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The Nation's Poisonous Water Problem Is Far Worse Than You Think
This really surprised me about America's water purity:
Marc Edwards, the scientist who first uncovered the crisis in Flint, described water testing in some of America's largest cities as an "outrage". "They make lead in water low when collecting samples for EPA compliance, even as it poisons kids who drink the water," Edwards, a Virginia Tech scientist, said. "Clearly, the cheating and lax enforcement are needlessly harming children all over the United States. "If they cannot be trusted to protect little kids from lead in drinking water, what on Earth can they be trusted with? Who amongst us is safe?" http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...sis-33-cities/ -- Bod |
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 05:26:27 +0000, Bod wrote:
This really surprised me about America's water purity: Marc Edwards, the scientist who first uncovered the crisis in Flint, described water testing in some of America's largest cities as an "outrage". "They make lead in water low when collecting samples for EPA compliance, even as it poisons kids who drink the water," Edwards, a Virginia Tech scientist, said. "Clearly, the cheating and lax enforcement are needlessly harming children all over the United States. "If they cannot be trusted to protect little kids from lead in drinking water, what on Earth can they be trusted with? Who amongst us is safe?" http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...sis-33-cities/ We have been talking about lead in the water for 50 years and they have been selling testing kits for just about that long. Some of it comes from 100 year old pipes in municipal systems in old cities and some comes from lead in the home plumbing. We have always been told that if the pH was high enough and there was enough calcium in the water the lead would be sequestered. In Flint the local water authority simply did not add the same sequestering the chemical that the Detroit operators did (after giving up the contract with them for water) and the water itself was corrosive without it. Once they actually started looking they found this problem existed in lots of places. They had blamed lead in kids on everything but the water up until then (lead paint, lead in gasoline, lead solder in electronics and even lead from bullets). Now they are grudgingly admitting that it may just be from those 100 year old pipes that should have been replaced 60-70 years ago when the cities had the money to do it. |
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On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:34:34 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote:
On 28/11/2017 06:15, wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 05:26:27 +0000, Bod wrote: This really surprised me about America's water purity: Marc Edwards, the scientist who first uncovered the crisis in Flint, described water testing in some of America's largest cities as an "outrage". "They make lead in water low when collecting samples for EPA compliance, even as it poisons kids who drink the water," Edwards, a Virginia Tech scientist, said. "Clearly, the cheating and lax enforcement are needlessly harming children all over the United States.. "If they cannot be trusted to protect little kids from lead in drinking water, what on Earth can they be trusted with? Who amongst us is safe?" http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...sis-33-cities/ We have been talking about lead in the water for 50 years and they have been selling testing kits for just about that long. Some of it comes from 100 year old pipes in municipal systems in old cities and some comes from lead in the home plumbing. We have always been told that if the pH was high enough and there was enough calcium in the water the lead would be sequestered. In Flint the local water authority simply did not add the same sequestering the chemical that the Detroit operators did (after giving up the contract with them for water) and the water itself was corrosive without it. Once they actually started looking they found this problem existed in lots of places. They had blamed lead in kids on everything but the water up until then (lead paint, lead in gasoline, lead solder in electronics and even lead from bullets). Now they are grudgingly admitting that it may just be from those 100 year old pipes that should have been replaced 60-70 years ago when the cities had the money to do it. Thanks for the explanation. Trump should concentrate on basic living needs, like a healthy domestic water quality supply for all. -- Bod The lead is in the water of those cities run by Democrats/Commiecrats. Lead contamination makes people stupid. The DeCommiecrats want stupid voters. The DeCommiecrat elite have water filtration systems for themselves and their families. ヽ(*_*)ノ [8~{} Uncle Smart Monster |
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On 28/11/2017 06:46, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:34:34 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote: On 28/11/2017 06:15, wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 05:26:27 +0000, Bod wrote: This really surprised me about America's water purity: Marc Edwards, the scientist who first uncovered the crisis in Flint, described water testing in some of America's largest cities as an "outrage". "They make lead in water low when collecting samples for EPA compliance, even as it poisons kids who drink the water," Edwards, a Virginia Tech scientist, said. "Clearly, the cheating and lax enforcement are needlessly harming children all over the United States. "If they cannot be trusted to protect little kids from lead in drinking water, what on Earth can they be trusted with? Who amongst us is safe?" http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...sis-33-cities/ We have been talking about lead in the water for 50 years and they have been selling testing kits for just about that long. Some of it comes from 100 year old pipes in municipal systems in old cities and some comes from lead in the home plumbing. We have always been told that if the pH was high enough and there was enough calcium in the water the lead would be sequestered. In Flint the local water authority simply did not add the same sequestering the chemical that the Detroit operators did (after giving up the contract with them for water) and the water itself was corrosive without it. Once they actually started looking they found this problem existed in lots of places. They had blamed lead in kids on everything but the water up until then (lead paint, lead in gasoline, lead solder in electronics and even lead from bullets). Now they are grudgingly admitting that it may just be from those 100 year old pipes that should have been replaced 60-70 years ago when the cities had the money to do it. Thanks for the explanation. Trump should concentrate on basic living needs, like a healthy domestic water quality supply for all. -- Bod The lead is in the water of those cities run by Democrats/Commiecrats. Lead contamination makes people stupid. The DeCommiecrats want stupid voters. The DeCommiecrat elite have water filtration systems for themselves and their families. ヽ(*_*)ノ [8~{} Uncle Smart Monster Is that the real facts or are you just joshing? -- Bod |
