A friend is in her basement and talking to me on the phone and she
notices that a pipe connected to her heat pump is glowing red. !!!

It's an expensive house built about 10 years ago.

She's sent me two pictures.

One is of two parallel 2-inch white plastic pipes next to each other
that are going horizontally across the ceiling, have right angle curves
that point the pipes up, have 2 or 3-inch straight pieces, then right
angle curves that point through the wall to the outside of the basement

You can see a floor joist from the floor above and the silver-colored
insulation on the inside of her basement wall.

(Do they now enclose the high and low pressure AC hoses in PVC pipes
like this? That's what it seems like it is.) The AC was on yesterday,
but it wasn't that hot out (90) and it shouldn't have been running that
much. The house has an AC at each end of the house.

(It's a royal pain for me to post the pictures. )


The second picture from her phone is darker, perhaps underexposed, but
the more I look at it the more I can see. It shows the nearer 2 or
3-inch straight piece and the entire thing is glowing red!!!! You can
see some red color reflecting off the silver insulation. (Above and
below are the curved sections, and they each have as thicker section
where they mate with the end of the straight pieces, and those sections
show as black bands at the top and bottom of the 2 or 3 inches, even
though in the first picture they are the same color, white.)

She could see it glowing with the lights on in the basement, plus
sunlight coming in the sliding glass door. Then the glowing got less
by the time she sent me these pictures. What is glowing??????


I told her before she bought the house that it had demons, but she
bought it anyhow. This is the first clear example that they are there.
Can they be exorcised or is she stuck with them?

On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 12:43:02 PM UTC-4, micky wrote:
A friend is in her basement and talking to me on the phone and she
notices that a pipe connected to her heat pump is glowing red. !!!

It's an expensive house built about 10 years ago.

She's sent me two pictures.

One is of two parallel 2-inch white plastic pipes next to each other
that are going horizontally across the ceiling, have right angle curves
that point the pipes up, have 2 or 3-inch straight pieces, then right
angle curves that point through the wall to the outside of the basement
Nor
You can see a floor joist from the floor above and the silver-colored
insulation on the inside of her basement wall.

(Do they now enclose the high and low pressure AC hoses in PVC pipes
like this?

Not that I've ever seen, that's for sure. The lines are copper tubing,
less than 1" not 2", covered in black foam insulation on the low
pressure side and how can PVC glow? No idea what you're looking at.

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 10:08:50 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 12:43:02 PM UTC-4, micky wrote:
A friend is in her basement and talking to me on the phone and she
notices that a pipe connected to her heat pump is glowing red. !!!

It's an expensive house built about 10 years ago.

She's sent me two pictures.

One is of two parallel 2-inch white plastic pipes next to each other
that are going horizontally across the ceiling, have right angle curves
that point the pipes up, have 2 or 3-inch straight pieces, then right
angle curves that point through the wall to the outside of the basement
Nor
You can see a floor joist from the floor above and the silver-colored
insulation on the inside of her basement wall.

(Do they now enclose the high and low pressure AC hoses in PVC pipes
like this?

Not that I've ever seen, that's for sure. The lines are copper tubing,
less than 1" not 2", covered in black foam insulation on the low
pressure side and how can PVC glow? No idea what you're looking at.


Sounds like a light behind a PVC pipe lighting it up.

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 10 Aug 2018 13:34:39 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 10:08:50 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 12:43:02 PM UTC-4, micky wrote:
A friend is in her basement and talking to me on the phone and she
notices that a pipe connected to her heat pump is glowing red. !!!

It's an expensive house built about 10 years ago.

She's sent me two pictures.

One is of two parallel 2-inch white plastic pipes next to each other
that are going horizontally across the ceiling, have right angle curves
that point the pipes up, have 2 or 3-inch straight pieces, then right
angle curves that point through the wall to the outside of the basement
Nor
You can see a floor joist from the floor above and the silver-colored
insulation on the inside of her basement wall.

(Do they now enclose the high and low pressure AC hoses in PVC pipes
like this?

Not that I've ever seen, that's for sure. The lines are copper tubing,
less than 1" not 2", covered in black foam insulation on the low
pressure side

Okay. Just like my house that's 40 years old.

She also has a backup generator. I don't see why they would use PVC
pipe, or two of them, but....????

She has solar panels in the yard, but again, why PVC and why two?

She has some other gizmos too. They first owner was an architect who was
into gizmos.

and how can PVC glow?

Good question.

No idea what you're looking at.


Sounds like a light behind a PVC pipe lighting it up.

Maybe the demons are decorating early for Halloween.

