Dave Hinz wrote:
On 17 Apr 2005 22:03:18 -0400, DoN. Nichols wrote:
In article ,
Dave Hinz wrote:
On 15 Apr 2005 19:12:48 -0400, DoN. Nichols wrote:

Just out of curiosity, I tried surgically removing the floppies
from their jackets and installing them in the jackets of other, already
dead, floppies. Amazingly enough, I could still read everything on the
floppies -- but I am very glad that I did not have to use those to
recover data.

Well, to be fair, at 156K (?) per 8" floppy, you can _see_ the individual
bits at that size...

Are you sure you aren't thinking of 5.25" floppies? Even single
sided single density floppies were 250K per floppy (26 sectors, 128
bytes per sector, and by that time I was running double sided double
density (1 MB per floppy).

I don't remember 8" disks being 250K, but maybe the later ones were.

I've finally got it figured out. The earliest thing that had
8" floppies which I dealt with was an IBM drive (very slow step rate,
with Geneva gears driving the leadscrew). That one was 77 tracks, 26
sectors per track, 128 bytes per sector -- but it was being used for
storing punched card images, so there were only 80 bytes stored in that
128 byte sector -- taking the *effective* capacity down to your 156k.

At least I got in after "hard sectoring", but they still did need the
timing hole.

Yep -- I've dealt with some hard sectored ones as well -- and
they held more, because without the soft sectoring overhead, they got 32
128 byte sectors per track.

Even the 3.5" floppies use a timing hole -- it is just on the
hub in the drive, which is keyed to the floppy.

But most of my use of the 8" floppies was either at 500K (Double
Sided, Single Density) or at 1MB (DSDD).

Media migrations are a pain. But if you don't do 'em, you've got 10 years,
20 tops, before they're very very difficult indeed. Paper & stone tablets
aren't all that bad, in that context.

Some of my migrations involved re-writing the programs, such as
from the original random disk BASIC (SSB's DOS 68) to Pascal (6809 OS9),

I _loved_ OS9 on the 6809. Got my Unix experience started early, more
or less.

So did I. It gave me enough experience so when a friend at the
next building at work got a pair of unix boxen to administer (for
e-mail), I was able to show him some tricks, and that resulted in him
talking his boss into giving me a free account, so I could do things
like port net based utilities to the (rather weird) BBN C70 (10-bit
bytes, 20-bit words, 40-bit longs. :-)

The common compress program (LZW algorithm) would work fine on
text files, but blow up spectacularly on binaries. However, there was a
compress program from the OS-9 UGL which had tuning parameters for
10-bit bytes, and that one worked beautifully. It saved his rear a few
times while doing backups.

I'm trying to remember what OS-9 used for a pipe symbol, instead
of the '|' now. :-)

and from Pascal to C to my first unix box. Once in unix, it went from
8" floppies to 9-track tapes, and from there to a Sun platform, and to
the QIC-150 tapes.

Want a drive? Nice Sun shoe-box enclosure, with those damn hidden latches
on the side?

Oh -- you mean the sandwichbox ones -- half the height of the
LX and several others of the small square box computers. I've already
got several drives, including one QIC-150 in the Solbourne box (a
semi-clone of the SS2 boxen, but faster and neater). From here, I can
see four of the sandwichbox enclosures -- one disk, and three CD-ROMs,
one of the "lunchbox" enclosures with a 1GB 5.25" full height in it) and
two of the later unipack enclosures -- one SCA disk, and one Exabyte
8505XL tape, and below those two, a 6-drive MultiPack (one of three of
those that I have).

I've still got the source and the database -- last properly run
on a 68020 based Sun3, and it would take some work to re-tune it for the
current Ultra-SPARC machines.

Our paths keep crossing, Don.

:-)

Enjoy,
DoN.
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