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A few days ago I was commenting that one of the "new" computers I just
built was continuously crashing and having problems . Sent the motherboard back to the vendor , who tested it and found it was bad . New board on the way . I used the same board in another comp , and it runs great , stable and doing well . I'll be glad to get everything organized and settled again . New RAM is on it's way from HK so I can max out both comps . I like the vendor , he/they messaged me asking questions about the motherboard and processor . They wanted to be sure their RAM is compatible with my equipment before they shipped it . I like that , and it's probably at least part of the reason they have a 100% satisfaction rating . Vendor is computex_tech on ebay . -- Snag |
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On 4/28/2017 12:46 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
A few days ago I was commenting that one of the "new" computers I just built was continuously crashing and having problems . Sent the motherboard back to the vendor , who tested it and found it was bad . New board on the way . I used the same board in another comp , and it runs great , stable and doing well . I'll be glad to get everything organized and settled again . New RAM is on it's way from HK so I can max out both comps . I like the vendor , he/they messaged me asking questions about the motherboard and processor . They wanted to be sure their RAM is compatible with my equipment before they shipped it . I like that , and it's probably at least part of the reason they have a 100% satisfaction rating . Vendor is computex_tech on ebay . -- Snag I've bought all my memory from Crucial and never had a problem. They have a program you can use to check compatibility with your machine. |
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On 04/28/2017 11:54 AM, Frank wrote:
On 4/28/2017 12:46 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: A few days ago I was commenting that one of the "new" computers I just built was continuously crashing and having problems . Sent the motherboard back to the vendor , who tested it and found it was bad . New board on the way . I used the same board in another comp , and it runs great , stable and doing well . I'll be glad to get everything organized and settled again . New RAM is on it's way from HK so I can max out both comps . I like the vendor , he/they messaged me asking questions about the motherboard and processor . They wanted to be sure their RAM is compatible with my equipment before they shipped it . I like that , and it's probably at least part of the reason they have a 100% satisfaction rating . Vendor is computex_tech on ebay . -- Snag I've bought all my memory from Crucial and never had a problem. They have a program you can use to check compatibility with your machine. If I work on a machine for someone else, I usually go for the best parts possible...but for one of my own machines, at least one that is not critical, I sometimes take chances. On eBay I saw some super cheap RAM ...from China...that said it would only work with an AMD CPU. Since I had a few machines with AMD processors that needed more RAM I decided to order some...it was only $2 a stick. When I placed the order they did not process it at first ...they emailed me to make sure I understood it was AMD only and only after I told them I understood...did they process the order. One of the sticks was bad and when I informed them I told them that for $2 they need not send a replacement but to my surprise they immediately refunded $2. The rest of the RAM has been running fine for about a year now... I suspect the RAM was cheap simply because they did not have a quality control department. Bottom line though, I was dealing with China and they were pretty good about their dealings. |
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philo wrote:
On 04/28/2017 11:54 AM, Frank wrote: On 4/28/2017 12:46 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: A few days ago I was commenting that one of the "new" computers I just built was continuously crashing and having problems . Sent the motherboard back to the vendor , who tested it and found it was bad . New board on the way . I used the same board in another comp , and it runs great , stable and doing well . I'll be glad to get everything organized and settled again . New RAM is on it's way from HK so I can max out both comps . I like the vendor , he/they messaged me asking questions about the motherboard and processor . They wanted to be sure their RAM is compatible with my equipment before they shipped it . I like that , and it's probably at least part of the reason they have a 100% satisfaction rating . Vendor is computex_tech on ebay . -- Snag I've bought all my memory from Crucial and never had a problem. They have a program you can use to check compatibility with your machine. If I work on a machine for someone else, I usually go for the best parts possible...but for one of my own machines, at least one that is not critical, I sometimes take chances. On eBay I saw some super cheap RAM ...from China...that said it would only work with an AMD CPU. Since I had a few machines with AMD processors that needed more RAM I decided to order some...it was only $2 a stick. When I placed the order they did not process it at first ...they emailed me to make sure I understood it was AMD only and only after I told them I understood...did they process the order. One of the sticks was bad and when I informed them I told them that for $2 they need not send a replacement but to my surprise they immediately refunded $2. The rest of the RAM has been running fine for about a year now... I suspect the RAM was cheap simply because they did not have a quality control department. Bottom line though, I was dealing with China and they were pretty good about their dealings. I've had both good and bad dealings with Chinese merchants . Some bend over backwards to please , others act like you've insulted their family for the last 3 generations by even hinting that their product is less than perfect . -- Snag |
