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2011 murano 110,000
Mint in and out. Needs tranny 1000 bucks Daughter car not that that matters New tires but need a 30 mile tow |
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 17:00:16 -0700 (PDT), Thomas
wrote: 2011 murano 110,000 Mint in and out. Needs tranny 1000 bucks Daughter car not that that matters New tires but need a 30 mile tow With a tranny it would be a ~ $ 6500. car in Canada in Canuck Bucks. .. not sure about replacing the CVT tranny - especially if it's a common failure - the wreckers will be sold out .. I'd ask a good honest tranny shop about it. Make sure the engine is OK .. John T. |
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On 4/13/2021 8:00 PM, Thomas wrote:
2011 murano 110,000 Mint in and out. Needs tranny 1000 bucks Daughter car not that that matters New tires but need a 30 mile tow Worth scrap price as is. Check for a used tranny and it should give you a payback. As is, you may find someone willing to take on the project and give you a few hundred. Your biased opinion aside,there is no such thing as a mint car with 110,000 miles. With a tranny working you can get 5-7 thou depending on model and options. Check out the price to have it rebuilt. |
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 21:10:17 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/13/2021 8:00 PM, Thomas wrote: 2011 murano 110,000 Mint in and out. Needs tranny 1000 bucks Daughter car not that that matters New tires but need a 30 mile tow Worth scrap price as is. Check for a used tranny and it should give you a payback. As is, you may find someone willing to take on the project and give you a few hundred. Your biased opinion aside,there is no such thing as a mint car with 110,000 miles. I will respectfully dissagree. I've seen cars in mint condition with 250,000 KM - you could put them on the showroom floor and be hard pressed to tell it from a car that had never been sold - and not burning ANY oil between changes - with perfect compression and oil pressure. What high standard do you have for "mint" condition? Does it have to excede Hagerty's #2 condition??? (Excellent not concours) Most cars over the last 40 years aren't "concours" from the factory or show-room floor. With a tranny working you can get 5-7 thou depending on model and options. Check out the price to have it rebuilt. |
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On 4/13/2021 8:00 PM, Thomas wrote:
2011 murano 110,000 Mint in and out. Needs tranny 1000 bucks Daughter car not that that matters New tires but need a 30 mile tow i would probably trade it in but would be reticent to get a new Nissan after hearing that their quality has slipped considerably in the last 10 years and major problems with their CVT. $1,000 seems cheap for a tranny repair and may not last long. |
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In article , "frank says...
i would probably trade it in but would be reticent to get a new Nissan after hearing that their quality has slipped considerably in the last 10 years and major problems with their CVT. $1,000 seems cheap for a tranny repair and may not last long. About 3 years ago my son had a Nissan with the CVT that went out at about 130,000 miles. Nissan would not do anything about it as it was 10,000 out of the extended warrenty that Nissan put on that transmission after many of they went out. Cost him around $ 4000 to get it repaired. He got rid of that junker after another year or so. |
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On 4/14/2021 12:32 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 21:10:17 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 4/13/2021 8:00 PM, Thomas wrote: 2011 murano 110,000 Mint in and out. Needs tranny 1000 bucks Daughter car not that that matters New tires but need a 30 mile tow Worth scrap price as is. Check for a used tranny and it should give you a payback. As is, you may find someone willing to take on the project and give you a few hundred. Your biased opinion aside,there is no such thing as a mint car with 110,000 miles. I will respectfully dissagree. I've seen cars in mint condition with 250,000 KM - you could put them on the showroom floor and be hard pressed to tell it from a car that had never been sold - and not burning ANY oil between changes - with perfect compression and oil pressure. What high standard do you have for "mint" condition? Does it have to excede Hagerty's #2 condition??? (Excellent not concours) Most cars over the last 40 years aren't "concours" from the factory or show-room floor. With a tranny working you can get 5-7 thou depending on model and options. Check out the price to have it rebuilt. I bet I could go over his car and find a couple of dozen points. Totally restored may qualify but the typical every day car in far from mint. My brother restored cars for many years so I've seen various conditions. The typical Joe Sixpack often descibes their car as "mint" but it is not. |
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On 4/13/21 8:00 PM, Thomas wrote:
2011 murano 110,000 Mint in and out. Needs tranny 1000 bucks Daughter car not that that matters New tires but need a 30 mile tow Take a pass on the car, drop the $1,000 into the stock market. Leave it there; you'll come out way ahead -- At the rate we're going, they're going to cancel shampoo so bald people won't be offended |
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On 4/14/2021 10:23 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/14/2021 12:32 AM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 21:10:17 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 4/13/2021 8:00 PM, Thomas wrote: 2011 murano* 110,000 Mint in and out. Needs tranny 1000 bucks Daughter car not that that matters New tires but need a 30 mile tow Worth scrap price as is.* Check for a used tranny and it should give you a payback.* As is, you may find someone willing to take on the project and give you a few hundred. Your biased opinion aside,there is no such thing as a mint car with 110,000 miles. * I will respectfully dissagree. I've seen* cars in mint condition with 250,000 KM - you could put them on the showroom floor and* be hard pressed to tell it from a car that had never been sold - and not burning ANY oil between changes - with perfect compression and oil pressure. What high standard do you have for "mint" condition? Does it have to excede Hagerty's #2 condition??? (Excellent not concours)* Most cars over the last 40 years aren't "concours" from the factory or show-room floor. With a tranny working you can get 5-7 thou depending on model and options.* Check out the price to have it rebuilt. I bet I could go over his car and find a couple of dozen points. Totally restored may qualify but the typical every day car in far from mint.* My brother restored cars for many years so I've seen various conditions. The typical Joe Sixpack often descibes their car as "mint" but it is not. Read the used car adds and you will see a lot of MINT cars for sale. Seems a lot of sellers think that means only scratches, no big dents and tires still have visible tread. Not just cars, the term has been used sloppily on many items. |
