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Pol: Bush people rigging election in Florida, again
President Jimmy Carter had the following to say (CNN):
Carter, citing the experience of his Carter Center in monitoring international elections, said "some basic international requirements for a fair election are missing in Florida." Most significant, he said, were requirements that a nonpartisan electoral commission or official organize and conduct the electoral process and that voting procedures be uniform for all citizens. He said Florida's top election official in 2000, Secretary of State Katherine Harris, was "highly partisan" and that Harris' successor, Glenda Hood, has shown "the same strong bias." He said Gov. Jeb Bush, the president's brother, had done little to "correct these departures from principles of fair and equal treatment." http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html |
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Let's just hope that that democratic Florida supreme court doesn't break
Florida law once again and hand the election to Bush via a Supreme Court Decision. Ohhhh! Had you forgotten that part?!?! "Florida Patriot" wrote in message om... President Jimmy Carter had the following to say (CNN): Carter, citing the experience of his Carter Center in monitoring international elections, said "some basic international requirements for a fair election are missing in Florida." Most significant, he said, were requirements that a nonpartisan electoral commission or official organize and conduct the electoral process and that voting procedures be uniform for all citizens. He said Florida's top election official in 2000, Secretary of State Katherine Harris, was "highly partisan" and that Harris' successor, Glenda Hood, has shown "the same strong bias." He said Gov. Jeb Bush, the president's brother, had done little to "correct these departures from principles of fair and equal treatment." http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html |
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curmudgeon wrote:
Let's just hope that that democratic Florida supreme court doesn't break Florida law once again and hand the election to Bush via a Supreme Court Decision. Ohhhh! Had you forgotten that part?!?! "Florida Patriot" wrote in message om... President Jimmy Carter had the following to say (CNN): Carter, citing the experience of his Carter Center in monitoring international elections, said "some basic international requirements for a fair election are missing in Florida." Most significant, he said, were requirements that a nonpartisan electoral commission or official organize and conduct the electoral process and that voting procedures be uniform for all citizens. He said Florida's top election official in 2000, Secretary of State Katherine Harris, was "highly partisan" and that Harris' successor, Glenda Hood, has shown "the same strong bias." He said Gov. Jeb Bush, the president's brother, had done little to "correct these departures from principles of fair and equal treatment." http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html So is President Carter suggesting that the Florida state constitution needs to be rewritten by the feds? Seriously. The Secretary of State is an elected position, and elected positions are are partisan and political. I'm not sure the Governor had much descretion in the handling of the election -- it was probably an embarrassing position to be in. Bob |
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zxcvbob wrote:
= curmudgeon wrote: Let's just hope that that democratic Florida supreme court doesn't br= eak Florida law once again and hand the election to Bush via a Supreme Co= urt Decision. Ohhhh! Had you forgotten that part?!?! "Florida Patriot" wrote in message om... President Jimmy Carter had the following to say (CNN): Carter, citing the experience of his Carter Center in monitoring international elections, said "some basic international requirements for a fair election are missing in Florida." Most significant, he said, were requirements that a nonpartisan electoral commission or official organize and conduct the electoral process and that voting procedures be uniform for all citizens. He said Florida's top election official in 2000, Secretary of State Katherine Harris, was "highly partisan" and that Harris' successor, Glenda Hood, has shown "the same strong bias." He said Gov. Jeb Bush, the president's brother, had done little to "correct these departures from principles of fair and equal treatment." http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.htm= l = So is President Carter suggesting that the Florida state constitution needs to be rewritten by the feds? Seriously. The Secretary of State is an elected position, and elected positions ar= e are partisan and political. I'm not sure the Governor had much descretion in the handling of the election -- it was probably an embarrassing position to be in. = Bob The Florida Secretary of State ( Glenda E. Hood ) was APPOINTED by Gov. Jeb Bush. Check it out at: http://www.dos.state.fl.us/oss/background.html Here's an excerpt: "Governor Jeb Bush appointed Orlando Mayor Glenda Hood as Secretary of State effective February 2003. She leads the Department of State as it transitions from an elected constitutional office to an appointed Governor=92s agency. ..." |
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The Florida Secretary of State ( Glenda E. Hood ) was APPOINTED by Gov.