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On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 1:26:51 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote:
On 28/11/2017 06:46, Uncle Monster wrote: On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:34:34 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote: On 28/11/2017 06:15, wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 05:26:27 +0000, Bod wrote: This really surprised me about America's water purity: Marc Edwards, the scientist who first uncovered the crisis in Flint, described water testing in some of America's largest cities as an "outrage". "They make lead in water low when collecting samples for EPA compliance, even as it poisons kids who drink the water," Edwards, a Virginia Tech scientist, said. "Clearly, the cheating and lax enforcement are needlessly harming children all over the United States. "If they cannot be trusted to protect little kids from lead in drinking water, what on Earth can they be trusted with? Who amongst us is safe?" http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...sis-33-cities/ We have been talking about lead in the water for 50 years and they have been selling testing kits for just about that long. Some of it comes from 100 year old pipes in municipal systems in old cities and some comes from lead in the home plumbing. We have always been told that if the pH was high enough and there was enough calcium in the water the lead would be sequestered. In Flint the local water authority simply did not add the same sequestering the chemical that the Detroit operators did (after giving up the contract with them for water) and the water itself was corrosive without it. Once they actually started looking they found this problem existed in lots of places. They had blamed lead in kids on everything but the water up until then (lead paint, lead in gasoline, lead solder in electronics and even lead from bullets). Now they are grudgingly admitting that it may just be from those 100 year old pipes that should have been replaced 60-70 years ago when the cities had the money to do it. Thanks for the explanation. Trump should concentrate on basic living needs, like a healthy domestic water quality supply for all. -- Bod The lead is in the water of those cities run by Democrats/Commiecrats. Lead contamination makes people stupid. The DeCommiecrats want stupid voters. The DeCommiecrat elite have water filtration systems for themselves and their families. ヽ(*_*)ノ [8~{} Uncle Smart Monster Is that the real facts or are you just joshing? -- Bod All the large population centers are run by DeCommiecrats. They stay in power by keeping the population enslaved by promising them free money and stuff. The dumber the voters, the easier it is for the DeCommiecrat elite to stay in power. The DeCommiecrat elites live in luxury while their supporters live in squalor. The Democrats were the slave owners. Overt slavery was outlawed so they came up with another way to enslave Negroes by using government giveaways. The DeCommicrat tactics also ensnare poor Caucasians. There are able bodied people receiving welfare from the government and they're breeding like rabbits with large broods of fatherless children who grow up to be savage thugs. The system is in bad need of reform but anyone who proposes such an action is labeled a racist by the Liberal/Leftist DeCommiecrats. ( *_*) [8~{} Uncle Observant Monster |
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On 28/11/2017 07:48, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 1:26:51 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote: On 28/11/2017 06:46, Uncle Monster wrote: On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:34:34 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote: On 28/11/2017 06:15, wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 05:26:27 +0000, Bod wrote: This really surprised me about America's water purity: Marc Edwards, the scientist who first uncovered the crisis in Flint, described water testing in some of America's largest cities as an "outrage". "They make lead in water low when collecting samples for EPA compliance, even as it poisons kids who drink the water," Edwards, a Virginia Tech scientist, said. "Clearly, the cheating and lax enforcement are needlessly harming children all over the United States. "If they cannot be trusted to protect little kids from lead in drinking water, what on Earth can they be trusted with? Who amongst us is safe?" http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...sis-33-cities/ We have been talking about lead in the water for 50 years and they have been selling testing kits for just about that long. Some of it comes from 100 year old pipes in municipal systems in old cities and some comes from lead in the home plumbing. We have always been told that if the pH was high enough and there was enough calcium in the water the lead would be sequestered. In Flint the local water authority simply did not add the same sequestering the chemical that the Detroit operators did (after giving up the contract with them for water) and the water itself was corrosive without it. Once they actually started looking they found this problem existed in lots of places. They had blamed lead in kids on everything but the water up until then (lead paint, lead in gasoline, lead solder in electronics and even lead from bullets). Now they are grudgingly admitting that it may just be from those 100 year old pipes that should have been replaced 60-70 years ago when the cities had the money to do it. Thanks for the explanation. Trump should concentrate on basic living needs, like a healthy domestic water quality supply for all. -- Bod The lead is in the water of those cities run by Democrats/Commiecrats. Lead contamination makes people stupid. The DeCommiecrats want stupid voters. The DeCommiecrat elite have water filtration systems for themselves and their families. ヽ(*_*)ノ [8~{} Uncle Smart Monster Is that the real facts or are you just joshing? -- Bod All the large population centers are run by DeCommiecrats. They stay in power by keeping the population enslaved by promising them free money and stuff. The dumber the voters, the easier it is for the DeCommiecrat elite to stay in power. The DeCommiecrat elites live in luxury while their supporters live in squalor. The Democrats were the slave owners. Overt slavery was outlawed so they came up with another way to enslave Negroes by using government giveaways. The DeCommicrat tactics also ensnare poor Caucasians. There are able bodied people receiving welfare from the government and they're breeding like rabbits with large broods of fatherless children who grow up to be savage thugs. The system is in bad need of reform but anyone who proposes such an action is labeled a racist by the Liberal/Leftist DeCommiecrats. ( *_*) [8~{} Uncle Observant Monster So there are no Republican cities/towns that have high levels of lead in their drinking water? -- Bod |
