This is ridiculous , the nanny state in action. I have owned 2 hot springs
spas and used them twice a day at 108 degrees for 30 years. I recently
purchased a new HS for $12 k, and was very disappointed to find this
restriction on temp . I use the tub for therapy, not sitting , drinking
alcohol partying listening to music. I will modify the temp sensors. Its just
like all these liberal do gooders want to control everbody, leave me the hell
alone.

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On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 00:44:08 GMT, panman
m wrote:

This is ridiculous , the nanny state in action. I have owned 2 hot springs
spas and used them twice a day at 108 degrees for 30 years. I recently
purchased a new HS for $12 k, and was very disappointed to find this
restriction on temp . I use the tub for therapy, not sitting , drinking
alcohol partying listening to music. I will modify the temp sensors. Its just
like all these liberal do gooders want to control everbody, leave me the hell
alone.

Ain't that the truth. Hot springs in the desert are from the land.
Hike in and enjoy.

P.S. Buy more guns and ammo. Polish with pork fat grease. Bleeding
heart liberals are funny creatures, if you haven't noticed yet.

Oren posted for all of us...



On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 00:44:08 GMT, panman
m wrote:

This is ridiculous , the nanny state in action. I have owned 2 hot springs
spas and used them twice a day at 108 degrees for 30 years. I recently
purchased a new HS for $12 k, and was very disappointed to find this
restriction on temp . I use the tub for therapy, not sitting , drinking
alcohol partying listening to music. I will modify the temp sensors. Its just
like all these liberal do gooders want to control everbody, leave me the hell
alone.

Ain't that the truth. Hot springs in the desert are from the land.
Hike in and enjoy.

P.S. Buy more guns and ammo. Polish with pork fat grease. Bleeding
heart liberals are funny creatures, if you haven't noticed yet.

+1 for the reply

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On 2/17/2019 7:44 PM, panman wrote:
This is ridiculous , the nanny state in action. I have owned 2 hot springs
spasÂ* and used them twice a day at 108 degrees for 30 years. I recently
purchased a new HS for $12 k, and was very disappointed to find this
restriction on temp . I use the tub for therapy, not sitting , drinking
alcohol partying listening to music. I will modify the temp sensors. Its
just
like all these liberal do gooders want to control everbody, leave me the
hell
alone.


You are being very disrespectful of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the
Green New Deal. It will be your fault if the world ends next week from
the global warming you cause.

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 18 Feb 2019 00:44:08 GMT, panman
m wrote:

This is ridiculous , the nanny state in action. I have owned 2 hot springs
spas and used them twice a day at 108 degrees for 30 years. I recently
purchased a new HS for $12 k, and was very disappointed to find this
restriction on temp . I use the tub for therapy, not sitting , drinking
alcohol partying listening to music. I will modify the temp sensors. Its just
like all these liberal do gooders want to control everbody, leave me the hell
alone.

It's just as or more likely someone got scalded at the old temperature,
perhaps a child who I'm told have more sensitive skin, and then sued one
of the makers of these things so they started shipping them with the
thermostat turned down.

I don't think trying to avoid lawsuits and maximize profits is the
domain of liberal do gooders. Certainly not exclusively

If you want to blame everything on liberals, it's going to cloud your
thinking.

On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 23:36:32 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 18 Feb 2019 00:44:08 GMT, panman
om wrote:

This is ridiculous , the nanny state in action. I have owned 2 hot springs
spas and used them twice a day at 108 degrees for 30 years. I recently
purchased a new HS for $12 k, and was very disappointed to find this
restriction on temp . I use the tub for therapy, not sitting , drinking
alcohol partying listening to music. I will modify the temp sensors. Its just
like all these liberal do gooders want to control everbody, leave me the hell
alone.

It's just as or more likely someone got scalded at the old temperature,
perhaps a child who I'm told have more sensitive skin, and then sued one
of the makers of these things so they started shipping them with the
thermostat turned down.

I don't think trying to avoid lawsuits and maximize profits is the
domain of liberal do gooders. Certainly not exclusively

If you want to blame everything on liberals, it's going to cloud your
thinking.

I made my own spa controller and the spa police never showed up.

On 2/17/19 11:36 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 18 Feb 2019 00:44:08 GMT, panman
m wrote:

This is ridiculous , the nanny state in action. I have owned 2 hot springs
spas and used them twice a day at 108 degrees for 30 years. I recently
purchased a new HS for $12 k, and was very disappointed to find this
restriction on temp . I use the tub for therapy, not sitting , drinking
alcohol partying listening to music. I will modify the temp sensors. Its just
like all these liberal do gooders want to control everbody, leave me the hell
alone.

It's just as or more likely someone got scalded at the old temperature,
perhaps a child who I'm told have more sensitive skin, and then sued one
of the makers of these things so they started shipping them with the
thermostat turned down.

