Is it possible?

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On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 4:43:44 AM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Is it possible?

Sure, but very few people want to live in an underground bunker.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2/8/2017 3:28 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 4:43:44 AM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Is it possible?

Sure, but very few people want to live in an underground bunker.

Cindy Hamilton


Cindy buries her head in the sand and buy Jew coffee.
Wot could be worse?

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On 2/8/17 3:43 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

Is it possible?

Yes.
A quick search turned up a few.
http://www.citylab.com/housing/2013/10/ingenius-home-built-battle-tornadoes/7105/

Dome houses are pretty tough.

On 2/8/2017 3:43 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

Is it possible?

Sure, but they will cost more and I doubt if they would
look like McMansions.

Here in Oklahoma some are pushing for better construction
techniques, that can give greater chances of survival in
a tornado.

Bill

On 2/8/2017 6:12 AM, Bill Gill wrote:
On 2/8/2017 3:43 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

Is it possible?

Sure, but they will cost more and I doubt if they would
look like McMansions.

Here in Oklahoma some are pushing for better construction
techniques, that can give greater chances of survival in
a tornado.

Bill


Spoken like a true idiot.
They gots lots in Okyhoma.
LOL

On 02/08/2017 06:12 AM, Bill Gill wrote:
On 2/8/2017 3:43 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

Is it possible?

Sure, but they will cost more and I doubt if they would
look like McMansions.

Build a reinforced concrete house and slap some siding on it.

Jon

On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 10:32:44 AM UTC-6, Jon Danniken wrote:
On 02/08/2017 06:12 AM, Bill Gill wrote:
On 2/8/2017 3:43 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

Is it possible?

Sure, but they will cost more and I doubt if they would
look like McMansions.

Build a reinforced concrete house and slap some siding on it.

Jon

Some posterior sphincter will always complain that your tornado proof home is unattractive and a blight on the neighborhood. More sphincters will join in and go to the city council to howl about how ugly your storm safe home is and how they want it torn down. About that time a tornado will hit and level the neighborhood except for your house. At which time, the posterior sphincters will start howling about how unfair..... ヽ(ヅ)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Tornadic Monster

On Wed, 8 Feb 2017 17:43:41 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote:


Is it possible?

Absolutely. We already can see that with the current building code in
Florida. Granted we are only building for winds in the 140-180 MPH
(F3) range but when you compare the results to places like NY/NJ in
Sandy (a strong tropical storm) you can see the difference. The other
posters suggestion of a dome is an excellent example. If it is built
in a dome form with the structure of an upside down swimming pool
(concrete and steel) a tornado will not faze it.
You could use the same techniques for a more conventional home and get
wind protections up in the F3 range.
The problem may be esthetics and cost. A Florida 150 MPH house might
cost ~30% more than a house built where they do not have a wind code
(for the basic shell).

On 2/8/2017 4:43 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

Is it possible?


Sure. ICF houses will remain standing, but the roof is the weak link.
Sure minimizes damage.

Fully tornado proof cost a bit more but can be done.

On Wed, 8 Feb 2017 11:21:06 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/8/2017 4:43 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

Is it possible?


Sure. ICF houses will remain standing, but the roof is the weak link.
Sure minimizes damage.

Fully tornado proof cost a bit more but can be done.
Highly tornado resistant houses are very doable - housed that will
suffer minor damage in an F3, and remain structurally sound while
suffering damage in an F5.

Tornado PROOF buildings, which would suffer no dammage in an F5 are
possible, but not either financially feasible or cosmetically
acceptable to the average buyer.

On Wed, 08 Feb 2017 19:22:18 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 8 Feb 2017 11:21:06 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/8/2017 4:43 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

Is it possible?


Sure. ICF houses will remain standing, but the roof is the weak link.
Sure minimizes damage.

Fully tornado proof cost a bit more but can be done.
Highly tornado resistant houses are very doable - housed that will
suffer minor damage in an F3, and remain structurally sound while
suffering damage in an F5.

Tornado PROOF buildings, which would suffer no dammage in an F5 are
possible, but not either financially feasible or cosmetically
acceptable to the average buyer.

CORE houses are 100% tornado PROOF.

Dig down to the core of the earth. Install an elevator shaft and
elevator. Then build your home directly in the earth's core. 100%
guaranteed that no tornado cyclone or hurricane will damage this home.

On 2017-02-09, wrote:

100% guaranteed that no tornado cyclone or hurricane will damage
this home.

Zat guarantee extend to fracking?

nb

On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 02:41:39 -0600, wrote:

On Wed, 08 Feb 2017 19:22:18 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 8 Feb 2017 11:21:06 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/8/2017 4:43 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

Is it possible?


Sure. ICF houses will remain standing, but the roof is the weak link.
Sure minimizes damage.

Fully tornado proof cost a bit more but can be done.
Highly tornado resistant houses are very doable - housed that will
suffer minor damage in an F3, and remain structurally sound while
suffering damage in an F5.

Tornado PROOF buildings, which would suffer no dammage in an F5 are
possible, but not either financially feasible or cosmetically
acceptable to the average buyer.

CORE houses are 100% tornado PROOF.

Dig down to the core of the earth. Install an elevator shaft and
elevator. Then build your home directly in the earth's core. 100%
guaranteed that no tornado cyclone or hurricane will damage this home.

Also, As I noted 100% out of the realm of "financiallt feasible" for
most people

On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 13:27:50 -0500, wrote:


Also, As I noted 100% out of the realm of "financiallt feasible" for
most people

I think you might find the shell of a tornado proof house might only
be about 50% more than a regular home.
(reinforced concrete on all 6 sides), If you used ICF walls insulation
would not be a problem and use a girder roof structure like commercial
buildings with a poured concrete roof. Your weakness is the
penetrations but we are seeing very capable impact windows and if you
backed that up with 200 MPH hurricane shutters your protection would
be up in the F4 category. The latter being a big part of the extra
cost.