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On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 2:04:13 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote:
On 28/11/2017 07:48, Uncle Monster wrote: On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 1:26:51 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote: On 28/11/2017 06:46, Uncle Monster wrote: On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:34:34 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote: On 28/11/2017 06:15, wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 05:26:27 +0000, Bod wrote: This really surprised me about America's water purity: Marc Edwards, the scientist who first uncovered the crisis in Flint, described water testing in some of America's largest cities as an "outrage". "They make lead in water low when collecting samples for EPA compliance, even as it poisons kids who drink the water," Edwards, a Virginia Tech scientist, said. "Clearly, the cheating and lax enforcement are needlessly harming children all over the United States. "If they cannot be trusted to protect little kids from lead in drinking water, what on Earth can they be trusted with? Who amongst us is safe?" http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...sis-33-cities/ We have been talking about lead in the water for 50 years and they have been selling testing kits for just about that long. Some of it comes from 100 year old pipes in municipal systems in old cities and some comes from lead in the home plumbing. We have always been told that if the pH was high enough and there was enough calcium in the water the lead would be sequestered. In Flint the local water authority simply did not add the same sequestering the chemical that the Detroit operators did (after giving up the contract with them for water) and the water itself was corrosive without it. Once they actually started looking they found this problem existed in lots of places. They had blamed lead in kids on everything but the water up until then (lead paint, lead in gasoline, lead solder in electronics and even lead from bullets). Now they are grudgingly admitting that it may just be from those 100 year old pipes that should have been replaced 60-70 years ago when the cities had the money to do it. Thanks for the explanation. Trump should concentrate on basic living needs, like a healthy domestic water quality supply for all. -- Bod The lead is in the water of those cities run by Democrats/Commiecrats.. Lead contamination makes people stupid. The DeCommiecrats want stupid voters. The DeCommiecrat elite have water filtration systems for themselves and their families. ヽ(*_*)ノ [8~{} Uncle Smart Monster Is that the real facts or are you just joshing? -- Bod All the large population centers are run by DeCommiecrats. They stay in power by keeping the population enslaved by promising them free money and stuff. The dumber the voters, the easier it is for the DeCommiecrat elite to stay in power. The DeCommiecrat elites live in luxury while their supporters live in squalor. The Democrats were the slave owners. Overt slavery was outlawed so they came up with another way to enslave Negroes by using government giveaways. The DeCommicrat tactics also ensnare poor Caucasians. There are able bodied people receiving welfare from the government and they're breeding like rabbits with large broods of fatherless children who grow up to be savage thugs. The system is in bad need of reform but anyone who proposes such an action is labeled a racist by the Liberal/Leftist DeCommiecrats. ( *_*) [8~{} Uncle Observant Monster So there are no Republican cities/towns that have high levels of lead in their drinking water? -- Bod Probably not because I'd think a Republican-run city would take action to correct such a life-threatening problem. A Republican enclave will have people who actually work and produce something. If there was a problem with a government-run service, the population would demand action from their elected officials. The people enslaved by the DeCommiecrats are usually too stupid to be aware of or even care that there is a problem. ޏ ὸ.όރ [8~{} Uncle Observant Monster |
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On 28/11/2017 08:24, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 2:04:13 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote: On 28/11/2017 07:48, Uncle Monster wrote: On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 1:26:51 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote: On 28/11/2017 06:46, Uncle Monster wrote: On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:34:34 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote: On 28/11/2017 06:15, wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 05:26:27 +0000, Bod wrote: This really surprised me about America's water purity: Marc Edwards, the scientist who first uncovered the crisis in Flint, described water testing in some of America's largest cities as an "outrage". "They make lead in water low when collecting samples for EPA compliance, even as it poisons kids who drink the water," Edwards, a Virginia Tech scientist, said. "Clearly, the cheating and lax enforcement are needlessly harming children all over the United States. "If they cannot be trusted to protect little kids from lead in drinking water, what on Earth can they be trusted with? Who amongst us is safe?" http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...sis-33-cities/ We have been talking about lead in the water for 50 years and they have been selling testing kits for just about that long. Some of it comes from 100 year old pipes in municipal systems in old cities and some comes from lead in the home plumbing. We have always been told that if the pH was high enough and there was enough calcium in the water the lead would be sequestered. In Flint the local water authority simply did not add the same sequestering the chemical that the Detroit operators did (after giving up the contract with them for water) and the water itself was corrosive without it. Once they actually started looking they found this problem existed in lots of places. They had blamed lead in kids on everything but the water up until then (lead paint, lead in gasoline, lead solder in electronics and even lead from bullets). Now they are grudgingly admitting that it may just be from those 100 year old pipes that should have been replaced 60-70 years ago when the cities had the money to do it. Thanks for the explanation. Trump should concentrate on basic living needs, like a healthy domestic water quality supply for all. -- Bod The lead is in the water of those cities run by Democrats/Commiecrats. Lead contamination makes people stupid. The DeCommiecrats want stupid