"Pat" wrote in message ...
Noticed this morning there is a little water under the water heater.
Also heard water running outside. Seems hot water running out the
overflow pipe on the outside of the house.

Turned off the water heater and the main faucet outside. the water
stopped running outside. With the heater off turned on main water, water
now runs out of overflow outside. Why?

I assume I need a new water heater. Called around to plumbing places
around here. They want $695 for a 40 gal LP WH and $150 to install.

HD and Lowes want $288 + tax for a 40 gal water heater. Lowes said it
was a Whirlpool didn't ask HD probably the same. My gas co. says if I
buy one from some place else, they will install for $150. My gas company
wants $595 for a 40 gal water heater plus $150 installation.

The WH I have now is a 30 gal Hedges installed by gas co. 12 years ago.

My question is does anyone know about Whirlpool WH. Hard water here in
Fla. 1 person house not a lot of hot water used.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Pat.

Stop right there. Change out the temperature and pressure valve first. Then move up to the new water heater if required. Since you have it off now would be a good time to flush it out.




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On 1/5/2005 8:08 PM US(ET), Pat took fingers to keys, and typed the
following:

Hard to flush it out and drain the WH , it is in an inside utility room.
I have never done that . And don't know how to flush it.



http://www.chilipepperapp.com/flush.htm

When I turned the main water on outside with the water heater off the
overflow still drips water. It doesn't run out but constantly drips.

If the WH wasn't on the way out would iI have a small amount of water
under the water heater .

Pat




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Bill

"Pat" wrote in message ...
Hard to flush it out and drain the WH , it is in an inside utility room.
I have never done that . And don't know how to flush it.

When I turned the main water on outside with the water heater off the
overflow still drips water. It doesn't run out but constantly drips.

If the WH wasn't on the way out would iI have a small amount of water
under the water heater .

Pat

This is Turtle.

You could have anything else wrong but the water could just coming from the Pressure / Temperature safety high leaking and leaking before it gets outside. Now SQLit just told you about saving a new hot water tank being installed but if you want a new one. Buy you one real quick for they may stop selling them anyday now.

Change the Pressure / Temperature Safety valve on the tank [ Home Cheap-0 $6.99 ] and you will probley not need a new hot water heater.

TURTLE

On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 01:44:48 -0500, (Pat) wrote:

Turtle:

I think hot water heaters will be around a long time. I am not in a
hurry to spend $900 for a new water heater and installation.

Maybe a GI bath for a day or two until i can find an honest plumber.

If I need a new one, is the one that HD sells the Whirlpool for $288 is
that a decent WH. I don't want crap either. The price I got from
plumbers to replace of $695 + $150 for installation + tax, I thought was
outrageous. I know prices have risen, but quality in products have gone
down. Isn't that quite high or am I wrong.


Pat

If all the plumbers seem to be around the same price, how do you think
thats high? You think they all called each other and did their own
price fixing? Labor is high everywhere anymore. It costs a small
fortune to keep a business afloat. If you want it done without your
intervention, that is a luxury and you pay someone to do it. If you
want a hack job done by Home Cheapo that hires the cheapest hack subs
out there, then call them and get what you think you arent paying for.
Would you have your local food mart prepare a formal sit down
Christmas dinner for you and 30 guests or would you hire a caterer?
I personally installed a "Lowes Best" water heater in my own home in
99 (Im a professional). It was Sunday and I couldnt get the warehouse
of the company I was working for to open up, Thus the Lowes purchase.
The water heater sucked. It would not heat water worth a crap. You are
forced to call the 800 number and deal with a woman that spoke broken
English. She was useless. Over the next few weeks they sent me a new
burner and gas valve. Same problem. They offered no more help and
would not take it back. Before the year was up, I yanked it, set it
out for garbage and installed a professional model, same 50 gallons.
Its worked fine till this day. I'll never buy another water heater
from the Home Cheap style stores.
Bubba

"Pat" wrote in message ...
Turtle:

I think hot water heaters will be around a long time. I am not in a
hurry to spend $900 for a new water heater and installation.

Maybe a GI bath for a day or two until i can find an honest plumber.

If I need a new one, is the one that HD sells the Whirlpool for $288 is
that a decent WH. I don't want crap either. The price I got from
plumbers to replace of $695 + $150 for installation + tax, I thought was
outrageous. I know prices have risen, but quality in products have gone
down. Isn't that quite high or am I wrong.


Pat

This is Turtle.

I could not say what high was at all for you have different parts of the country with a wide range of pay scales which it is just hard saying what norm is. The $150.00 to install it is in my words pretty cheap price and would say well worth him doing it for that. I live in a low cost of living area and the norm here is $200.00 + Tank and material. Now you buy your tank where you want and you go get it and sit it there and the Plumber here will put it in there. They don't care if you come back with a Yugo or a Roll Royce but it's still $200.00.

Now to the Whirlpool water heater or others. I have this ideal in my head now that all water heaters are border line trash and no matter what you write on the side of it. I will expect about every 10 to 15 years out of it and go get me another one like I would buying a washing machine and drier. The old ideal of buying a car to last 30 years went out the window with hot water tanks with it.

So Buy the cheapest thing that will fit in there and be happy if it last 15 years and cuss it if it don't and just replace. This sound very simple mined but it has come now days that long haul items now are become short haul items and treat them as so for the hot water tank has become a short haul item.

TURTLE