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Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ?
What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks |
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On 8/2/2020 8:30 PM, Sid wrote:
Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks Ask your insurance company. When they find that mess after the fire, they prolly won't pay the claim.Â* Hehehe! |
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On 8/2/20 7:30 PM, Sid wrote:
Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? Not properly. What if you doubled up each wire ? Not legal. Would that meet code ? No. what if you found one wired up that way ? Redo it with wire sized for the maximum amperage of the receptacle which is 50 amps. The one at Amazon is rated for 50 amps. Amazon says the outlet can use 4,6, and 8 copper wire. Any help appreciated. Thanks |
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On 8/2/2020 8:30 PM, Sid wrote:
Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks #10 is good for 30A and should be fused as such. Doubling up for more is a hack job. Never put more than one wire under a screw.. Do it right. Houses burn down from hack jobs. If I found one wired like that in my house I would disconnect it. |
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On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 17:30:06 -0700 (PDT), Sid
wrote: Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks Short answer no, on a couple of different counts. |
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On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote:
Can a NEMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks Found a professional electrician to pull conduit and wire up 50 amp receptacle in garage. He stated that we needed #6 wire for the two mains, but that #10 wire could be used for the ground. All could be pulled in 1/2" conduit, but the conduit would be full and any additional wires would be overfill. Not knowing the electrical code, Is this correct ? Do you guys agree ? Thanks |
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On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote:
Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks He said that 3/4" would be too hard to get around the corner ? |
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On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote:
Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks If you read the recommendations on the Tesla site they recommend 3/4" conduit and #6 wires. |
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In Dean Hoffman writes:
Code would let you down size the neutral and equipment ground a little. There's sure nothing wrong with making them bigger. 3/4" EMT would be big enough according to the first site I mentioned. Conduit fill would be just over 38%. Up to 40% is allowable. I'm afraid I don't have a copy of latest NEC at my Pandemic Safety and Secret Location, so can't double check. However, my recollection is that while a smaller neutral had been ok, this was revised a couple of years ago (which could easily be a decade by now..) so that all three wires (the two hot legs and the neutral) had to be the same size. (Not sure about the safety ground). As always, best to check with The Local Authority Having Jurisdiction. Best wishes to all. -- __________________________________________________ ___ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] |
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 11:38:42 -0500, Dean Hoffman
wrote: On 9/13/20 9:41 AM, wrote: On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote: Can a NEMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks Found a professional electrician to pull conduit and wire up 50 amp receptacle in garage. He stated that we needed #6 wire for the two mains, but that #10 wire could be used for the ground. All could be pulled in 1/2" conduit, but the conduit would be full and any additional wires would be overfill. Not knowing the electrical code, Is this correct ? Do you guys agree ? Thanks The pictures I've found show that as a 4 wire receptacle. I'm thinking you need 4 wires, not three. A rule of thumb is the neutral can be one size smaller than the two incoming hot wires which would put it at #4. So 2 #6, 1 #4, and 1 #10. http://conduitfillcalculator.com NO on the #10. See below. The equipment ground wire sizing depends on the overcurrent device used. (Circuit breaker or fuses) He's apparently going to use a 60 amp breaker. BUT., the outlets I've found specify 4,6, and 8 awg so he isn't supposed to use the #10. Here's a calculator. http://wiresizecalculator.net/calculators/groundconductor.htm Wire fill isn't supposed to exceed 40% of the conduit area. 3/4" won't quite cut it. Anyhow, I think 1" is what you should use. Wire sizing should be 2 #6, 1 #4, and 1 # 8. I'm curious what Fretwell has to say. You would need to show me a load calculation to downsize the neutral but 250.122 lets you use a #10 cu ground on a 60a circuit. Typically anything feeding a receptacle needs a full sized neutral because we don't have a clue what the user might plug in. You can get three #6s and a #10 (THHN/THWN) in 3/4" but I wouldn't want to pull it very far. If you are going around a corner, I would suggest an LB conduit body for an outside turn or an LL/LR for an inside corner. You can make the turn tighter and it gives you another pull point. |
