The generator battery was dead. Tossed a car charger on it for trickle
charge and it cooked the charger. Yes the charger was good as it was trickle
charging a vette battery minutes earlier.

Removed battery and bought indoors. It was frozen solid. Its now thawed out.

Now that questions...

1. - battery is around half full of liquid. If I put some water in it will
it have any chance of working if we charge it? The battery is around 2 years
old and came with the 5k watt electric start generator. The generator has
been run maybe a total of 8 hours in two years.

2. - if I put another charger on this battery do I have a possible chance of
ruining that charger also? Already gone through one charger today.

3. - if I place jumper cables from truck battery to this small generator I
assume that it might start. Just wondering if I have too much current from
my truck if any damage could be done to the generator start circuit.
Naaaa.........

And here comes this blizard in New England.

TIA.

The old battery probably shorted internally, so I wouldn't try another
charger. Yes, you can use your truck to jump it, assuming its 12 volts and
when you get a new battery, I know Sears sells these little trickle chargers
you hang off the battery and plug in, which should keep it from freezing too
"oreo123" wrote in message
...
The generator battery was dead. Tossed a car charger on it for trickle
charge and it cooked the charger. Yes the charger was good as it was
trickle charging a vette battery minutes earlier.

Removed battery and bought indoors. It was frozen solid. Its now thawed
out.

Now that questions...

1. - battery is around half full of liquid. If I put some water in it
will it have any chance of working if we charge it? The battery is around
2 years old and came with the 5k watt electric start generator. The
generator has been run maybe a total of 8 hours in two years.

2. - if I put another charger on this battery do I have a possible chance
of ruining that charger also? Already gone through one charger today.

3. - if I place jumper cables from truck battery to this small generator I
assume that it might start. Just wondering if I have too much current from
my truck if any damage could be done to the generator start circuit.
Naaaa.........

And here comes this blizard in New England.

TIA.

Assuming that you are talking about a 12 volt battery on your generator,
your truck battery jump should be just fine.

I have had batteries come back to life (after a full dead state) when they
had totally reached a dry state (NO water), but I am not as sure about the
situation if they did have some water. I would say there is a decent chance
that the battery could come back to life.

There is a risk of hurting the charger, especially if the battery has a
direct short.

You might try this :


1. fill the dead battery with water, and reinstall it in your generator.

2. jump start the generator with your truck battery.

3. see if your generator recharges its battery.

Good luck, and please let us know !!

--James--

Trickle charger. You are a wise man. Please specify "FLOAT" charger, which
isn't supposed to over charge. Charged battery much less likely to freeze.

--

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com


"RBM" rmottola1(remove wrote in message
...
The old battery probably shorted internally, so I wouldn't try another
charger. Yes, you can use your truck to jump it, assuming its 12 volts and
when you get a new battery, I know Sears sells these little trickle chargers
you hang off the battery and plug in, which should keep it from freezing too


"oreo123" wrote in message
...
The generator battery was dead. Tossed a car charger on it for trickle
charge and it cooked the charger. Yes the charger was good as it was
trickle charging a vette battery minutes earlier.

Removed battery and bought indoors. It was frozen solid. Its now thawed
out.

Now that questions...

1. - battery is around half full of liquid. If I put some water in it
will it have any chance of working if we charge it? The battery is around
2 years old and came with the 5k watt electric start generator. The
generator has been run maybe a total of 8 hours in two years.

2. - if I put another charger on this battery do I have a possible chance
of ruining that charger also? Already gone through one charger today.

3. - if I place jumper cables from truck battery to this small generator I
assume that it might start. Just wondering if I have too much current from
my truck if any damage could be done to the generator start circuit.
Naaaa.........

And here comes this blizard in New England.

TIA.

More inserted.

--

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com


"oreo123" wrote in message
...
The generator battery was dead. Tossed a car charger on it for trickle
charge and it cooked the charger. Yes the charger was good as it was trickle
charging a vette battery minutes earlier.
CY: Dead short?


Removed battery and bought indoors. It was frozen solid. Its now thawed out.
CY: A storage battery which freezes is dead. Forever. There is no second
chance. A charged battery has a much lower freezing temp, a dead batt
freezes near to 32F.


Now that questions...

1. - battery is around half full of liquid. If I put some water in it will
it have any chance of working if we charge it? The battery is around 2 years
old and came with the 5k watt electric start generator. The generator has
been run maybe a total of 8 hours in two years.
CY: It's dead.


2. - if I put another charger on this battery do I have a possible chance of
ruining that charger also? Already gone through one charger today.
CY: Most likely. Don't risk it.