voters. The DeCommiecrat elite have water filtration systems for themselves and their families. ヽ(*_*)ノ [8~{} Uncle Smart Monster Is that the real facts or are you just joshing? -- Bod All the large population centers are run by DeCommiecrats. They stay in power by keeping the population enslaved by promising them free money and stuff. The dumber the voters, the easier it is for the DeCommiecrat elite to stay in power. The DeCommiecrat elites live in luxury while their supporters live in squalor. The Democrats were the slave owners. Overt slavery was outlawed so they came up with another way to enslave Negroes by using government giveaways. The DeCommicrat tactics also ensnare poor Caucasians. There are able bodied people receiving welfare from the government and they're breeding like rabbits with large broods of fatherless children who grow up to be savage thugs. The system is in bad need of reform but anyone who proposes such an action is labeled a racist by the Liberal/Leftist DeCommiecrats. ( *_*) [8~{} Uncle Observant Monster So there are no Republican cities/towns that have high levels of lead in their drinking water? -- Bod Probably not because I'd think a Republican-run city would take action to correct such a life-threatening problem. A Republican enclave will have people who actually work and produce something. If there was a problem with a government-run service, the population would demand action from their elected officials. The people enslaved by the DeCommiecrats are usually too stupid to be aware of or even care that there is a problem. ޏ ὸ.όރ [8~{} Uncle Observant Monster I'm really shocked on hearing that. -- Bod |
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On 11/28/2017 12:26 AM, Bod wrote:
This really surprised me about America's water purity: Marc Edwards, the scientist who first uncovered the crisis in Flint, described water testing in some of America's largest cities as an "outrage". "They make lead in water low when collecting samples for EPA compliance, even as it poisons kids who drink the water," Edwards, a Virginia Tech scientist, said. "Clearly, the cheating and lax enforcement are needlessly harming children all over the United States. "If they cannot be trusted to protect little kids from lead in drinking water, what on Earth can they be trusted with? Who amongst us is safe?" http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...sis-33-cities/ Municipal governments are overrun with nepotism...and they're never STEM graduates. |
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On 28/11/2017 09:43, Mayor's Worthless Kid wrote:
On 11/28/2017 12:26 AM, Bod wrote: This really surprised me about America's water purity: Marc Edwards, the scientist who first uncovered the crisis in Flint, described water testing in some of America's largest cities as an "outrage". "They make lead in water low when collecting samples for EPA compliance, even as it poisons kids who drink the water," Edwards, a Virginia Tech scientist, said. "Clearly, the cheating and lax enforcement are needlessly harming children all over the United States. "If they cannot be trusted to protect little kids from lead in drinking water, what on Earth can they be trusted with? Who amongst us is safe?" http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...sis-33-cities/ Municipal governments are overrun with nepotism...and they're never STEM graduates. Oh dear. -- Bod |
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On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 9:26:29 PM UTC-8, Bod wrote:
This really surprised me about America's water purity: Marc Edwards, the scientist who first uncovered the crisis in Flint, described water testing in some of America's largest cities as an "outrage". "They make lead in water low when collecting samples for EPA compliance, even as it poisons kids who drink the water," Edwards, a Virginia Tech scientist, said. "Clearly, the cheating and lax enforcement are needlessly harming children all over the United States. "If they cannot be trusted to protect little kids from lead in drinking water, what on Earth can they be trusted with? Who amongst us is safe?" http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...sis-33-cities/ -- Bod The Clean Water Act changed the requirements and the republicans warned this type of stories would pop up. We had no mass die offs or little children getting sick before this Act became law. |
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On 28/11/2017 15:08, wrote:
On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 9:26:29 PM UTC-8, Bod wrote: This really surprised me about America's water purity: Marc Edwards, the scientist who first uncovered the crisis in Flint, described water testing in some of America's largest cities as an "outrage". "They make lead in water low when collecting samples for EPA compliance, even as it poisons kids who drink the water," Edwards, a Virginia Tech scientist, said. "Clearly, the cheating and lax enforcement are needlessly harming children all over the United States. "If they cannot be trusted to protect little kids from lead in drinking water, what on Earth can they be trusted with? Who amongst us is safe?" http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...sis-33-cities/ -- Bod The Clean Water Act changed the requirements and the republicans warned this type of stories would pop up. We had no mass die offs or little children getting sick before this Act became law. Oh. -- Bod |
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On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 3:04:13 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
On 28/11/2017 07:48, Uncle Monster wrote: On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 1:26:51 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote: On 28/11/2017 06:46, Uncle Monster wrote: On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:34:34 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote: On 28/11/2017 06:15, wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 05:26:27 +0000, Bod wrote: This really surprised me about America's water purity: Marc Edwards, the scientist who first uncovered the crisis in Flint, described water testing in some of America's largest cities as an "outrage". "They make lead in water low when collecting samples for EPA compliance, even as it poisons kids who drink the water," Edwards, a Virginia Tech scientist, said. "Clearly, the cheating and lax enforcement are needlessly harming children all over the United States. "If they cannot be trusted to protect little kids from lead in drinking water, what on Earth can they be trusted with? Who amongst us is safe?" http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...sis-33-cities/ We have been talking about lead in the water for 50 years and they have been selling testing kits for just about that long. Some of it comes from 100 year old pipes in municipal systems in old cities and some comes from lead in the home plumbing. We have always been told