I have an enameled robe hook that was installed on the tiled wall inside our
shower, probably over 15 years ago. It looks like it was never designed for
damp/moist applications since the hook fell off the square mounting plate and
the plate is so corroded as to be an unrecognizable rusted mass. I can sort of
make out where one mounting screw is, but that is about it. I've taken a wire
brush to it to try, but that has not yielded anything new in terms of
identifying how it is mounted or how I could remove it. It does look like it
was screwed on top of the tile, which means that any mounting holes were
drilled through the tile and into the wall. I sprayed PB Blaster on the one
screw head I can sort of make out, but there is really no head left that I
could even use a screwdriver on if it works. Thinking about using some kind of
cutoff disc to just slice it off if I can. The plate is about 2" square.

Any thoughts or ideas on how I can get this corroded mess removed with minimal
damage? Am I just going to have to remove the surrounding tiles and then
replace them

TIA!

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On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 3:44:06 PM UTC-5, dzeleznik wrote:
I have an enameled robe hook that was installed on the tiled wall inside our
shower, probably over 15 years ago. It looks like it was never designed for
damp/moist applications since the hook fell off the square mounting plate and
the plate is so corroded as to be an unrecognizable rusted mass. I can sort of
make out where one mounting screw is, but that is about it. I've taken a wire
brush to it to try, but that has not yielded anything new in terms of
identifying how it is mounted or how I could remove it. It does look like it
was screwed on top of the tile, which means that any mounting holes were
drilled through the tile and into the wall. I sprayed PB Blaster on the one
screw head I can sort of make out, but there is really no head left that I
could even use a screwdriver on if it works. Thinking about using some kind of
cutoff disc to just slice it off if I can. The plate is about 2" square.

Any thoughts or ideas on how I can get this corroded mess removed with minimal
damage? Am I just going to have to remove the surrounding tiles and then
replace them

TIA!

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grind the area of the screw, till the bracket comes loose, then you can try vice grips to remove the screw, so you can reuse the same hole.

if all else fails grind off the screw and use a larger bracket .......

use a masonary bit to drill ceramic tile

On 3/4/17 2:44 PM, dzeleznik wrote:
I have an enameled robe hook that was installed on the tiled wall
inside our shower, probably over 15 years ago. It looks like it was
never designed for damp/moist applications since the hook fell off
the square mounting plate and the plate is so corroded as to be an
unrecognizable rusted mass. I can sort of make out where one mounting
screw is, but that is about it. I've taken a wire brush to it to try,
but that has not yielded anything new in terms of identifying how it
is mounted or how I could remove it. It does look like it was screwed
on top of the tile, which means that any mounting holes were drilled
through the tile and into the wall. I sprayed PB Blaster on the one
screw head I can sort of make out, but there is really no head left
that I could even use a screwdriver on if it works. Thinking about
using some kind of cutoff disc to just slice it off if I can. The
plate is about 2" square.

Any thoughts or ideas on how I can get this corroded mess removed
with minimal damage? Am I just going to have to remove the
surrounding tiles and then replace them

TIA!

Could you use a drill to remove the head of the screw? A punch
or a really small drill bit might be a start. Then use a larger bit to
actually
remove the screw head.

On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 2:44:06 PM UTC-6, dzeleznik wrote:
I have an enameled robe hook that was installed on the tiled wall inside our
shower, probably over 15 years ago. It looks like it was never designed for
damp/moist applications since the hook fell off the square mounting plate and
the plate is so corroded as to be an unrecognizable rusted mass. I can sort of
make out where one mounting screw is, but that is about it. I've taken a wire
brush to it to try, but that has not yielded anything new in terms of
identifying how it is mounted or how I could remove it. It does look like it
was screwed on top of the tile, which means that any mounting holes were
drilled through the tile and into the wall. I sprayed PB Blaster on the one
screw head I can sort of make out, but there is really no head left that I
could even use a screwdriver on if it works. Thinking about using some kind of
cutoff disc to just slice it off if I can. The plate is about 2" square.

Any thoughts or ideas on how I can get this corroded mess removed with minimal
damage? Am I just going to have to remove the surrounding tiles and then
replace them

TIA!

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Is it possible the screws actually came from the back side holding the hook to the mounting plate and that the mount was cemented to the tile?