She lives fairly far away. Maybe I'll get her to show me where the
pipes go, or maybe I'll figure out how to post the pictures here. I
should learn how to do that. (I signed up for one of those services. I
have to figure out which.)

On 8/10/2018 10:44 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 10 Aug 2018 13:34:39 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 10:08:50 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 12:43:02 PM UTC-4, micky wrote:
A friend is in her basement and talking to me on the phone and she
notices that a pipe connected to her heat pump is glowing red. !!!

It's an expensive house built about 10 years ago.

She's sent me two pictures.

One is of two parallel 2-inch white plastic pipes next to each other
that are going horizontally across the ceiling, have right angle curves
that point the pipes up, have 2 or 3-inch straight pieces, then right
angle curves that point through the wall to the outside of the basement
Nor
You can see a floor joist from the floor above and the silver-colored
insulation on the inside of her basement wall.

(Do they now enclose the high and low pressure AC hoses in PVC pipes
like this?

Not that I've ever seen, that's for sure. The lines are copper tubing,
less than 1" not 2", covered in black foam insulation on the low
pressure side

Okay. Just like my house that's 40 years old.

She also has a backup generator. I don't see why they would use PVC
pipe, or two of them, but....????

She has solar panels in the yard, but again, why PVC and why two?

She has some other gizmos too. They first owner was an architect who was
into gizmos.

and how can PVC glow?

Good question.

No idea what you're looking at.


Sounds like a light behind a PVC pipe lighting it up.

Maybe the demons are decorating early for Halloween.

She lives fairly far away. Maybe I'll get her to show me where the
pipes go, or maybe I'll figure out how to post the pictures here. I
should learn how to do that. (I signed up for one of those services. I
have to figure out which.)


My guess is the sun is hitting a part of the pipe you can't see, and as
the sun moves, the light changes.

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 10 Aug 2018 10:54:41 -0700, Bob F
wrote:

On 8/10/2018 10:44 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 10 Aug 2018 13:34:39 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 10:08:50 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 12:43:02 PM UTC-4, micky wrote:
A friend is in her basement and talking to me on the phone and she
notices that a pipe connected to her heat pump is glowing red. !!!

It's an expensive house built about 10 years ago.

She's sent me two pictures.

One is of two parallel 2-inch white plastic pipes next to each other
that are going horizontally across the ceiling, have right angle curves
that point the pipes up, have 2 or 3-inch straight pieces, then right
angle curves that point through the wall to the outside of the basement
Nor
You can see a floor joist from the floor above and the silver-colored
insulation on the inside of her basement wall.

(Do they now enclose the high and low pressure AC hoses in PVC pipes
like this?

Not that I've ever seen, that's for sure. The lines are copper tubing,
less than 1" not 2", covered in black foam insulation on the low
pressure side

Okay. Just like my house that's 40 years old.

She also has a backup generator. I don't see why they would use PVC
pipe, or two of them, but....????

She has solar panels in the yard, but again, why PVC and why two?

She has some other gizmos too. They first owner was an architect who was
into gizmos.

and how can PVC glow?

Good question.

No idea what you're looking at.


Sounds like a light behind a PVC pipe lighting it up.

Maybe the demons are decorating early for Halloween.

She lives fairly far away. Maybe I'll get her to show me where the
pipes go, or maybe I'll figure out how to post the pictures here. I
should learn how to do that. (I signed up for one of those services. I
have to figure out which.)


My guess is the sun is hitting a part of the pipe you can't see, and as
the sun moves, the light changes.

I finally learned how to post something.

https://imgur.com/a/grgYKGt Pictures are not in the order I put them
in.

Had to get it from my phone to my phone's email to my pc to imgur.

I'll ask but I think her basement door faces east and this happened
around 5PM.

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 13:44:19 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 10 Aug 2018 13:34:39 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 10:08:50 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 12:43:02 PM UTC-4, micky wrote:
A friend is in her basement and talking to me on the phone and she
notices that a pipe connected to her heat pump is glowing red. !!!

It's an expensive house built about 10 years ago.

She's sent me two pictures.

One is of two parallel 2-inch white plastic pipes next to each other
that are going horizontally across the ceiling, have right angle curves
that point the pipes up, have 2 or 3-inch straight pieces, then right
angle curves that point through the wall to the outside of the basement
Nor
You can see a floor joist from the floor above and the silver-colored
insulation on the inside of her basement wall.

(Do they now enclose the high and low pressure AC hoses in PVC pipes
like this?

Not that I've ever seen, that's for sure. The lines are copper tubing,
less than 1" not 2", covered in black foam insulation on the low
pressure side

Okay. Just like my house that's 40 years old.