that if the pH was high enough and there was enough calcium in the water the lead would be sequestered. In Flint the local water authority simply did not add the same sequestering the chemical that the Detroit operators did (after giving up the contract with them for water) and the water itself was corrosive without it. Once they actually started looking they found this problem existed in lots of places. They had blamed lead in kids on everything but the water up until then (lead paint, lead in gasoline, lead solder in electronics and even lead from bullets). Now they are grudgingly admitting that it may just be from those 100 year old pipes that should have been replaced 60-70 years ago when the cities had the money to do it. Thanks for the explanation. Trump should concentrate on basic living needs, like a healthy domestic water quality supply for all. -- Bod The lead is in the water of those cities run by Democrats/Commiecrats.. Lead contamination makes people stupid. The DeCommiecrats want stupid voters. The DeCommiecrat elite have water filtration systems for themselves and their families. ヽ(*_*)ノ [8~{} Uncle Smart Monster Is that the real facts or are you just joshing? -- Bod All the large population centers are run by DeCommiecrats. They stay in power by keeping the population enslaved by promising them free money and stuff. The dumber the voters, the easier it is for the DeCommiecrat elite to stay in power. The DeCommiecrat elites live in luxury while their supporters live in squalor. The Democrats were the slave owners. Overt slavery was outlawed so they came up with another way to enslave Negroes by using government giveaways. The DeCommicrat tactics also ensnare poor Caucasians. There are able bodied people receiving welfare from the government and they're breeding like rabbits with large broods of fatherless children who grow up to be savage thugs. The system is in bad need of reform but anyone who proposes such an action is labeled a racist by the Liberal/Leftist DeCommiecrats. ( *_*) [8~{} Uncle Observant Monster So there are no Republican cities/towns that have high levels of lead in their drinking water? Most of the cities currently being run by Republicans are not in the North or Northeast, where lead in the drinking water is a big problem. The Republican cities in the South or Southwest might have been founded quite a while ago, but did not attract large numbers of residents until fairly recently. Hence, lead in their plumbing is not as common. I agree that the time to replace the plumbing in Flint was when the city had money. However, we can't jump in a time machine and do that. We have to deal with the problem that's in front of us. Cindy Hamilton |
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On 11/28/2017 1:34 AM, Bod wrote:
Thanks for the explanation. Trump should concentrate on basic living needs, like a healthy domestic water quality supply for all. Then he would not have time to send congratulations to Harry, a thing you deemed important in another post. |
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On 28/11/2017 15:38, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 11/28/2017 1:34 AM, Bod wrote: Thanks for the explanation. Trump should concentrate on basic living needs, like a healthy domestic water quality supply for all. Then he would not have time to send congratulations to Harry, a thing you deemed important in another post. I didn't comment on it, I just sent the report to see what people thought of it. I never mentioned any importance to me personally. -- Bod |
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On 11/28/2017 10:48 AM, Bod wrote:
On 28/11/2017 15:38, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 11/28/2017 1:34 AM, Bod wrote: Thanks for the explanation. Trump should concentrate on basic living needs, like a healthy domestic water quality supply for all. Then he would not have time to send congratulations to Harry, a thing you deemed important in another post. I didn't comment on it, I just sent the report to see what people thought of it. I never mentioned any importance to me personally. If you didn't think anything of it, you would not have bothered. |
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On 28/11/2017 16:25, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 11/28/2017 10:48 AM, Bod wrote: On 28/11/2017 15:38, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 11/28/2017 1:34 AM, Bod wrote: Thanks for the explanation. Trump should concentrate on basic living needs, like a healthy domestic water quality supply for all. Then he would not have time to send congratulations to Harry, a thing you deemed important in another post. * I didn't comment on it, I just sent the report to see what people thought of it. I never mentioned any importance to me personally. If you didn't think anything of it, you would not have bothered. Wrong, I wanted to hear what you and others thought about it. Just curious. -- Bod |
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The Nation's Poisonous Water Problem Is Far Worse Than You Think
On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 07:26:46 +0000, Bod wrote:
On 28/11/2017 06:46, Uncle Monster wrote: On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:34:34 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote: On 28/11/2017 06:15, wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 05:26:27 +0000, Bod wrote: This really surprised me about America's water purity: Marc Edwards, the scientist who first uncovered the crisis in Flint, described water testing in some of America's largest cities as an "outrage". "They make lead in water low when collecting samples for EPA compliance, even as it poisons kids who drink the water," Edwards, a Virginia Tech scientist, said. "Clearly, the cheating and lax enforcement are needlessly harming children all over the United States. "If they cannot be trusted to protect little kids from lead in drinking water, what on Earth can they be trusted with? Who amongst us is safe?" http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...sis-33-cities/ We have been talking about lead in the water for 50 years and they have been selling testing kits for just about that long. Some of it comes from 100 year old pipes in municipal systems in old cities and some comes from lead in the home plumbing. We have always been told that if the pH was high enough and there was enough calcium in the water the lead would be sequestered. In Flint the local water authority simply did not add the same sequestering the chemical that the Detroit operators did (after giving up the contract with them for water) and the water itself was corrosive without it. Once they actually started looking they found this problem existed in lots of places. They had blamed lead in kids on everything but the water up until then (lead paint, lead in gasoline, lead solder in electronics and even lead from bullets). Now they are grudgingly admitting that it may just be from those 100 year old pipes that should have been replaced 60-70 years ago when the cities had the money to do it. Thanks for the explanation. Trump should concentrate on basic living needs, like a healthy domestic water quality supply for all. -- Bod The lead is in the water of those cities run by Democrats/Commiecrats. Lead contamination makes people stupid. The DeCommiecrats want stupid voters. The DeCommiecrat elite have water filtration systems for themselves and their families. ?(?_?)? [8~{} Uncle Smart Monster Is that the real facts or are you just joshing? It is more true than it would seem. None of these old cities are being run by republicans although they might be in a state with a GOP governor. Usually the cities will not talk to the state unless they want money. They certainly don't want advice. It is also true that people with money will buy an R/O that takes out just about all of the contaminants and they also like bottled water, usually imported. (typically Pelligrinio or Evian) |
