Got a tight fit 90 bend to oil cooler from engine block on little JD
utility tractor. It's 1/2" heater hose; about 6" overall length.

JD shows nobody w/ the original part no in stock; can't find a local
source for a preformed 1/2" hose; regular hose collapses making the bend.

Tried adding an elbow; extra length of the elbow itself too long to make
the corner--the ends of two connections aren't but 1/2" or so from end
of one to centerline of other...

Clare -- any ideas how to preform a chunk or keep from collapsing? I've
never run in to such a tight spot before couldn't manage something...out
of ideas at the moment.

--

On 7/10/2020 3:20 PM, dpb wrote:
Got a tight fit 90 bend to oil cooler from engine block on little JD
utility tractor. It's 1/2" heater hose; about 6" overall length.

JD shows nobody w/ the original part no in stock; can't find a local
source for a preformed 1/2" hose; regular hose collapses making the bend.

Tried adding an elbow; extra length of the elbow itself too long to make
the corner--the ends of two connections aren't but 1/2" or so from end
of one to centerline of other...

Clare -- any ideas how to preform a chunk or keep from collapsing?Â* I've
never run in to such a tight spot before couldn't manage something...out
of ideas at the moment.

--

Wrap it with #12 copper wire with maybe 1/4" or a little less per wrap.

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 10 Jul 2020 17:20:56 -0500, dpb
wrote:

Got a tight fit 90 bend to oil cooler from engine block on little JD
utility tractor. It's 1/2" heater hose; about 6" overall length.

JD shows nobody w/ the original part no in stock; can't find a local
source for a preformed 1/2" hose; regular hose collapses making the bend.

Tried adding an elbow; extra length of the elbow itself too long to make
the corner--the ends of two connections aren't but 1/2" or so from end
of one to centerline of other...

Clare -- any ideas how to preform a chunk or keep from collapsing? I've
never run in to such a tight spot before couldn't manage something...out
of ideas at the moment.

Any way to put a spring inside the hose? Many sizes for sale but could
wind it yourself.

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 17:20:56 -0500, dpb wrote:

Got a tight fit 90 bend to oil cooler from engine block on little JD
utility tractor. It's 1/2" heater hose; about 6" overall length.

JD shows nobody w/ the original part no in stock; can't find a local
source for a preformed 1/2" hose; regular hose collapses making the bend.

Tried adding an elbow; extra length of the elbow itself too long to make
the corner--the ends of two connections aren't but 1/2" or so from end
of one to centerline of other...

Clare -- any ideas how to preform a chunk or keep from collapsing? I've
never run in to such a tight spot before couldn't manage something...out
of ideas at the moment.

A couple times I needed preformed I didn't have I asked the auto parts guy to look for a
match of the turn on a different hose, then I cut off what's not needed. Both times I paid
more than if they had the correct hose, but it was worth my time.

On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 6:21:01 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
Got a tight fit 90 bend to oil cooler from engine block on little JD
utility tractor. It's 1/2" heater hose; about 6" overall length.

JD shows nobody w/ the original part no in stock; can't find a local
source for a preformed 1/2" hose; regular hose collapses making the bend.

Tried adding an elbow; extra length of the elbow itself too long to make
the corner--the ends of two connections aren't but 1/2" or so from end
of one to centerline of other...

Clare -- any ideas how to preform a chunk or keep from collapsing? I've
never run in to such a tight spot before couldn't manage something...out
of ideas at the moment.

--

IDK how to make a sharp bend, but since this goes to an oil cooler,
I don't think you really want heater hose, you need something rated for
oil. Did you ask the auto parts store what the most flexible hose they
have is for oil? If so, how about a shop that does hydraulic lines
and similar?

On 7/10/2020 6:33 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 6:21:01 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
Got a tight fit 90 bend to oil cooler from engine block on little JD
utility tractor. It's 1/2" heater hose; about 6" overall length.

JD shows nobody w/ the original part no in stock; can't find a local
source for a preformed 1/2" hose; regular hose collapses making the bend.

Tried adding an elbow; extra length of the elbow itself too long to make
the corner--the ends of two connections aren't but 1/2" or so from end
of one to centerline of other...

Clare -- any ideas how to preform a chunk or keep from collapsing? I've
never run in to such a tight spot before couldn't manage something...out
of ideas at the moment.

--

IDK how to make a sharp bend, but since this goes to an oil cooler,
I don't think you really want heater hose, you need something rated for
oil. Did you ask the auto parts store what the most flexible hose they
have is for oil? If so, how about a shop that does hydraulic lines
and similar?

This is the water line for the cooler so the heater hose is the material.

