The circuit breaker for the electrical outlets and lights for my
kitchen and bathroom opened. I unplugged everything and turned off all
the lights and it still opens. I inspected all the outlets for a sign
of a short and they all look fine. The wire from the breaker reads
zero ohms to ground. I assume there is a short in the wiring behind
the wall somewhere.

I will be calling in an electrician to troubleshoot and repair the
problem Monday. I am hoping he will have some kind of a sniffer that
can inject a signal into the shorted line and then zero in on the short
location. Does such a thing exist or am I into the major job of
replacing all the wire?

Rod

wrote:
The circuit breaker for the electrical outlets and lights for my
kitchen and bathroom opened. I unplugged everything and turned off all
the lights and it still opens. I inspected all the outlets for a sign
of a short and they all look fine. The wire from the breaker reads
zero ohms to ground. I assume there is a short in the wiring behind
the wall somewhere.

I will be calling in an electrician to troubleshoot and repair the
problem Monday. I am hoping he will have some kind of a sniffer that
can inject a signal into the shorted line and then zero in on the short
location. Does such a thing exist or am I into the major job of
replacing all the wire?

Rod

Hi,
Bad circuit breaker? Never know if you did not check it.
Tony

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:40:06 GMT, Tony Hwang wrote:

wrote:
The circuit breaker for the electrical outlets and lights for my
kitchen and bathroom opened. I unplugged everything and turned off all
the lights and it still opens. I inspected all the outlets for a sign
of a short and they all look fine. The wire from the breaker reads
zero ohms to ground. I assume there is a short in the wiring behind
the wall somewhere.

I will be calling in an electrician to troubleshoot and repair the
problem Monday. I am hoping he will have some kind of a sniffer that
can inject a signal into the shorted line and then zero in on the short
location. Does such a thing exist or am I into the major job of
replacing all the wire?

Rod

Hi,
Bad circuit breaker? Never know if you did not check it.
Tony

Not if he measures zero ohms to ground, that's a hard short and
there's no way for a bad breaker to do that.

It's rare for a wire to short in the wall, unless you have mice, or
drive a nail through it (recently or in the past). Did you actually
take out all the outlets and inspect the wires carefully? Don't forget
ceiling fixtures and anything else that may be on the circuit. I
usually find these come down to a nicked wire in a box.

wrote in message
ups.com...
The circuit breaker for the electrical outlets and lights for my
kitchen and bathroom opened. I unplugged everything and turned off all
the lights and it still opens. I inspected all the outlets for a sign
of a short and they all look fine. The wire from the breaker reads
zero ohms to ground. I assume there is a short in the wiring behind
the wall somewhere.

I will be calling in an electrician to troubleshoot and repair the
problem Monday. I am hoping he will have some kind of a sniffer that
can inject a signal into the shorted line and then zero in on the short
location. Does such a thing exist or am I into the major job of
replacing all the wire?

Rod


This is Turtle.

Well I can't see it or look at the meter reading from here so. Wait for the
electrician but you can invest in a electric receptical analizer from Radio
Shack , Low's, Home Depot, Southerlands, or any electric supply outlet store.
You just plug it into the receptical and watch the lites lite up on it and it
will tell you what the problem is by what lite lites up and in what order on the
lite part of the plug in device. They are about $3.00 and well worth the cost to
get a look at what is wrong with it.

TURTLE

TURTLE wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
The circuit breaker for the electrical outlets and lights for my
kitchen and bathroom opened. I unplugged everything and turned off
all the lights and it still opens. I inspected all the outlets for
a sign of a short and they all look fine. The wire from the breaker
reads zero ohms to ground. I assume there is a short in the wiring
behind the wall somewhere.

I will be calling in an electrician to troubleshoot and repair the
problem Monday. I am hoping he will have some kind of a sniffer that
can inject a signal into the shorted line and then zero in on the
short location. Does such a thing exist or am I into the major job
of replacing all the wire?

Rod


This is Turtle.