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On 4/14/2021 10:05 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , "frank says... i would probably trade it in but would be reticent to get a new Nissan after hearing that their quality has slipped considerably in the last 10 years and major problems with their CVT. $1,000 seems cheap for a tranny repair and may not last long. About 3 years ago my son had a Nissan with the CVT that went out at about 130,000 miles. Nissan would not do anything about it as it was 10,000 out of the extended warrenty that Nissan put on that transmission after many of they went out. Cost him around $ 4000 to get it repaired. He got rid of that junker after another year or so. We had a Nissan Sentra ca 1990 that was a great car but traded it in when repair value was approaching book value. Apparently quality started going downhill when they partnered with Renault after 2000. I had a CVT on a 2016 Subaru Forester that got totaled in 2019 replaced with a Subaru Crosstrek with CVT. I like the CVT and get great mileage. Hopefully some of the early problems with this type transmission have been ironed out by now. Google sez: Are Jatco CVT reliable? Nissan subsidiary Jatco supplies many of the world's automakers with CVT transmissions. Nissan vehicles have been featuring CVTs for 15 years, but they've demonstrated less than stellar reliability. ... CVTs. Lots of other Nissan owners have also known the scourge, even after Jatco took steps to improve reliability.May 23, 2018 |
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On 04/14/2021 08:23 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
I bet I could go over his car and find a couple of dozen points. Totally restored may qualify but the typical every day car in far from mint. My brother restored cars for many years so I've seen various conditions. The typical Joe Sixpack often descibes their car as "mint" but it is not. I prefer the lived in look. |
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 18:58:59 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again: I prefer the lived in look. No, you OBVIOUSLY prefer being wordy, senile gossip. |
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On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 10:23:24 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/14/2021 12:32 AM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 21:10:17 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 4/13/2021 8:00 PM, Thomas wrote: 2011 murano 110,000 Mint in and out. Needs tranny 1000 bucks Daughter car not that that matters New tires but need a 30 mile tow Worth scrap price as is. Check for a used tranny and it should give you a payback. As is, you may find someone willing to take on the project and give you a few hundred. Your biased opinion aside,there is no such thing as a mint car with 110,000 miles. I will respectfully dissagree. I've seen cars in mint condition with 250,000 KM - you could put them on the showroom floor and be hard pressed to tell it from a car that had never been sold - and not burning ANY oil between changes - with perfect compression and oil pressure. What high standard do you have for "mint" condition? Does it have to excede Hagerty's #2 condition??? (Excellent not concours) Most cars over the last 40 years aren't "concours" from the factory or show-room floor. With a tranny working you can get 5-7 thou depending on model and options. Check out the price to have it rebuilt. I bet I could go over his car and find a couple of dozen points. Totally restored may qualify but the typical every day car in far from mint. My brother restored cars for many years so I've seen various conditions. The typical Joe Sixpack often descibes their car as "mint" but it is not. How about just real nice. My silver coins are real nice too. |
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On 4/15/2021 5:14 PM, Thomas wrote:
On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 10:23:24 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 4/14/2021 12:32 AM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 21:10:17 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 4/13/2021 8:00 PM, Thomas wrote: 2011 murano 110,000 Mint in and out. Needs tranny 1000 bucks Daughter car not that that matters New tires but need a 30 mile tow Worth scrap price as is. Check for a used tranny and it should give you a payback. As is, you may find someone willing to take on the project and give you a few hundred. Your biased opinion aside,there is no such thing as a mint car with 110,000 miles. I will respectfully dissagree. I've seen cars in mint condition with 250,000 KM - you could put them on the showroom floor and be hard pressed to tell it from a car that had never been sold - and not burning ANY oil between changes - with perfect compression and oil pressure. What high standard do you have for "mint" condition? Does it have to excede Hagerty's #2 condition??? (Excellent not concours) Most cars over the last 40 years aren't "concours" from the factory or show-room floor. With a tranny working you can get 5-7 thou depending on model and options. Check out the price to have it rebuilt. I bet I could go over his car and find a couple of dozen points. Totally restored may qualify but the typical every day car in far from mint. My brother restored cars for many years so I've seen various conditions. The typical Joe Sixpack often descibes their car as "mint" but it is not. How about just real nice. My silver coins are real nice too. That is possible. Mint would be less than 100 miles on the OEM tires, no measurable wear on brake pads or rotors, perfect carpeting, perfect seats. Engine compartment with no drips, stains, dust, visible wear. Just as your coins, if they came from the mint to you, yes. if in circulation, no. I do know of a '66 Mustang in mint condition. The guy bought it and drove from the dealer to his garage and parked it. |