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On 04/28/2017 12:53 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
When I placed the order they did not process it at first ...they emailed me to make sure I understood it was AMD only and only after I told them I understood...did they process the order. One of the sticks was bad and when I informed them I told them that for $2 they need not send a replacement but to my surprise they immediately refunded $2. The rest of the RAM has been running fine for about a year now... I suspect the RAM was cheap simply because they did not have a quality control department. Bottom line though, I was dealing with China and they were pretty good about their dealings. I've had both good and bad dealings with Chinese merchants . Some bend over backwards to please , others act like you've insulted their family for the last 3 generations by even hinting that their product is less than perfect . The only problem I had was with a motherboard MFG. It was a major name but I can't recall now. I did a BIOS upgrade and when I got done flashing it I got a message the the upgrade failed . I got scared that I bricked the thing but it worked and the new BIOS was installed. I contacted tech support to tell them about the bug but there was probably no one there that understood English. Basically, no matter how many times I contacted them I got one of four different canned responses having BIOS in the context. |
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On 4/28/2017 1:53 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
philo wrote: On 04/28/2017 11:54 AM, Frank wrote: On 4/28/2017 12:46 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: A few days ago I was commenting that one of the "new" computers I just built was continuously crashing and having problems . Sent the motherboard back to the vendor , who tested it and found it was bad . New board on the way . I used the same board in another comp , and it runs great , stable and doing well . I'll be glad to get everything organized and settled again . New RAM is on it's way from HK so I can max out both comps . I like the vendor , he/they messaged me asking questions about the motherboard and processor . They wanted to be sure their RAM is compatible with my equipment before they shipped it . I like that , and it's probably at least part of the reason they have a 100% satisfaction rating . Vendor is computex_tech on ebay . -- Snag I've bought all my memory from Crucial and never had a problem. They have a program you can use to check compatibility with your machine. If I work on a machine for someone else, I usually go for the best parts possible...but for one of my own machines, at least one that is not critical, I sometimes take chances. On eBay I saw some super cheap RAM ...from China...that said it would only work with an AMD CPU. Since I had a few machines with AMD processors that needed more RAM I decided to order some...it was only $2 a stick. When I placed the order they did not process it at first ...they emailed me to make sure I understood it was AMD only and only after I told them I understood...did they process the order. One of the sticks was bad and when I informed them I told them that for $2 they need not send a replacement but to my surprise they immediately refunded $2. The rest of the RAM has been running fine for about a year now... I suspect the RAM was cheap simply because they did not have a quality control department. Bottom line though, I was dealing with China and they were pretty good about their dealings. I've had both good and bad dealings with Chinese merchants . Some bend over backwards to please , others act like you've insulted their family for the last 3 generations by even hinting that their product is less than perfect . I think it is a crap shoot looking for cheapest stuff. I've never shopped ebay but my brother-in-law has bought stuff for my wife which turned out to be crap. Chinese stuff might be good or bad and US stuff may even be the same but quality control should be better and they filter out the bad. Worth paying for. |
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:54:17 -0400, Frank "frank wrote:
I've bought all my memory from Crucial and never had a problem. They have a program you can use to check compatibility with your machine. +1 I think they have the best quality, never had their RAM fail. They have or once had a reference page. Put in the numbers from your current RAM and it would give you the needed one from the Crucial product line. Easy to match what you needed. |
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On 04/28/2017 01:36 PM, Frank wrote:
snip I think it is a crap shoot looking for cheapest stuff. I've never shopped ebay but my brother-in-law has bought stuff for my wife which turned out to be crap. Chinese stuff might be good or bad and US stuff may even be the same but quality control should be better and they filter out the bad. Worth paying for. Here is where it all started for me. I do a lot of computer repair work and one day the unbelievable thing happened...I ran out of CMOS batteries! No big deal, I'll just run over to the local drug store and pick one up, I'll pay a bit too much but big deal. A battery which should have been may $2.50 was marked $7 ! No way could I do that. I went on line and ordered from China. Price was $2.58 but that is not the whole story. $2.58 for TWENTY of them and that INCLUDED shipping!!! 13 cents each I guess They arrived in ten days and they are A-1 . Identical as far as I can tell to the $7 drugstore variety. |
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On 4/28/2017 2:55 PM, philo wrote:
On 04/28/2017 01:36 PM, Frank wrote: snip I think it is a crap shoot looking for cheapest stuff. I've never shopped ebay but my brother-in-law has bought stuff for my wife which turned out to be crap. Chinese stuff might be good or bad and US stuff may even be the same but quality control should be better and they filter out the bad. Worth paying for. Here is where it all started for me. I do a lot of computer repair work and one day the unbelievable thing happened...I ran out of CMOS batteries! No big deal, I'll just run over to the local drug store and pick one up, I'll pay a bit too much but big deal. A battery which should have been may $2.50 was marked $7 ! No way could I do that. I went on line and ordered from China. Price was $2.58 but that is not the whole story. $2.58 for TWENTY of them and that INCLUDED shipping!!! 13 cents each I guess They arrived in ten days and they are A-1 . Identical as far as I can tell to the $7 drugstore variety. Drugstore is the last place to buy batteries. If I could use 20 I'd probably look at Amazon. This type battery might not matter even if 19 were bad you made out. |
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:36:15 -0400, Frank "frank wrote:
On 4/28/2017 1:53 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: philo wrote: On 04/28/2017 11:54 AM, Frank wrote: On 4/28/2017 12:46 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: A few days ago I was commenting that one of the "new" computers I just built was continuously crashing and having problems . Sent the motherboard back to the vendor , who tested it and found it was bad . New board on the way . I used the same board in another comp , and it runs great , stable and doing well . I'll be glad to get everything organized and settled again . New RAM is on it's way from HK so I can max out both comps . I like the vendor , he/they messaged me asking questions about the motherboard and processor . They wanted to be sure their RAM is compatible with my equipment before they shipped it . I like that , and it's probably at least part of the reason they have a 100% satisfaction rating . Vendor is computex_tech on ebay . -- Snag I've bought all my memory from Crucial and never had a problem. They have a program you can use to check compatibility with your machine. If I work on a machine for someone else, I usually go for the best parts possible...but for one of my own machines, at least one that is not critical, I sometimes take chances. On eBay I saw some super cheap RAM ...from China...that said it would only work with an AMD CPU. Since I had a few machines with AMD processors that needed more RAM I decided to order some...it was only $2 a stick. When I placed the order they did not process it at first ...they emailed me to make sure I understood it was AMD only and only after I told them I understood...did they process the order. One of the sticks was bad and when I informed them I told them that for $2 they need not send a replacement but to my surprise they immediately refunded $2. The rest of the RAM has been running fine for about a year now... I suspect the RAM was cheap simply because they did not have a quality control department. Bottom line though, I was dealing with China and they were pretty good about their dealings. I've had both good and bad dealings with Chinese merchants . Some bend over backwards to please , others act like you've insulted their family for the last 3 generations by even hinting that their product is less than perfect . I think it is a crap shoot looking for cheapest stuff. I've never shopped ebay but my brother-in-law has bought stuff for my wife which turned out to be crap. Chinese stuff might be good or bad and US stuff may even be the same but quality control should be better and they filter out the bad. Worth paying for. I've had at least as much trouble buying chinese crap from american suppliers as from Chinese. The pros? Faster shipping from US resellers (when they have stock) Cons? Pay 4 or 5 times as much, PLUS shipping. Don't know how the Chinese can ship half way around the world for free on a 50 cent part that costs me 5 or 6 bucks from Texas or California, plus 9 bucks or more for shipping - - - - As far as computers are concerned, I've given up building them - I buy ready built with a warranty and I keep my hair!!! |
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:50:47 -0700, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:54:17 -0400, Frank "frank wrote: I've bought all my memory from Crucial and never had a problem. They have a program you can use to check compatibility with your machine. +1 I think they have the best quality, never had their RAM fail. They have or once had a reference page. Put in the numbers from your current RAM and it would give you the needed one from the Crucial product line. Easy to match what you needed. I've had rare failures on both Crucial and Kingston. VERY rare - but they do happen occaisionally. |
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On 04/28/2017 02:04 PM, Frank wrote:
On 4/28/2017 2:55 PM, philo wrote: On 04/28/2017 01:36 PM, Frank wrote: snip I think it is a crap shoot looking for cheapest stuff. I've never shopped ebay but my brother-in-law has bought stuff for my wife which turned out to be crap. Chinese stuff might be good or bad and US stuff may even be the same but quality control should be better and they filter out the bad. Worth paying for. Here is where it all started for me. I do a lot of computer repair work and one day the unbelievable thing happened...I ran out of CMOS batteries! No big deal, I'll just run over to the local drug store and pick one up, I'll pay a bit too much but big deal. A battery which should have been may $2.50 was marked $7 ! No way could I do that. I went on line and ordered from China. Price was $2.58 but that is not the whole story. $2.58 for TWENTY of them and that INCLUDED shipping!!! 13 cents each I guess They arrived in ten days and they are A-1 . Identical as far as I can tell to the $7 drugstore variety. Drugstore is the last place to buy batteries. If I could use 20 I'd probably look at Amazon. This type battery might not matter even if 19 were bad you made out. Of course it is but it is two blocks from my house and until I saw the price I wanted it ASAP |
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 13:55:04 -0500, philo wrote:
On 04/28/2017 01:36 PM, Frank wrote: snip I think it is a crap shoot looking for cheapest stuff. I've never shopped ebay but my brother-in-law has bought stuff for my wife which turned out to be crap. Chinese stuff might be good or bad and US stuff may even be the same but quality control should be better and they filter out the bad. Worth paying for. Here is where it all started for me. I do a lot of computer repair work and one day the unbelievable thing happened...I ran out of CMOS batteries! No big deal, I'll just run over to the local drug store and pick one up, I'll pay a bit too much but big deal. A battery which should have been may $2.50 was marked $7 ! No way could I do that. I went on line and ordered from China. Price was $2.58 but that is not the whole story. $2.58 for TWENTY of them and that INCLUDED shipping!!! 13 cents each I guess They arrived in ten days and they are A-1 . Identical as far as I can tell to the $7 drugstore variety. I've nipped over to my local Princess Auto store (Canadian version of "Harbour Fright" and picked them up 10 or 12 for $2.99 on sale. - no waiting. |
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Oren wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:15:24 -0400, wrote: As far as computers are concerned, I've given up building them - I buy ready built with a warranty and I keep my hair!!! Ditto. 20 years ago I could make 3-5 hundred dollars and still be under a market retail cost for a lesser machine. Just bought the bride a new machine under $500. 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, Win10 and the whole 9 yards -- less a monitor. An ASUS which is a very good mobo. I gotta say Oren , I have less than that in all 3 machines . They all have at least 8 Gb RAM , quad core processors . the media box has 2 1T drives and the other 2 both have a 320 main and at least 250Gb aux storage . 2 have new mobo's , all have (or will have when it arrives) new RAM , "new" processors , and 64 bit OS's . -- Snag |
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:46:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: Oren wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:15:24 -0400, wrote: As far as computers are concerned, I've given up building them - I buy ready built with a warranty and I keep my hair!!! Ditto. 20 years ago I could make 3-5 hundred dollars and still be under a market retail cost for a lesser machine. Just bought the bride a new machine under $500. 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, Win10 and the whole 9 yards -- less a monitor. An ASUS which is a very good mobo. I gotta say Oren , I have less than that in all 3 machines . They all have at least 8 Gb RAM , quad core processors . the media box has 2 1T drives and the other 2 both have a 320 main and at least 250Gb aux storage . 2 have new mobo's , all have (or will have when it arrives) new RAM , "new" processors , and 64 bit OS's . I still have two of her former machines that I can play with. Bringing one past Vista to Win10 would be half the cost of what I paid for new. And it has the latest fancy features, faster CPU, RAM, HDD, etc. If I sold them I could recover some cost and be less than $500. And I didn't spend time shopping :-o |
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Apr 2017 18:55:04 GMT in alt.home.repair, wrote: On 04/28/2017 01:36 PM, Frank wrote: snip I think it is a crap shoot looking for cheapest stuff. I've never shopped ebay but my brother-in-law has bought stuff for my wife which turned out to be crap. Chinese stuff might be good or bad and US stuff may even be the same but quality control should be better and they filter out the bad. Worth paying for. Here is where it all started for me. I do a lot of computer repair work and one day the unbelievable thing happened...I ran out of CMOS batteries! LOL.. Okay. I know alot of people who say that, but, I wind up working on their **** outright and/or assisting them when they get way in over their pretty little heads. But, I'll humour you on this one. No big deal, I'll just run over to the local drug store and pick one up, I'll pay a bit too much but big deal. Are they CR16 or CR32? :) A battery which should have been may $2.50 was marked $7 ! No way could I do that. ****. If I needed it that day for something, I would have spent the extra few dollars. It wasn't that much of a difference in the grand scheme of things. You are billing these people aren't you? Surely your hourly rate/job rate would have covered the additional expense. I went on line and ordered from China. Price was $2.58 but that is not the whole story. $2.58 for TWENTY of them and that INCLUDED shipping!!! 13 cents each I guess How long had they been sitting in storage? How many volts present on them when you took them out of the packaging? Did you test ANY of them with an actual battery tester? It puts a small 'load' on the battery to determine it's actual available power. Rather than using a DMM to test; since the 'load' they present is negligible. They arrived in ten days and they are A-1 . Identical as far as I can tell to the $7 drugstore variety. Maybe, maybe not. Do you know how old they actually are from date of manufacture? These are things to consider when replacing laptop battery packs, too. Sitting on a store shelf, kills them, over time. -- I would like to apologize for not having offended you yet. Please be patient. I will get to you shortly. |
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:31:09 -0500, philo wrote:
On 04/28/2017 04:20 PM, wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 13:55:04 -0500, philo wrote: On 04/28/2017 01:36 PM, Frank wrote: snip I think it is a crap shoot looking for cheapest stuff. I've never shopped ebay but my brother-in-law has bought stuff for my wife which turned out to be crap. Chinese stuff might be good or bad and US stuff may even be the same but quality control should be better and they filter out the bad. Worth paying for. Here is where it all started for me. I do a lot of computer repair work and one day the unbelievable thing happened...I ran out of CMOS batteries! No big deal, I'll just run over to the local drug store and pick one up, I'll pay a bit too much but big deal. A battery which should have been may $2.50 was marked $7 ! No way could I do that. I went on line and ordered from China. Price was $2.58 but that is not the whole story. $2.58 for TWENTY of them and that INCLUDED shipping!!! 13 cents each I guess They arrived in ten days and they are A-1 . Identical as far as I can tell to the $7 drugstore variety. I've nipped over to my local Princess Auto store (Canadian version of "Harbour Fright" and picked them up 10 or 12 for $2.99 on sale. - no waiting. With on-line shopping so easy I hardly ever take the car out to go shopping. Though I wanted to get the battery right I way I did not /need/ to get it right away. When a customer is waiting for their machine 10-40 days on the "slow boat from China" isn't an option, and PA isn't much farther than a local computer supplier where my wholesale price is about $2.99 each. When I'm "on the clock" it's still cheaper to even grab one at a drug store than to drive an extra 8 blocks for a $2.99 battery - as difficult as it is to get my head around THAT some days!!!!. That said, today was the last day of 1/3 of my working life going to the same office every morning (16 years of my 48) for 8:30. One more step towards retirement. I'm not quite retired yet - just tired!!!! |
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:16:54 -0700, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:15:24 -0400, wrote: As far as computers are concerned, I've given up building them - I buy ready built with a warranty and I keep my hair!!! Ditto. 20 years ago I could make 3-5 hundred dollars and still be under a market retail cost for a lesser machine. Just bought the bride a new machine under $500. 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, Win10 and the whole 9 yards -- less a monitor. An ASUS which is a very good mobo. Used to be I could make a 50% profit on a machine - either pre-built or self assembled. And that was 50% of a lot more than what I sell one for today. Today there is barely $50 in a high end machine. I'm better off to sell it at cost and bill my time spec'ing and ordering it at $50 an hour. I don't even advertise selling computers any more - just "technical services and consulting". The web-site still mentions "Computer and Network Sales and Service" |
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:46:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: Oren wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:15:24 -0400, wrote: As far as computers are concerned, I've given up building them - I buy ready built with a warranty and I keep my hair!!! Ditto. 20 years ago I could make 3-5 hundred dollars and still be under a market retail cost for a lesser machine. Just bought the bride a new machine under $500. 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, Win10 and the whole 9 yards -- less a monitor. An ASUS which is a very good mobo. I gotta say Oren , I have less than that in all 3 machines . They all have at least 8 Gb RAM , quad core processors . the media box has 2 1T drives and the other 2 both have a 320 main and at least 250Gb aux storage . 2 have new mobo's , all have (or will have when it arrives) new RAM , "new" processors , and 64 bit OS's . Not Intel processors I'l bet - and I'll never spend a cent on another AMD. and what's with the "new" in quotation marks? I can build a "new " computer out of used and out-of-date parts for under $50. I've got 3 "new" desktops here that cost me less than $50 - My wife uses one of them, and one is my "sandbox" machine. Also 3 laptops that cost me the price of a new battery each - and one I'm waffling over whether I will spend the price of a battery to make it fully functional. One is an AMD, and one is a DELL - the only one of each i "own" |
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:46:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Oren wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:15:24 -0400, wrote: As far as computers are concerned, I've given up building them - I buy ready built with a warranty and I keep my hair!!! Ditto. 20 years ago I could make 3-5 hundred dollars and still be under a market retail cost for a lesser machine. Just bought the bride a new machine under $500. 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, Win10 and the whole 9 yards -- less a monitor. An ASUS which is a very good mobo. I gotta say Oren , I have less than that in all 3 machines . They all have at least 8 Gb RAM , quad core processors . the media box has 2 1T drives and the other 2 both have a 320 main and at least 250Gb aux storage . 2 have new mobo's , all have (or will have when it arrives) new RAM , "new" processors , and 64 bit OS's . Not Intel processors I'l bet - and I'll never spend a cent on another AMD. and what's with the "new" in quotation marks? I can build a "new " computer out of used and out-of-date parts for under $50. I've got 3 "new" desktops here that cost me less than $50 - My wife uses one of them, and one is my "sandbox" machine. Also 3 laptops that cost me the price of a new battery each - and one I'm waffling over whether I will spend the price of a battery to make it fully functional. One is an AMD, and one is a DELL - the only one of each i "own" "New" meaning they're new to me . All were used in another machine before I got them . -- Snag |
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On 4/28/2017 8:03 PM, wrote: SNIP When I'm "on the clock" it's still cheaper to even grab one at a drug store than to drive an extra 8 blocks for a $2.99 battery - as difficult as it is to get my head around THAT some days!!!!. I still do some computer repair work and if I had a paying customer waiting, $7 for a CMOS battery would not have been a big deal. When doing work you can recover your cost it is often better to pay more for an item and get the customer going. When working a large motor speed control quit. The factory repair main replaced 2 large diodes. There were 3 of them as this was a 3 phase system. I asked him to replace the 3 rd one. He said they were $ 50 each. I told him I don't care as it was costing up about $ 1000 an hour to be down plus your charge to come back in if needed. It may not need changing, but why take the chance. |
