A lot of these do not affect homeowners but a few might bite you. One
is a change to 680.4 that allows AHJs to do periodic inspections of
existing pools. I am not sure what the exact language is but this has
always been true of public pools. They are also going to start
requiring an outside disconnect at a dwelling. That would also affect
panel swap outs but it is probably not retroactive.

https://www.ecmweb.com/national-elec...llery?slide=25

On Tuesday, November 5, 2019 at 12:59:02 PM UTC-5, wrote:
A lot of these do not affect homeowners but a few might bite you. One
is a change to 680.4 that allows AHJs to do periodic inspections of
existing pools. I am not sure what the exact language is but this has
always been true of public pools. They are also going to start
requiring an outside disconnect at a dwelling. That would also affect
panel swap outs but it is probably not retroactive.

https://www.ecmweb.com/national-elec...llery?slide=25

Kind of bizarre. I don't see why any local jurisdiction needs the NEC
to allow them to do inspections of anything they want to inspect. Are
there that many pool injuries or deaths related to wiring problems?
I know of one incident personally. A teacher at my high school decided it was a
good idea to get the water out of his pool by using a shop vac. He
apparently was holding it while in the pool. This was before GFCI and
it wasn't a wiring issue, just stupidity. An inspection wouldn't have
saved him.

On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:10:21 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Tuesday, November 5, 2019 at 12:59:02 PM UTC-5, wrote:
A lot of these do not affect homeowners but a few might bite you. One
is a change to 680.4 that allows AHJs to do periodic inspections of
existing pools. I am not sure what the exact language is but this has
always been true of public pools. They are also going to start
requiring an outside disconnect at a dwelling. That would also affect
panel swap outs but it is probably not retroactive.

https://www.ecmweb.com/national-elec...llery?slide=25

Kind of bizarre. I don't see why any local jurisdiction needs the NEC
to allow them to do inspections of anything they want to inspect.

That really depends on what state you live in I imagine and the NEC
change would only prompt local legislation but in Florida the AHJ has
no more authority to come onto private property than anyone else.
Legally they need permission or a warrant. A permit will have that
permission in the application language that you sign but it expires
when the permit is closed. I am really curious how this will be
interpreted. There is one interesting side bar. The pool fence is
actually inspected by the electrical inspector so in Florida that
might be the hook to get in the door. Normally fence violations are
caught by "code enfor4cement" tho. Those are the guys who look for
tall grass or junk cars in the yard. Although it usually shocks them
if you say it but they have no more authority to enter private
property than a burglar. You can call the cops and file a trespassing
complaint.


Are
there that many pool injuries or deaths related to wiring problems?

Most pool deaths are kids drowning, hence the fence requirements.
There are problems occasionally but it is usually people doing stupid
stuff if the pool was legally wired in the first place.

I know of one incident personally. A teacher at my high school decided it was a
good idea to get the water out of his pool by using a shop vac. He
apparently was holding it while in the pool. This was before GFCI and
it wasn't a wiring issue, just stupidity. An inspection wouldn't have
saved him.

Stupid stuff like this ;-)

I am not sure how you would legally enforce requiring that all pools
be brought up to current code but that is one solution. (mostly GFCI
protection). I am also not sure how they would pay for all of those
inspections but I suppose it would be the way the government pays for
everything, another tax.