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On 9/13/20 3:30 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 11:38:42 -0500, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 9/13/20 9:41 AM, wrote: On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote: Can a NEMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks Found a professional electrician to pull conduit and wire up 50 amp receptacle in garage. He stated that we needed #6 wire for the two mains, but that #10 wire could be used for the ground. All could be pulled in 1/2" conduit, but the conduit would be full and any additional wires would be overfill. Not knowing the electrical code, Is this correct ? Do you guys agree ? Thanks The pictures I've found show that as a 4 wire receptacle. I'm thinking you need 4 wires, not three. A rule of thumb is the neutral can be one size smaller than the two incoming hot wires which would put it at #4. So 2 #6, 1 #4, and 1 #10. http://conduitfillcalculator.com NO on the #10. See below. The equipment ground wire sizing depends on the overcurrent device used. (Circuit breaker or fuses) He's apparently going to use a 60 amp breaker. BUT., the outlets I've found specify 4,6, and 8 awg so he isn't supposed to use the #10. Here's a calculator. http://wiresizecalculator.net/calculators/groundconductor.htm Wire fill isn't supposed to exceed 40% of the conduit area. 3/4" won't quite cut it. Anyhow, I think 1" is what you should use. Wire sizing should be 2 #6, 1 #4, and 1 # 8. I'm curious what Fretwell has to say. You would need to show me a load calculation to downsize the neutral but 250.122 lets you use a #10 cu ground on a 60a circuit. Typically anything feeding a receptacle needs a full sized neutral because we don't have a clue what the user might plug in. You can get three #6s and a #10 (THHN/THWN) in 3/4" but I wouldn't want to pull it very far. If you are going around a corner, I would suggest an LB conduit body for an outside turn or an LL/LR for an inside corner. You can make the turn tighter and it gives you another pull point. Question. The receptacles I've found are sized for 4,6,and 8. Doesn't that rule out #10 as the equipment ground? |
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On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote:
Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks I thought the EMT was the ground and the receptacle required 3 #6 wires ? (2 hots and a neutral ?) This will be an inside corner and the run is not very far as the electrical panel is in the garage. Wall is not finished, but I requested the conduit be in the wall so when I do finish it, it will look nice. |
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On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote:
Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks Contractor stated that the city code would not allow 'Romex' or Flex, that's why he did not want to run through the ceiling or use something other than EMT. 4 pieces of 1/2" was already purchased, but that can be returned. |
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:08:24 -0500, Dean Hoffman
wrote: On 9/13/20 3:30 PM, wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 11:38:42 -0500, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 9/13/20 9:41 AM, wrote: On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote: Can a NEMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks Found a professional electrician to pull conduit and wire up 50 amp receptacle in garage. He stated that we needed #6 wire for the two mains, but that #10 wire could be used for the ground. All could be pulled in 1/2" conduit, but the conduit would be full and any additional wires would be overfill. Not knowing the electrical code, Is this correct ? Do you guys agree ? Thanks The pictures I've found show that as a 4 wire receptacle. I'm thinking you need 4 wires, not three. A rule of thumb is the neutral can be one size smaller than the two incoming hot wires which would put it at #4. So 2 #6, 1 #4, and 1 #10. http://conduitfillcalculator.com NO on the #10. See below. The equipment ground wire sizing depends on the overcurrent device used. (Circuit breaker or fuses) He's apparently going to use a 60 amp breaker. BUT., the outlets I've found specify 4,6, and 8 awg so he isn't supposed to use the #10. Here's a calculator. http://wiresizecalculator.net/calculators/groundconductor.htm Wire fill isn't supposed to exceed 40% of the conduit area. 3/4" won't quite cut it. Anyhow, I think 1" is what you should use. Wire sizing should be 2 #6, 1 #4, and 1 # 8. I'm curious what Fretwell has to say. You would need to show me a load calculation to downsize the neutral but 250.122 lets you use a #10 cu ground on a 60a circuit. Typically anything feeding a receptacle needs a full sized neutral because we don't have a clue what the user might plug in. You can get three #6s and a #10 (THHN/THWN) in 3/4" but I wouldn't want to pull it very far. If you are going around a corner, I would suggest an LB conduit body for an outside turn or an LL/LR for an inside corner. You can make the turn tighter and it gives you another pull point. Question. The receptacles I've found are sized for 4,6,and 8. Doesn't that rule out #10 as the equipment ground? Dunno, the Leviton I am holding says #10 - #4 on the yoke. http://gfretwell.com/electrical/50a%...ire%20size.JPG |
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 08:37:07 -0500, Dean Hoffman