She also has a backup generator. I don't see why they would use PVC
pipe, or two of them, but....????

She has solar panels in the yard, but again, why PVC and why two?

She has some other gizmos too. They first owner was an architect who was
into gizmos.

and how can PVC glow?

Good question.

No idea what you're looking at.


Sounds like a light behind a PVC pipe lighting it up.

Maybe the demons are decorating early for Halloween.

She lives fairly far away. Maybe I'll get her to show me where the
pipes go, or maybe I'll figure out how to post the pictures here. I
should learn how to do that. (I signed up for one of those services. I
have to figure out which.)

I have seen PVC plumbing stacks that looked like neon tubes, just from
sunlight coming down them.

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 10 Aug 2018 16:24:49 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 13:44:19 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 10 Aug 2018 13:34:39 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 10:08:50 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 12:43:02 PM UTC-4, micky wrote:
A friend is in her basement and talking to me on the phone and she
notices that a pipe connected to her heat pump is glowing red. !!!

It's an expensive house built about 10 years ago.

She's sent me two pictures.

One is of two parallel 2-inch white plastic pipes next to each other
that are going horizontally across the ceiling, have right angle curves
that point the pipes up, have 2 or 3-inch straight pieces, then right
angle curves that point through the wall to the outside of the basement
Nor
You can see a floor joist from the floor above and the silver-colored
insulation on the inside of her basement wall.

(Do they now enclose the high and low pressure AC hoses in PVC pipes
like this?

Not that I've ever seen, that's for sure. The lines are copper tubing,
less than 1" not 2", covered in black foam insulation on the low
pressure side

Okay. Just like my house that's 40 years old.

She also has a backup generator. I don't see why they would use PVC
pipe, or two of them, but....????

She has solar panels in the yard, but again, why PVC and why two?

She has some other gizmos too. They first owner was an architect who was
into gizmos.

and how can PVC glow?

Good question.

No idea what you're looking at.


Sounds like a light behind a PVC pipe lighting it up.

Maybe the demons are decorating early for Halloween.

She lives fairly far away. Maybe I'll get her to show me where the
pipes go, or maybe I'll figure out how to post the pictures here. I
should learn how to do that. (I signed up for one of those services. I
have to figure out which.)

I have seen PVC plumbing stacks that looked like neon tubes, just from
sunlight coming down them.

How strange. I guess that's all it was. She's lived there 4 years,
spends quite a bit of time in the basement, never saw it before.

Thanks all.

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 12:42:57 -0400, micky
wrote:

A friend is in her basement and talking to me on the phone and she
notices that a pipe connected to her heat pump is glowing red. !!!

It's an expensive house built about 10 years ago.

She's sent me two pictures.

One is of two parallel 2-inch white plastic pipes next to each other
that are going horizontally across the ceiling, have right angle curves
that point the pipes up, have 2 or 3-inch straight pieces, then right
angle curves that point through the wall to the outside of the basement

You can see a floor joist from the floor above and the silver-colored
insulation on the inside of her basement wall.

(Do they now enclose the high and low pressure AC hoses in PVC pipes
like this? That's what it seems like it is.) The AC was on yesterday,
but it wasn't that hot out (90) and it shouldn't have been running that
much. The house has an AC at each end of the house.

(It's a royal pain for me to post the pictures. )


The second picture from her phone is darker, perhaps underexposed, but
the more I look at it the more I can see. It shows the nearer 2 or
3-inch straight piece and the entire thing is glowing red!!!! You can
see some red color reflecting off the silver insulation. (Above and
below are the curved sections, and they each have as thicker section
where they mate with the end of the straight pieces, and those sections
show as black bands at the top and bottom of the 2 or 3 inches, even
though in the first picture they are the same color, white.)

She could see it glowing with the lights on in the basement, plus
sunlight coming in the sliding glass door. Then the glowing got less
by the time she sent me these pictures. What is glowing??????


I told her before she bought the house that it had demons, but she
bought it anyhow. This is the first clear example that they are there.
Can they be exorcised or is she stuck with them?

Interesting. When you mentioned 2 PVC pipes, I immediately though
about the combustion air lines on a high effeciency gas furnace. I
know you said heat pump, but maybe the back-up heat is gas.
Regardless, that still doesn't explain the glowing. Sun shining on a
nearby section of the pipe is the only answer I read so far that makes
sense.

On 08/10/2018 12:42 PM, micky wrote:
A friend is in her basement and talking to me on the phone and she
notices that a pipe connected to her heat pump is glowing red. !!!

It's an expensive house built about 10 years ago.

She's sent me two pictures.

Look at them again when you're sober and maybe you'll figure it out