Jeb Bush. Katherine Harris was elected, the office changed in 2002. I know it is fun to blame her for the various things that were done because she was the public face on the debacle but she was going straight from the book and following the rulings of the Fla Supreme court. A classic case of shooting the messenger. If you really like the idea that the election was rigged why not blame the people who designed the butterfly ballot |
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"Greg" wrote in message ... The Florida Secretary of State ( Glenda E. Hood ) was APPOINTED by Gov. Jeb Bush. Katherine Harris was elected, the office changed in 2002. I know it is fun to blame her for the various things that were done because she was the public face on the debacle but she was going straight from the book and following the rulings of the Fla Supreme court. A classic case of shooting the messenger. If you really like the idea that the election was rigged why not blame the people who designed the butterfly ballot because the butterfly ballot issue is insignificant compared to the number of registered voters that were denied their right to vote at all. randy |
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xrongor wrote:
"Greg" wrote in message ... The Florida Secretary of State ( Glenda E. Hood ) was APPOINTED by Gov. Jeb Bush. Katherine Harris was elected, the office changed in 2002. I know it is fun to blame her for the various things that were done because she was the public face on the debacle but she was going straight from the book and following the rulings of the Fla Supreme court. A classic case of shooting the messenger. If you really like the idea that the election was rigged why not blame the people who designed the butterfly ballot because the butterfly ballot issue is insignificant compared to the number of registered voters that were denied their right to vote at all. randy You mean like the absentee ballots of the military? http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/...itary.ballots/ |
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"willshak" wrote in message ... xrongor wrote: "Greg" wrote in message ... The Florida Secretary of State ( Glenda E. Hood ) was APPOINTED by Gov. Jeb Bush. Katherine Harris was elected, the office changed in 2002. I know it is fun to blame her for the various things that were done because she was the public face on the debacle but she was going straight from the book and following the rulings of the Fla Supreme court. A classic case of shooting the messenger. If you really like the idea that the election was rigged why not blame the people who designed the butterfly ballot because the butterfly ballot issue is insignificant compared to the number of registered voters that were denied their right to vote at all. randy You mean like the absentee ballots of the military? http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/...itary.ballots/ ya thats what i meant. nobody else was denied their right to vote. only military people. randy |
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"Florida Patriot" wrote President Jimmy Carter had the following to say (CNN): Carter, citing the experience of his Carter Center in monitoring international elections, said "some basic international requirements for a fair election are missing in Florida." SNIP Even the Peanut Man thinks Kerry doesn't stand a chance in this election so he starts stirring up some sh*t..... |
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And the butterfly ballot was designed by an election board official, who
happened to be a member of the Democratic party. "Greg" wrote in message ... The Florida Secretary of State ( Glenda E. Hood ) was APPOINTED by Gov. Jeb Bush. Katherine Harris was elected, the office changed in 2002. I know it is fun to blame her for the various things that were done because she was the public face on the debacle but she was going straight from the book and following the rulings of the Fla Supreme court. A classic case of shooting the messenger. If you really like the idea that the election was rigged why not blame the people who designed the butterfly ballot |
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I can't believe anybody gives a hoot about what is said by one of the worst
presidents in this century. "Red Neckerson" wrote in message news:9Pa6d.7571$dt2.6860@trnddc09... "Florida Patriot" wrote President Jimmy Carter had the following to say (CNN): Carter, citing the experience of his Carter Center in monitoring international elections, said "some basic international requirements for a fair election are missing in Florida." SNIP Even the Peanut Man thinks Kerry doesn't stand a chance in this election so he starts stirring up some sh*t..... |
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bill a wrote:
I can't believe anybody gives a hoot about what is said by one of the worst presidents in this century. He has been a great ex-president though. He should stay out of politics and not ruin his "elder statesman" reputation. If ihe gets all political, folks will start remembering how bad he sucked as The Prez. Bob |
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the butterfly ballot is a dead issue and only repubs keep beating that dead
horse as if anyone cares any more... the butterfly ballots are not what allowed bush to steal the election. it goes well beyond that. randy "bill a" wrote in message ... And the butterfly ballot was designed by an election board official, who happened to be a member of the Democratic party. "Greg" wrote in message ... The Florida Secretary of State ( Glenda E. Hood ) was APPOINTED by Gov. Jeb Bush. Katherine Harris was elected, the office changed in 2002. I know it is fun to blame her for the various things that were done because she was the public face on the debacle but she was going straight from the book and following the rulings of the Fla Supreme court. A classic case of shooting the messenger. If you really like the idea that the election was rigged why not blame the people who designed the butterfly ballot |
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This whole thing is pretty much a dead horse.
