Those Democrats sure did a good job of proving their case, putting
forth a grand slam. Some of my favorites:

Tracing that New Mexico county commissioner who formed some cowboys
for Trump group. They showed that Trump spoke with him for 30 mins on
the phone and had pictures taken with him. Last spring, that skunk made
a Youtube video where he said that the only good Democrat is a dead
Democrat. Trump re-tweeted it. (Then the Trumpets get all mad about
"censorship" when Youtube boots people like that. ) The skunk was
arrested Jan 6, part of the insurrection inside the Capitol. He's on
video after that, saying they are not done, a 2nd amendment event
is coming and there will be blood pouring down the steps. They
made it clear that Trump cultivated scum like this, the Proud Boys,
that he said there were very fine people among the crowd at the
Charlottesville that killed that young woman, a rally organized by
white supremacists and attended by the KKK, Nazis, David Duke, etc.

They showed the Proud Boys communicating their pleasure that
Trump had asked them to stand by at the debate. They knew he
was speaking to them, wanted their continued support and help.

They showed many people inside the Capitol saying they were doing
it because that's what Trump wanted them to do. They showed the
mob actively talking about finding and killing Pence, Pelosi, etc.
They showed many self-posted videos from people before the
insurrection, where they said they were Trump supporters, doing
what he wanted them to do.

They showed that when after hours Trump finally told them to stop
and go home, that message was heard and acted on inside the
Capitol. A guy is seen yelling to the mob that Trump said they should
leave now, that they had won. And that is when they did leave.

They established that Trump already had been informed that Pence
narrowly escaped, that the Capitol was under siege and shortly
after Trump tweeted another attack on Pence.

They showed how long it took before Trump put out anything at all
and then while calling for an end to violence, Trump also praised
the mob, calling them patriots, saying he loved them. After it was
all over, Trump put out another statement, basically saying that
what happened is what you get for a stolen election.

And I absolutely loved the question submitted by Collins and Murkowski.
They asked for Trump's lawyers to tell us exactly when Trump first
learned that the Capitol was under attack and what he did from then
on and to be as specific as possible. The lameo lawyer started by
talking about something in December, then something in Jan before
the attack, yammering away. He finally said, we don't know that,
because the House Democrats didn't investigate it thoroughly.
That's right, his client is the president and that was his answer.
Clearly he knows the truth and it's very, very damning for Trump.
If the truth was Trump heard about it and acted to end it, he would
have put that forth, in detail.

I see today there is now talk about calling witnesses like Kevin
McCarthy, Senator Tommy T and those that were with them that
day when they talked to Trump. People in Congress who were
there say that McCarthy told them that when he talked to Trump,
with the Capitol under siege and asked him to get them to stop,
Trump first said that he could not because they are Antifa. When
McCarthy told Trump that they were his supporters, Trump said
"well I guess they're more upset about the election than you".

And that's totally believable because it fits with all the other facts,
with what Trump did and didn't do, what he finally said, including
his message after the attack had been ended where he said
"that's what you get with a stolen election". Whether McCarthy
would have the guts to tell the truth if called, that's another
question. He already went down to Mar a Lago just a week
after the attack to pay homage and participate in the rebuilding
of Trump.

So the GOP is at an inflection point. They could finally come to
their senses, admit what Trump has done, what the whole world
saw, get together and convict him with most Republicans voting
to convict. Give him the boot. Break free and start the recovery
process. Or they can continue to follow him down the toilet,
believing that they need him, that he will help them, that they
can get him to do what they want. How's that been working so
far? WH, House and Senate lost. Even Georgia, a red state,
delivered a message to these dopes, defeating both GOP
senate candidates in what was a do over of the Trump defeat
in that state. With help like that, turning a red state blue,
who needs enemies?

