I bought a gallon of low splash bleach about a year ago.

It was very viscous then.

Now it is very watery and the bleach smell is almost gone.

Does that version attract water over time?

Andy

On 6/1/2020 3:43 PM, Andy wrote:
I bought a gallon of low splash bleach about a year ago.

It was very viscous then.

Now it is very watery and the bleach smell is almost gone.

Does that version attract water over time?

Andy


Bleach does weaken over time.

"Bleach can expire. After a shelf life of six months, bleach starts to
degrade. Even in its original bottle, bleach becomes 20 percent less
effective as each year goes by. Bleach mixed with water at a 1:9 ratio
(i.e. 10 percent bleach) is potent for about a day (it's more unstable
in its diluted form)."

On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 16:21:36 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 6/1/2020 3:43 PM, Andy wrote:
I bought a gallon of low splash bleach about a year ago.

It was very viscous then.

Now it is very watery and the bleach smell is almost gone.

Does that version attract water over time?

Andy


Bleach does weaken over time.

"Bleach can expire. After a shelf life of six months, bleach starts to
degrade. Even in its original bottle, bleach becomes 20 percent less
effective as each year goes by. Bleach mixed with water at a 1:9 ratio
(i.e. 10 percent bleach) is potent for about a day (it's more unstable
in its diluted form)."

You find that out real fast if you have a pool or a spa.
You even notice the concentrates break down pretty quick

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 6:21:16 PM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
On 6/1/2020 3:43 PM, Andy wrote:
I bought a gallon of low splash bleach about a year ago.

It was very viscous then.

Now it is very watery and the bleach smell is almost gone.

Does that version attract water over time?

Andy


Bleach does weaken over time.

"Bleach can expire. After a shelf life of six months, bleach starts to
degrade. Even in its original bottle, bleach becomes 20 percent less
effective as each year goes by. Bleach mixed with water at a 1:9 ratio
(i.e. 10 percent bleach) is potent for about a day (it's more unstable
in its diluted form)."

After my post, I found out that the low splash bleach has a bunch of detergent mixed in it and is only about 2% bleach as opposed to regular bleaches 6% hypochlorite.

After no needing paper towels for 4 months, I as surprised that paper towels are running $1 a roll.

And you don't save any buying the larger number of rolls.

Andy

"Bob F" wrote in message
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On 6/1/2020 3:43 PM, Andy wrote:
I bought a gallon of low splash bleach about a year ago.

It was very viscous then.

Now it is very watery and the bleach smell is almost gone.

Does that version attract water over time?

Bleach does weaken over time.

"Bleach can expire. After a shelf life of six months, bleach starts to
degrade.

In fact it starts to degrade as soon as its made.

Even in its original bottle, bleach becomes 20 percent less effective as
each year goes by. Bleach mixed with water at a 1:9 ratio (i.e. 10 percent
bleach) is potent for about a day

Thats wrong too.

(it's more unstable in its diluted form)."

Everything you buy is in a diluted form.

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In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 1 Jun 2020 20:08:24 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote:

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 6:21:16 PM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
On 6/1/2020 3:43 PM, Andy wrote:
I bought a gallon of low splash bleach about a year ago.

It was very viscous then.

Now it is very watery and the bleach smell is almost gone.

Does that version attract water over time?

Andy

sci.chem is still very active.


Bleach does weaken over time.

"Bleach can expire. After a shelf life of six months, bleach starts to
degrade. Even in its original bottle, bleach becomes 20 percent less
effective as each year goes by. Bleach mixed with water at a 1:9 ratio
(i.e. 10 percent bleach) is potent for about a day (it's more unstable
in its diluted form)."

So I shouldn't have high hopes for the bleach I bought 20 years ago?
At 10% a year for 20 years, it should be -100% effective, so it will
make the clothes darker, maybe dirtier.

After my post, I found out that the low splash bleach has a bunch of detergent mixed in it and is only about 2% bleach as opposed to regular bleaches 6% hypochlorite.

After no needing paper towels for 4 months, I as surprised that paper towels are running $1 a roll.

What did they used to be?


And you don't save any buying the larger number of rolls.

Andy

micky writes:

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 1 Jun 2020 20:08:24 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote:

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 6:21:16 PM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
On 6/1/2020 3:43 PM, Andy wrote:
I bought a gallon of low splash bleach about a year ago.

It was very viscous then.

Now it is very watery and the bleach smell is almost gone.

Does that version attract water over time?

Andy

sci.chem is still very active.


Bleach does weaken over time.

"Bleach can expire. After a shelf life of six months, bleach starts to
degrade. Even in its original bottle, bleach becomes 20 percent less
effective as each year goes by. Bleach mixed with water at a 1:9 ratio
(i.e. 10 percent bleach) is potent for about a day (it's more unstable
in its diluted form)."

So I shouldn't have high hopes for the bleach I bought 20 years ago?
At 10% a year for 20 years, it should be -100% effective, so it will
make the clothes darker, maybe dirtier.