On 3/4/2017 3:44 PM, dzeleznik wrote:
I have an enameled robe hook that was installed on the tiled wall inside our
shower, probably over 15 years ago. It looks like it was never designed for
damp/moist applications since the hook fell off the square mounting plate and
the plate is so corroded as to be an unrecognizable rusted mass. I can sort of
make out where one mounting screw is, but that is about it. I've taken a wire
brush to it to try, but that has not yielded anything new in terms of
identifying how it is mounted or how I could remove it. It does look like it
was screwed on top of the tile, which means that any mounting holes were
drilled through the tile and into the wall. I sprayed PB Blaster on the one
screw head I can sort of make out, but there is really no head left that I
could even use a screwdriver on if it works. Thinking about using some kind of
cutoff disc to just slice it off if I can. The plate is about 2" square.

Any thoughts or ideas on how I can get this corroded mess removed with minimal
damage? Am I just going to have to remove the surrounding tiles and then
replace them

TIA!


Go to Lowes Depot and rent a 5 jigawatt jack hammer. Gently work the bit under the mounting plate while pulsing the trigger. Be sure to wear safety glasses and a hardhat.

replying to bob haller, dzeleznik wrote:
Will try this later today, thanks for the suggestion. I am also going to try
and get a putty knife between the plate and the tile. Maybe by agitating it a
bit, some of the corroded mess will fall away and I can get a clearer picture
of how its mounted and what I am actually looking at.

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replying to Dean Hoffman, dzeleznik wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion, may give it a try if all else fails. Like I said, I
can only make out one screw and I have no clue whether it is an expansion or
toggle bolt behind the scenes. There has to be at least one other screw/bolt
in this mess somewhere. But maybe if I remove the one, I can free the plate up
enough to figure out what else is going on.

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replying to Ed60062, dzeleznik wrote:
Highly doubt this, the robe hook is the standard kind that slides over a plate
that has outwardly angled edges. The hook has a downward facing set screw to
hold it in place to the plate. The screws/bolts must be expansion or toggles.

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On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 3:44:06 PM UTC-5, dzeleznik wrote:
I have an enameled robe hook that was installed on the tiled wall inside our
shower, probably over 15 years ago. It looks like it was never designed for
damp/moist applications since the hook fell off the square mounting plate and
the plate is so corroded as to be an unrecognizable rusted mass. I can sort of
make out where one mounting screw is, but that is about it. I've taken a wire
brush to it to try, but that has not yielded anything new in terms of
identifying how it is mounted or how I could remove it. It does look like it
was screwed on top of the tile, which means that any mounting holes were
drilled through the tile and into the wall. I sprayed PB Blaster on the one
screw head I can sort of make out, but there is really no head left that I
could even use a screwdriver on if it works. Thinking about using some kind of
cutoff disc to just slice it off if I can. The plate is about 2" square.

Any thoughts or ideas on how I can get this corroded mess removed with minimal
damage? Am I just going to have to remove the surrounding tiles and then
replace them

TIA!


You might try the PB Blaster behind the plate also. It could be rust-stuck
to the tile. Using a cut-off disk in a Dremel-like tool would make short work
of the screw head. A sanding drum run across the surface might reveal
another former screw head.

After letting the PB Blaster work for a while, you might try something like
a painter's tool to break the seal with the wall (if rust-stuck). A couple
of light taps with a hammer on the end of this as you move it around the
perimeter might loosen it up:

http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...7350enh-z8.jpg

The sharp edge might help pop it off.

Good luck! Let us know how you eventually get it off.

replying to DerbyDad03, dzeleznik wrote:
Great suggestion on the painters tool! Most of the corroded metal plate just
broke apart and came off with liberal use of one. That coupled with a dremel
metal cutoff disc around the screws and everything is removed flush down to
the bare tile, which does not look damaged at all. I am going to leave the
remnants of the existing bolts in place until I have a new robe hook to mount
in its place. It looks like silicone sealant was used around the bolts. If the
new mounting hardware can reuse the existing holes, then I will drill them
out. Otherwise, I will leave them be, reseal them, and drill new holes for the
replacement hardware.