Well I can't see it or look at the meter reading from here so. Wait
for the electrician but you can invest in a electric receptical
analizer from Radio Shack , Low's, Home Depot, Southerlands, or any
electric supply outlet store. You just plug it into the receptical
and watch the lites lite up on it and it will tell you what the
problem is by what lite lites up and in what order on the lite part
of the plug in device. They are about $3.00 and well worth the cost
to get a look at what is wrong with it.
TURTLE

For $3, all that's going to tell him is if the receptacle is wired properly.
Which isn't his problem it would appear.

--
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No, I won't get dressed.
I'm retired!

How about light bulbs and nightlights? YOu also have to either remove those
or turn off the switches that turn them on. In other words, be sure it's
just receptacles, not a closet lite or something somewhere.

Zero ohms: On what scale? You need to use a scale that can show you ten to
twenty ohms or less. If it was a 1k scale, then it might easily look like
zero. Although, your descrip does sound like it's a dead short, it's best
to be sure.

Did you make sure the breaker went all the way off and then all the way on?
Some breakers go to a sort of "middle" position when they pop, and you have
to push it the rest of the way off before it'll actually turn back on.

Just a couple thoughts,

Pop

Tony Hwang wrote:
wrote:
The circuit breaker for the electrical outlets and lights for my
kitchen and bathroom opened. I unplugged everything and turned off
all the lights and it still opens. I inspected all the outlets for
a sign of a short and they all look fine. The wire from the breaker
reads zero ohms to ground. I assume there is a short in the wiring
behind the wall somewhere.

I will be calling in an electrician to troubleshoot and repair the
problem Monday. I am hoping he will have some kind of a sniffer that
can inject a signal into the shorted line and then zero in on the
short location. Does such a thing exist or am I into the major job
of replacing all the wire?

Rod

Hi,
Bad circuit breaker? Never know if you did not check it.
Tony



--
---
No, I won't get dressed.
I'm retired!

"Pop" wrote in message
...
TURTLE wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
The circuit breaker for the electrical outlets and lights for my
kitchen and bathroom opened. I unplugged everything and turned off
all the lights and it still opens. I inspected all the outlets for
a sign of a short and they all look fine. The wire from the breaker
reads zero ohms to ground. I assume there is a short in the wiring
behind the wall somewhere.

I will be calling in an electrician to troubleshoot and repair the
problem Monday. I am hoping he will have some kind of a sniffer that
can inject a signal into the shorted line and then zero in on the
short location. Does such a thing exist or am I into the major job
of replacing all the wire?

Rod


This is Turtle.

Well I can't see it or look at the meter reading from here so. Wait
for the electrician but you can invest in a electric receptical
analizer from Radio Shack , Low's, Home Depot, Southerlands, or any
electric supply outlet store. You just plug it into the receptical
and watch the lites lite up on it and it will tell you what the
problem is by what lite lites up and in what order on the lite part
of the plug in device. They are about $3.00 and well worth the cost
to get a look at what is wrong with it.
TURTLE

For $3, all that's going to tell him is if the receptacle is wired properly.
Which isn't his problem it would appear.


This is Turtle.

You need to try one now days and see it say broke common, broken ground, no
power on hot, reversed polarity, and you don't want to know if any of this stuff
is going on or has happen to the circuit system. OH yea, that is right the
common wires will never come loose or break the connection because this never
happens.

TURTLE

You iddn't read the most important part of the OP's writing. I'll delete all
but the part you missed.

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Learn more about Jesus
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"Tony Hwang" wrote in message
news:GlxPd.370948$8l.232010@pd7tw1no...
wrote:


The wire from the breaker reads
zero ohms to ground.

Rod

Hi,
Bad circuit breaker? Never know if you did not check it.
Tony

It's wise to pull the sockets and look for shorts there. I know of no
magical sniffer. The electrician might....

In the meantime it sounds like work.

--

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com


wrote in message
ups.com...
The circuit breaker for the electrical outlets and lights for my
kitchen and bathroom opened. I unplugged everything and turned off all
the lights and it still opens. I inspected all the outlets for a sign
of a short and they all look fine. The wire from the breaker reads
zero ohms to ground. I assume there is a short in the wiring behind
the wall somewhere.

I will be calling in an electrician to troubleshoot and repair the
problem Monday. I am hoping he will have some kind of a sniffer that
can inject a signal into the shorted line and then zero in on the short
location. Does such a thing exist or am I into the major job of
replacing all the wire?