The cooler is actually the base of the oil filter; oil all stays inside
it, water runs through a channel inside some (can't see anything except
the inlet/outlets so not really possible to know just what the internal
coolant path is).

--

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 18:12:28 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 17:20:56 -0500, dpb wrote:

Got a tight fit 90 bend to oil cooler from engine block on little JD
utility tractor. It's 1/2" heater hose; about 6" overall length.

JD shows nobody w/ the original part no in stock; can't find a local
source for a preformed 1/2" hose; regular hose collapses making the bend.

Tried adding an elbow; extra length of the elbow itself too long to make
the corner--the ends of two connections aren't but 1/2" or so from end
of one to centerline of other...

Clare -- any ideas how to preform a chunk or keep from collapsing? I've
never run in to such a tight spot before couldn't manage something...out
of ideas at the moment.

A couple times I needed preformed I didn't have I asked the auto parts guy to look for a
match of the turn on a different hose, then I cut off what's not needed. Both times I paid
more than if they had the correct hose, but it was worth my time.
That would be my solution -

On 7/10/20 5:20 PM, dpb wrote:
Got a tight fit 90 bend to oil cooler from engine block on little JD
utility tractor. It's 1/2" heater hose; about 6" overall length.

JD shows nobody w/ the original part no in stock; can't find a local
source for a preformed 1/2" hose; regular hose collapses making the bend.

Tried adding an elbow; extra length of the elbow itself too long to make
the corner--the ends of two connections aren't but 1/2" or so from end
of one to centerline of other...

Clare -- any ideas how to preform a chunk or keep from collapsing?Â* I've
never run in to such a tight spot before couldn't manage something...out
of ideas at the moment.

--

https://www.jegs.com/p/Gates/Gates-Molded-Heater-Hoses/1571521/10002/-1

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 19:23:25 -0500, dpb wrote:

On 7/10/2020 6:33 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 6:21:01 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
Got a tight fit 90 bend to oil cooler from engine block on little JD
utility tractor. It's 1/2" heater hose; about 6" overall length.

JD shows nobody w/ the original part no in stock; can't find a local
source for a preformed 1/2" hose; regular hose collapses making the bend.

Tried adding an elbow; extra length of the elbow itself too long to make
the corner--the ends of two connections aren't but 1/2" or so from end
of one to centerline of other...

Clare -- any ideas how to preform a chunk or keep from collapsing? I've
never run in to such a tight spot before couldn't manage something...out
of ideas at the moment.

--


Midel of the tractor? Picture? I'm thinking a bypass hose from some
obscure GM car -
Amazon has one at
https://www.amazon.ca/HPS-Silicone-H..._id=9163168011
Call your auto supply stire and ask for a Dayco 80393 - a 394, 395,
396, 0or 397 will also work but with more waste. The 80393 is only $4
and change from Rock Auto (They show only 1 in stock) About $10 at
advanced auto parts or CarQuest


IDK how to make a sharp bend, but since this goes to an oil cooler,
I don't think you really want heater hose, you need something rated for
oil. Did you ask the auto parts store what the most flexible hose they
have is for oil? If so, how about a shop that does hydraulic lines
and similar?

This is the water line for the cooler so the heater hose is the material.

The cooler is actually the base of the oil filter; oil all stays inside
it, water runs through a channel inside some (can't see anything except
the inlet/outlets so not really possible to know just what the internal
coolant path is).

On 7/10/2020 5:20 PM, dpb wrote:
Got a tight fit 90 bend to oil cooler from engine block on little JD
utility tractor. It's 1/2" heater hose; about 6" overall length.

JD shows nobody w/ the original part no in stock; can't find a local
source for a preformed 1/2" hose; regular hose collapses making the bend.

Tried adding an elbow; extra length of the elbow itself too long to make
the corner--the ends of two connections aren't but 1/2" or so from end
of one to centerline of other...

Clare -- any ideas how to preform a chunk or keep from collapsing?Â* I've
never run in to such a tight spot before couldn't manage something...out
of ideas at the moment.


Thanks, guys...I'd've tried the replacement idea and cut off ends except
there's not a single auto parts place in town that has a klew if they
can't punch in a vehicle...and getting even the NAPA guys to let you
just go rummage is getting harder and harder.

But, I did come up w/ a workaround -- used another hose clamp in the
middle of the bend in lieu of the wound spring idea--served the same
purpose.

I tried to find the JD picture parts page but they've screwed up the
link to it to where couldn't ever get to the mechanicals section...

The block connection is right at the firewall; can only get to the hose
clamp with an open-end 5/16 wrench and then only a 1/8-th turn per grab.
Takes long time to tighten a clamp at that rate...

