A few days ago I was commenting that one of the "new" computers I just
built was continuously crashing and having problems . Sent the motherboard
back to the vendor , who tested it and found it was bad . New board on the
way . I used the same board in another comp , and it runs great , stable and
doing well . I'll be glad to get everything organized and settled again .
New RAM is on it's way from HK so I can max out both comps . I like the
vendor , he/they messaged me asking questions about the motherboard and
processor . They wanted to be sure their RAM is compatible with my equipment
before they shipped it . I like that , and it's probably at least part of
the reason they have a 100% satisfaction rating . Vendor is computex_tech on
ebay .
--
Snag

On 4/28/2017 12:46 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
A few days ago I was commenting that one of the "new" computers I just
built was continuously crashing and having problems . Sent the motherboard
back to the vendor , who tested it and found it was bad . New board on the
way . I used the same board in another comp , and it runs great , stable and
doing well . I'll be glad to get everything organized and settled again .
New RAM is on it's way from HK so I can max out both comps . I like the
vendor , he/they messaged me asking questions about the motherboard and
processor . They wanted to be sure their RAM is compatible with my equipment
before they shipped it . I like that , and it's probably at least part of
the reason they have a 100% satisfaction rating . Vendor is computex_tech on
ebay .
--
Snag


I've bought all my memory from Crucial and never had a problem. They
have a program you can use to check compatibility with your machine.

On 04/28/2017 11:54 AM, Frank wrote:
On 4/28/2017 12:46 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
A few days ago I was commenting that one of the "new" computers I just
built was continuously crashing and having problems . Sent the
motherboard
back to the vendor , who tested it and found it was bad . New board on
the
way . I used the same board in another comp , and it runs great ,
stable and
doing well . I'll be glad to get everything organized and settled again .
New RAM is on it's way from HK so I can max out both comps . I
like the
vendor , he/they messaged me asking questions about the motherboard and
processor . They wanted to be sure their RAM is compatible with my
equipment
before they shipped it . I like that , and it's probably at least part of
the reason they have a 100% satisfaction rating . Vendor is
computex_tech on
ebay .
--
Snag


I've bought all my memory from Crucial and never had a problem. They
have a program you can use to check compatibility with your machine.



If I work on a machine for someone else, I usually go for the best parts
possible...but for one of my own machines, at least one that is not
critical, I sometimes take chances.


On eBay I saw some super cheap RAM ...from China...that said it would
only work with an AMD CPU. Since I had a few machines with AMD
processors that needed more RAM I decided to order some...it was only $2
a stick.

When I placed the order they did not process it at first ...they emailed
me to make sure I understood it was AMD only and only after I told them
I understood...did they process the order.


One of the sticks was bad and when I informed them I told them that for
$2 they need not send a replacement but to my surprise they immediately
refunded $2.

The rest of the RAM has been running fine for about a year now...

I suspect the RAM was cheap simply because they did not have a quality
control department.


Bottom line though, I was dealing with China and they were pretty good
about their dealings.

philo wrote:
On 04/28/2017 11:54 AM, Frank wrote:
On 4/28/2017 12:46 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
A few days ago I was commenting that one of the "new" computers
I just built was continuously crashing and having problems . Sent
the motherboard
back to the vendor , who tested it and found it was bad . New board
on the
way . I used the same board in another comp , and it runs great ,
stable and
doing well . I'll be glad to get everything organized and settled
again . New RAM is on it's way from HK so I can max out both
comps . I like the
vendor , he/they messaged me asking questions about the motherboard
and processor . They wanted to be sure their RAM is compatible with
my equipment
before they shipped it . I like that , and it's probably at least
part of the reason they have a 100% satisfaction rating . Vendor is
computex_tech on
ebay .
--
Snag


I've bought all my memory from Crucial and never had a problem. They
have a program you can use to check compatibility with your machine.



If I work on a machine for someone else, I usually go for the best
parts possible...but for one of my own machines, at least one that is
not critical, I sometimes take chances.


On eBay I saw some super cheap RAM ...from China...that said it would
only work with an AMD CPU. Since I had a few machines with AMD
processors that needed more RAM I decided to order some...it was only
$2 a stick.

When I placed the order they did not process it at first ...they
emailed me to make sure I understood it was AMD only and only after I
told them I understood...did they process the order.