Rod

TURTLE wrote:
"Pop" wrote in message
...
TURTLE wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
The circuit breaker for the electrical outlets and lights for my
kitchen and bathroom opened. I unplugged everything and turned off
all the lights and it still opens. I inspected all the outlets for
a sign of a short and they all look fine. The wire from the
breaker reads zero ohms to ground. I assume there is a short in
the wiring behind the wall somewhere.

I will be calling in an electrician to troubleshoot and repair the
problem Monday. I am hoping he will have some kind of a sniffer
that can inject a signal into the shorted line and then zero in on
the short location. Does such a thing exist or am I into the
major job of replacing all the wire?

Rod


This is Turtle.

Well I can't see it or look at the meter reading from here so. Wait
for the electrician but you can invest in a electric receptical
analizer from Radio Shack , Low's, Home Depot, Southerlands, or any
electric supply outlet store. You just plug it into the receptical
and watch the lites lite up on it and it will tell you what the
problem is by what lite lites up and in what order on the lite part
of the plug in device. They are about $3.00 and well worth the cost
to get a look at what is wrong with it.
TURTLE

For $3, all that's going to tell him is if the receptacle is wired
properly. Which isn't his problem it would appear.


This is Turtle.

You need to try one now days and see it say broke common, broken
ground, no power on hot, reversed polarity, and you don't want to
know if any of this stuff is going on or has happen to the circuit
system. OH yea, that is right the common wires will never come loose
or break the connection because this never happens.

TURTLE

I have one, fool; it isn't what he needs at the moment. His problem is an
exposed, hot wire which blows a breaker when he connects it. Polarity
hasn't got a whole lot to do with his situation at the moment. He has a
meter which will also tell the same things those cheapie LEDs show.
Your way isn't the only way and isn't a requirement for anyone but
yourself. I use mine all the time, but when it gets down to doing the
electrical work, I'm using my meter/s; then I can work with power off.
--
---
No, I won't get dressed.
I'm retired!

"Pop" wrote in message
...
TURTLE wrote:
"Pop" wrote in message
...
TURTLE wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
The circuit breaker for the electrical outlets and lights for my
kitchen and bathroom opened. I unplugged everything and turned off
all the lights and it still opens. I inspected all the outlets for
a sign of a short and they all look fine. The wire from the
breaker reads zero ohms to ground. I assume there is a short in
the wiring behind the wall somewhere.

I will be calling in an electrician to troubleshoot and repair the
problem Monday. I am hoping he will have some kind of a sniffer
that can inject a signal into the shorted line and then zero in on
the short location. Does such a thing exist or am I into the
major job of replacing all the wire?

Rod


This is Turtle.

Well I can't see it or look at the meter reading from here so. Wait
for the electrician but you can invest in a electric receptical
analizer from Radio Shack , Low's, Home Depot, Southerlands, or any
electric supply outlet store. You just plug it into the receptical
and watch the lites lite up on it and it will tell you what the
problem is by what lite lites up and in what order on the lite part
of the plug in device. They are about $3.00 and well worth the cost
to get a look at what is wrong with it.
TURTLE

For $3, all that's going to tell him is if the receptacle is wired
properly. Which isn't his problem it would appear.


This is Turtle.

You need to try one now days and see it say broke common, broken
ground, no power on hot, reversed polarity, and you don't want to
know if any of this stuff is going on or has happen to the circuit
system. OH yea, that is right the common wires will never come loose
or break the connection because this never happens.

TURTLE

I have one, fool; it isn't what he needs at the moment. His problem is an
exposed, hot wire which blows a breaker when he connects it. Polarity hasn't
got a whole lot to do with his situation at the moment. He has a meter which
will also tell the same things those cheapie LEDs show.
Your way isn't the only way and isn't a requirement for anyone but yourself.
I use mine all the time, but when it gets down to doing the electrical work,
I'm using my meter/s; then I can work with power off.
--
---
No, I won't get dressed.
I'm retired!

This is Turtle.

So if your judgement is better than mine. Tell the man what the problem is and
explain it to all of us know nothings.

TURTLE