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 08:04:07 +0000, Bod wrote:
So there are no Republican cities/towns that have high levels of lead in their drinking water? Most cities are run by democrats, particularly the old ones with lead pipe. A lot of this lead actually comes from the residential plumbing tho. Certainly per capita, it is a democrat problem just because of the size of the big blue cities ... and they are all broke, verging on bankruptcy. They can't afford to do much about it and the affected residents are broke too. That is why the government was giving away lead filters in Flint. Most of the residents could not afford to buy them. The interesting thing is Washington DC may be the second worst city in the US for lead, after Flint. Maybe lead in the water explains why long term congress people act as dumb as they do ;-) It is true that the oldest pipes are in the parts of DC where the politicians tend to work and live. That is also where the oldest sewer systems are. Those are the ones that mix storm drains with sewers and frequently overload on rainy days, dumping raw sewage in the river. |
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On 28/11/2017 17:47, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 07:26:46 +0000, Bod wrote: On 28/11/2017 06:46, Uncle Monster wrote: On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:34:34 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote: On 28/11/2017 06:15, wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 05:26:27 +0000, Bod wrote: This really surprised me about America's water purity: Marc Edwards, the scientist who first uncovered the crisis in Flint, described water testing in some of America's largest cities as an "outrage". "They make lead in water low when collecting samples for EPA compliance, even as it poisons kids who drink the water," Edwards, a Virginia Tech scientist, said. "Clearly, the cheating and lax enforcement are needlessly harming children all over the United States. "If they cannot be trusted to protect little kids from lead in drinking water, what on Earth can they be trusted with? Who amongst us is safe?" http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...sis-33-cities/ We have been talking about lead in the water for 50 years and they have been selling testing kits for just about that long. Some of it comes from 100 year old pipes in municipal systems in old cities and some comes from lead in the home plumbing. We have always been told that if the pH was high enough and there was enough calcium in the water the lead would be sequestered. In Flint the local water authority simply did not add the same sequestering the chemical that the Detroit operators did (after giving up the contract with them for water) and the water itself was corrosive without it. Once they actually started looking they found this problem existed in lots of places. They had blamed lead in kids on everything but the water up until then (lead paint, lead in gasoline, lead solder in electronics and even lead from bullets). Now they are grudgingly admitting that it may just be from those 100 year old pipes that should have been replaced 60-70 years ago when the cities had the money to do it. Thanks for the explanation. Trump should concentrate on basic living needs, like a healthy domestic water quality supply for all. -- Bod The lead is in the water of those cities run by Democrats/Commiecrats. Lead contamination makes people stupid. The DeCommiecrats want stupid voters. The DeCommiecrat elite have water filtration systems for themselves and their families. ?(?_?)? [8~{} Uncle Smart Monster Is that the real facts or are you just joshing? It is more true than it would seem. None of these old cities are being run by republicans although they might be in a state with a GOP governor. Usually the cities will not talk to the state unless they want money. They certainly don't want advice. It is also true that people with money will buy an R/O that takes out just about all of the contaminants and they also like bottled water, usually imported. (typically Pelligrinio or Evian) Hmm, I live and learn. Thanks. -- Bod |
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:32:53 +0000, Bod wrote:
On 28/11/2017 18:02, wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 08:04:07 +0000, Bod wrote: So there are no Republican cities/towns that have high levels of lead in their drinking water? Most cities are run by democrats, particularly the old ones with lead pipe. A lot of this lead actually comes from the residential plumbing tho. Certainly per capita, it is a democrat problem just because of the size of the big blue cities ... and they are all broke, verging on bankruptcy. They can't afford to do much about it and the affected residents are broke too. That is why the government was giving away lead filters in Flint. Most of the residents could not afford to buy them. The interesting thing is Washington DC may be the second worst city in the US for lead, after Flint. Maybe lead in the water explains why long term congress people act as dumb as they do ;-) It is true that the oldest pipes are in the parts of DC where the politicians tend to work and live. That is also where the oldest sewer systems are. Those are the ones that mix storm drains with sewers and frequently overload on rainy days, dumping raw sewage in the river. That's interesting and sad at the same time. Hard to believe that the USA of all countries could not sort these problems out. I mean America being one of the richest countries in the world. America has three sovernties. Federal, state and Native American. Each with their power. The problems in places like Flint, Detroit and others is corrupt democrats. Look at how many have gone to jail. Unions, un funded pensions, the list goes on. As Maggie used to say "pretty soon you run out of other people's money"... The reason San Francisco got all the homosexuals and San Diego got all the lawyers was because San Diego got the first vote. |
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:32:53 +0000, Bod wrote:
On 28/11/2017 18:02, wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 08:04:07 +0000, Bod wrote: So there are no Republican cities/towns that have high levels of lead in their drinking water? Most cities are run by democrats, particularly the old ones with lead pipe. A lot of this lead actually comes from the residential plumbing tho. Certainly per capita, it is a democrat problem just because of the size of the big blue cities ... and they are all broke, verging on bankruptcy. They can't afford to do much about it and the affected residents are broke too. That is why the government was giving away lead filters in Flint. Most of the residents could not afford to buy them. The interesting thing is Washington DC may be the second worst city in the US for lead, after Flint. Maybe lead in the water explains why long term congress people act as dumb as they do ;-) It is true that the oldest pipes are in the parts of DC where the politicians tend to work and live. That is also where the oldest sewer systems are. Those are the ones that mix storm drains with sewers and frequently overload on rainy days, dumping raw sewage in the river. That's interesting and sad at the same time. Hard to believe that the USA of all countries could not sort these problems out. I mean America being one of the richest countries in the world. The problem is the cities where these things are happening, for the most part, are broke. They made bad contracts with the union government workers back when they were fat and now their industry moved away, the income stream slowed down and they have tens of thousands of retired employees making 5 and 6 figure pensions that were not properly funded. The money to replace these pipes is simply not there. We also have a federal government that is $20 TRILLION in the red with more unfunded pension liabilities than the cities have (including federal pensions, social security and medicare) and an electorate who does not want to pay taxes. I am not sure we are really as rich as people think. |
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On 11/28/2017 7:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 3:04:13 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote: On 28/11/2017 07:48, Uncle Monster wrote: On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 1:26:51 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote: On 28/11/2017 06:46, Uncle Monster wrote: On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:34:34 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote: On 28/11/2017 06:15, wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 05:26:27 +0000, Bod wrote: This really surprised me about America's water purity: Marc Edwards, the scientist who first uncovered the crisis in Flint, described water testing in some of America's largest cities as an "outrage". "They make lead in water low when collecting samples for EPA compliance, even as it poisons kids who drink the water," Edwards, a Virginia Tech scientist, said. "Clearly, the cheating and lax enforcement are needlessly harming children all over the United States. "If they cannot be trusted to protect little kids from lead in drinking water, what on Earth can they be trusted with? Who amongst us is safe?" http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...sis-33-cities/ We have been talking about lead in the water for 50 years and they have been selling testing kits for just about that long. Some of it comes from 100 year old pipes in municipal systems in old cities and some comes from lead in the home plumbing. We have always been told that if the pH was high enough and there was enough calcium in the water the lead would be sequestered. In Flint the local water authority simply did not add the same sequestering the chemical that the Detroit operators did (after giving up the contract with them for water) and the water itself was corrosive without it. Once they actually started looking they found this problem existed in lots of places. They had blamed lead in kids on everything but the water up until then (lead paint, lead in gasoline, lead solder in electronics and even lead from bullets). Now they are grudgingly admitting that it may just be from those 100 year old pipes that should have been replaced 60-70 years ago when the cities had the money to do it. Thanks for the explanation. Trump should concentrate on basic living needs, like a healthy domestic water quality supply for all. -- Bod The lead is in the water of those cities run by Democrats/Commiecrats. Lead contamination makes people stupid. The DeCommiecrats want stupid voters. The DeCommiecrat elite have water filtration systems for themselves and their families. ヽ(*_*)ノ [8~{} Uncle Smart Monster Is that the real facts or are you just joshing? -- Bod All the large population centers are run by DeCommiecrats. They stay in power by keeping the population enslaved by promising them free money and stuff. The dumber the voters, the easier it is for the DeCommiecrat elite to stay in power. The DeCommiecrat elites live in luxury while their supporters live in squalor. The Democrats were the slave owners. Overt slavery was outlawed so they came up with another way to enslave Negroes by using government giveaways. The DeCommicrat tactics also ensnare poor Caucasians. There are able bodied people receiving welfare from the government and they're breeding like rabbits with large broods of fatherless children who grow up to be savage thugs. The system is in bad need of reform but anyone who proposes such an action is labeled a racist by the Liberal/Leftist DeCommiecrats. ( *_*) [8~{} Uncle Observant Monster So there are no Republican cities/towns that have high levels of lead in their drinking water? Most of the cities currently being run by Republicans are not in the North or Northeast, where lead in the drinking water is a big problem. The Republican cities in the South or Southwest might have been founded quite a while ago, but did not attract large numbers of residents until fairly recently. Hence, lead in their plumbing is not as common. I agree that the time to replace the plumbing in Flint was when the city had money. However, we can't jump in a time machine and do that. We have to deal with the problem that's in front of us. It would not have become a problem if the Republican appointed "administrator" had not chosen to stupidly try to get cheaper water by rejecting the safe Detroit water used previously, and use the unsafe Flint river water with no effective treatment. |
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On 11/28/2017 11:38 AM, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:42:00 -0500, wrote: I am really not worried about it at my house because we have plastic pipe, no solder and a well. I suppose we will find out the vinyl chlorides are killing us now ;-( Do the faucets have any lead or Zinc used in production of parts :-) Bought a new construction house in Nevada in 1995. There was a California rider to sign that the faucets _may_ have had lead used. Heck, when I was a kid we played with mercury from the old T-stats. Never hurt me -- twitch twitch. We can see otherwise. |