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On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 4/14/2021 10:05 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says... i would probably trade it in but would be reticent to get a new Nissan after hearing that their quality has slipped considerably in the last 10 years and major problems with their CVT. $1,000 seems cheap for a tranny repair and may not last long. About 3 years ago my son had a Nissan with the CVT that went out at about 130,000 miles. Nissan would not do anything about it as it was 10,000 out of the extended warrenty that Nissan put on that transmission after many of they went out. Cost him around $ 4000 to get it repaired. He got rid of that junker after another year or so. We had a Nissan Sentra ca 1990 that was a great car but traded it in when repair value was approaching book value. Apparently quality started going downhill when they partnered with Renault after 2000. I had a CVT on a 2016 Subaru Forester that got totaled in 2019 replaced with a Subaru Crosstrek with CVT. I like the CVT and get great mileage. Hopefully some of the early problems with this type transmission have been ironed out by now. Google sez: Are Jatco CVT reliable? Nissan subsidiary Jatco supplies many of the world's automakers with CVT transmissions. Nissan vehicles have been featuring CVTs for 15 years, but they've demonstrated less than stellar reliability. ... CVTs. Lots of other Nissan owners have also known the scourge, even after Jatco took steps to improve reliability.May 23, 2018 I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread. Seems they took the slipping belt idea that self-propelled lawn mowers use and put it on cars. Similar idea, but I guess the two pulleys change width so the belt doesn't slip a lot. Seems they are more failure prone and more costly to replace or fix. I wonder why they are more costly than a regular automatic? Seems they would be less complex to me. Also I see a lot of people don't like them because they don't behave like the automatics they are used to, with shift points. Good to know when looking for the next car. |
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On Friday, April 16, 2021 at 7:16:49 AM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread. Seems they took the slipping belt idea that self-propelled lawn mowers use and put it on cars. Similar idea, but I guess the two pulleys change width so the belt doesn't slip a lot. Seems they are more failure prone and more costly to replace or fix. I wonder why they are more costly than a regular automatic? Seems they would be less complex to me. Also I see a lot of people don't like them because they don't behave like the automatics they are used to, with shift points. Good to know when looking for the next car. The variable speed pulley thing goes back to the 1940s. My dad had it on a Minneapolis Moline set up as a combine. Those became the New Idea Uni System. One could use those as a corn picker, combine, or hay chopper. Dad's had a normal three? speed transmission plus the variable speed. A V belt connected two pulleys that could expand or contract. I think there was an arm connecting them so one expanded while the other contracted keeping the belt tight. |
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![]() I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread. Since 2006 in some Nissan ; 2008 in some Mitzubishi. John T. |
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On 4/16/2021 8:16 AM, trader_4 wrote:
I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread. Seems they took the slipping belt idea that self-propelled lawn mowers use and put it on cars. Similar idea, but I guess the two pulleys change width so the belt doesn't slip a lot. Seems they are more failure prone and more costly to replace or fix. I wonder why they are more costly than a regular automatic? Seems they would be less complex to me. Also I see a lot of people don't like them because they don't behave like the automatics they are used to, with shift points. Good to know when looking for the next car. At the time it was touted as the future of automatics. No one else has joined in though. Now, 6 and 8 speed trannys are normal and have good performance. |
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On Friday, April 16, 2021 at 8:43:59 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/16/2021 8:16 AM, trader_4 wrote: I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread. Seems they took the slipping belt idea that self-propelled lawn mowers use and put it on cars. Similar idea, but I guess the two pulleys change width so the belt doesn't slip a lot. Seems they are more failure prone and more costly to replace or fix. I wonder why they are more costly than a regular automatic? Seems they would be less complex to me. Also I see a lot of people don't like them because they don't behave like the automatics they are used to, with shift points. Good to know when looking for the next car. At the time it was touted as the future of automatics. No one else has joined in though. Now, 6 and 8 speed trannys are normal and have good performance. I guess Mazda is reviving the Wankel engine. Then there is this thing. https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/car-technology/a25938374/szorenyi-rotary-engine/ |
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On 4/16/2021 9:43 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/16/2021 8:16 AM, trader_4 wrote: I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread.** Seems they took the slipping belt idea that self-propelled lawn mowers use and put it on cars. Similar idea, but I guess the two pulleys change width so the belt doesn't slip a lot.* Seems they are more failure prone and more costly to replace or fix.* I wonder why they are more costly than a regular automatic?* Seems they would be less complex to me.* Also I see a lot of people don't like them because they don't behave like the automatics they are used to, with shift points.* Good to know when looking for the next car. At the time it was touted as the future of automatics.* No one else has joined in though.* Now, 6 and 8 speed trannys are normal and have good performance. CVT's do continue to proliferate as I believe they are cheaper to make with less parts and give improved mileage. I was hearing this about Toyota's that include a low gear to start: "Toyota brands the K120 as the Direct Shift-CVT and includes a physical first gear (also known as a "launch gear") and nine additional simulated gears, for a total of 10. The launch gear is engaged when the car takes off from being stopped and transitions to the belt drive once the car picks up speed." Gets around one concern that CVT is sluggish to start. |