wrote: On 9/13/20 8:18 PM, wrote: On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote: Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks I thought the EMT was the ground and the receptacle required 3 #6 wires ? (2 hots and a neutral ?) This will be an inside corner and the run is not very far as the electrical panel is in the garage. Wall is not finished, but I requested the conduit be in the wall so when I do finish it, it will look nice. I used to work with three phase and four wires were mandatory because of the nature of the work. We just got used to running four wires. I'd want four wires if it was mine. Two hots, a neutral, and an equipment ground. There would be only two connections for the equipment ground. EMT as the equipment ground would probably require a few connections in the equipment ground. The connections are subject to expansion and contraction due to temperature changes. The equipment ground is there mainly for safety reasons. I went back to the first site to check conduit fill. Even three #6 would need 3/4" EMT. Would flexible non metallic conduit be an option? Carflex is one brand. You would have to run four wires. Four #6 would just stay under 40% conduit fill for 3/4". Your guy might be able to put the wire in the conduit first then put the conduit in the wall. Fretwell knows the code upside down so I'm again curious what he has to say. Greenfield (Flex metal) is also a possibility Legally raceway systems are supposed to be installed empty, then you pull the wire. I am not saying I have never seen feed as you go but it isn't legal and it was on the line side of the service point so I didn't have a say in it. (service laterals run by the FPL contractor). OTOH I would really like to see someone pull wire through a carflex elbow at anywhere near the conduit limit. It is always easier to pull than push, particularly any raceway with ridges inside like FMC but it does give you a lot of flexibility in the installation. Is the OP in Chicago? That is one of the few places that don't like non-metallic wiring methods. Using EMT as the ground is legal but these days most inspectors want compression connectors made up wrench tight. Flex generally can't be used as the ground. The exception is AC cable but that has a bonding strip inside. There is also an MC cable that uses a thick aluminum bonding conductor inside. The intent is to eliminate the "choke" effect of that coiled armor. |
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On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote:
Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks Chicago: No, but I live in a suburb. Don't know why he wanted to use the 1/2". Probably because it was already on site. I will suggest using 3/4" and see what he says. I do know other people that have told me that Romex is approved in this area. May not be a great idea for wiring up a Tesla ? |
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On 8/2/20 7:30 PM, Sid wrote:
Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks Just playing devil's advocate. Is there something else you might want 220 vac for close to that spot? Welder? What does a charger for a battery lawn mower need? Something you'll wish for right after that wall is closed? There must be some kind of law about such things. The I wish I woulda.....................................rule. |
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:40:47 -0500, Dean Hoffman
wrote: On 8/2/20 7:30 PM, Sid wrote: Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks Just playing devil's advocate. Is there something else you might want 220 vac for close to that spot? Welder? What does a charger for a battery lawn mower need? Something you'll wish for right after that wall is closed? There must be some kind of law about such things. The I wish I woulda.....................................rule. If it is a receptacle, you can plug anything in. That is why we like full size conductors. |
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On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 9:18:30 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote: Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks I thought the EMT was the ground and the receptacle required 3 #6 wires ? (2 hots and a neutral ?) This will be an inside corner and the run is not very far as the electrical panel is in the garage. Wall is not finished, but I requested the conduit be in the wall so when I do finish it, it will look nice. EMT can be the ground, but for most residential work, at least around here, PVC is typically used, for obvious reasons. For a short, easy run in the garage EMT sounds fine. Pitty the Tesla crowd with a panel on the opposite side of the house. |
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On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote:
Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks I ask the contractor about using 3/4" conduit and he stated that the radius was too big to hide in the wall. He said he may use 3/4" but use a 1/2" piece to get around the corner. |
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On 09/18/2020 10:26 AM, wrote:
On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote: Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks I ask the contractor about using 3/4" conduit and he stated that the radius was too big to hide in the wall. He said he may use 3/4" but use a 1/2" piece to get around the corner. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Halex-3-...4107/100136138 I'd find another contractor. |
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On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 18:42:17 -0600, rbowman
