In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 30 Mar 2021 05:42:59 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 12:15:16 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 29 Mar 2021 19:28:02 -0400, Dan
wrote:


https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/

WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
I hope that's true. I'm glad to hear it. It means people with sense
enough to get vaccinated will have some of their freedom of movement
restoreable, and won't thave to suffer as much because of the morons who
won't get vaccinated.
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would be denied entrance.
Damn right.

Sounds logical, constitutional and reasonable to me. Of course there are the usual
bunch, eg the governor of FL, who just issued an executive order banning anyone,
any business from instituting such a policy in FL.

Someone will challenge that in court, and win. I'd like it to be the
ACLU. I don't know where most of the ACLU stands on something like that,
but I went to hear an ACLU speaker 20 years ago who gave both sides of
some issue.

He's obviously trying to cultivate
the crazy Republican Covid denier base, take over Trump's legacy and run for president.
He won't get my vote.

On 30/03/2021 00:28, Dan wrote:

https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/


WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with
corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons
admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would be
denied entrance.

It's not the end of liberty, but a temporary step using common sense.
You can choose to die on that hill, but you'll need the survivors who've
used commen sense to bury you.

On 3/30/21 12:30 AM, Bod wrote:
On 30/03/2021 00:28, Dan wrote:

https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/

WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would be denied entrance.

It's not the end of liberty, but a temporary step using common sense.
You can choose to die on that hill, but you'll need the survivors who've used commen sense to bury you.


The Fauci-19 virus is actually a pretty limp-dick virus.Â* My immune system works so I'm not worried at all.

On 30/03/2021 12:52, Pinocchio Psaki wrote:
On 3/30/21 12:30 AM, Bod wrote:
On 30/03/2021 00:28, Dan wrote:

https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/


WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with
corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons
admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would
be denied entrance.

It's not the end of liberty, but a temporary step using common sense.
You can choose to die on that hill, but you'll need the survivors
who've used commen sense to bury you.


The Fauci-19 virus is actually a pretty limp-dick virus.Â* My immune
system works so I'm not worried at all.

Many others ended up in their graves after saying that.

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 30 Mar 2021 13:17:55 +0100, Bod
wrote:

On 30/03/2021 12:52, Pinocchio Psaki wrote:
On 3/30/21 12:30 AM, Bod wrote:
On 30/03/2021 00:28, Dan wrote:

https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/


WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with
corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons
admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would
be denied entrance.

It's not the end of liberty, but a temporary step using common sense.
You can choose to die on that hill, but you'll need the survivors
who've used commen sense to bury you.


The Fauci-19 virus is actually a pretty limp-dick virus.* My immune
system works so I'm not worried at all.

Many others ended up in their graves after saying that.

Yeah. It's almost an omen of death. Pinocchio should be careful or the
termites will be eating his dead body.

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:28:14 PM UTC-4, Dan wrote:
https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/

WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would be denied entrance.

Why don't you want businesses to be able to keep virus spreaders out of
their establishments? Don't they have freedom, too?

Cindy Hamilton

On 3/30/21 5:46 AM, wrote:
On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:28:14 PM UTC-4, Dan wrote:
https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/

WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would be denied entrance.
Why don't you want businesses to be able to keep virus spreaders out of
their establishments? Don't they have freedom, too?

Cindy Hamilton


According to the democrats flip-floppin virus nazi, the experimental gene therapy "vaccine" still requires people to wear a mask...maybe two..

Does this experimental gene therapy work or not?


And then there's the blood clot issue.

https://news.yahoo.com/canada-halts-...082312893.html

On 30/03/2021 12:10, Pinocchio Psaki wrote:
On 3/30/21 5:46 AM, wrote:
On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:28:14 PM UTC-4, Dan wrote:
https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/


WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with
corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons
admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would
be denied entrance.
Why don't you want businesses to be able to keep virus spreaders out of
their establishments?Â* Don't they have freedom, too?

Cindy Hamilton


According to the democrats flip-floppin virus nazi, the experimental
gene therapy "vaccine" still requires people to wear a mask...maybe two..

Does this experimental gene therapy work or not?