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![]() "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote: On 4/14/2021 10:05 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says... i would probably trade it in but would be reticent to get a new Nissan after hearing that their quality has slipped considerably in the last 10 years and major problems with their CVT. $1,000 seems cheap for a tranny repair and may not last long. About 3 years ago my son had a Nissan with the CVT that went out at about 130,000 miles. Nissan would not do anything about it as it was 10,000 out of the extended warrenty that Nissan put on that transmission after many of they went out. Cost him around $ 4000 to get it repaired. He got rid of that junker after another year or so. We had a Nissan Sentra ca 1990 that was a great car but traded it in when repair value was approaching book value. Apparently quality started going downhill when they partnered with Renault after 2000. I had a CVT on a 2016 Subaru Forester that got totaled in 2019 replaced with a Subaru Crosstrek with CVT. I like the CVT and get great mileage. Hopefully some of the early problems with this type transmission have been ironed out by now. Google sez: Are Jatco CVT reliable? Nissan subsidiary Jatco supplies many of the world's automakers with CVT transmissions. Nissan vehicles have been featuring CVTs for 15 years, but they've demonstrated less than stellar reliability. ... CVTs. Lots of other Nissan owners have also known the scourge, even after Jatco took steps to improve reliability.May 23, 2018 I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread. Seems they took the slipping belt idea that self-propelled lawn mowers use and put it on cars. The you need a hearing aid, BAD. Similar idea, Nope and nothing even remotely like it. but I guess the two pulleys change width so the belt doesn't slip a lot. There is no belt. Seems they are more failure prone and more costly to replace or fix. More mindless bull****. I wonder why they are more costly than a regular automatic? They arent. Seems they would be less complex to me. But you dont have a ****ing clue about how they work. Also I see a lot of people don't like them because they don't behave like the automatics they are used to, with shift points. More mindless bull****. Good to know when looking for the next car. |
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On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 01:50:52 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- Richard addressing senile Rodent Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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On Friday, April 16, 2021 at 11:51:03 AM UTC-4, Rod Speed wrote:
"trader_4" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote: On 4/14/2021 10:05 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says.... i would probably trade it in but would be reticent to get a new Nissan after hearing that their quality has slipped considerably in the last 10 years and major problems with their CVT. $1,000 seems cheap for a tranny repair and may not last long. About 3 years ago my son had a Nissan with the CVT that went out at about 130,000 miles. Nissan would not do anything about it as it was 10,000 out of the extended warrenty that Nissan put on that transmission after many of they went out. Cost him around $ 4000 to get it repaired. He got rid of that junker after another year or so. We had a Nissan Sentra ca 1990 that was a great car but traded it in when repair value was approaching book value. Apparently quality started going downhill when they partnered with Renault after 2000. I had a CVT on a 2016 Subaru Forester that got totaled in 2019 replaced with a Subaru Crosstrek with CVT. I like the CVT and get great mileage.. Hopefully some of the early problems with this type transmission have been ironed out by now. Google sez: Are Jatco CVT reliable? Nissan subsidiary Jatco supplies many of the world's automakers with CVT transmissions. Nissan vehicles have been featuring CVTs for 15 years, but they've demonstrated less than stellar reliability. ... CVTs. Lots of other Nissan owners have also known the scourge, even after Jatco took steps to improve reliability.May 23, 2018 I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread. Seems they took the slipping belt idea that self-propelled lawn mowers use and put it on cars. The you need a hearing aid, BAD. Similar idea, Nope and nothing even remotely like it. but I guess the two pulleys change width so the belt doesn't slip a lot.. There is no belt. From an Australian auto website: https://carpart.com.au/blog/technical/what-is-a-cvt "The belt-operated design of a CVT offers around 88% proficiency, although, considerably smaller than the efficiency of a manual transmission, can be balanced by lower creation cost and by empowering the motor to keep running at its most efficient speed for a scope of output speeds. A lot of vehicle models and brands now use CVT transmission for their engines or motors, some of these car brands and models include: Toyota: Toyota Prius, Toyota Corolla, Toyota Mark X, Toyota Allion, Toyota Premio, and Toyota Avalon. Subaru: Subaru Legacy, Subaru Crosstrek, Subaru Impreza, Subaru Outback and Subaru Forester. Nissan: Nissan Sunny, Nissan Cube, Nissan Juke, Nissan X-trail, Nissan Maxima, Nissan Rogue, Nissan Murano, and Nissan Pathfinder. Honda: Honda Fit, Honda CR-Z hybrid, Honda Accord, and Honda Civic. Ford: Ford C-Max (hybrid). Suzuki: S-Cross SX4, and Suzuki Kizashi. Dodge: Dodge Caliber. Chrysler: Pacifica hybrid. Jeep: Jeep Compass and Jeep Patriot." The have a nice picture showing the belt too. And they must be right, because they are from the land of kangaroos. BTW, isn't it time for you to get off the internet for at least a few minutes and go feed them? |
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![]() "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Friday, April 16, 2021 at 11:51:03 AM UTC-4, Rod Speed wrote: "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote: On 4/14/2021 10:05 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says... i would probably trade it in but would be reticent to get a new Nissan after hearing that their quality has slipped considerably in the last 10 years and major problems with their CVT. $1,000 seems cheap for a tranny repair and may not last long. About 3 years ago my son had a Nissan with the CVT that went out at about 130,000 miles. Nissan would not do anything about it as it was 10,000 out of the extended warrenty that Nissan put on that transmission after many of they went out. Cost him around $ 4000 to get it repaired. He got rid of that junker after another year or so. We had a Nissan Sentra ca 1990 that was a great car but traded it in when repair value was approaching book value. Apparently quality started going downhill when they partnered with Renault after 2000. I had a CVT on a 2016 Subaru Forester that got totaled in 2019 replaced with a Subaru Crosstrek with CVT. I like the CVT and get great mileage. Hopefully some of the early problems with this type transmission have been ironed out by now. Google sez: Are Jatco CVT reliable? Nissan subsidiary Jatco supplies many of the world's automakers with CVT transmissions. Nissan vehicles have been featuring CVTs for 15 years, but they've demonstrated less than stellar reliability. ... CVTs. Lots of other Nissan owners have also known the scourge, even after Jatco took steps to improve reliability.May 23, 2018 I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread. Seems they took the slipping belt idea that self-propelled lawn mowers use and put it on cars. The you need a hearing aid, BAD. Similar idea, Nope and nothing even remotely like it. but I guess the two pulleys change width so the belt doesn't slip a lot. There is no belt. From an Australian auto website: https://carpart.com.au/blog/technical/what-is-a-cvt "The belt-operated design of a CVT offers around 88% proficiency, although, considerably smaller than the efficiency of a manual transmission, can be balanced by lower creation cost and by empowering the motor to keep running at its most efficient speed for a scope of output speeds. Just another steaming turd of a web site. Pity about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contin...smission#Types |