Someone doesn't know how percentages work.

I know you were trying to be funny, but math illiteracy isn't really
that funny.

--
Dan Espen

Dan Espen submitted this idea :
micky writes:

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 1 Jun 2020 20:08:24 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote:

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 6:21:16 PM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
On 6/1/2020 3:43 PM, Andy wrote:
I bought a gallon of low splash bleach about a year ago.

It was very viscous then.

Now it is very watery and the bleach smell is almost gone.

Does that version attract water over time?

Andy

sci.chem is still very active.


Bleach does weaken over time.

"Bleach can expire. After a shelf life of six months, bleach starts to
degrade. Even in its original bottle, bleach becomes 20 percent less
effective as each year goes by. Bleach mixed with water at a 1:9 ratio
(i.e. 10 percent bleach) is potent for about a day (it's more unstable
in its diluted form)."

So I shouldn't have high hopes for the bleach I bought 20 years ago?
At 10% a year for 20 years, it should be -100% effective, so it will
make the clothes darker, maybe dirtier.

Someone doesn't know how percentages work.

I know you were trying to be funny, but math illiteracy isn't really
that funny.

Of course at ten percent per, it would remain somewhat effective
forever.

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 2:32:27 PM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:
Dan Espen submitted this idea :
micky writes:

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 1 Jun 2020 20:08:24 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote:

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 6:21:16 PM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
On 6/1/2020 3:43 PM, Andy wrote:
I bought a gallon of low splash bleach about a year ago.

It was very viscous then.

Now it is very watery and the bleach smell is almost gone.

Does that version attract water over time?

Andy

sci.chem is still very active.


Bleach does weaken over time.

"Bleach can expire. After a shelf life of six months, bleach starts to
degrade. Even in its original bottle, bleach becomes 20 percent less
effective as each year goes by. Bleach mixed with water at a 1:9 ratio
(i.e. 10 percent bleach) is potent for about a day (it's more unstable
in its diluted form)."

So I shouldn't have high hopes for the bleach I bought 20 years ago?
At 10% a year for 20 years, it should be -100% effective, so it will
make the clothes darker, maybe dirtier.

Someone doesn't know how percentages work.

I know you were trying to be funny, but math illiteracy isn't really
that funny.

Of course at ten percent per, it would remain somewhat effective
forever.

That reminds me of a joke.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/2ijugj/a_mathematician_and_an_engineer_agree_to_a/

Cindy Hamilton

FromTheRafters writes:

Dan Espen submitted this idea :
micky writes:

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 1 Jun 2020 20:08:24 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote:

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 6:21:16 PM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
On 6/1/2020 3:43 PM, Andy wrote:
I bought a gallon of low splash bleach about a year ago.

It was very viscous then.

Now it is very watery and the bleach smell is almost gone.

Does that version attract water over time?

Andy

sci.chem is still very active.


Bleach does weaken over time.

"Bleach can expire. After a shelf life of six months, bleach
starts to degrade. Even in its original bottle, bleach becomes 20
percent less effective as each year goes by. Bleach mixed with
water at a 1:9 ratio (i.e. 10 percent bleach) is potent for about
a day (it's more unstable in its diluted form)."

So I shouldn't have high hopes for the bleach I bought 20 years ago?
At 10% a year for 20 years, it should be -100% effective, so it will
make the clothes darker, maybe dirtier.

Someone doesn't know how percentages work.

I know you were trying to be funny, but math illiteracy isn't really
that funny.

Of course at ten percent per, it would remain somewhat effective
forever.

Given that the number of molecules in a container is finite,
that would be just short of forever.

--
Dan Espen

Dan Espen was thinking very hard :
FromTheRafters writes:

Dan Espen submitted this idea :
micky writes:

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 1 Jun 2020 20:08:24 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote:

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 6:21:16 PM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
On 6/1/2020 3:43 PM, Andy wrote:
I bought a gallon of low splash bleach about a year ago.

It was very viscous then.

Now it is very watery and the bleach smell is almost gone.

Does that version attract water over time?

Andy

sci.chem is still very active.


Bleach does weaken over time.

"Bleach can expire. After a shelf life of six months, bleach
starts to degrade. Even in its original bottle, bleach becomes 20
percent less effective as each year goes by. Bleach mixed with
water at a 1:9 ratio (i.e. 10 percent bleach) is potent for about
a day (it's more unstable in its diluted form)."

So I shouldn't have high hopes for the bleach I bought 20 years ago?
At 10% a year for 20 years, it should be -100% effective, so it will
make the clothes darker, maybe dirtier.

Someone doesn't know how percentages work.

I know you were trying to be funny, but math illiteracy isn't really
that funny.

Of course at ten percent per, it would remain somewhat effective
forever.

Given that the number of molecules in a container is finite,
that would be just short of forever.

Interesting, how long would it take to get to the last few effective
molecules which can't be decimated? Would they remain effective? If so,
how long?