And then there's the blood clot issue.

https://news.yahoo.com/canada-halts-...082312893.html


In that link

"a precautionary measure" due to "rare" cases of blood clots"

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 30 Mar 2021 12:21:56 +0100, Bod
wrote:

On 30/03/2021 12:10, Pinocchio Psaki wrote:
On 3/30/21 5:46 AM, wrote:
On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:28:14 PM UTC-4, Dan wrote:
https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/


WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with
corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons
admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would
be denied entrance.
Why don't you want businesses to be able to keep virus spreaders out of
their establishments?* Don't they have freedom, too?

Cindy Hamilton


According to the democrats flip-floppin virus nazi, the experimental
gene therapy "vaccine" still requires people to wear a mask...maybe two..

Does this experimental gene therapy work or not?


And then there's the blood clot issue.

https://news.yahoo.com/canada-halts-...082312893.html


In that link

"a precautionary measure" due to "rare" cases of blood clots"

I didn't read this article but I heard it was 1 out of 100,000 or 1 out
of a million. And none in North America. All in Europe. It must be
too much thrombin in your water.

"micky" wrote in message
...
In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 30 Mar 2021 12:21:56 +0100, Bod
wrote:

On 30/03/2021 12:10, Pinocchio Psaki wrote:
On 3/30/21 5:46 AM, wrote:
On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:28:14 PM UTC-4, Dan wrote:
https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/


WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with
corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons
admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would
be denied entrance.
Why don't you want businesses to be able to keep virus spreaders out of
their establishments? Don't they have freedom, too?

Cindy Hamilton


According to the democrats flip-floppin virus nazi, the experimental
gene therapy "vaccine" still requires people to wear a mask...maybe
two..

Does this experimental gene therapy work or not?


And then there's the blood clot issue.

https://news.yahoo.com/canada-halts-...082312893.html


In that link

"a precautionary measure" due to "rare" cases of blood clots"

I didn't read this article but I heard it was 1 out of 100,000

Nope.

or 1 out of a million.

Single digits out of a million.

And none in North America.

There have been a few.

All in Europe.

Nope.

It must be too much thrombin in your water.

It appears to be much more common with the AstraZeneca
which isnt used much in North America.

On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 5:46:16 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:28:14 PM UTC-4, Dan wrote:
https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/

WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would be denied entrance.
Why don't you want businesses to be able to keep virus spreaders out of
their establishments? Don't they have freedom, too?

Cindy Hamilton

Excellent point. And the freedom for those of us vaccinated to be able to go to
safe places where everyone is vaccinated.

On 3/29/2021 7:28 PM, Dan wrote:

https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/


WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with
corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons
admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would be
denied entrance.

This is horrible. Next thing you know, the administration will be
mandating voter ID.

On 3/30/2021 8:24 AM, Frank wrote:
On 3/29/2021 7:28 PM, Dan wrote:

https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/


WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with
corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons
admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would
be denied entrance.

This is horrible.Â* Next thing you know, the administration will be
mandating voter ID.

No, that is the Repubs in Georgia.

On 3/30/2021 8:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/30/2021 8:24 AM, Frank wrote:
On 3/29/2021 7:28 PM, Dan wrote:

https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/


WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with
corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons
admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would
be denied entrance.

This is horrible.Â* Next thing you know, the administration will be
mandating voter ID.

No, that is the Repubs in Georgia.

Good God Ed , you have to have ID to do so many other thing that I
think the push to eliminate ID for voting is ludicrous and downright
criminal .
--
Snag
In 1775, the British demanded we give them our guns.
We shot them.

On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 8:44:47 AM UTC-4, Snag wrote:
On 3/30/2021 8:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/30/2021 8:24 AM, Frank wrote:
On 3/29/2021 7:28 PM, Dan wrote:

https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/


WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with
corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons
admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would
be denied entrance.

This is horrible. Next thing you know, the administration will be
mandating voter ID.

No, that is the Repubs in Georgia.

Good God Ed , you have to have ID to do so many other thing that I
think the push to eliminate ID for voting is ludicrous and downright
criminal .
--
Snag
In 1775, the British demanded we give them our guns.
We shot them.

In the new GA law, it was not just requiring ID for mail-in ballots. They also
reduced ballot drop off box locations, ended early voting hours at 5PM and
made it illegal to hand out water to people standing in lines for hours to vote.
Those were not the principles of the GOP when I was a member.