wrote: On 09/18/2020 10:26 AM, wrote: On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote: Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks I ask the contractor about using 3/4" conduit and he stated that the radius was too big to hide in the wall. He said he may use 3/4" but use a 1/2" piece to get around the corner. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Halex-3-...4107/100136138 I'd find another contractor. That works if you can get to the hole (outside corner) but it isn't legal to bury it in the wall. If you never thought you would want to pull the wire out, it isn't necessarily unsafe but just not legal. |
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On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 8:10:09 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 09:26:42 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote: Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks I ask the contractor about using 3/4" conduit and he stated that the radius was too big to hide in the wall. He said he may use 3/4" but use a 1/2" piece to get around the corner. The 90 is the hard part to pull through. But it's a short run from a panel in the garage to a receptacle for his Tesla and the contractor is going to do it. If he's got an agreed price, it's the contractor's chore to deal with it. You really should be sure you can't just use a cable wiring method. Maybe you should talk to another contractor. Unless local code prohibits it, I agree. Faster, easier, cheaper. |
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On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 04:44:51 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote: On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 8:10:09 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 09:26:42 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote: Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks I ask the contractor about using 3/4" conduit and he stated that the radius was too big to hide in the wall. He said he may use 3/4" but use a 1/2" piece to get around the corner. The 90 is the hard part to pull through. But it's a short run from a panel in the garage to a receptacle for his Tesla and the contractor is going to do it. If he's got an agreed price, it's the contractor's chore to deal with it. If you are tossing the code, just use one of those pull elbows Bowman linked and use the bigger pipe. You really should be sure you can't just use a cable wiring method. Maybe you should talk to another contractor. Unless local code prohibits it, I agree. Faster, easier, cheaper. It is worth looking into because I think everywhere but downtown Chicago has tossed the "metal only" rules |
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On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 2:20:57 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 13:16:26 -0500, dpb wrote: On 9/18/2020 11:26 AM, wrote: On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote: Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks I ask the contractor about using 3/4" conduit and he stated that the radius was too big to hide in the wall. He said he may use 3/4" but use a 1/2" piece to get around the corner. Call your local building inspector office and check that you can't just run Romex... Then you'll know if the contractor is just stuck in old Chicago or your jurisdiction hasn't changed to match the times yet, either. I'd guess odds are 50:50 it would meet your locality's code and eliminate all the hassle. Or, if it's so difficult a run to make a bend in the wall (and I can't see why that should be so -- he might have to make a bigger hole to feed one end through a joist if it won't fit in one 16" joist bay, but that shouldn't be any big deal), just do the overhead to the joist cavity that wants to hit and come in the top of the box and the elbow is above or could use the pull box in the attic in Code as wouldn't be covered there. But, going Romex is the smart thing to do -- check with your municipality to find out what the pertinent Code really is. Or "BX" if protection is rerquired? The work was supposed to be done this wknd, but the contractor called on the day of and said he had a family emergency. If we start having problems like that , I will look around for another contractor. The corner is an inside corner. Here is a pic from Menards: https://www.menards.com/main/electri...4430897073.htm Thanks |
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On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 9:34:14 PM UTC-5, Eli Sidwell wrote:
On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 2:20:57 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 13:16:26 -0500, dpb wrote: On 9/18/2020 11:26 AM, wrote: On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote: Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks I ask the contractor about using 3/4" conduit and he stated that the radius was too big to hide in the wall. He said he may use 3/4" but use a 1/2" piece to get around the corner. Call your local building inspector office and check that you can't just run Romex... Then you'll know if the contractor is just stuck in old Chicago or your jurisdiction hasn't changed to match the times yet, either. I'd guess odds are 50:50 it would meet your locality's code and eliminate all the hassle. Or, if it's so difficult a run to make a bend in the wall (and I can't see why that should be so -- he might have to make a bigger hole to feed one end through a joist if it won't fit in one 16" joist bay, but that shouldn't be any big deal), just do the overhead to the joist cavity that wants to hit and come in the top of the box and the elbow is above or could use the pull box in the attic in Code as wouldn't be covered there. But, going Romex is the smart thing to do -- check with your municipality to find out what the pertinent Code really is. Or "BX" if protection is rerquired? The work was supposed to be done this wknd, but the contractor called on the day of and said he had a family emergency. If we start having problems like that , I will look around for another contractor. The corner is an inside corner. Here is a pic from Menards: https://www.menards.com/main/electri...4430897073.htm Thanks Here is the HD link: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Halex-3-...4607/100210850 |