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 05:10:44 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 09:43:52 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/16/2021 8:16 AM, trader_4 wrote: I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread. Seems they took the slipping belt idea that self-propelled lawn mowers use and put it on cars. Similar idea, but I guess the two pulleys change width so the belt doesn't slip a lot. Seems they are more failure prone and more costly to replace or fix. I wonder why they are more costly than a regular automatic? Seems they would be less complex to me. Also I see a lot of people don't like them because they don't behave like the automatics they are used to, with shift points. Good to know when looking for the next car. At the time it was touted as the future of automatics. No one else has joined in though. Now, 6 and 8 speed trannys are normal and have good performance. A lot of multi-speed automatics are actuallyprogrammed CVTs - like the Toyota Corolla S type? which acts just luke a 6 speed ? automatic. |
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On 16/4/21 10:16 pm, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote: On 4/14/2021 10:05 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says... i would probably trade it in but would be reticent to get a new Nissan after hearing that their quality has slipped considerably in the last 10 years and major problems with their CVT. $1,000 seems cheap for a tranny repair and may not last long. About 3 years ago my son had a Nissan with the CVT that went out at about 130,000 miles. Nissan would not do anything about it as it was 10,000 out of the extended warrenty that Nissan put on that transmission after many of they went out. Cost him around $ 4000 to get it repaired. He got rid of that junker after another year or so. We had a Nissan Sentra ca 1990 that was a great car but traded it in when repair value was approaching book value. Apparently quality started going downhill when they partnered with Renault after 2000. I had a CVT on a 2016 Subaru Forester that got totaled in 2019 replaced with a Subaru Crosstrek with CVT. I like the CVT and get great mileage. Hopefully some of the early problems with this type transmission have been ironed out by now. Google sez: Are Jatco CVT reliable? Nissan subsidiary Jatco supplies many of the world's automakers with CVT transmissions. Nissan vehicles have been featuring CVTs for 15 years, but they've demonstrated less than stellar reliability. ... CVTs. Lots of other Nissan owners have also known the scourge, even after Jatco took steps to improve reliability.May 23, 2018 I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread. Seems they took They've been around a long time. the slipping belt idea that self-propelled lawn mowers use and put it on cars. Similar idea, but I guess the two pulleys change width so the belt doesn't slip a lot. Seems they are more failure prone and more costly to replace or They are push belts. They don't pull like you might think. fix. I wonder why they are more costly than a regular automatic? Seems they would be less complex to me. Also I see a lot of people don't like them Much higher pressures in the hydraulics is one. because they don't behave like the automatics they are used to, with shift points. Good to know when looking for the next car. -- Xeno Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing. (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson) |
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On 16/4/21 11:12 pm, wrote:
I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread. Since 2006 in some Nissan ; 2008 in some Mitzubishi. John T. Try 1989 with the Subaru Justy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Justy Or even earlier; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variomatic -- Xeno Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing. (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson) |
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On 17/4/21 1:50 am, Rod Speed wrote:
"trader_4" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote: On 4/14/2021 10:05 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says... i would probably trade it in but would be reticent to get a new Nissan after hearing that their quality has slipped considerably in the last 10 years and major problems with their CVT. $1,000 seems cheap for a tranny repair and may not last long. About 3 years ago my son had a Nissan with the CVT that went out at about 130,000 miles. Nissan would not do anything about it as it was 10,000 out of the extended warrenty that Nissan put on that transmission after many of they went out. Cost him around $ 4000 to get it repaired. He got rid of that junker after another year or so. We had a Nissan Sentra ca 1990 that was a great car but traded it in when repair value was approaching book value. Apparently quality started going downhill when they partnered with Renault after 2000. I had a CVT on a 2016 Subaru Forester that got totaled in 2019 replaced with a Subaru Crosstrek with CVT. I like the CVT and get great mileage. Hopefully some of the early problems with this type transmission have been ironed out by now. Google sez: Are Jatco CVT reliable? Nissan subsidiary Jatco supplies many of the world's automakers with CVT transmissions. Nissan vehicles have been featuring CVTs for 15 years, but they've demonstrated less than stellar reliability. ... CVTs. Lots of other Nissan owners have also known the scourge, even after Jatco took steps to improve reliability.May 23, 2018 I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread.** Seems they took the slipping belt idea that self-propelled lawn mowers use and put it on cars. The you need a hearing aid, BAD. Similar idea, Nope and nothing even remotely like it. but I guess the two pulleys change width so the belt doesn't slip a lot. There is no belt. Yes there is. It is a metal push belt. Here, go educate yourself; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiwRUfFEc5k Seems they are more failure prone and more costly to replace or fix. More mindless bull****. They are if they are Jatco. I wonder why they are more costly than a regular automatic? They arent. Seems they would be less complex to me. But you dont have a ****ing clue about how they work. Neither do you. Also I see a lot of people don't like them because they don't behave like the automatics they are used to, with shift points. More mindless bull****. You're wrong again Rod. People do not like the rubber band effect of a CVT. That's why manufacturers have indexed shift points now. Good to know when looking for the next car. -- Xeno Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing. (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson) |