The 2000 election is almost 4 years ago. The close race is probably not going to be Florida this time anyway. As long as people are eating government food and watching TV on a FEMA generator they will probably vote for the incumbant. Bush is polling about 6 points ahead in Florida. Go **** with Pennsylvania for a while. |
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In article , "xrongor" wrote:
the butterfly ballot is a dead issue and only repubs keep beating that dead horse as if anyone cares any more... the butterfly ballots are not what allowed bush to steal the election. it goes well beyond that. Time for a reality check... the recounts showed, *repeatedly*, that Bush won the election. |
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A count, a recount, and another recount had nothing to do with it even
though Bush one in every instance. Yes, it was the Supreme Court that rigged it!!! LOL at the Moron. "curmudgeon" wrote in message ... Let's just hope that that democratic Florida supreme court doesn't break Florida law once again and hand the election to Bush via a Supreme Court Decision. Ohhhh! Had you forgotten that part?!?! "Florida Patriot" wrote in message om... President Jimmy Carter had the following to say (CNN): Carter, citing the experience of his Carter Center in monitoring international elections, said "some basic international requirements for a fair election are missing in Florida." Most significant, he said, were requirements that a nonpartisan electoral commission or official organize and conduct the electoral process and that voting procedures be uniform for all citizens. He said Florida's top election official in 2000, Secretary of State Katherine Harris, was "highly partisan" and that Harris' successor, Glenda Hood, has shown "the same strong bias." He said Gov. Jeb Bush, the president's brother, had done little to "correct these departures from principles of fair and equal treatment." http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html |
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"Doug Miller" wrote in message m... In article , "xrongor" wrote: the butterfly ballot is a dead issue and only repubs keep beating that dead horse as if anyone cares any more... the butterfly ballots are not what allowed bush to steal the election. it goes well beyond that. Time for a reality check... the recounts showed, *repeatedly*, that Bush won the election. reality check. your vote had to be counted the first time to be re-counted. if your rights were taken away and you didnt get to vote, you were neither counted nor recounted. randy |
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if your rights were taken away and you didnt get to vote
If the "felons" had responded to the letters they were sent and fixed the error they would have been able to vote. The only other group that were complaining were people who showed up at the wrong precinct. In a ****load of cases the Leon county voters were out of state A&M students who never changed their registration TO FLORIDA or were not even registered in their home state! A lot of urban legends were debunked in the last 4 years when they actually tried to document these cases and prosecute someone. |
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In article , "xrongor" wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message om... In article , "xrongor" wrote: the butterfly ballot is a dead issue and only repubs keep beating that dead horse as if anyone cares any more... the butterfly ballots are not what allowed bush to steal the election. it goes well beyond that. Time for a reality check... the recounts showed, *repeatedly*, that Bush won the election. reality check. your vote had to be counted the first time to be re-counted. if your rights were taken away and you didnt get to vote, you were neither counted nor recounted. True enough, but not relevant. The ones denied the right to vote were, in the main, Bush supporters in the military who were attempting to vote absentee. Had those votes been counted, Bush's winning margin would have been that much larger. What's your point? |
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because the butterfly ballot issue is insignificant compared to the number of registered voters that were denied their right to vote at all. randy What a dreamer. There margin in Florida was 537 votes. Pat Buchanan got thousands of votes that even he did no expect and they almost all came from Palm Beach county courtesy of the butterfly ballot. That ballot, by the way, was in violation of the regulations for ballot design that required names to only appear on one side of the ballots used for punch card voting and not on facing pages. Also some ballots were printed with the printing misregistered that further led to misplaced votes. As far as the claim that the errors were made by old gray heads, those that voted for Buchanan by accident were still smarter than those who voted for Bush on purpose. Charlie |