3. - if I place jumper cables from truck battery to this small generator I
assume that it might start. Just wondering if I have too much current from
my truck if any damage could be done to the generator start circuit.
Naaaa.........
CY: Are they same voltage? If they are both 12 volts (does the generator
battery have SIX caps? it's 2 volts per cap. 2 x 6 camps = 12 volts) it will
work. If you get the postive and negative correct.



And here comes this blizard in New England.
CY: I'm in NY. Six inches already. Church cancelled for tomorrow.


TIA.
CY: YW.

"oreo123" wrote in message
...
The generator battery was dead. Tossed a car charger on it for trickle charge
and it cooked the charger. Yes the charger was good as it was trickle charging
a vette battery minutes earlier.

Removed battery and bought indoors. It was frozen solid. Its now thawed out.

Now that questions...

1. - battery is around half full of liquid. If I put some water in it will it
have any chance of working if we charge it? The battery is around 2 years old
and came with the 5k watt electric start generator. The generator has been run
maybe a total of 8 hours in two years.

2. - if I put another charger on this battery do I have a possible chance of
ruining that charger also? Already gone through one charger today.

3. - if I place jumper cables from truck battery to this small generator I
assume that it might start. Just wondering if I have too much current from my
truck if any damage could be done to the generator start circuit.
Naaaa.........

And here comes this blizard in New England.

TIA.

This is Turtle.

I think Stormy found a acron here but here is a test to run on the battery. Put
a volt meter in D.C. mode on it and read the volts even with it half full of
water. If you get less than 11.5 volts. It is history. If you get 12 to 12.5
volts it is good battery. The 11.5 volts to the 12 volts is the gray area as to
it being good or bad.

Like Stormy said if you can freeze a battery you can kill it but they have to be
in Super cold weather to do this. I have been told that it will mess the plates
up by freezing and shoving one plate into the other and short it. I live in
Louisiana and have never seen this.

Now one thing that you may want to check is you might have bought it from
Walmarts and they have 2 year no cost return of batterys that fail. Also they
have Walmart super stores that stay open 24 hours aday 7 days a week and you can
trade it anytime to get a new one.

TURTLE

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:27:34 -0500, "oreo123"
wrote:

The generator battery was dead. Tossed a car charger on it for trickle
charge and it cooked the charger. Yes the charger was good as it was trickle
charging a vette battery minutes earlier.

Removed battery and bought indoors. It was frozen solid. Its now thawed out.

Now that questions...

1. - battery is around half full of liquid. If I put some water in it will
it have any chance of working if we charge it? The battery is around 2 years
old and came with the 5k watt electric start generator. The generator has
been run maybe a total of 8 hours in two years.

2. - if I put another charger on this battery do I have a possible chance of
ruining that charger also? Already gone through one charger today.

3. - if I place jumper cables from truck battery to this small generator I
assume that it might start. Just wondering if I have too much current from
my truck if any damage could be done to the generator start circuit.
Naaaa.........

And here comes this blizard in New England.

TIA.



FWIW: After loosing a few batteries for my generator I finally
purchaed a replacement from WalMart and along with it they offered a
tickle charge (tiny little thing) that I bolted directly to the
generator frame and hard wired to the battery posts. This I keep
plugged in. This one-time investment has paid for itself when the
generator has been needed several times.

And yes, we've got the blizzard here in NE. Time to fly to the
equator!

Good luck.

Bob

"Bob_M" wrote in message

1. - battery is around half full of liquid. If I put some water in it
will
it have any chance of working if we charge it? The battery is around 2
years
old and came with the 5k watt electric start generator. The generator has
been run maybe a total of 8 hours in two years.


It may, but it can be risky. Batteries can be dangerous. They contain acid.
Under the right cicumstances, they can explode.


2. - if I put another charger on this battery do I have a possible chance
of
ruining that charger also?

Yes. I'd take the chance on doing nothing and hope the power does not go
out until I got a new battery. Does the generator have a pull start backup?




3. - if I place jumper cables from truck battery to this small generator I
assume that it might start. Just wondering if I have too much current from
my truck if any damage could be done to the generator start circuit.
Naaaa.........

Is the generator 12 volts also? Jumping it can also cause problem with the
alternator in the truck if you get a short. Safer way would be to remove
the battery or competely disconnect it from the truck's system, but that is
a hassle also.

"oreo123" wrote in message
...
The generator battery was dead. Tossed a car charger on it for trickle
charge and it cooked the charger. Yes the charger was good as it was
trickle charging a vette battery minutes earlier.