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On 17/4/21 10:33 pm, trader_4 wrote:
On Friday, April 16, 2021 at 11:51:03 AM UTC-4, Rod Speed wrote: "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote: On 4/14/2021 10:05 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says... i would probably trade it in but would be reticent to get a new Nissan after hearing that their quality has slipped considerably in the last 10 years and major problems with their CVT. $1,000 seems cheap for a tranny repair and may not last long. About 3 years ago my son had a Nissan with the CVT that went out at about 130,000 miles. Nissan would not do anything about it as it was 10,000 out of the extended warrenty that Nissan put on that transmission after many of they went out. Cost him around $ 4000 to get it repaired. He got rid of that junker after another year or so. We had a Nissan Sentra ca 1990 that was a great car but traded it in when repair value was approaching book value. Apparently quality started going downhill when they partnered with Renault after 2000. I had a CVT on a 2016 Subaru Forester that got totaled in 2019 replaced with a Subaru Crosstrek with CVT. I like the CVT and get great mileage. Hopefully some of the early problems with this type transmission have been ironed out by now. Google sez: Are Jatco CVT reliable? Nissan subsidiary Jatco supplies many of the world's automakers with CVT transmissions. Nissan vehicles have been featuring CVTs for 15 years, but they've demonstrated less than stellar reliability. ... CVTs. Lots of other Nissan owners have also known the scourge, even after Jatco took steps to improve reliability.May 23, 2018 I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread. Seems they took the slipping belt idea that self-propelled lawn mowers use and put it on cars. The you need a hearing aid, BAD. Similar idea, Nope and nothing even remotely like it. but I guess the two pulleys change width so the belt doesn't slip a lot. There is no belt. From an Australian auto website: https://carpart.com.au/blog/technical/what-is-a-cvt "The belt-operated design of a CVT offers around 88% proficiency, although, considerably smaller than the efficiency of a manual transmission, can be balanced by lower creation cost and by empowering the motor to keep running at its most efficient speed for a scope of output speeds. A lot of vehicle models and brands now use CVT transmission for their engines or motors, some of these car brands and models include: Toyota: Toyota Prius, Toyota Corolla, Toyota Mark X, Toyota Allion, Toyota Premio, and Toyota Avalon. Subaru: Subaru Legacy, Subaru Crosstrek, Subaru Impreza, Subaru Outback and Subaru Forester. Nissan: Nissan Sunny, Nissan Cube, Nissan Juke, Nissan X-trail, Nissan Maxima, Nissan Rogue, Nissan Murano, and Nissan Pathfinder. Honda: Honda Fit, Honda CR-Z hybrid, Honda Accord, and Honda Civic. Ford: Ford C-Max (hybrid). Suzuki: S-Cross SX4, and Suzuki Kizashi. Dodge: Dodge Caliber. Chrysler: Pacifica hybrid. Jeep: Jeep Compass and Jeep Patriot." The have a nice picture showing the belt too. And they must be right, because they are from the land of kangaroos. BTW, isn't it time for you to get off the internet for at least a few minutes and go feed them? Rod's none too bright. ;-) -- Xeno Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing. (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson) |
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![]() "Xeno" wrote in message ... On 17/4/21 1:50 am, Rod Speed wrote: "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote: On 4/14/2021 10:05 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says... i would probably trade it in but would be reticent to get a new Nissan after hearing that their quality has slipped considerably in the last 10 years and major problems with their CVT. $1,000 seems cheap for a tranny repair and may not last long. About 3 years ago my son had a Nissan with the CVT that went out at about 130,000 miles. Nissan would not do anything about it as it was 10,000 out of the extended warrenty that Nissan put on that transmission after many of they went out. Cost him around $ 4000 to get it repaired. He got rid of that junker after another year or so. We had a Nissan Sentra ca 1990 that was a great car but traded it in when repair value was approaching book value. Apparently quality started going downhill when they partnered with Renault after 2000. I had a CVT on a 2016 Subaru Forester that got totaled in 2019 replaced with a Subaru Crosstrek with CVT. I like the CVT and get great mileage. Hopefully some of the early problems with this type transmission have been ironed out by now. Google sez: Are Jatco CVT reliable? Nissan subsidiary Jatco supplies many of the world's automakers with CVT transmissions. Nissan vehicles have been featuring CVTs for 15 years, but they've demonstrated less than stellar reliability. ... CVTs. Lots of other Nissan owners have also known the scourge, even after Jatco took steps to improve reliability.May 23, 2018 I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread. Seems they took the slipping belt idea that self-propelled lawn mowers use and put it on cars. The you need a hearing aid, BAD. Similar idea, Nope and nothing even remotely like it. but I guess the two pulleys change width so the belt doesn't slip a lot. There is no belt. Yes there is. It is a metal push belt. So nothing even remotely like what self-propelled lawn mowers use. reams of the rest of your troll**** flushed where it belongs |
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 00:34:37 +1000, Xeno
