On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 13:44:44 -0400, "BurfordTJustice"
wrote:

Tru dat

No it's not. It's a painfully slow process that usually involves techs
from the major compabnies involved in production of the products to
which the standards are applied along with people like notified bodies
and testing houses with interests in a specific area. As far as I know
anyone can contribute to standards development. Some standards are
stupid simple stuff and other stuff like comms and medical devices are
very complex indeed. "unscientific, abitrary, indiscriminate and,
frankly, imposed by ignorant greenies" is complete bull****.


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: On 16/07/2018 17:40, pamela wrote:
: On 09:49 16 Jul 2018, Ian Jackson wrote:
:
: Another (apparently) forbidden product which I use every year (the
: wasps invariably started to take up residence in the loft) is
: Vapona (the adjustable slow-release fly killer. I now have to
: improvise with paper soaked with aerosol sprays.
:
: Who's to say the UK wouldn't have introduced these regulations on
: its own in the light of emerging scientific information about such
: chemicals?
:
: Of course we'd have introduced laws and regulations, but hopefully
: evidence-based and scientifically-led. The EU regulations seem to be
: unscientific, abitrary, indiscriminate and, frankly, imposed by ignorant
: greenies who seem to wield undue influence there.


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On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 13:44:44 -0400, "BurfordTJustice"
wrote:

Tru dat

No it's not. It's a painfully slow process that usually involves techs
from the major compabnies involved in production of the products to
which the standards are applied along with people like notified bodies
and testing houses with interests in a specific area. As far as I know
anyone can contribute to standards development. Some standards are
stupid simple stuff and other stuff like comms and medical devices are
very complex indeed. "unscientific, abitrary, indiscriminate and,
frankly, imposed by ignorant greenies" is complete bull****.

But surely it's outrageous to point out the truth if it gets in the way
of what people prefer to believe?
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 08:26:09 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , "p-0''0-h the
cat (coder)" writes
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 13:44:44 -0400, "BurfordTJustice"
wrote:

Tru dat

No it's not. It's a painfully slow process that usually involves techs
from the major compabnies involved in production of the products to
which the standards are applied along with people like notified bodies
and testing houses with interests in a specific area. As far as I know
anyone can contribute to standards development. Some standards are
stupid simple stuff and other stuff like comms and medical devices are
very complex indeed. "unscientific, abitrary, indiscriminate and,
frankly, imposed by ignorant greenies" is complete bull****.

But surely it's outrageous to point out the truth if it gets in the way
of what people prefer to believe?

Well yeah. In fact the EU doesn't directly set standards. It created the
legal framework by which a legal route to market is attained. That is
normally part legal, for instance medical devices must be tested to a
defined standard, other products may or may not be tested to a standard.
Testing to standards is the usual route to market and bodies like the
ISO do the majority of work not the EU but for some cutting edge
products there may not be a standard in which case another legal route
would be for the manufacturer to define a standard possibly with the
help of a notified body with expertise in the area. Are we going to tear
up the ISO standards when we leave the EU. Are we ****.

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On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 08:26:09 +0100, Ian Jackson
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In message , "p-0''0-h the
cat (coder)" writes
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 13:44:44 -0400, "BurfordTJustice"
wrote:

Tru dat

No it's not. It's a painfully slow process that usually involves techs
from the major compabnies involved in production of the products to
which the standards are applied along with people like notified bodies
and testing houses with interests in a specific area. As far as I know
anyone can contribute to standards development. Some standards are
stupid simple stuff and other stuff like comms and medical devices are
very complex indeed. "unscientific, abitrary, indiscriminate and,
frankly, imposed by ignorant greenies" is complete bull****.

But surely it's outrageous to point out the truth if it gets in the way
of what people prefer to believe?

Well yeah. In fact the EU doesn't directly set standards. It created the
legal framework by which a legal route to market is attained. That is
normally part legal, for instance medical devices must be tested to a
defined standard, other products may or may not be tested to a standard.
Testing to standards is the usual route to market and bodies like the
ISO do the majority of work not the EU but for some cutting edge
products there may not be a standard in which case another legal route
would be for the manufacturer to define a standard possibly with the
help of a notified body with expertise in the area. Are we going to tear
up the ISO standards when we leave the EU. Are we ****.

This is why I'm so puzzled about why Brexiteers keep harping on about
how we will able to ignore the EU rules and regs, and what a fantastic
advantage it will be to us it we can do so. And, as I asked Yellow, if
we are free to ignore EU rules and regs, what are we going to use
instead (or maybe, if the situation requires it, to use as well as).


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