Removed battery and bought indoors. It was frozen solid. Its now thawed
out.

Now that questions...

1. - battery is around half full of liquid. If I put some water in it
will it have any chance of working if we charge it? The battery is around
2 years old and came with the 5k watt electric start generator. The
generator has been run maybe a total of 8 hours in two years.

Doubt it, sounds like the battery is shorted. You can take it to a car shop
and have a load test performed on it for free.

2. - if I put another charger on this battery do I have a possible chance
of ruining that charger also? Already gone through one charger today.

Yes.



3. - if I place jumper cables from truck battery to this small generator I
assume that it might start. Just wondering if I have too much current from
my truck if any damage could be done to the generator start circuit.
Naaaa.........

I would never jump start something without a battery and then take the
jumpers away or leave them on with the truck running either.

Get the battery tested is the first thing, if its bad that is your major
problem
Secondly, after you change the battery test the voltage to it when the
generator is running. It probably should be no more than 14 volts at any
time, If its more the alternator is cooking the cells in the battery.

Before anything, contact the manufacturer and see if they have any recalls
or updates for this problem.

Rich

And here comes this blizard in New England.

TIA.

Assuming that you are talking about a 12 volt battery on your generator,
your truck battery jump should be just fine.

IF the battery is shorted internally, AND ONLY TESTING WILL DETERMINE THIS
!! But if it is and he goes to jump it the battery in the truck could
explode in his face!

Get the battery tested! No normal battery would destroy a charger unless
there is something seriously wrong.

Go here if you don't believe me, DC is in many ways more potentially
dangerous than AC for the DIY.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=battery+exploding

http://www.rayvaughan.com/battery_safety.htm
this is a picutre of a battery connected to a generator and it exploded!
Read about all the foreign cars having batteries explode for no reason!
People tell stories of fathers being killed, burned, injured, blinded and
loosing their hearing. Now, you can do what I said, have the battery tested,
this MAY help find what caused it to fail. Then I suggest to contact the
people who sold it too you and get ahold of the factory of the generator and
get specific. I personally would take it to a good automotive electrical
repair shop, they are familiar with battery charging systems etc. If you
can't find one start with a good motor repair shop, they should have someone
who learned on DC.

If you want to take the advice of these yahoos who say don't worry, just
hook it up to your truck and see if it works and give it a try then go
ahead! It may work and it may blow up in your face if the battery has a
short.

Once again, battery chargers don't go bad from charging a battery.

Rich

If the dead battery ruined the charger, DO NOT connect it to your
truck, it may ruin it too.

If you HAVE to jump start the generator, disconnect the bad battery
first.

Mark

Why fool around with a 2 yr old battery that is frozen solid and highly
suspect. A small battery like this doesn't cost much and isn't worth
fooling around with. Just replace it.

A discharged battery freezes pretty close to 32F. Not sure the exact
numbers. The volt meter check is a good idea.

--

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com


"TURTLE" wrote in message
.. .


This is Turtle.

I think Stormy found a acron here but here is a test to run on the battery.
Put
a volt meter in D.C. mode on it and read the volts even with it half full of
water. If you get less than 11.5 volts. It is history. If you get 12 to 12.5
volts it is good battery. The 11.5 volts to the 12 volts is the gray area as
to
it being good or bad.

Like Stormy said if you can freeze a battery you can kill it but they have
to be
in Super cold weather to do this. I have been told that it will mess the
plates
up by freezing and shoving one plate into the other and short it. I live in
Louisiana and have never seen this.

Now one thing that you may want to check is you might have bought it from
Walmarts and they have 2 year no cost return of batterys that fail. Also
they
have Walmart super stores that stay open 24 hours aday 7 days a week and you
can
trade it anytime to get a new one.

TURTLE

I was onsite when a farmer blew up a battery. He had it on 12 volt blast (It
said boost on the charger, but the effect was blast).

He got some acid in his eyes. I grabbed hold of him and the both of us went
into the house. The next day the front of my green military style coat was
full of holes. Looked like I'd been machine gunned. The coat sits near my
computer. I can see it from where I sit.

well, at least we saved his eyes.

--

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com


"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
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"Bob_M" wrote in message

1. - battery is around half full of liquid. If I put some water in it
will
it have any chance of working if we charge it? The battery is around 2
years
old and came with the 5k watt electric start generator. The generator has
been run maybe a total of 8 hours in two years.


It may, but it can be risky. Batteries can be dangerous. They contain acid.
Under the right cicumstances, they can explode.