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I have a coffee table that people have been putting their feet on causing a
dull spot on the lacquer finish. What is the best way to get the spots out?


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elbow grease.

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I have a coffee table that people have been putting their feet on causing a
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I've tried scrubbing, but it seems like the smoothness of the finish has
just worn off. Is there some sort of wax that i can use to restore the
shine?



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i'd try just some plain ole furniture wax.

now if the actual FINISH is worn through thats another story...

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I've tried scrubbing, but it seems like the smoothness of the finish has
just worn off. Is there some sort of wax that i can use to restore the
shine?



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I have a coffee table that people have been putting their feet on causing
a dull spot on the lacquer finish. What is the best way to get the spots
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The best way would be to have the people that put their feet up on the
furniture refinish the table.

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dull spot on the lacquer finish. What is the best way to get the spots

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Try lacquer thinner on a rag in an inconspicuous spot to see if the
finish softens. If it does scuff sand the entire top to an even
dullness and spray lacquer over top. Wait several days for lacquer to
cure then rub it out to sheen desired. Waxes and polishes interfere
with repairing furniture. Book mark www.refinishwizard.com for
questions.

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I have a coffee table that people have been putting their feet on causing a
dull spot on the lacquer finish. What is the best way to get the spots out?


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Actually, a mixture of lacquer thinner and retarder is what you really
want to mist on.

Wax does not interfere with refinishing furniture. It is easily removed
and will not interfere with subsequent adhesion. Many furniture polishes
contain silicone which can interfere but there are many techniques to handle
this problem as well. It is best to avoid silicone containing polishes to
begin with but silicone contamination is not the "end of the world".

Good Luck.

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Try lacquer thinner on a rag in an inconspicuous spot to see if the
finish softens. If it does scuff sand the entire top to an even
dullness and spray lacquer over top. Wait several days for lacquer to
cure then rub it out to sheen desired. Waxes and polishes interfere
with repairing furniture. Book mark www.refinishwizard.com for
questions.

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:28:02 -0500, "nivek"
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I have a coffee table that people have been putting their feet on causing

a
dull spot on the lacquer finish. What is the best way to get the spots

out?




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How do you handle fish eyes?

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:43:08 -0400, "Baron"
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Actually, a mixture of lacquer thinner and retarder is what you really
want to mist on.

Wax does not interfere with refinishing furniture. It is easily removed
and will not interfere with subsequent adhesion. Many furniture polishes
contain silicone which can interfere but there are many techniques to handle
this problem as well. It is best to avoid silicone containing polishes to
begin with but silicone contamination is not the "end of the world".

Good Luck.

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Try lacquer thinner on a rag in an inconspicuous spot to see if the
finish softens. If it does scuff sand the entire top to an even
dullness and spray lacquer over top. Wait several days for lacquer to
cure then rub it out to sheen desired. Waxes and polishes interfere
with repairing furniture. Book mark www.refinishwizard.com for
questions.

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:28:02 -0500, "nivek"
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I have a coffee table that people have been putting their feet on causing

a
dull spot on the lacquer finish. What is the best way to get the spots

out?




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For those that don't know, "fisheyes" are what happens when a finish,
typically lacquer, pulls away from the surface leaving a dry spot, sometimes
with a drop of finish remaining in the middle of the "hole". They are
caused by silicone oil contamination. The silicone interferes with the
surface tension of the system and the finish pulls away from it.

When I refinish a piece of furniture, I always assume there is some
silicone contamination. The most popular spray waxes contain silicone. The
first thing I do, at least after stripping a piece, is to make sure I give
the surface a good washing with a solution of toluene, acetone, and alcohol.
This is really to remove the remains of the stripper but it also helps to
remove residual silicone oil. If I think the contamination is really bad, I
may wash it down with a little ammonia. I use a lot of fresh rags so I
don't just spread any silicone contamination around.
After cleaning, I seal the surface with a sprayed coat of dewaxed
shellac. I don't use an exotic spray system, just a Preval spray can. By
mixing my own, I can choose the type - garnet, amber, white, etc. I can
even add a little Transtint to make it exactly the way I want. I have not
tried spraying Zinsser's Seal-Coat but it should work pretty well. I spray
rather than brush since I have found that brushing stirs up the silicone
rather than sealing it in. I continue with my finishing schedule. I am on
the lookout for fisheyes and if I see any, I immediately wipe off the still
wet finish. If another sealing with sprayed shellac does not do the trick,
I will add a little silicone oil to the finish. One brand is "Smoothie" but
there are many others and they all work as well as each other. The purpose
of adding a tiny bit of silicone oil to the finish is to make the surface
tensions of the surface and finish the same so they will remain in contact.
I don't like using these fisheye removers since too much will make the
finish
soft and less glossy. They also tends to leave residual amounts on brushes.
I've never had an occurrence, at least not yet, that I couldn't handle
by
these methods.

Good Luck

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Have read a couple of very light spray coats of XXX, maybe dewaxed
shellac, works when the is SOME fisheye left. Works as barrier/sealer
coat. Experiences?

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For those that don't know, "fisheyes" are what happens when a finish,
typically lacquer, pulls away from the surface leaving a dry spot, sometimes
with a drop of finish remaining in the middle of the "hole". They are
caused by silicone oil contamination. The silicone interferes with the
surface tension of the system and the finish pulls away from it.

When I refinish a piece of furniture, I always assume there is some
silicone contamination. The most popular spray waxes contain silicone. The
first thing I do, at least after stripping a piece, is to make sure I give
the surface a good washing with a solution of toluene, acetone, and alcohol.
This is really to remove the remains of the stripper but it also helps to
remove residual silicone oil. If I think the contamination is really bad, I
may wash it down with a little ammonia. I use a lot of fresh rags so I
don't just spread any silicone contamination around.
After cleaning, I seal the surface with a sprayed coat of dewaxed
shellac. I don't use an exotic spray system, just a Preval spray can. By
mixing my own, I can choose the type - garnet, amber, white, etc. I can
even add a little Transtint to make it exactly the way I want. I have not
tried spraying Zinsser's Seal-Coat but it should work pretty well. I spray
rather than brush since I have found that brushing stirs up the silicone
rather than sealing it in. I continue with my finishing schedule. I am on
the lookout for fisheyes and if I see any, I immediately wipe off the still
wet finish. If another sealing with sprayed shellac does not do the trick,
I will add a little silicone oil to the finish. One brand is "Smoothie" but
there are many others and they all work as well as each other. The purpose
of adding a tiny bit of silicone oil to the finish is to make the surface
tensions of the surface and finish the same so they will remain in contact.
I don't like using these fisheye removers since too much will make the
finish
soft and less glossy. They also tends to leave residual amounts on brushes.
I've never had an occurrence, at least not yet, that I couldn't handle
by
these methods.

Good Luck

To contact directly, remove both NGs from address.

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Just alcohol alone won't do it. It can reamalgamate a shellac finish
and works okay for lacquer. Lacquer thinner works better when
reamalgamating lacquer. Dewaxed shellac works very well to seal in silicone
as I stated previously. It is important to spray the shellac so you don't
stir it to the top of the film.

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Have read a couple of very light spray coats of XXX, maybe dewaxed
shellac, works when the is SOME fisheye left. Works as barrier/sealer
coat. Experiences?



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