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"Doug Miller" wrote in message news In article , "xrongor" wrote: "Doug Miller" wrote in message . com... In article , "xrongor" wrote: the butterfly ballot is a dead issue and only repubs keep beating that dead horse as if anyone cares any more... the butterfly ballots are not what allowed bush to steal the election. it goes well beyond that. Time for a reality check... the recounts showed, *repeatedly*, that Bush won the election. reality check. your vote had to be counted the first time to be re-counted. if your rights were taken away and you didnt get to vote, you were neither counted nor recounted. True enough, but not relevant. The ones denied the right to vote were, in the main, Bush supporters in the military who were attempting to vote absentee. Had those votes been counted, Bush's winning margin would have been that much larger. What's your point? my point is your spin is not reality. randy |
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In article , "xrongor" wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message news In article , "xrongor" wrote: "Doug Miller" wrote in message .com... In article , "xrongor" wrote: the butterfly ballot is a dead issue and only repubs keep beating that dead horse as if anyone cares any more... the butterfly ballots are not what allowed bush to steal the election. it goes well beyond that. Time for a reality check... the recounts showed, *repeatedly*, that Bush won the election. reality check. your vote had to be counted the first time to be re-counted. if your rights were taken away and you didnt get to vote, you were neither counted nor recounted. True enough, but not relevant. The ones denied the right to vote were, in the main, Bush supporters in the military who were attempting to vote absentee. Had those votes been counted, Bush's winning margin would have been that much larger. What's your point? my point is your spin is not reality. Reality is that the only large group of people disenfranchised in Florida were those members of the military who attempted to vote absentee. The charges of widespread disenfranchisement of African-Americans have been shown to be lies. |
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Reality is that the only large group of people disenfranchised in Florida were those members of the military who attempted to vote absentee. The charges of widespread disenfranchisement of African-Americans have been shown to be lies. You sure you know what you're talking about? I know a lot of blacks had their polling places changed without getting notification. One of these so-called polling places was a small building behind a big building and there was no signage in the area showing where it was. These people could not find the place and went back to their old polling places only to be turned away. Then there's the polling place at the Water Dept. on Jog Road in Boynton Beach, a heavy, heavy Democratic area. The electric gates to the entrance of the polling place 'accidentally' closed at approximately 7PM and no one was able to find someone to open them. They remained closed till 9:05 when mystically someone came out of the building and was able to open the gates. However, a line of voters formed for two hours while the gates were closed and they were refused admission to vote as the polls were closed at 9PM. I could go on and on with all the inequities but the above two I know for a fact. |
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"Doug Miller" wrote in message ... In article , "xrongor" wrote: "Doug Miller" wrote in message news In article , "xrongor" wrote: "Doug Miller" wrote in message y.com... In article , "xrongor" wrote: the butterfly ballot is a dead issue and only repubs keep beating that dead horse as if anyone cares any more... the butterfly ballots are not what allowed bush to steal the election. it goes well beyond that. Time for a reality check... the recounts showed, *repeatedly*, that Bush won the election. reality check. your vote had to be counted the first time to be re-counted. if your rights were taken away and you didnt get to vote, you were neither counted nor recounted. True enough, but not relevant. The ones denied the right to vote were, in the main, Bush supporters in the military who were attempting to vote absentee. Had those votes been counted, Bush's winning margin would have been that much larger. What's your point? my point is your spin is not reality. Reality is that the only large group of people disenfranchised in Florida were those members of the military who attempted to vote absentee. The charges of widespread disenfranchisement of African-Americans have been shown to be lies. bull****. |
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..... are u from binghamton, ny
if so email me at jbsimon at stny dot rr dot com Doug Miller wrote: In article , "xrongor" wrote: "Doug Miller" wrote in message news In article , "xrongor" wrote: "Doug Miller" wrote in message .com... In article , "xrongor" wrote: the butterfly ballot is a dead issue and only repubs keep beating that dead horse as if anyone cares any more... the butterfly ballots are not what allowed bush to steal the election. it goes well beyond that. Time for a reality check... the recounts showed, *repeatedly*, that Bush won the election. reality check. your vote had to be counted the first time to be re-counted. if your rights were taken away and you didnt get to vote, you were neither counted nor recounted. True enough, but not relevant. The ones denied the right to vote were, in the main, Bush supporters in the military who were attempting to vote absentee. Had those votes been counted, Bush's winning margin would have been that much larger. What's your point? my point is your spin is not reality. Reality is that the only large group of people disenfranchised in Florida were those members of the military who attempted to vote absentee. The charges of widespread disenfranchisement of African-Americans have been shown to be lies. |