The front end is on the cooler at base of oil filter-- it wouldn't be
too bad to get to but the dip stick tube is directly in front of where
the clamp needs to be to sit over the expansion knob and there's not
enough clearance to get to it if face it up or down instead of out...so
the wrench again. Altho can get almost a quarter-turn on it.

But, hopefully it won't be pouring oil out -- both the o-rings in
between the cooler and the block facing had hardened and actually
broken--that's a rarity in my experience as well; they'll get to where
don't hold but rarely have found one actually broken.

--

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 18:12:28 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 17:20:56 -0500, dpb wrote:

Got a tight fit 90 bend to oil cooler from engine block on little JD
utility tractor. It's 1/2" heater hose; about 6" overall length.

JD shows nobody w/ the original part no in stock; can't find a local
source for a preformed 1/2" hose; regular hose collapses making the bend.

Tried adding an elbow; extra length of the elbow itself too long to make
the corner--the ends of two connections aren't but 1/2" or so from end
of one to centerline of other...

Clare -- any ideas how to preform a chunk or keep from collapsing? I've
never run in to such a tight spot before couldn't manage something...out
of ideas at the moment.

A couple times I needed preformed I didn't have I asked the auto parts guy to look for a
match of the turn on a different hose, then I cut off what's not needed. Both times I paid
more than if they had the correct hose, but it was worth my time.

That has worked for me too.

On 7/10/2020 5:20 PM, dpb wrote:
Got a tight fit 90 bend to oil cooler from engine block on little JD
utility tractor. It's 1/2" heater hose; about 6" overall length.
....

Got the sucker back together this AM...no oil leaks!!!

Now if can just stop the leak on the fuel bowl...new o-ring for it
didn't seem to completely cure the problem. Too hot to do anything more
until evening now, however...

HI(99,69)
105.7


and not a breath of air...

--

On 7/11/2020 2:14 PM, dpb wrote:
On 7/10/2020 5:20 PM, dpb wrote:
Got a tight fit 90 bend to oil cooler from engine block on little JD
utility tractor. It's 1/2" heater hose; about 6" overall length.
...

Got the sucker back together this AM...no oil leaks!!!

Now if can just stop the leak on the fuel bowl...new o-ring for it
didn't seem to completely cure the problem.Â* Too hot to do anything more
until evening now, however...

HI(99,69)
105.7


and not a breath of air...

HI(102,68)
108.6


--

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 11 Jul 2020 14:14:42 -0500, dpb
wrote:

On 7/10/2020 5:20 PM, dpb wrote:
Got a tight fit 90 bend to oil cooler from engine block on little JD
utility tractor. It's 1/2" heater hose; about 6" overall length.
...

Got the sucker back together this AM...no oil leaks!!!

Now if can just stop the leak on the fuel bowl...new o-ring for it
didn't seem to completely cure the problem. Too hot to do anything more
until evening now, however...

HI(99,69)
105.7


and not a breath of air...

Where do you live?

On 7/11/2020 7:03 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 11 Jul 2020 14:14:42 -0500, dpb
wrote:

On 7/10/2020 5:20 PM, dpb wrote:
Got a tight fit 90 bend to oil cooler from engine block on little JD
utility tractor. It's 1/2" heater hose; about 6" overall length.
...

Got the sucker back together this AM...no oil leaks!!!

Now if can just stop the leak on the fuel bowl...new o-ring for it
didn't seem to completely cure the problem. Too hot to do anything more
until evening now, however...

HI(99,69)
105.7


and not a breath of air...

Where do you live?

Far SW KS...

It's down in temp but dewpoint has risen...

HI(98,72)
107.5


There is at least a little breeze now...can see some decent t-storms S
on the OK/TX border but that's wrong way for us...

--

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 19:23:43 -0500, dpb wrote:

On 7/11/2020 7:03 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 11 Jul 2020 14:14:42 -0500, dpb
wrote:

On 7/10/2020 5:20 PM, dpb wrote:
Got a tight fit 90 bend to oil cooler from engine block on little JD
utility tractor. It's 1/2" heater hose; about 6" overall length.
...

Got the sucker back together this AM...no oil leaks!!!

Now if can just stop the leak on the fuel bowl...new o-ring for it
didn't seem to completely cure the problem. Too hot to do anything more
until evening now, however...

HI(99,69)
105.7


and not a breath of air...

Where do you live?

Far SW KS...

It's down in temp but dewpoint has risen...

HI(98,72)
107.5


There is at least a little breeze now...can see some decent t-storms S
on the OK/TX border but that's wrong way for us...
10 successive days over 30C here in Central Ontario - Humidex up on
the 39-42 range. (that almost 90F and 107F)