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:04:34 -0800, Bob F wrote:
I agree that the time to replace the plumbing in Flint was when the city had money. However, we can't jump in a time machine and do that. We have to deal with the problem that's in front of us. It would not have become a problem if the Republican appointed "administrator" had not chosen to stupidly try to get cheaper water by rejecting the safe Detroit water used previously, and use the unsafe Flint river water with no effective treatment. It was the city water authority who decided to not add the anti corrosive that the Detroit system uses and it was also Detroit that terminated the contract. The water was pretty much the same, it was the missing chemical that caused the problem. You really have to step back several years and see that it was the city of Flint who decided to pipe in the water from Lake Huron to save that money but their pipeline project was running at least 3 years behind schedule. They still would have needed the anti corrosive tho. |
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On 11/28/2017 8:21 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:04:34 -0800, Bob F wrote: I agree that the time to replace the plumbing in Flint was when the city had money. However, we can't jump in a time machine and do that. We have to deal with the problem that's in front of us. It would not have become a problem if the Republican appointed "administrator" had not chosen to stupidly try to get cheaper water by rejecting the safe Detroit water used previously, and use the unsafe Flint river water with no effective treatment. It was the city water authority who decided to not add the anti corrosive that the Detroit system uses and it was also Detroit that terminated the contract. The water was pretty much the same, it was the missing chemical that caused the problem. You really have to step back several years and see that it was the city of Flint who decided to pipe in the water from Lake Huron to save that money but their pipeline project was running at least 3 years behind schedule. They still would have needed the anti corrosive tho. Really? Here's the problem with that: City officials did not drive the decision to take water from the Flint River. There was never such a vote by the city council, which really didn't have the power to make such a decision anyway, because the city was under the control of a state-appointed emergency manager. The council's vote in March 2013 was to switch water supply from Detroit to a new pipeline through the Karegnondi Water Authority - but the pipeline wasn't scheduled to be completed for at least three years. (And even that decision was given final approval not by the council, but by then-state Treasurer Andy Dillon, according to Snyder emails released Wednesday.) Snyder said that Detroit, after being informed of the Flint council vote, sent a "letter of termination" of water service. Detroit sent a letter giving Flint one year on its existing contract, but that didn't mean Flint couldn't get water from Detroit after that date. In fact, there was a flurry of negotiations between Detroit and Flint to sign a new contract that would carry Flint through until it could connect to the under-construction pipeline. That new contract was going to cost Flint more money. http://www.mlive.com/politics/index....who_appro.html |
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:26:42 -0800, Bob F wrote:
On 11/28/2017 8:21 PM, wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:04:34 -0800, Bob F wrote: I agree that the time to replace the plumbing in Flint was when the city had money. However, we can't jump in a time machine and do that. We have to deal with the problem that's in front of us. It would not have become a problem if the Republican appointed "administrator" had not chosen to stupidly try to get cheaper water by rejecting the safe Detroit water used previously, and use the unsafe Flint river water with no effective treatment. It was the city water authority who decided to not add the anti corrosive that the Detroit system uses and it was also Detroit that terminated the contract. The water was pretty much the same, it was the missing chemical that caused the problem. You really have to step back several years and see that it was the city of Flint who decided to pipe in the water from Lake Huron to save that money but their pipeline project was running at least 3 years behind schedule. They still would have needed the anti corrosive tho. Really? Here's the problem with that: City officials did not drive the decision to take water from the Flint River. There was never such a vote by the city council, which really didn't have the power to make such a decision anyway, because the city was under the control of a state-appointed emergency manager. The council's vote in March 2013 was to switch water supply from Detroit to a new pipeline through the Karegnondi Water Authority - but the pipeline wasn't scheduled to be completed for at least three years. (And even that decision was given final approval not by the council, but by then-state Treasurer Andy Dillon, according to Snyder emails released Wednesday.) Snyder said that Detroit, after being informed of the Flint council vote, sent a "letter of termination" of water service. Detroit sent a letter giving Flint one year on its existing contract, but that didn't mean Flint couldn't get water from Detroit after that date. In fact, there was a flurry of negotiations between Detroit and Flint to sign a new contract that would carry Flint through until it could connect to the under-construction pipeline. That new contract was going to cost Flint more money. http://www.mlive.com/politics/index....who_appro.html That is pretty much what I said. You just skipped over the part where the Flint water people decided not to add the anti corrosive that Detroit uses for water that tests just about the same. The state did not tell they to do that. I have looked at the water test results and I do understand how to look at water analysis. I have been a state water quality monitor for 16 years. |
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:06:14 -0800, Bob F wrote:
On 11/28/2017 11:38 AM, Oren wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:42:00 -0500, wrote: I am really not worried about it at my house because we have plastic pipe, no solder and a well. I suppose we will find out the vinyl chlorides are killing us now ;-( Do the faucets have any lead or Zinc used in production of parts :-) Bought a new construction house in Nevada in 1995. There was a California rider to sign that the faucets _may_ have had lead used. Heck, when I was a kid we played with mercury from the old T-stats. Never hurt me -- twitch twitch. We can see otherwise. Who is "we", Bob? Got a mouse in your pocket?! |
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