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Well, it happened...first time it got me but it has happened on occasion
prior...

Have small gas stove in well house for the obvious reason and didn't
think to check for certain the other night but after was -17F overnight
and it was obviously out and froze up, was wondering if could be a
relatively simple way to get a signal that could use to alarm with?

It's a walk that isn't always the direction from which am coming that
have to make a specific trip out there to check as is...a red LED in the
window or the like would be helpful to avoid unneeded trips or to notify
if out. Can, for example, see that window from house; a red light out
there after dark would be quite effective and easily spotted...

As a side note I replaced the old "wild" pilot with a safety valve and
new pilot assembly to hold the thermocouple a couple of years ago. This
pilot seems much more susceptible to going out than the previous albeit
with the safety factor of shutting off the gas when it is that the other
didn't have...but, freezing up isn't a good option, either, if it does;
took me most of day to get it thawed out given the temperatures reached...

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Have small gas stove in well house for the obvious reason and didn't
think to check for certain the other night but after was -17F overnight
and it was obviously out and froze up, was wondering if could be a
relatively simple way to get a signal that could use to alarm with?


How about a battery-powered remote thermometer?

For example:
https://www.amazon.com/AcuRite-00782A2-Wireless-Outdoor-Thermometer/dp/B0009Y7RPS/

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On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 9:16:32 PM UTC-5, Neill Massello wrote:
dpb wrote:

Have small gas stove in well house for the obvious reason and didn't
think to check for certain the other night but after was -17F overnight
and it was obviously out and froze up, was wondering if could be a
relatively simple way to get a signal that could use to alarm with?


How about a battery-powered remote thermometer?

For example:
https://www.amazon.com/AcuRite-00782A2-Wireless-Outdoor-Thermometer/dp/B0009Y7RPS/


How about a smartphone app and temp sensor?

http://www.sensorpush.com/
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On 12/20/2016 8:49 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 9:16:32 PM UTC-5, Neill Massello wrote:
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Have small gas stove in well house for the obvious reason and didn't
think to check for certain the other night but after was -17F overnight
and it was obviously out and froze up, was wondering if could be a
relatively simple way to get a signal that could use to alarm with?


How about a battery-powered remote thermometer?

For example:
https://www.amazon.com/AcuRite-00782A2-Wireless-Outdoor-Thermometer/dp/B0009Y7RPS/


How about a smartphone app and temp sensor?

http://www.sensorpush.com/


No smartphone, maybe? But, a good idea otherwise...

The other poster on temp got me thinking to use temperature itself
rather than trying to directly monitor the pilot light as was thinking
and found a $10 sensor microcontroller w/ 10A integrated relay that
would work as long as have power -- could, even, with it control a
backup electric heater if were gone so had backup as long as have power.
Of course, rural power isn't all that reliable during storm which is
why have kept the old NG heater which doesn't need power...

It's been a quandary for years about backup generator because have two
separate transformers and well is on one while house is on the other
which necessitates double isolation to be able to have both and the
expense/complexity has been sufficient to just live with it...we don't
lose for extended time that often that it's a real hardship generally,
just inconvenient. Of course, when the big blizzard does come again,
like '57 and it's a week or so...
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On 12/20/2016 7:51 AM, dpb wrote:
On 12/20/2016 8:49 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 9:16:32 PM UTC-5, Neill Massello wrote:
wrote:

Have small gas stove in well house for the obvious reason and didn't
think to check for certain the other night but after was -17F overnight
and it was obviously out and froze up, was wondering if could be a
relatively simple way to get a signal that could use to alarm with?

How about a battery-powered remote thermometer?

For example:
https://www.amazon.com/AcuRite-00782A2-Wireless-Outdoor-Thermometer/dp/B0009Y7RPS/


How about a smartphone app and temp sensor?

http://www.sensorpush.com/


No smartphone, maybe? But, a good idea otherwise...

The other poster on temp got me thinking to use temperature itself
rather than trying to directly monitor the pilot light as was thinking
and found a $10 sensor microcontroller w/ 10A integrated relay that
would work as long as have power -- could, even, with it control a
backup electric heater if were gone so had backup as long as have power.
Of course, rural power isn't all that reliable during storm which is
why have kept the old NG heater which doesn't need power...

It's been a quandary for years about backup generator because have two
separate transformers and well is on one while house is on the other
which necessitates double isolation to be able to have both and the
expense/complexity has been sufficient to just live with it...we don't
lose for extended time that often that it's a real hardship generally,
just inconvenient. Of course, when the big blizzard does come again,
like '57 and it's a week or so...



Leave the light running all the time to show things are fine. If the
light goes out, temp has dropped or the power has failed.


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On 12/20/2016 10:02 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
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Leave the light running all the time to show things are fine. If the
light goes out, temp has dropped or the power has failed.


The power outage at the moment defeats the system, granted...still have
then to check manually unless were to run a battery backup and it's not
frequent enough to make that worth the effort, probably, 'cuz then have
to keep the battery charged/replaced.

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On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 7:59:55 PM UTC-6, dpb wrote:
Well, it happened...first time it got me but it has happened on occasion
prior...

Have small gas stove in well house for the obvious reason and didn't
think to check for certain the other night but after was -17F overnight
and it was obviously out and froze up, was wondering if could be a
relatively simple way to get a signal that could use to alarm with?

It's a walk that isn't always the direction from which am coming that
have to make a specific trip out there to check as is...a red LED in the
window or the like would be helpful to avoid unneeded trips or to notify
if out. Can, for example, see that window from house; a red light out
there after dark would be quite effective and easily spotted...

As a side note I replaced the old "wild" pilot with a safety valve and
new pilot assembly to hold the thermocouple a couple of years ago. This
pilot seems much more susceptible to going out than the previous albeit
with the safety factor of shutting off the gas when it is that the other
didn't have...but, freezing up isn't a good option, either, if it does;
took me most of day to get it thawed out given the temperatures reached....



When I was doing service work, I installed a lot of automatic pilot relight kits on gas furnaces and water heaters where high winds were blowing out the pilot lights. High winds blowing past the exhaust pipe on the roof would create a vacuum in the flue that would pull a lot of air through the burner of a furnace or water heater and blow out the pilot. You might try a relight kit on your stove/heat source in your pump house. ヽ(ヅ)ノ

http://www.supplyhouse.com/Robertsha...ot-Relight-Kit

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