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Why didn't you report this travesty to the US Justice Dept *and* Marion
Berry's US Commission on Civil Rights? As much as these two agencies tried, neither of them found a *single* instance of *any* willful attempt to deny anyone their vote. Your reports, if verified, would have been the only real cases of anyone denying anyone their right to vote. Whatsmore, of the 25 counties that had problems with the ballots, 24 were in solid Democratic strongholds run by Democrats who chose the type of ballot used locally and supervised their county elections. You sure you know what you're talking about? I know a lot of blacks had their polling places changed without getting notification. One of these so-called polling places was a small building behind a big building and there was no signage in the area showing where it was. These people could not find the place and went back to their old polling places only to be turned away. Then there's the polling place at the Water Dept. on Jog Road in Boynton Beach, a heavy, heavy Democratic area. The electric gates to the entrance of the polling place 'accidentally' closed at approximately 7PM and no one was able to find someone to open them. They remained closed till 9:05 when mystically someone came out of the building and was able to open the gates. However, a line of voters formed for two hours while the gates were closed and they were refused admission to vote as the polls were closed at 9PM. I could go on and on with all the inequities but the above two I know for a fact. -- Paul R ------------------------------- For email reply, please remove 195 |
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In article , "xrongor" wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message m... In article , "xrongor" wrote: "Doug Miller" wrote in message news In article , "xrongor" wrote: "Doug Miller" wrote in message gy.com... In article , "xrongor" wrote: the butterfly ballot is a dead issue and only repubs keep beating that dead horse as if anyone cares any more... the butterfly ballots are not what allowed bush to steal the election. it goes well beyond that. Time for a reality check... the recounts showed, *repeatedly*, that Bush won the election. reality check. your vote had to be counted the first time to be re-counted. if your rights were taken away and you didnt get to vote, you were neither counted nor recounted. True enough, but not relevant. The ones denied the right to vote were, in the main, Bush supporters in the military who were attempting to vote absentee. Had those votes been counted, Bush's winning margin would have been that much larger. What's your point? my point is your spin is not reality. Reality is that the only large group of people disenfranchised in Florida were those members of the military who attempted to vote absentee. The charges of widespread disenfranchisement of African-Americans have been shown to be lies. bull****. NOT ONE verifiable instance of deliberate efforts to deny any eligible voter the right to vote was ever found. If you have information to the contrary, publish it. |
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In article , dada wrote:
..... are u from binghamton, ny Nope, not me. Must be a different guy. |
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the butterfly ballot is a dead issue and only repubs keep beating that dead horse as if anyone cares any more... the butterfly ballots are not what allowed bush to steal the election. it goes well beyond that. Time for a reality check... the recounts showed, *repeatedly*, that Bush won the election. reality check. your vote had to be counted the first time to be re-counted. if your rights were taken away and you didnt get to vote, you were neither counted nor recounted. True enough, but not relevant. The ones denied the right to vote were, in the main, Bush supporters in the military who were attempting to vote absentee. Had those votes been counted, Bush's winning margin would have been that much larger. What's your point? my point is your spin is not reality. Reality is that the only large group of people disenfranchised in Florida were those members of the military who attempted to vote absentee. The charges of widespread disenfranchisement of African-Americans have been shown to be lies. bull****. NOT ONE verifiable instance of deliberate efforts to deny any eligible voter the right to vote was ever found. If you have information to the contrary, publish it. what, so we can debate the definition of the word 'deliberate'? no thanks. we've danced before. randy |
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Randy:
Please provide us with the name of just ONE INDIVIDUAL who was denied the right to vote. Please OMIT those idiot nuts who couldn't read or push a pin through a proper hole in a piece of paper. Once more......... just one name of a person who was denied the right to vote, and whether or not that person took appropriate legal action, and where did the litigation take place?? Thanks !! --James-- ----------------------------- because the butterfly ballot issue is insignificant compared to the number of registered voters that were denied their right to vote at all. randy |
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"bill a" in
: I can't believe anybody gives a hoot about what is said by one of the worst presidents in this century. afaik, only clinton and bush jr have been pres of USA in this (nominal) century. americanpresidency.org: 2001 Transition .... 2001 Transition: William J. Clinton to George W. Bush Traditional Addresses: Clinton's Farewell Address (1-18) Bush's Inaugural Address (1-20). ... http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/site/...sition2001.php if you'r referring to presidents of the 20th centruy, then most people would nominate nixon as the most damaging. however, here's some more standard wisdom: Warren G. Harding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia... Historians routinely categorize Harding as the worst President in US History, due to the incredibly corrupt nature of his Administration. ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_G._Harding Dummies::Evaluating US Presidents... Presidents Harding and Grant destroyed their presidencies with inept, corrupt appointments, and their rankings reflect this. Appointing ... http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/Dumm...e/id-1219.html |
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he electric gates to the entrance of
the polling place 'accidentally' closed at approximately 7PM 7 PM is the state legislated poll closing time. So what? The Democrats are only ****ed that they couldn't change the law in mid election. That was the whole basis for the debacle. |
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In article , "xrongor" wrote:
NOT ONE verifiable instance of deliberate efforts to deny any eligible voter the right to vote was ever found. If you have information to the contrary, publish it. what, so we can debate the definition of the word 'deliberate'? no thanks. we've danced before. Evasion noted. |
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In article , "James Nipper" wrote:
Randy: Please provide us with the name of just ONE INDIVIDUAL who was denied the right to vote. He can't. He's just parroting Terry McAwful's talking points. |
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James Nipper wrote:
Randy: Please provide us with the name of just ONE INDIVIDUAL who was denied the right to vote. Please OMIT those idiot nuts who couldn't read or push a pin through a proper hole in a piece of paper. Once more......... just one name of a person who was denied the right to vote, and whether or not that person took appropriate legal action, and where did the litigation take place?? Thanks !! --James-- Cathy Jackson Donnise DeSouza Angenora Ramsey Margarita Green Read the U.S. Civil Rights Commission's report: "Voting Irregularities in Florida During the 2000 Presidential Election" published June 2001. Here's a link: http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/main.htm Specifically, see the Chapter 2, "First-Hand Accounts of Voter Disenfranchisement" at: http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/ch2.htm |
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As the first time, why would anyone want to rig something they are going to
win anyway? Steve |
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Yeah, right. And all of "those people" who are keeping "blacks and
minorities" from voting. So far, none of "those people" have been found, and neither have any of the "blacks and minorities" who were kept from voting. Getting desperate in the Dem tents. Kerry had a decent chance early on, but he just couldn't tell the truth, and he got called for it. Steve |
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SteveB wrote:
Yeah, right. And all of "those people" who are keeping "blacks and minorities" from voting. So far, none of "those people" have been found, and neither have any of the "blacks and minorities" who were kept from voting. Getting desperate in the Dem tents. Kerry had a decent chance early on, but he just couldn't tell the truth, and he got called for it. Steve Funny how all the anecdotal evidence on which the Civil Rights Commission based their findings came from counties run by Democrats, such as Palm Beach, Broward, Monroe, and Miami-Dade, all of which were strongly leaning to Gore anyway... -- Paul R ------------------------------- For email reply, please remove 195 |
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In article , Ermalina wrote:
Specifically, see the Chapter 2, "First-Hand Accounts of Voter Disenfranchisement" at: http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/ch2.htm Very interesting. The same places keep popping up in that report, over and over: Broward County. Palm Beach County. Miami-Dade County. All controlled by ... DEMOCRATS! And yet Bush is somehow to blame, for the racist behavior of DEMOCRAT poll workers. Amazing. |
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