And meanwhile, there is still no evidence of any widespread, significant fraud.
This is just GA GOP politicians still under fear from Trump and the Trumpets,
willing to pass anything, no matter how stupid, no matter how it makes the GOP look,
just to try to save their jobs. The governor stood up against Trump, declared that
the election was not stolen, that there was no significant fraud found. Now he
signs this bill banning handing out water. The Trump cult is still in place and
he's afraid of it.

On 3/31/2021 8:44 AM, Snag wrote:
On 3/30/2021 8:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/30/2021 8:24 AM, Frank wrote:
On 3/29/2021 7:28 PM, Dan wrote:

https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/


WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with
corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated
persons admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated
persons would be denied entrance.

This is horrible.Â* Next thing you know, the administration will be
mandating voter ID.

No, that is the Repubs in Georgia.

Â*Good God Ed , you have to have ID to do so many other thing that I
think the push to eliminate ID for voting is ludicrous and downright
criminal .

Present system has worked for 200 years, then Trump started a lot of
crap about it. It is not just an ID, it is other obstacles being put in
the way.

On 03/31/2021 07:31 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/31/2021 8:44 AM, Snag wrote:
On 3/30/2021 8:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/30/2021 8:24 AM, Frank wrote:
On 3/29/2021 7:28 PM, Dan wrote:

https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/


WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with
corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated
persons admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated
persons would be denied entrance.

This is horrible. Next thing you know, the administration will be
mandating voter ID.

No, that is the Repubs in Georgia.

Good God Ed , you have to have ID to do so many other thing that I
think the push to eliminate ID for voting is ludicrous and downright
criminal .

Present system has worked for 200 years, then Trump started a lot of
crap about it. It is not just an ID, it is other obstacles being put in
the way.

Look at it as a test of intelligence and commitment. Or do you prefer
the will of people just smart enough to check some boxes and roll out of
bed long enough to give the envelope to a vote harvester?

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 09:31:37 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 3/31/2021 8:44 AM, Snag wrote:
On 3/30/2021 8:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/30/2021 8:24 AM, Frank wrote:
On 3/29/2021 7:28 PM, Dan wrote:

https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/


WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with
corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated
persons admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated
persons would be denied entrance.

This is horrible.Â* Next thing you know, the administration will be
mandating voter ID.

No, that is the Repubs in Georgia.

Â*Good God Ed , you have to have ID to do so many other thing that I
think the push to eliminate ID for voting is ludicrous and downright
criminal .

Present system has worked for 200 years, then Trump started a lot of
crap about it. It is not just an ID, it is other obstacles being put in
the way.

Actually there are a lot of things different in just the last 20-30
years. You used to have to show up at the polls, on election day, with
ID and an absentee ballot required that you were actually unable to do
that or you perjured yourself on the application.
There was no universal mail in ballot and no early voting.
That was the way Florida was as recently as the 2000 election for
sure.
I never had anything else in Maryland. I did vote absentee once in the
military and it wasn't easy. You had to physically show up at an
election office, fill out a form and get your ballot.

Let's not pretend we are changing any long time traditions. We may be
dialing back things they put in place to increase turnout from the
lazy but I am not sure that is a good thing.
Back in the olden days politicians had to send buses after lazy
voters, drive them to the polls and give them a pack of cigarettes to
get their vote. Now they just collect their mail in ballots.

On 3/31/2021 8:44 AM, Snag wrote:
On 3/30/2021 8:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/30/2021 8:24 AM, Frank wrote:
On 3/29/2021 7:28 PM, Dan wrote:

https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/


WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with
corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated
persons admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated
persons would be denied entrance.

This is horrible.Â* Next thing you know, the administration will be
mandating voter ID.

No, that is the Repubs in Georgia.

Â*Good God Ed , you have to have ID to do so many other thing that I
think the push to eliminate ID for voting is ludicrous and downright
criminal .

I have heard that the Georgia mandate is not as strong as the one we
have here in Biden's home state of Delaware.

I have told before that twice I went to vote, once when the poll worker
was a neighbor and the other when a former coworker was the poll worker
and both said, "Hi Frank. I need to see your ID." This really happened.