wrote: On 17/4/21 10:33 pm, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, April 16, 2021 at 11:51:03 AM UTC-4, Rod Speed wrote: "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote: On 4/14/2021 10:05 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says... i would probably trade it in but would be reticent to get a new Nissan after hearing that their quality has slipped considerably in the last 10 years and major problems with their CVT. $1,000 seems cheap for a tranny repair and may not last long. About 3 years ago my son had a Nissan with the CVT that went out at about 130,000 miles. Nissan would not do anything about it as it was 10,000 out of the extended warrenty that Nissan put on that transmission after many of they went out. Cost him around $ 4000 to get it repaired. He got rid of that junker after another year or so. We had a Nissan Sentra ca 1990 that was a great car but traded it in when repair value was approaching book value. Apparently quality started going downhill when they partnered with Renault after 2000. I had a CVT on a 2016 Subaru Forester that got totaled in 2019 replaced with a Subaru Crosstrek with CVT. I like the CVT and get great mileage. Hopefully some of the early problems with this type transmission have been ironed out by now. Google sez: Are Jatco CVT reliable? Nissan subsidiary Jatco supplies many of the world's automakers with CVT transmissions. Nissan vehicles have been featuring CVTs for 15 years, but they've demonstrated less than stellar reliability. ... CVTs. Lots of other Nissan owners have also known the scourge, even after Jatco took steps to improve reliability.May 23, 2018 I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread. Seems they took the slipping belt idea that self-propelled lawn mowers use and put it on cars. The you need a hearing aid, BAD. Similar idea, Nope and nothing even remotely like it. but I guess the two pulleys change width so the belt doesn't slip a lot. There is no belt. From an Australian auto website: https://carpart.com.au/blog/technical/what-is-a-cvt "The belt-operated design of a CVT offers around 88% proficiency, although, considerably smaller than the efficiency of a manual transmission, can be balanced by lower creation cost and by empowering the motor to keep running at its most efficient speed for a scope of output speeds. A lot of vehicle models and brands now use CVT transmission for their engines or motors, some of these car brands and models include: Toyota: Toyota Prius, Toyota Corolla, Toyota Mark X, Toyota Allion, Toyota Premio, and Toyota Avalon. Subaru: Subaru Legacy, Subaru Crosstrek, Subaru Impreza, Subaru Outback and Subaru Forester. Nissan: Nissan Sunny, Nissan Cube, Nissan Juke, Nissan X-trail, Nissan Maxima, Nissan Rogue, Nissan Murano, and Nissan Pathfinder. Honda: Honda Fit, Honda CR-Z hybrid, Honda Accord, and Honda Civic. Ford: Ford C-Max (hybrid). Suzuki: S-Cross SX4, and Suzuki Kizashi. Dodge: Dodge Caliber. Chrysler: Pacifica hybrid. Jeep: Jeep Compass and Jeep Patriot." The have a nice picture showing the belt too. And they must be right, because they are from the land of kangaroos. BTW, isn't it time for you to get off the internet for at least a few minutes and go feed them? Rod's none too bright. ;-) Are you trying to compete for the understatement of the year award?? If so you are doing pretty good!! |
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 04:43:20 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- addressing nym-shifting senile Rodent: "You on the other hand are a heavyweight bull****ter who demonstrates his particular prowess at it every day." MID: |
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On 19/4/21 4:53 am, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 00:34:37 +1000, Xeno wrote: On 17/4/21 10:33 pm, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, April 16, 2021 at 11:51:03 AM UTC-4, Rod Speed wrote: "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote: On 4/14/2021 10:05 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says... i would probably trade it in but would be reticent to get a new Nissan after hearing that their quality has slipped considerably in the last 10 years and major problems with their CVT. $1,000 seems cheap for a tranny repair and may not last long. About 3 years ago my son had a Nissan with the CVT that went out at about 130,000 miles. Nissan would not do anything about it as it was 10,000 out of the extended warrenty that Nissan put on that transmission after many of they went out. Cost him around $ 4000 to get it repaired. He got rid of that junker after another year or so. We had a Nissan Sentra ca 1990 that was a great car but traded it in when repair value was approaching book value. Apparently quality started going downhill when they partnered with Renault after 2000. I had a CVT on a 2016 Subaru Forester that got totaled in 2019 replaced with a Subaru Crosstrek with CVT. I like the CVT and get great mileage. Hopefully some of the early problems with this type transmission have been ironed out by now. Google sez: Are Jatco CVT reliable? Nissan subsidiary Jatco supplies many of the world's automakers with CVT transmissions. Nissan vehicles have been featuring CVTs for 15 years, but they've demonstrated less than stellar reliability. ... CVTs. Lots of other Nissan owners have also known the scourge, even after Jatco took steps to improve reliability.May 23, 2018 I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread. Seems they took the slipping belt idea that self-propelled lawn mowers use and put it on cars. The you need a hearing aid, BAD. Similar idea, Nope and nothing even remotely like it. but I guess the two pulleys change width so the belt doesn't slip a lot. There is no belt. From an Australian auto website: https://carpart.com.au/blog/technical/what-is-a-cvt "The belt-operated design of a CVT offers around 88% proficiency, although, considerably smaller than the efficiency of a manual transmission, can be balanced by lower creation cost and by empowering the motor to keep running at its most efficient speed for a scope of output speeds. A lot of vehicle models and brands now use CVT transmission for their engines or motors, some of these car brands and models include: Toyota: Toyota Prius, Toyota Corolla, Toyota Mark X, Toyota Allion, Toyota Premio, and Toyota Avalon. Subaru: Subaru Legacy, Subaru Crosstrek, Subaru Impreza, Subaru Outback and Subaru Forester. Nissan: Nissan Sunny, Nissan Cube, Nissan Juke, Nissan X-trail, Nissan Maxima, Nissan Rogue, Nissan Murano, and Nissan Pathfinder. Honda: Honda Fit, Honda CR-Z hybrid, Honda Accord, and Honda Civic. Ford: Ford C-Max (hybrid). Suzuki: S-Cross SX4, and Suzuki Kizashi. Dodge: Dodge Caliber. Chrysler: Pacifica hybrid. Jeep: Jeep Compass and Jeep Patriot." The have a nice picture showing the belt too. And they must be right, because they are from the land of kangaroos. BTW, isn't it time for you to get off the internet for at least a few minutes and go feed them? Rod's none too bright. ;-) Are you trying to compete for the understatement of the year award?? If so you are doing pretty good!! It must be the penchant I have for stating the obvious! LOL -- Xeno Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing. (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson) |
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On 19/4/21 4:43 am, Rod Speed wrote:
"Xeno" wrote in message ... On 17/4/21 1:50 am, Rod Speed wrote: "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote: On 4/14/2021 10:05 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says... i would probably trade it in but would be reticent to get a new Nissan after hearing that their quality has slipped considerably in the last 10 years and major problems with their CVT. $1,000 seems cheap for a tranny repair and may not last long. About 3 years ago my son had a Nissan with the CVT that went out at about 130,000 miles. Nissan would not do anything about it as it was 10,000 out of the extended warrenty that Nissan put on that transmission after many of they went out. Cost him around $ 4000 to get it repaired. He got rid of that junker after another year or so. We had a Nissan Sentra ca 1990 that was a great car but traded it in when repair value was approaching book value. Apparently quality started going downhill when they partnered with Renault after 2000. I had a CVT on a 2016 Subaru Forester that got totaled in 2019 replaced with a Subaru Crosstrek with CVT. I like the CVT and get great mileage. Hopefully some of the early problems with this type transmission have been ironed out by now. Google sez: Are Jatco CVT reliable? Nissan subsidiary Jatco supplies many of the world's automakers with CVT transmissions. Nissan vehicles have been featuring CVTs for 15 years, but they've demonstrated less than stellar reliability. ... CVTs. Lots of other Nissan owners have also known the scourge, even after Jatco took steps to improve reliability.May 23, 2018 I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread.** Seems they took the slipping belt idea that self-propelled lawn mowers use and put it on cars. The you need a hearing aid, BAD. Similar idea, Nope and nothing even remotely like it. but I guess the two pulleys change width so the belt doesn't slip a lot. There is no belt. Yes there is. It is a metal push belt. So nothing even remotely like what self-propelled lawn mowers use. Conceptually identical Rod. Not surprised you can't see it. FWIW, the original automotive CVT, the DAF, did use rubber pull belts. reams of the rest of your troll**** flushed where it belongs Ah, the standard Rod Speed troll response when he's been done like a dinner. Who wouldn't have expected that? -- Xeno Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing. (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson) |
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![]() "Xeno" wrote in message ... On 19/4/21 4:43 am, Rod Speed wrote: "Xeno" wrote in message ... On 17/4/21 1:50 am, Rod Speed wrote: "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote: On 4/14/2021 10:05 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says... i would probably trade it in but would be reticent to get a new Nissan after hearing that their quality has slipped considerably in the last 10 years and major problems with their CVT. $1,000 seems cheap for a tranny repair and may not last long. About 3 years ago my son had a Nissan with the CVT that went out at about 130,000 miles. Nissan would not do anything about it as it was 10,000 out of the extended warrenty that Nissan put on that transmission after many of they went out. Cost him around $ 4000 to get it repaired. He got rid of that junker after another year or so. We had a Nissan Sentra ca 1990 that was a great car but traded it in when repair value was approaching book value. Apparently quality started going downhill when they partnered with Renault after 2000. I had a CVT on a 2016 Subaru Forester that got totaled in 2019 replaced with a Subaru Crosstrek with CVT. I like the CVT and get great mileage. Hopefully some of the early problems with this type transmission have been ironed out by now. Google sez: Are Jatco CVT reliable? Nissan subsidiary Jatco supplies many of the world's automakers with CVT transmissions. Nissan vehicles have been featuring CVTs for 15 years, but they've demonstrated less than stellar reliability. ... CVTs. Lots of other Nissan owners have also known the scourge, even after Jatco took steps to improve reliability.May 23, 2018 I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread. Seems they took the slipping belt idea that self-propelled lawn mowers use and put it on cars. The you need a hearing aid, BAD. Similar idea, Nope and nothing even remotely like it. but I guess the two pulleys change width so the belt doesn't slip a lot. There is no belt. Yes there is. It is a metal push belt. So nothing even remotely like what self-propelled lawn mowers use. Conceptually identical Rod. You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. reams of the rest of your troll**** flushed where it belongs |
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On 19/4/21 3:19 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
"Xeno" wrote in message ... On 19/4/21 4:43 am, Rod Speed wrote: "Xeno" wrote in message ... On 17/4/21 1:50 am, Rod Speed wrote: "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote: On 4/14/2021 10:05 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says... i would probably trade it in but would be reticent to get a new Nissan after hearing that their quality has slipped considerably in the last 10 years and major problems with their CVT. $1,000 seems cheap for a tranny repair and may not last long. About 3 years ago my son had a Nissan with the CVT that went out at about 130,000 miles. Nissan would not do anything about it as it was 10,000 out of the extended warrenty that Nissan put on that transmission after many of they went out. Cost him around $ 4000 to get it repaired. He got rid of that junker after another year or so. We had a Nissan Sentra ca 1990 that was a great car but traded it in when repair value was approaching book value. Apparently quality started going downhill when they partnered with Renault after 2000. I had a CVT on a 2016 Subaru Forester that got totaled in 2019 replaced with a Subaru Crosstrek with CVT. I like the CVT and get great mileage. Hopefully some of the early problems with this type transmission have been ironed out by now. Google sez: Are Jatco CVT reliable? Nissan subsidiary Jatco supplies many of the world's automakers with CVT transmissions. Nissan vehicles have been featuring CVTs for 15 years, but they've demonstrated less than stellar reliability. ... CVTs. Lots of other Nissan owners have also known the scourge, even after Jatco took steps to improve reliability.May 23, 2018 I had never heard of CVT transmissions until this thread.** Seems they took the slipping belt idea that self-propelled lawn mowers use and put it on cars. The you need a hearing aid, BAD. Similar idea, Nope and nothing even remotely like it. but I guess the two pulleys change width so the belt doesn't slip a lot. There is no belt. Yes there is. It is a metal push belt. So nothing even remotely like what self-propelled lawn mowers use. Conceptually identical Rod. You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. reams of the rest of your troll**** flushed where it belongs Thank you for conceding. -- Xeno Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing. (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson) |
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