One of the sticks was bad and when I informed them I told them that
for $2 they need not send a replacement but to my surprise they
immediately refunded $2.

The rest of the RAM has been running fine for about a year now...

I suspect the RAM was cheap simply because they did not have a quality
control department.


Bottom line though, I was dealing with China and they were pretty good
about their dealings.

I've had both good and bad dealings with Chinese merchants . Some bend
over backwards to please , others act like you've insulted their family for
the last 3 generations by even hinting that their product is less than
perfect .

--
Snag

On 04/28/2017 12:53 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:

When I placed the order they did not process it at first ...they
emailed me to make sure I understood it was AMD only and only after I
told them I understood...did they process the order.


One of the sticks was bad and when I informed them I told them that
for $2 they need not send a replacement but to my surprise they
immediately refunded $2.

The rest of the RAM has been running fine for about a year now...

I suspect the RAM was cheap simply because they did not have a quality
control department.


Bottom line though, I was dealing with China and they were pretty good
about their dealings.

I've had both good and bad dealings with Chinese merchants . Some bend
over backwards to please , others act like you've insulted their family for
the last 3 generations by even hinting that their product is less than
perfect .




The only problem I had was with a motherboard MFG. It was a major name
but I can't recall now.


I did a BIOS upgrade and when I got done flashing it I got a message the
the upgrade failed . I got scared that I bricked the thing but it worked
and the new BIOS was installed.

I contacted tech support to tell them about the bug but there was
probably no one there that understood English. Basically, no matter how
many times I contacted them I got one of four different canned responses
having BIOS in the context.

On 4/28/2017 1:53 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
philo wrote:
On 04/28/2017 11:54 AM, Frank wrote:
On 4/28/2017 12:46 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
A few days ago I was commenting that one of the "new" computers
I just built was continuously crashing and having problems . Sent
the motherboard
back to the vendor , who tested it and found it was bad . New board
on the
way . I used the same board in another comp , and it runs great ,
stable and
doing well . I'll be glad to get everything organized and settled
again . New RAM is on it's way from HK so I can max out both
comps . I like the
vendor , he/they messaged me asking questions about the motherboard
and processor . They wanted to be sure their RAM is compatible with
my equipment
before they shipped it . I like that , and it's probably at least
part of the reason they have a 100% satisfaction rating . Vendor is
computex_tech on
ebay .
--
Snag


I've bought all my memory from Crucial and never had a problem. They
have a program you can use to check compatibility with your machine.



If I work on a machine for someone else, I usually go for the best
parts possible...but for one of my own machines, at least one that is
not critical, I sometimes take chances.


On eBay I saw some super cheap RAM ...from China...that said it would
only work with an AMD CPU. Since I had a few machines with AMD
processors that needed more RAM I decided to order some...it was only
$2 a stick.

When I placed the order they did not process it at first ...they
emailed me to make sure I understood it was AMD only and only after I
told them I understood...did they process the order.


One of the sticks was bad and when I informed them I told them that
for $2 they need not send a replacement but to my surprise they
immediately refunded $2.

The rest of the RAM has been running fine for about a year now...

I suspect the RAM was cheap simply because they did not have a quality
control department.


Bottom line though, I was dealing with China and they were pretty good
about their dealings.

I've had both good and bad dealings with Chinese merchants . Some bend
over backwards to please , others act like you've insulted their family for
the last 3 generations by even hinting that their product is less than
perfect .

I think it is a crap shoot looking for cheapest stuff. I've never
shopped ebay but my brother-in-law has bought stuff for my wife which
turned out to be crap. Chinese stuff might be good or bad and US stuff
may even be the same but quality control should be better and they
filter out the bad. Worth paying for.

On 04/28/2017 01:36 PM, Frank wrote:


snip
I think it is a crap shoot looking for cheapest stuff. I've never
shopped ebay but my brother-in-law has bought stuff for my wife which
turned out to be crap. Chinese stuff might be good or bad and US stuff
may even be the same but quality control should be better and they
filter out the bad. Worth paying for.


Here is where it all started for me.

I do a lot of computer repair work and one day the unbelievable thing
happened...I ran out of CMOS batteries!


No big deal, I'll just run over to the local drug store and pick one up,
I'll pay a bit too much but big deal.

A battery which should have been may $2.50 was marked $7 !

No way could I do that.

I went on line and ordered from China.