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On 4/28/2017 11:58 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
When doing work you can recover your cost it is often better to pay more for an item and get the customer going. When working a large motor speed control quit. The factory repair main replaced 2 large diodes. There were 3 of them as this was a 3 phase system. I asked him to replace the 3 rd one. He said they were $ 50 each. I told him I don't care as it was costing up about $ 1000 an hour to be down plus your charge to come back in if needed. It may not need changing, but why take the chance. exactly. If you have a car with a timing belt, it is often just the cost of parts to replace the water pump at the same time. There are a lot of situations like that. $10 or $40 now rather than $500 if it breaks next week. |
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On 4/28/2017 9:21 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 20:05:29 -0400, Frank "frank wrote: On 4/28/2017 5:15 PM, wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:36:15 -0400, Frank "frank wrote: On 4/28/2017 1:53 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: philo wrote: On 04/28/2017 11:54 AM, Frank wrote: On 4/28/2017 12:46 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: A few days ago I was commenting that one of the "new" computers I just built was continuously crashing and having problems . Sent the motherboard back to the vendor , who tested it and found it was bad . New board on the way . I used the same board in another comp , and it runs great , stable and doing well . I'll be glad to get everything organized and settled again . New RAM is on it's way from HK so I can max out both comps . I like the vendor , he/they messaged me asking questions about the motherboard and processor . They wanted to be sure their RAM is compatible with my equipment before they shipped it . I like that , and it's probably at least part of the reason they have a 100% satisfaction rating . Vendor is computex_tech on ebay . -- Snag I've bought all my memory from Crucial and never had a problem. They have a program you can use to check compatibility with your machine. If I work on a machine for someone else, I usually go for the best parts possible...but for one of my own machines, at least one that is not critical, I sometimes take chances. On eBay I saw some super cheap RAM ...from China...that said it would only work with an AMD CPU. Since I had a few machines with AMD processors that needed more RAM I decided to order some...it was only $2 a stick. When I placed the order they did not process it at first ...they emailed me to make sure I understood it was AMD only and only after I told them I understood...did they process the order. One of the sticks was bad and when I informed them I told them that for $2 they need not send a replacement but to my surprise they immediately refunded $2. The rest of the RAM has been running fine for about a year now... I suspect the RAM was cheap simply because they did not have a quality control department. Bottom line though, I was dealing with China and they were pretty good about their dealings. I've had both good and bad dealings with Chinese merchants . Some bend over backwards to please , others act like you've insulted their family for the last 3 generations by even hinting that their product is less than perfect . I think it is a crap shoot looking for cheapest stuff. I've never shopped ebay but my brother-in-law has bought stuff for my wife which turned out to be crap. Chinese stuff might be good or bad and US stuff may even be the same but quality control should be better and they filter out the bad. Worth paying for. I've had at least as much trouble buying chinese crap from american suppliers as from Chinese. The pros? Faster shipping from US resellers (when they have stock) Cons? Pay 4 or 5 times as much, PLUS shipping. Don't know how the Chinese can ship half way around the world for free on a 50 cent part that costs me 5 or 6 bucks from Texas or California, plus 9 bucks or more for shipping - - - - As far as computers are concerned, I've given up building them - I buy ready built with a warranty and I keep my hair!!! I buy glasses on-line from Zenni Optical in China. Wife criticized me for not buying here but I showed her glass case from pair costing 7X as much in US and it said, "Made in China". Show me something you can buy in the "mass market" that ISN'T made in China, or from parts made in China, and I'll show you something made in Korea, Viet Nam, or the Phillipines - - - That's right. People that will only buy American are paying mostly for nameplate. Years ago, my last American car, a Ford, was assembled in Mexico. |
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On 4/29/2017 6:08 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/28/2017 11:58 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote: When doing work you can recover your cost it is often better to pay more for an item and get the customer going. When working a large motor speed control quit. The factory repair main replaced 2 large diodes. There were 3 of them as this was a 3 phase system. I asked him to replace the 3 rd one. He said they were $ 50 each. I told him I don't care as it was costing up about $ 1000 an hour to be down plus your charge to come back in if needed. It may not need changing, but why take the chance. Exactly. If two of the three crap out, what are the odds? exactly. If you have a car with a timing belt, it is often just the cost of parts to replace the water pump at the same time. There are a lot of situations like that. $10 or $40 now rather than $500 if it breaks next week. LOL! You own a Honda too, eh? |
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In article , "frank says...
