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fasthands wrote:
Sure you can hang a bag. Just make sure it isn't too heavy and it is secured. Here is a video clip of Ross Enamait, M.S., CFT hitting the bag in his basement. http://www.rossboxing.com/heavybagtraining.wmv He's definitely whipping that bag's ass. I've got a 100 lb bag hanging off a joist in my garage and it hurts my arms to really pound it. Of course, I've got some hardware in them so I guess I can't have everything. Getting back to topic: I just drilled a small hole through the joist and hung the bag on a bolt with great big fender washers to prevent the bolt from eating the joist. It works fine. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN http://www.mortimerschnerd.com |
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![]() "Airkings" wrote Is it advisable to attach a heavy bag to a basement floor joist and use it for training? Will the vibrations cause damage? What has people's experience been? Thanks! The floor handles my wife, so I don't see the difference between walking on the floor or hanging from the floor's joist.... |
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"Red Neckerson" wrote in message news:kw98d.4122$eq1.934@trnddc08...
"Airkings" wrote Is it advisable to attach a heavy bag to a basement floor joist and use it for training? Will the vibrations cause damage? What has people's experience been? Thanks! Based on feedback from people at my martial art's club and from a martial arts store owner's personal opinion: 1) Over time you can damage the floor joist and/or the flooring above the heavy bag. The 100 lbs heavy bag will swing from side to side, creating a swinging torsion on the floor joist from which it hangs, lifting/loosening the subfloor which over time can damage the flooring above it. For example if the heavy bag is hanging in the basement underneath the kitchen, and the kitchen has ceramic tiles, these may crack. If its hardwood, the hardwood may become squeaky over time. This is what a (very honest) martial arts store owner warned me when I was shopping in his store for a heavy bag. 2) I've also had some people at my martial arts club tell me that they've damaged their floor joist with their heavy bag, twisting its shape (i.e. its now curved). 3) And everybody tells me that its loud. People in your house (most notably those in the room directly above) will hear it unless you punch and kick like a sissy ![]() That being said, any punching bag is loud, including the free standing ones like the Wave Masters. You can try hanging it from the metal I-beam (if its exposed in the basement) which I've heard eliminates most of the problems listed above when you hang it against a floor joist. However hanging it from there will be louder than from a wooden floor joist. Hanging it in a garage is a good alternative, as is getting a hanging cage for a heavy bag (literally a metal frame from which you hang the bag). The main problem with the cage is that they are tall and you need a basement with at least a 8' ceiling clearance. Some versions also require you weighting the cage down with dumbbell plates so that it doesn't tip over or move around. There is a version by Century called the CornerMan that sits in a corner and doesn't require weights to hold it down however the legs extend 9' in both directions from the corner. Its also designed for a 70 lbs bag. The hanging cages are usually around $200 - $300, but I've seen some professional models sell for $1,500. The professional models are usually designed to provide you with a less restrictive access to the heavy bag VS the cheaper ones (i.e. you have more freedom around the bag). You'll know what I mean if you see/try both models. Its possible to get brackets that mount directly against the studs in a wall, and hang the heavy bag from this, but I've heard that these are worse than hanging the bag from the ceiling. Especially since the bag will always be swinging and hitting the wall possibly creating large indentations in the drywall (again, unless you punch like a sissy ![]() |
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How long does your wife hang from the floor? and how hard to hit her?
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com "Red Neckerson" wrote in message news:kw98d.4122$eq1.934@trnddc08... The floor handles my wife, so I don't see the difference between walking on the floor or hanging from the floor's joist.... |
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"Airkings" wrote:
Is it advisable to attach a heavy bag to a basement floor joist and use it for training? Will the vibrations cause damage? What has people's experience been? Thanks! Depends on the house and the beam, but in general I've found the rattle the whole place. Pick up a free standing bag frame. There were some good 2-station frames for about $125 used on ebay. --Don-- The beatings will continue until morale improves. |
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"Airkings" wrote:
Is it advisable to attach a heavy bag to a basement floor joist and use it for training? Will the vibrations cause damage? What has people's experience been? Thanks! I just hang mine with chains from the steel support beam, as you mentioned. I prefer a free-swinging bag that isn't tied down and is allowed to sway. Sure, you will get some vibration from the bag swaying, but as long as your support chains aren't connected to anything that could be damaged, alls you'll get out of whacking this dude is some noise upstairs :-). I'm not as wild about bag frames as some others here. although that is another solution. JS |
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![]() Is it advisable to attach a heavy bag to a basement floor joist and use it for training? Will the vibrations cause damage? What has people's experience been? Thanks! Was it me, I'd run a laminated beam of 2 2x4s across 6 or so joists, Attaching it at each joist with a metal hanger, and put solid blocking between the joists. |
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Was it me, I'd run a laminated beam of 2 2x4s across 6 or so joists, Attaching it at each joist with a metal hanger, and put solid blocking between the joists. Bungee cords- 3 to 1 weight ratio. Screw in a half-dozen up-eyes, run your cords through; work your ass off. Chas |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote:
What kind of training do you do? We start our classes decoding divine script with the aid of magic rocks. How about you? --Don-- The beatings will continue until morale improves. |
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"Don Wagner" wrote
What kind of training do you do? We start our classes decoding divine script with the aid of magic rocks. How about you? Talkin' to the day-glo lizard about where he hid me Lucky Charms. Chas |