Price was $2.58 but that is not the whole story. $2.58 for TWENTY
of them and that INCLUDED shipping!!! 13 cents each I guess


They arrived in ten days and they are A-1 .

Identical as far as I can tell to the $7 drugstore variety.

On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:36:15 -0400, Frank "frank wrote:

On 4/28/2017 1:53 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
philo wrote:
On 04/28/2017 11:54 AM, Frank wrote:
On 4/28/2017 12:46 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
A few days ago I was commenting that one of the "new" computers
I just built was continuously crashing and having problems . Sent
the motherboard
back to the vendor , who tested it and found it was bad . New board
on the
way . I used the same board in another comp , and it runs great ,
stable and
doing well . I'll be glad to get everything organized and settled
again . New RAM is on it's way from HK so I can max out both
comps . I like the
vendor , he/they messaged me asking questions about the motherboard
and processor . They wanted to be sure their RAM is compatible with
my equipment
before they shipped it . I like that , and it's probably at least
part of the reason they have a 100% satisfaction rating . Vendor is
computex_tech on
ebay .
--
Snag


I've bought all my memory from Crucial and never had a problem. They
have a program you can use to check compatibility with your machine.



If I work on a machine for someone else, I usually go for the best
parts possible...but for one of my own machines, at least one that is
not critical, I sometimes take chances.


On eBay I saw some super cheap RAM ...from China...that said it would
only work with an AMD CPU. Since I had a few machines with AMD
processors that needed more RAM I decided to order some...it was only
$2 a stick.

When I placed the order they did not process it at first ...they
emailed me to make sure I understood it was AMD only and only after I
told them I understood...did they process the order.


One of the sticks was bad and when I informed them I told them that
for $2 they need not send a replacement but to my surprise they
immediately refunded $2.

The rest of the RAM has been running fine for about a year now...

I suspect the RAM was cheap simply because they did not have a quality
control department.


Bottom line though, I was dealing with China and they were pretty good
about their dealings.

I've had both good and bad dealings with Chinese merchants . Some bend
over backwards to please , others act like you've insulted their family for
the last 3 generations by even hinting that their product is less than
perfect .

I think it is a crap shoot looking for cheapest stuff. I've never
shopped ebay but my brother-in-law has bought stuff for my wife which
turned out to be crap. Chinese stuff might be good or bad and US stuff
may even be the same but quality control should be better and they
filter out the bad. Worth paying for.
I've had at least as much trouble buying chinese crap from american
suppliers as from Chinese. The pros? Faster shipping from US resellers
(when they have stock)
Cons? Pay 4 or 5 times as much, PLUS shipping. Don't know how the
Chinese can ship half way around the world for free on a 50 cent part
that costs me 5 or 6 bucks from Texas or California, plus 9 bucks or
more for shipping - - - -

As far as computers are concerned, I've given up building them - I
buy ready built with a warranty and I keep my hair!!!

On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:54:17 -0400, Frank "frank wrote:

I've bought all my memory from Crucial and never had a problem. They
have a program you can use to check compatibility with your machine.

+1 I think they have the best quality, never had their RAM fail. They
have or once had a reference page. Put in the numbers from your
current RAM and it would give you the needed one from the Crucial
product line. Easy to match what you needed.

On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:50:47 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:54:17 -0400, Frank "frank wrote:

I've bought all my memory from Crucial and never had a problem. They
have a program you can use to check compatibility with your machine.

+1 I think they have the best quality, never had their RAM fail. They
have or once had a reference page. Put in the numbers from your
current RAM and it would give you the needed one from the Crucial
product line. Easy to match what you needed.
I've had rare failures on both Crucial and Kingston. VERY rare - but
they do happen occaisionally.

On 4/28/2017 9:46 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
A few days ago I was commenting that one of the "new" computers I just
built was continuously crashing and having problems . Sent the motherboard
back to the vendor , who tested it and found it was bad . New board on the
way . I used the same board in another comp , and it runs great , stable and
doing well . I'll be glad to get everything organized and settled again .
New RAM is on it's way from HK so I can max out both comps . I like the
vendor , he/they messaged me asking questions about the motherboard and
processor . They wanted to be sure their RAM is compatible with my equipment
before they shipped it . I like that , and it's probably at least part of
the reason they have a 100% satisfaction rating . Vendor is computex_tech on
ebay .
--
Snag


Who gives a ****?