"FromTheRafters" wrote in message
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Dan Espen was thinking very hard :
FromTheRafters writes:

Dan Espen submitted this idea :
micky writes:

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 1 Jun 2020 20:08:24 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote:

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 6:21:16 PM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
On 6/1/2020 3:43 PM, Andy wrote:
I bought a gallon of low splash bleach about a year ago.

It was very viscous then.

Now it is very watery and the bleach smell is almost gone.

Does that version attract water over time?

Andy

sci.chem is still very active.

Bleach does weaken over time.

"Bleach can expire. After a shelf life of six months, bleach
starts to degrade. Even in its original bottle, bleach becomes 20
percent less effective as each year goes by. Bleach mixed with
water at a 1:9 ratio (i.e. 10 percent bleach) is potent for about
a day (it's more unstable in its diluted form)."

So I shouldn't have high hopes for the bleach I bought 20 years ago?
At 10% a year for 20 years, it should be -100% effective, so it will
make the clothes darker, maybe dirtier.

Someone doesn't know how percentages work.

I know you were trying to be funny, but math illiteracy isn't really
that funny.

Of course at ten percent per, it would remain somewhat effective
forever.

Given that the number of molecules in a container is finite,
that would be just short of forever.

Interesting, how long would it take to get to the last few effective
molecules which can't be decimated? Would they remain effective?

Nope, they all break down eventually, its that unstable.

If so, how long?

Varys with the temperature etc.

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FromTheRafters writes:

Dan Espen was thinking very hard :
FromTheRafters writes:

Dan Espen submitted this idea :
micky writes:

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 1 Jun 2020 20:08:24 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote:

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 6:21:16 PM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
On 6/1/2020 3:43 PM, Andy wrote:
I bought a gallon of low splash bleach about a year ago.

It was very viscous then.

Now it is very watery and the bleach smell is almost gone.

Does that version attract water over time?

Andy

sci.chem is still very active.


Bleach does weaken over time.

"Bleach can expire. After a shelf life of six months, bleach
starts to degrade. Even in its original bottle, bleach becomes 20
percent less effective as each year goes by. Bleach mixed with
water at a 1:9 ratio (i.e. 10 percent bleach) is potent for about
a day (it's more unstable in its diluted form)."

So I shouldn't have high hopes for the bleach I bought 20 years ago?
At 10% a year for 20 years, it should be -100% effective, so it will
make the clothes darker, maybe dirtier.

Someone doesn't know how percentages work.

I know you were trying to be funny, but math illiteracy isn't really
that funny.

Of course at ten percent per, it would remain somewhat effective
forever.

Given that the number of molecules in a container is finite,
that would be just short of forever.

Interesting, how long would it take to get to the last few effective
molecules which can't be decimated? Would they remain effective? If
so, how long?

Above a poster claims bleach looses 20% each year.
If there is one molecule of bleach left it should be gone
after 5 years.

My guess is that other factors may come into play.
The bleach is probably protected by the liquid that surrounds
it. So, the last few molecules to go might go a bit more slowly.
Still, forever is plenty long to overcome minor issues like that.


--
Dan Espen

On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 18:45:38 -0400, Dan Espen
wrote:

FromTheRafters writes:

Dan Espen was thinking very hard :
FromTheRafters writes:

Dan Espen submitted this idea :
micky writes:

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 1 Jun 2020 20:08:24 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote:

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 6:21:16 PM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
On 6/1/2020 3:43 PM, Andy wrote:
I bought a gallon of low splash bleach about a year ago.

It was very viscous then.

Now it is very watery and the bleach smell is almost gone.

Does that version attract water over time?

Andy

sci.chem is still very active.


Bleach does weaken over time.

"Bleach can expire. After a shelf life of six months, bleach
starts to degrade. Even in its original bottle, bleach becomes 20
percent less effective as each year goes by. Bleach mixed with
water at a 1:9 ratio (i.e. 10 percent bleach) is potent for about
a day (it's more unstable in its diluted form)."

So I shouldn't have high hopes for the bleach I bought 20 years ago?
At 10% a year for 20 years, it should be -100% effective, so it will
make the clothes darker, maybe dirtier.

Someone doesn't know how percentages work.

I know you were trying to be funny, but math illiteracy isn't really
that funny.

Of course at ten percent per, it would remain somewhat effective
forever.

Given that the number of molecules in a container is finite,
that would be just short of forever.

Interesting, how long would it take to get to the last few effective
molecules which can't be decimated? Would they remain effective? If
so, how long?

Above a poster claims bleach looses 20% each year.
If there is one molecule of bleach left it should be gone
after 5 years.

My guess is that other factors may come into play.
The bleach is probably protected by the liquid that surrounds
it. So, the last few molecules to go might go a bit more slowly.
Still, forever is plenty long to overcome minor issues like that.

If you start with 100 and reduce that by 20% every year.
Year 1, 80
Year 2, 64
Year 3, 51.2
Year 4, 40.96
Year 5, 32.77

Pretty weak but still plenty to screw up your clothes if you spill it.