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On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 9:34:14 PM UTC-5, Eli Sidwell wrote: On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 2:20:57 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 13:16:26 -0500, dpb wrote: On 9/18/2020 11:26 AM, wrote: On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote: Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks I ask the contractor about using 3/4" conduit and he stated that the radius was too big to hide in the wall. He said he may use 3/4" but use a 1/2" piece to get around the corner. Call your local building inspector office and check that you can't just run Romex... Then you'll know if the contractor is just stuck in old Chicago or your jurisdiction hasn't changed to match the times yet, either. I'd guess odds are 50:50 it would meet your locality's code and eliminate all the hassle. Or, if it's so difficult a run to make a bend in the wall (and I can't see why that should be so -- he might have to make a bigger hole to feed one end through a joist if it won't fit in one 16" joist bay, but that shouldn't be any big deal), just do the overhead to the joist cavity that wants to hit and come in the top of the box and the elbow is above or could use the pull box in the attic in Code as wouldn't be covered there. But, going Romex is the smart thing to do -- check with your municipality to find out what the pertinent Code really is. Or "BX" if protection is rerquired? The work was supposed to be done this wknd, but the contractor called on the day of and said he had a family emergency. If we start having problems like that , I will look around for another contractor. The corner is an inside corner. Here is a pic from Menards: https://www.menards.com/main/electri...4430897073.htm Thanks Here is the HD link: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Halex-3-...4607/100210850 I got a text from my tenant on Friday stating the receptacle was in and working. Contractor stated that he only needed 2 #6 wires and use the conduit as a ground for the ground and neutral. Don't know I have not seen it yet. May end up ripping it out and re-doing it myself. Any thoughts ? |
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On 10/11/20 12:52 AM, Eli Sidwell Iii wrote:
On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 9:34:14 PM UTC-5, Eli Sidwell wrote: On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 2:20:57 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 13:16:26 -0500, dpb wrote: On 9/18/2020 11:26 AM, wrote: On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-5, Sid wrote: Can a NIMA 14-50 receptacle be wired up with #10 wire ? What if you doubled up each wire ? Would that meet code ? what if you found one wired up that way ? Any help appreciated. Thanks I ask the contractor about using 3/4" conduit and he stated that the radius was too big to hide in the wall. He said he may use 3/4" but use a 1/2" piece to get around the corner. Call your local building inspector office and check that you can't just run Romex... Then you'll know if the contractor is just stuck in old Chicago or your jurisdiction hasn't changed to match the times yet, either. I'd guess odds are 50:50 it would meet your locality's code and eliminate all the hassle. Or, if it's so difficult a run to make a bend in the wall (and I can't see why that should be so -- he might have to make a bigger hole to feed one end through a joist if it won't fit in one 16" joist bay, but that shouldn't be any big deal), just do the overhead to the joist cavity that wants to hit and come in the top of the box and the elbow is above or could use the pull box in the attic in Code as wouldn't be covered there. But, going Romex is the smart thing to do -- check with your municipality to find out what the pertinent Code really is. Or "BX" if protection is rerquired? The work was supposed to be done this wknd, but the contractor called on the day of and said he had a family emergency. If we start having problems like that , I will look around for another contractor. The corner is an inside corner. Here is a pic from Menards: https://www.menards.com/main/electri...4430897073.htm Thanks Here is the HD link: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Halex-3-...4607/100210850 I got a text from my tenant on Friday stating the receptacle was in and working. Contractor stated that he only needed 2 #6 wires and use the conduit as a ground for the ground and neutral. Don't know I have not seen it yet. May end up ripping it out and re-doing it myself. Any thoughts ? There's at least a possibility that the conduit will be routinely carrying current. The elbow isn't threaded. That would make it easier to get a bad connection. I'd vote no. I'm curious what Fretwell has to say. |
NIMA 14-50
On 10/11/20 1:52 AM, Eli Sidwell Iii wrote:
Contractor stated that he only needed 2 #6 wires and use the conduit as a ground for the ground and neutral. Using the conduit as a neutral is dangerous.Â* I'd fire that clowntractor and do it right. |
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