I don't think trying to avoid lawsuits and maximize profits is the
domain of liberal do gooders. Certainly not exclusively

If you want to blame everything on liberals, it's going to cloud your
thinking.



Blame it on stupid juries.

The manufacturer was sued, the jury (likely democrats) awarded a huge settlement to the plaintiff and as a result the manufacturer lowered the upper limit on their temp controller.

That said, I'd bet the plaintiff was a democrat looking for a quick payday.

On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 6:39:46 AM UTC-5, devnull wrote:
On 2/17/19 11:36 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 18 Feb 2019 00:44:08 GMT, panman
m wrote:

This is ridiculous , the nanny state in action. I have owned 2 hot springs
spas and used them twice a day at 108 degrees for 30 years. I recently
purchased a new HS for $12 k, and was very disappointed to find this
restriction on temp . I use the tub for therapy, not sitting , drinking
alcohol partying listening to music. I will modify the temp sensors. Its just
like all these liberal do gooders want to control everbody, leave me the hell
alone.

It's just as or more likely someone got scalded at the old temperature,
perhaps a child who I'm told have more sensitive skin, and then sued one
of the makers of these things so they started shipping them with the
thermostat turned down.

I don't think trying to avoid lawsuits and maximize profits is the
domain of liberal do gooders. Certainly not exclusively

If you want to blame everything on liberals, it's going to cloud your
thinking.



Blame it on stupid juries.

The manufacturer was sued, the jury (likely democrats) awarded a huge settlement to the plaintiff and as a result the manufacturer lowered the upper limit on their temp controller.

That said, I'd bet the plaintiff was a democrat looking for a quick payday.

It wasn't one manufacturer, it was ALL hot tub manufacturers, coerced by
big govt.

On 2/18/19 8:28 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 6:39:46 AM UTC-5, devnull wrote:
On 2/17/19 11:36 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 18 Feb 2019 00:44:08 GMT, panman
m wrote:

This is ridiculous , the nanny state in action. I have owned 2 hot springs
spas and used them twice a day at 108 degrees for 30 years. I recently
purchased a new HS for $12 k, and was very disappointed to find this
restriction on temp . I use the tub for therapy, not sitting , drinking
alcohol partying listening to music. I will modify the temp sensors. Its just
like all these liberal do gooders want to control everbody, leave me the hell
alone.

It's just as or more likely someone got scalded at the old temperature,
perhaps a child who I'm told have more sensitive skin, and then sued one
of the makers of these things so they started shipping them with the
thermostat turned down.

I don't think trying to avoid lawsuits and maximize profits is the
domain of liberal do gooders. Certainly not exclusively

If you want to blame everything on liberals, it's going to cloud your
thinking.



Blame it on stupid juries.

The manufacturer was sued, the jury (likely democrats) awarded a huge settlement to the plaintiff and as a result the manufacturer lowered the upper limit on their temp controller.

That said, I'd bet the plaintiff was a democrat looking for a quick payday.

It wasn't one manufacturer, it was ALL hot tub manufacturers, coerced by
big govt.




Wrong, it was a lawsuit filed by Mothers Against Hot Tubs.

On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 11:36:36 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 18 Feb 2019 00:44:08 GMT, panman
m wrote:

This is ridiculous , the nanny state in action. I have owned 2 hot springs
spas and used them twice a day at 108 degrees for 30 years. I recently
purchased a new HS for $12 k, and was very disappointed to find this
restriction on temp . I use the tub for therapy, not sitting , drinking
alcohol partying listening to music. I will modify the temp sensors. Its just
like all these liberal do gooders want to control everbody, leave me the hell
alone.

It's just as or more likely someone got scalded at the old temperature,
perhaps a child who I'm told have more sensitive skin, and then sued one
of the makers of these things so they started shipping them with the
thermostat turned down.

Actually it was a few dummies getting drunk and passing out in them.
That lead the GOVERNMENT, to coerce the industry into coming up with
a temp limit of their own, under the threat that if they didn't, the
govt would.





I don't think trying to avoid lawsuits and maximize profits is the
domain of liberal do gooders. Certainly not exclusively

That's true, but having big govt get involved in things like this,
forcing industry to do what they think is right, is exactly what libs do.
And that is how it happened in this case. So now a guy who likes his
hot tub two degrees hotter, is screwed.




If you want to blame everything on liberals, it's going to cloud your
thinking.

He didn't blame everything on libs, but this is a good example of lib thinking.
There are plenty of similar examples, like that moron Bloomberg trying to take
the salt shakers off tables at restaurants.

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 18 Feb 2019 05:27:15 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:


If you want to blame everything on liberals, it's going to cloud your
thinking.

He didn't blame everything on libs,


Not today, but I bet he does.


but this is a good example of lib thinking.
There are plenty of similar examples, like that moron Bloomberg trying to take
the salt shakers off tables at restaurants.