On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 06:31:16 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

Those Democrats sure did a good job of proving their case, putting
forth a grand slam. Some of my favorites:

Tracing that New Mexico county commissioner who formed some cowboys
for Trump group. They showed that Trump spoke with him for 30 mins on
the phone and had pictures taken with him. Last spring, that skunk made
a Youtube video where he said that the only good Democrat is a dead
Democrat. Trump re-tweeted it. (Then the Trumpets get all mad about
"censorship" when Youtube boots people like that. ) The skunk was
arrested Jan 6, part of the insurrection inside the Capitol. He's on
video after that, saying they are not done, a 2nd amendment event
is coming and there will be blood pouring down the steps. They
made it clear that Trump cultivated scum like this, the Proud Boys,
that he said there were very fine people among the crowd at the
Charlottesville that killed that young woman, a rally organized by
white supremacists and attended by the KKK, Nazis, David Duke, etc.

They showed the Proud Boys communicating their pleasure that
Trump had asked them to stand by at the debate. They knew he
was speaking to them, wanted their continued support and help.

They showed many people inside the Capitol saying they were doing
it because that's what Trump wanted them to do. They showed the
mob actively talking about finding and killing Pence, Pelosi, etc.
They showed many self-posted videos from people before the
insurrection, where they said they were Trump supporters, doing
what he wanted them to do.

They showed that when after hours Trump finally told them to stop
and go home, that message was heard and acted on inside the
Capitol. A guy is seen yelling to the mob that Trump said they should
leave now, that they had won. And that is when they did leave.

They established that Trump already had been informed that Pence
narrowly escaped, that the Capitol was under siege and shortly
after Trump tweeted another attack on Pence.

They showed how long it took before Trump put out anything at all
and then while calling for an end to violence, Trump also praised
the mob, calling them patriots, saying he loved them. After it was
all over, Trump put out another statement, basically saying that
what happened is what you get for a stolen election.

And I absolutely loved the question submitted by Collins and Murkowski.
They asked for Trump's lawyers to tell us exactly when Trump first
learned that the Capitol was under attack and what he did from then
on and to be as specific as possible. The lameo lawyer started by
talking about something in December, then something in Jan before
the attack, yammering away. He finally said, we don't know that,
because the House Democrats didn't investigate it thoroughly.
That's right, his client is the president and that was his answer.
Clearly he knows the truth and it's very, very damning for Trump.
If the truth was Trump heard about it and acted to end it, he would
have put that forth, in detail.

I see today there is now talk about calling witnesses like Kevin
McCarthy, Senator Tommy T and those that were with them that
day when they talked to Trump. People in Congress who were
there say that McCarthy told them that when he talked to Trump,
with the Capitol under siege and asked him to get them to stop,
Trump first said that he could not because they are Antifa. When
McCarthy told Trump that they were his supporters, Trump said
"well I guess they're more upset about the election than you".

And that's totally believable because it fits with all the other facts,
with what Trump did and didn't do, what he finally said, including
his message after the attack had been ended where he said
"that's what you get with a stolen election". Whether McCarthy
would have the guts to tell the truth if called, that's another
question. He already went down to Mar a Lago just a week
after the attack to pay homage and participate in the rebuilding
of Trump.

So the GOP is at an inflection point. They could finally come to
their senses, admit what Trump has done, what the whole world
saw, get together and convict him with most Republicans voting
to convict. Give him the boot. Break free and start the recovery
process. Or they can continue to follow him down the toilet,
believing that they need him, that he will help them, that they
can get him to do what they want. How's that been working so
far? WH, House and Senate lost. Even Georgia, a red state,
delivered a message to these dopes, defeating both GOP
senate candidates in what was a do over of the Trump defeat
in that state. With help like that, turning a red state blue,
who needs enemies?


And don't forget the "Defence Team" -
I need to quote a Great British statesman :

' Never in the field of legal conflict has
so little been done
by so many
for so few. "

John T.