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"Chas" wrote:
"Don Wagner" wrote What kind of training do you do? We start our classes decoding divine script with the aid of magic rocks. How about you? Talkin' to the day-glo lizard about where he hid me Lucky Charms. Chas I've ended training sessions like that before.... ;-) --Don-- The beatings will continue until morale improves. |
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![]() "Don Wagner" wrote in message ... "Chas" wrote: "Don Wagner" wrote What kind of training do you do? We start our classes decoding divine script with the aid of magic rocks. How about you? Talkin' to the day-glo lizard about where he hid me Lucky Charms. Chas I've ended training sessions like that before.... ;-) --Don-- The beatings will continue until morale improves. I have to come train where you do. Sounds like my kind of place. For the record I learnt everything I needed to know about the Mormon religon watching Southpark. It is almost as crazy as the whole immaculate conception thing. Tell me that Mary and Joseph, who were married, never had sex and then gave birth to a son. Even 2000 years ago if they didn't have pre-martial sex the first thing when you got married was to have sex until you dropped. Either that or Joseph must of had calluses like a brickie from tugging himself. Fraser |
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"Fraser Johnston" wrote
.....For the record I learnt everything I needed to know about the Mormon religon watching Southpark. They are the craziest white people on the face of the earth. The only thing you can hope for is that they don't come after *you*. I married into a fundamentalist, polygamous family (they have some of the most beautiful women in the world), and have been around Saints much of my life. After dealing with Mormons, the Taliban is no trouble at all. Chas |
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"Fraser Johnston" wrote:
I have to come train where you do. Sounds like my kind of place. You'd have fun. It's very laidback and casual but the stickfighting is pretty intense. For the record I learnt everything I needed to know about the Mormon religon watching Southpark. ;-) It's funny, but after seeing the SP episode I looked into the Mormons again (did a comparitive religion assignment in high school but I was pretty wasted at the time). SP was pretty much on the money for the whole thing. From the Mormons I've met they are fairly normal folks, but 2nd hand stories make them out to be crazier then ****house rats. --Don-- The beatings will continue until morale improves. |
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![]() Fraser Johnston wrote: conception thing. Tell me that Mary and Joseph, who were married, never had sex and then gave birth to a son. Even 2000 years ago if they didn't have You don't pay attention much, do you? She was supposed to have got pregnant while they were engaged, but not yet married. Yes, I know there are simpler explanations than 'God did it', but you could at least get the mythology you're rejecting correct. -- Rob. http://www.mis.coventry.ac.uk/~mtx014/ |
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![]() "Don Wagner" wrote in message ... "Stormin Mormon" wrote: What kind of training do you do? We start our classes decoding divine script with the aid of magic rocks. How about you? --Don-- The beatings will continue until morale improves. Same with us. But we read ours out of a hat. Fraser |
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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
. com... fasthands wrote: Sure you can hang a bag. Just make sure it isn't too heavy and it is secured. Here is a video clip of Ross Enamait, M.S., CFT hitting the bag in his basement. http://www.rossboxing.com/heavybagtraining.wmv He's definitely whipping that bag's ass. I've got a 100 lb bag hanging off a joist in my garage and it hurts my arms to really pound it. Of course, I've got some hardware in them so I guess I can't have everything. Getting back to topic: I just drilled a small hole through the joist and hung the bag on a bolt with great big fender washers to prevent the bolt from eating the joist. It works fine. The best way to attach it is to use 3 attachment points. This effectively lowers the pivot point and the bag doesn't swing as much. |
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"John" wrote in message ...
"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message . com... fasthands wrote: Sure you can hang a bag. Just make sure it isn't too heavy and it is secured. Here is a video clip of Ross Enamait, M.S., CFT hitting the bag in his basement. http://www.rossboxing.com/heavybagtraining.wmv He's definitely whipping that bag's ass. I've got a 100 lb bag hanging off a joist in my garage and it hurts my arms to really pound it. Of course, I've got some hardware in them so I guess I can't have everything. Getting back to topic: I just drilled a small hole through the joist and hung the bag on a bolt with great big fender washers to prevent the bolt from eating the joist. It works fine. The best way to attach it is to use 3 attachment points. This effectively lowers the pivot point and the bag doesn't swing as much. This might also help with the stress on the structure, and maybe the rattling: http://www.ringside.com/store/prodin...=105&mitem=136 (or http://tinyurl.com/4rto8) if that link gets broken. Never tried these so don't know if it will just bob up and down or not, esp. with a 100-150 lb bag. |
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Try doing pulling excersizes with resistant bands after your bagwork
Pressure is good for muscles Sound like you have a bit to much -- For full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...nt-556915-.htm |
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On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 9:32:14 AM UTC-4, LARY wrote:
Try doing pulling excersizes with resistant bands after your bagwork Pressure is good for muscles Sound like you have a bit to much -- For full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...nt-556915-.htm Necro thread, this one is 17 years old. However I have the solution for the OP, or if necessary his kids or grandkids. Don't hang a bag in the basement. Pick a tree in the back yard with a trunk somewhere around 4 inches in diameter. Drive around your neighborhood on trash pickup night and look for a discarded carpet. Cut a piece of carpet about 6 feet wide and wrap it around around the trunk until it is as thick as the bag you wanted. Now you can work out all you want on an indestructible heavy bag. |
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