4/28/2017 9:21 PM, wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 20:05:29 -0400, Frank "frank wrote: I buy glasses on-line from Zenni Optical in China. Wife criticized me for not buying here but I showed her glass case from pair costing 7X as much in US and it said, "Made in China". Show me something you can buy in the "mass market" that ISN'T made in China, or from parts made in China, and I'll show you something made in Korea, Viet Nam, or the Phillipines - - - That's right. People that will only buy American are paying mostly for nameplate. Years ago, my last American car, a Ford, was assembled in Mexico. Funny how what is thought of as American cars are assembled in other countries and now some of the 'imported'cars are made in America. I hate that because seems the imported cars are better than the same brand made in the US. |
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On 4/28/2017 9:46 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
A few days ago I was commenting that one of the "new" computers I just built was continuously crashing and having problems . Sent the motherboard back to the vendor , who tested it and found it was bad . New board on the way . I used the same board in another comp , and it runs great , stable and doing well . I'll be glad to get everything organized and settled again . New RAM is on it's way from HK so I can max out both comps . I like the vendor , he/they messaged me asking questions about the motherboard and processor . They wanted to be sure their RAM is compatible with my equipment before they shipped it . I like that , and it's probably at least part of the reason they have a 100% satisfaction rating . Vendor is computex_tech on ebay . -- Snag Who gives a ****? |
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On 04/29/2017 05:37 AM, Frank wrote:
That's right. People that will only buy American are paying mostly for nameplate. Years ago, my last American car, a Ford, was assembled in Mexico. My '87 F150 was made in Canada. |
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On 04/29/2017 07:51 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
Funny how what is thought of as American cars are assembled in other countries and now some of the 'imported'cars are made in America. I hate that because seems the imported cars are better than the same brand made in the US. The history of the Lordstown plant is a a capsule summary of the US car industry. GM even tried to reprise their last diesel adventure. |
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On 4/29/2017 11:40 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 04/29/2017 05:37 AM, Frank wrote: That's right. People that will only buy American are paying mostly for nameplate. Years ago, my last American car, a Ford, was assembled in Mexico. My '87 F150 was made in Canada. I worked with an engineer that had left Ford. His last assignment was to adapt a Ford model for a Japanese engine. |
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 07:37:04 -0400, Frank "frank wrote:
On 4/28/2017 9:21 PM, wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 20:05:29 -0400, Frank "frank wrote: On 4/28/2017 5:15 PM, wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:36:15 -0400, Frank "frank wrote: On 4/28/2017 1:53 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: philo wrote: On 04/28/2017 11:54 AM, Frank wrote: On 4/28/2017 12:46 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: A few days ago I was commenting that one of the "new" computers I just built was continuously crashing and having problems . Sent the motherboard back to the vendor , who tested it and found it was bad . New board on the way . I used the same board in another comp , and it runs great , stable and doing well . I'll be glad to get everything organized and settled again . New RAM is on it's way from HK so I can max out both comps . I like the vendor , he/they messaged me asking questions about the motherboard and processor . They wanted to be sure their RAM is compatible with my equipment before they shipped it . I like that , and it's probably at least part of the reason they have a 100% satisfaction rating . Vendor is computex_tech on ebay . -- Snag I've bought all my memory from Crucial and never had a problem. They have a program you can use to check compatibility with your machine. If I work on a machine for someone else, I usually go for the best parts possible...but for one of my own machines, at least one that is not critical, I sometimes take chances. On eBay I saw some super cheap RAM ...from China...that said it would only work with an AMD CPU. Since I had a few machines with AMD processors that needed more RAM I decided to order some...it was only $2 a stick. When I placed the order they did not process it at first ...they emailed me to make sure I understood it was AMD only and only after I told them I understood...did they process the order. One of the sticks was bad and when I informed them I told them that for $2 they need not send a replacement but to my surprise they immediately refunded $2. The rest of the RAM has been running fine