All in all it only took me 15-20 minutes to remove what I thought was an
impossible situation. Must say I am pretty pleased with myself and DW is
impressed. Now to get the shopvac and cleanup the mess before things turn sour
on that front. Thanks everyone that chimed in with great suggestions, much
appreciated!

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On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 1:14:08 PM UTC-5, dzeleznik wrote:
replying to DerbyDad03, dzeleznik wrote:
Great suggestion on the painters tool! Most of the corroded metal plate just
broke apart and came off with liberal use of one. That coupled with a dremel
metal cutoff disc around the screws and everything is removed flush down to
the bare tile, which does not look damaged at all. I am going to leave the
remnants of the existing bolts in place until I have a new robe hook to mount
in its place. It looks like silicone sealant was used around the bolts. If the
new mounting hardware can reuse the existing holes, then I will drill them
out. Otherwise, I will leave them be, reseal them, and drill new holes for the
replacement hardware.

All in all it only took me 15-20 minutes to remove what I thought was an
impossible situation. Must say I am pretty pleased with myself and DW is
impressed. Now to get the shopvac and cleanup the mess before things turn sour
on that front. Thanks everyone that chimed in with great suggestions, much
appreciated!


I'm glad it worked out for you.

If you have to drill new holes in the tile, may I suggest that you use a utility knife or
other sharp tool to remove the glaze where you want to drill. Once the glaze is removed
and you are down to the innards of the tile, the bit will not slide around and it will be
easier to get it to bite.

Lots of youtube videos out there related to drill through various types of tile.

Good luck!

dzeleznik wrote:
replying to DerbyDad03, dzeleznik wrote:
Great suggestion on the painters tool! Most of the corroded metal
plate just broke apart and came off with liberal use of one. That
coupled with a dremel metal cutoff disc around the screws and
everything is removed flush down to the bare tile, which does not
look damaged at all. I am going to leave the remnants of the existing
bolts in place until I have a new robe hook to mount in its place. It
looks like silicone sealant was used around the bolts. If the new
mounting hardware can reuse the existing holes, then I will drill
them out. Otherwise, I will leave them be, reseal them, and drill new
holes for the replacement hardware.
All in all it only took me 15-20 minutes to remove what I thought was
an impossible situation. Must say I am pretty pleased with myself and
DW is impressed. Now to get the shopvac and cleanup the mess before
things turn sour on that front. Thanks everyone that chimed in with
great suggestions, much appreciated!

If you have/decide to remove them , slide by Harbor Fright and pick up a
set of their left hand twist drill bits first . Saves a bunch of cussin' .
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 1:14:08 PM UTC-5, dzeleznik wrote:
replying to DerbyDad03, dzeleznik wrote:
Great suggestion on the painters tool! Most of the corroded metal
plate just broke apart and came off with liberal use of one. That
coupled with a dremel metal cutoff disc around the screws and
everything is removed flush down to the bare tile, which does not
look damaged at all. I am going to leave the remnants of the
existing bolts in place until I have a new robe hook to mount in its
place. It looks like silicone sealant was used around the bolts. If
the new mounting hardware can reuse the existing holes, then I will
drill them out. Otherwise, I will leave them be, reseal them, and
drill new holes for the replacement hardware.

All in all it only took me 15-20 minutes to remove what I thought
was an impossible situation. Must say I am pretty pleased with
myself and DW is impressed. Now to get the shopvac and cleanup the
mess before things turn sour on that front. Thanks everyone that
chimed in with great suggestions, much appreciated!


I'm glad it worked out for you.

If you have to drill new holes in the tile, may I suggest that you
use a utility knife or other sharp tool to remove the glaze where you
want to drill. Once the glaze is removed and you are down to the
innards of the tile, the bit will not slide around and it will be
easier to get it to bite.

Lots of youtube videos out there related to drill through various
types of tile.

Good luck!


DD03 , gonna take carbide or diamond to cut that glaze . A center punch
and a *VERY* light tap will work well though .
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On 03/07/2017 01:14 PM, dzeleznik wrote:
All in all it only took me 15-20 minutes to remove what I thought was an
impossible situation. Must say I am pretty pleased with myself and DW is
impressed. Now to get the shopvac and cleanup the mess before things
turn sour
on that front. Thanks everyone that chimed in with great suggestions,
much
appreciated!


Stainless steel is your friend.