Since Delaware is a blue state our politicians do not bitch about it.

On 3/30/2021 7:24 AM, Frank wrote:
On 3/29/2021 7:28 PM, Dan wrote:

https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/


WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with
corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons
admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would
be denied entrance.

This is horrible.Â* Next thing you know, the administration will be
mandating voter ID.

I know an excellent graphic artist.

--
Maggie

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:28:14 PM UTC-4, Dan wrote:
https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/

WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would be denied entrance.

"This is literally the end of human liberty in the West if this plan unfolds"

The good news there is that since it's already the end, then you won't have
to make posts about it again when Biden signs new gun control legislation.

On 3/29/2021 7:28 PM, Dan wrote:

https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/


WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with
corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons
admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would be
denied entrance.

I'm old enough to have my vaccination scar from the mandatory smallpox
vaccination I received as a young child. I'm old enough to remember
needing to pack my yellow PHS-731 International Certificates of
Vaccination card with my passport when I first traveled overseas (1967)
because many countries in western Europe (and elsewhere) denied entry to
travelers who couldn't provide proof of vaccination against smallpox.
Also at that time, the U.S. wouldn't permit re-entry of it's own
citizens if they couldn't furnish proof of smallpox vaccination. I still
have my PHS-731 and keep it in the same location as my passport when I'm
not traveling abroad. The requirement was only canceled in 1981 after
smallpox was declared eradicated by the W.H.O. Even today, many
countries require proof of vaccination against certain infectious
diseases prior to allowing entry.

Exercising our right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness may
sometimes depend upon the right to expect our government (of the people,
by the people, and FOR the people) [emphasis added] to be our advocate
in remaining alive when there's a life-threatening infectious disease
pandemic or when previously inadequate public health measures have been
proven to allow a widely endemic disease to become pandemic.

Churchill paraphrased Santayana when he said "Those who fail to learn
from history are condemned to repeat it."

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 30 Mar 2021 09:46:48 -0400, Retirednoguilt
wrote:

On 3/29/2021 7:28 PM, Dan wrote:

https://populist.press/this-is-liter...-plan-unfolds/


WATCH: Press secretary confirms that White House is working with
corporate sector to formulate 'vaccine passports'
Businesses could then use this credential to allow vaccinated persons
admittance to events and places to which non-vaccinated persons would be
denied entrance.

I'm old enough to have my vaccination scar from the mandatory smallpox
vaccination I received as a young child.

Me too, and I had the scar for a long time, but I just checked and it's
gone now.

I'm old enough to remember
needing to pack my yellow PHS-731 International Certificates of
Vaccination card with my passport when I first traveled overseas (1967)

I carried that until 2018 when it was stolen when my passport was
stolen. I mostly mind because I can't remember exactly what I got, but
I think it included vaccinations for typhus, typhoid, and yellow fever.

I also took aralen phosphate with me when I hitchhiked to Panama,
because of all the malaria there. But you had to start with that a week
in advance and I didn't, and then when I got there it looked like
Indiana. They'd told me there was no more malaria but I didn't believe
them.

Plague. I think I was vaccinated against plague too, in 1970, and I'm
still looking for a place to test it.

because many countries in western Europe (and elsewhere) denied entry to
travelers who couldn't provide proof of vaccination against smallpox.
Also at that time, the U.S. wouldn't permit re-entry of it's own
citizens if they couldn't furnish proof of smallpox vaccination. I still

I think you are older than I am, 74.

have my PHS-731 and keep it in the same location as my passport when I'm
not traveling abroad. The requirement was only canceled in 1981 after
smallpox was declared eradicated by the W.H.O. Even today, many
countries require proof of vaccination against certain infectious
diseases prior to allowing entry.

Exercising our right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness may
sometimes depend upon the right to expect our government (of the people,
by the people, and FOR the people) [emphasis added] to be our advocate
in remaining alive when there's a life-threatening infectious disease
pandemic or when previously inadequate public health measures have been
proven to allow a widely endemic disease to become pandemic.

Churchill paraphrased Santayana when he said "Those who fail to learn
from history are condemned to repeat it."

Some Americans have been spoiled by the absence of fatal contagious
diseases and they've remined too ignorant of them and too stupid to
learn.