On 13/02/2021 15:10, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 06:31:16 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

Those Democrats sure did a good job of proving their case, putting
forth a grand slam. Some of my favorites:

Tracing that New Mexico county commissioner who formed some cowboys
for Trump group. They showed that Trump spoke with him for 30 mins on
the phone and had pictures taken with him. Last spring, that skunk made
a Youtube video where he said that the only good Democrat is a dead
Democrat. Trump re-tweeted it. (Then the Trumpets get all mad about
"censorship" when Youtube boots people like that. ) The skunk was
arrested Jan 6, part of the insurrection inside the Capitol. He's on
video after that, saying they are not done, a 2nd amendment event
is coming and there will be blood pouring down the steps. They
made it clear that Trump cultivated scum like this, the Proud Boys,
that he said there were very fine people among the crowd at the
Charlottesville that killed that young woman, a rally organized by
white supremacists and attended by the KKK, Nazis, David Duke, etc.

They showed the Proud Boys communicating their pleasure that
Trump had asked them to stand by at the debate. They knew he
was speaking to them, wanted their continued support and help.

They showed many people inside the Capitol saying they were doing
it because that's what Trump wanted them to do. They showed the
mob actively talking about finding and killing Pence, Pelosi, etc.
They showed many self-posted videos from people before the
insurrection, where they said they were Trump supporters, doing
what he wanted them to do.

They showed that when after hours Trump finally told them to stop
and go home, that message was heard and acted on inside the
Capitol. A guy is seen yelling to the mob that Trump said they should
leave now, that they had won. And that is when they did leave.

They established that Trump already had been informed that Pence
narrowly escaped, that the Capitol was under siege and shortly
after Trump tweeted another attack on Pence.

They showed how long it took before Trump put out anything at all
and then while calling for an end to violence, Trump also praised
the mob, calling them patriots, saying he loved them. After it was
all over, Trump put out another statement, basically saying that
what happened is what you get for a stolen election.

And I absolutely loved the question submitted by Collins and Murkowski.
They asked for Trump's lawyers to tell us exactly when Trump first
learned that the Capitol was under attack and what he did from then
on and to be as specific as possible. The lameo lawyer started by
talking about something in December, then something in Jan before
the attack, yammering away. He finally said, we don't know that,
because the House Democrats didn't investigate it thoroughly.
That's right, his client is the president and that was his answer.
Clearly he knows the truth and it's very, very damning for Trump.
If the truth was Trump heard about it and acted to end it, he would
have put that forth, in detail.

I see today there is now talk about calling witnesses like Kevin
McCarthy, Senator Tommy T and those that were with them that
day when they talked to Trump. People in Congress who were
there say that McCarthy told them that when he talked to Trump,
with the Capitol under siege and asked him to get them to stop,
Trump first said that he could not because they are Antifa. When
McCarthy told Trump that they were his supporters, Trump said
"well I guess they're more upset about the election than you".

And that's totally believable because it fits with all the other facts,
with what Trump did and didn't do, what he finally said, including
his message after the attack had been ended where he said
"that's what you get with a stolen election". Whether McCarthy
would have the guts to tell the truth if called, that's another
question. He already went down to Mar a Lago just a week
after the attack to pay homage and participate in the rebuilding
of Trump.

So the GOP is at an inflection point. They could finally come to
their senses, admit what Trump has done, what the whole world
saw, get together and convict him with most Republicans voting
to convict. Give him the boot. Break free and start the recovery
process. Or they can continue to follow him down the toilet,
believing that they need him, that he will help them, that they
can get him to do what they want. How's that been working so
far? WH, House and Senate lost. Even Georgia, a red state,
delivered a message to these dopes, defeating both GOP
senate candidates in what was a do over of the Trump defeat
in that state. With help like that, turning a red state blue,
who needs enemies?


And don't forget the "Defence Team" -
I need to quote a Great British statesman :

' Never in the field of legal conflict has
so little been done
by so many
for so few. "

John T.

I don't know how trumpets can look each other in the eye. They've
completely lost their integrity.
At the moment it looks irrepairable to me.
Very sad for the decent folks in America.