for about a year now... I suspect the RAM was cheap simply because they did not have a quality control department. Bottom line though, I was dealing with China and they were pretty good about their dealings. I've had both good and bad dealings with Chinese merchants . Some bend over backwards to please , others act like you've insulted their family for the last 3 generations by even hinting that their product is less than perfect . I think it is a crap shoot looking for cheapest stuff. I've never shopped ebay but my brother-in-law has bought stuff for my wife which turned out to be crap. Chinese stuff might be good or bad and US stuff may even be the same but quality control should be better and they filter out the bad. Worth paying for. I've had at least as much trouble buying chinese crap from american suppliers as from Chinese. The pros? Faster shipping from US resellers (when they have stock) Cons? Pay 4 or 5 times as much, PLUS shipping. Don't know how the Chinese can ship half way around the world for free on a 50 cent part that costs me 5 or 6 bucks from Texas or California, plus 9 bucks or more for shipping - - - - As far as computers are concerned, I've given up building them - I buy ready built with a warranty and I keep my hair!!! I buy glasses on-line from Zenni Optical in China. Wife criticized me for not buying here but I showed her glass case from pair costing 7X as much in US and it said, "Made in China". Show me something you can buy in the "mass market" that ISN'T made in China, or from parts made in China, and I'll show you something made in Korea, Viet Nam, or the Phillipines - - - That's right. People that will only buy American are paying mostly for nameplate. Years ago, my last American car, a Ford, was assembled in Mexico. My last aerostar was assemled in St Louis of "globally souced parts" |
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On 04/28/2017 10:58 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says... On 4/28/2017 8:03 PM, wrote: SNIP When I'm "on the clock" it's still cheaper to even grab one at a drug store than to drive an extra 8 blocks for a $2.99 battery - as difficult as it is to get my head around THAT some days!!!!. I still do some computer repair work and if I had a paying customer waiting, $7 for a CMOS battery would not have been a big deal. When doing work you can recover your cost it is often better to pay more for an item and get the customer going. When working a large motor speed control quit. The factory repair main replaced 2 large diodes. There were 3 of them as this was a 3 phase system. I asked him to replace the 3 rd one. He said they were $ 50 each. I told him I don't care as it was costing up about $ 1000 an hour to be down plus your charge to come back in if needed. It may not need changing, but why take the chance. Someone brought me a power supply for a very high end film scanner. It has four bridge rectifiers two of which had been replaced a while back. One of the original ones is bad but I'm going to replace the still-good original one as well. They are about $8 each. |
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On 04/28/2017 07:23 PM, Diesel wrote:
philo Fri, 28 Apr 2017 18:55:04 GMT in alt.home.repair, wrote: On 04/28/2017 01:36 PM, Frank wrote: snip I think it is a crap shoot looking for cheapest stuff. I've never shopped ebay but my brother-in-law has bought stuff for my wife which turned out to be crap. Chinese stuff might be good or bad and US stuff may even be the same but quality control should be better and they filter out the bad. Worth paying for. Here is where it all started for me. I do a lot of computer repair work and one day the unbelievable thing happened...I ran out of CMOS batteries! LOL.. Okay. I know alot of people who say that, but, I wind up working on their **** outright and/or assisting them when they get way in over their pretty little heads. But, I'll humour you on this one. No big deal, I'll just run over to the local drug store and pick one up, I'll pay a bit too much but big deal. Are they CR16 or CR32? :) snipped but read They were the CR2032 and one thing I know is batteries. I was a senior service engineer at Enersys-Delaware and had 38 years in the field when I retired. (Previously Yuasa-Exide and before that Exide) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EnerSys I know how to test a CMOS battery under load and always do so with any that might have been sitting around for a while, but they do have a very long shelf life. If I really needed the battery that day I would have paid the $7 or stole one out of the machine spare machines I have in my shop. It was more of a psychological need than a real one. Example: Ten years after I had been living in my house, I one day noticed that the bathroom light had no globe. It was just a bare light bulb. I went over to the nearest h/w store but they were out of the size I needed. The clerk told me he was getting a restock shipment in two days and to come back. Needless to say I went to another H/W store, no way was I going to wait two more days! |
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