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Hi,
Considered geothermal energy source under your house? Need to drill
holes deep down.
Tony


I had briefly looked into a 'system' proposed by a fellow named Dennis Lee,
who purported to have a 'free energy' system that used geothermal energy in
conjunction with freeon flowing through coils to generate turbine movement
and hence operate a generator. He claimed to offer free installations for a
limited time of these units.
I also read that he was arrested for fraud.
I watched a video that his people produced, and although some of the
'theory' looked almost plausible, the guy didn't strike me as an inventor,
but more of a marketeer/shyster.
Right now, I expect to find solar cells and wind power to be closest to
realistic, unless there have been significant advances in other technologies
that I'm not current on.

But during these ultra-cold winter nights, I wish I could block the cold air
from flowing down the chimney and into my furnace and hot water heater and
cooling them down prematurely. I read that as much as 20% of the
steady-state operating heat goes up the chimney in modern furnaces. That's
significant. A lot more has to be recovered after the furnace has been off
for a while. Ours comes on about every 2 hours on very cold nights, so in
that time, most of the boiler energy has gone up the chimney and it has to
heat up from almost cold. An automatic stack damper would be a big help
there.


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Mark & Mary Ann Weiss

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Hear my Kurzweil Creations at: http://www.dv-clips.com/theater.htm
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In article , mweissX294
@earthlink.net says...
~
~ Hi,
~ Considered geothermal energy source under your house? Need to drill
~ holes deep down.
~ Tony
~
~
~ I had briefly looked into a 'system' proposed by a fellow named Dennis Lee,
~ who purported to have a 'free energy' system that used geothermal energy in
~ conjunction with freeon flowing through coils to generate turbine movement
~ and hence operate a generator. He claimed to offer free installations for a
~ limited time of these units.
~ I also read that he was arrested for fraud.
~ I watched a video that his people produced, and although some of the
~ 'theory' looked almost plausible, the guy didn't strike me as an inventor,
~ but more of a marketeer/shyster.
~ Right now, I expect to find solar cells and wind power to be closest to
~ realistic, unless there have been significant advances in other technologies
~ that I'm not current on.

I think you should read up on earth-source heat exchangers (often
erroneously called "geothermal"). They aren't inexpensive to
install, but they're the most practical "sustainable" heating source.

There are dozens of websites of interest, including many government
websites in the US and Canada that describe how they work and what
efficiencies you can gain with them. They are powered by
electricity, but use roughly 25% as much electricity to heat and cool
your home as using electrical heating. You could also consider an
air-source heat pump, but they aren't as efficient. However, the
payback period is shorter since they're not much more expensive than
regular heating systems.

Rick
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Mark & Mary Ann Weiss
 
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~ realistic, unless there have been significant advances in other
technologies
~ that I'm not current on.

I think you should read up on earth-source heat exchangers (often
erroneously called "geothermal"). They aren't inexpensive to
install, but they're the most practical "sustainable" heating source.

There are dozens of websites of interest, including many government
websites in the US and Canada that describe how they work and what
efficiencies you can gain with them. They are powered by
electricity, but use roughly 25% as much electricity to heat and cool
your home as using electrical heating. You could also consider an
air-source heat pump, but they aren't as efficient. However, the
payback period is shorter since they're not much more expensive than
regular heating systems.

Rick


I think all of this goes somewhat beyond the scope of my original inquiry,
which was about finding a way to power some PC servers off of solar or
wind-generated power.

The installations you discuss are interesting, and if I had a lot of money
and was building a new home, would definately consider them. But at the
moment, they are out of the question. We would have to truck in a lot of
fill to cover the heat exchangers, as our locale (mountaintop) is rocky and
mostly ledge. It would be absurdly-expensive to do this, and that negates my
short-term goal, which is to save money in the coming year or three.


--
Take care,

Mark & Mary Ann Weiss

VIDEO PRODUCTION . FILM SCANNING . AUDIO RESTORATION
Hear my Kurzweil Creations at: http://www.dv-clips.com/theater.htm
Business sites at:
www.dv-clips.com
www.mwcomms.com
www.adventuresinanimemusic.com
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~ realistic, unless there have been significant advances in other
technologies
~ that I'm not current on.

I think you should read up on earth-source heat exchangers (often
erroneously called "geothermal"). They aren't inexpensive to
install, but they're the most practical "sustainable" heating source.

There are dozens of websites of interest, including many government
websites in the US and Canada that describe how they work and what
efficiencies you can gain with them. They are powered by
electricity, but use roughly 25% as much electricity to heat and cool
your home as using electrical heating. You could also consider an
air-source heat pump, but they aren't as efficient. However, the
payback period is shorter since they're not much more expensive than
regular heating systems.

Rick


I think all of this goes somewhat beyond the scope of my original inquiry,
which was about finding a way to power some PC servers off of solar or
wind-generated power.

The installations you discuss are interesting, and if I had a lot of money
and was building a new home, would definately consider them. But at the
moment, they are out of the question. We would have to truck in a lot of
fill to cover the heat exchangers, as our locale (mountaintop) is rocky and
mostly ledge. It would be absurdly-expensive to do this, and that negates my
short-term goal, which is to save money in the coming year or three.


--
Take care,

Mark & Mary Ann Weiss

VIDEO PRODUCTION . FILM SCANNING . AUDIO RESTORATION
Hear my Kurzweil Creations at: http://www.dv-clips.com/theater.htm
Business sites at:
www.dv-clips.com
www.mwcomms.com
www.adventuresinanimemusic.com
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Java Man (Espressopithecus) wrote:
In article , mweissX294
@earthlink.net says...
~
~ Hi,
~ Considered geothermal energy source under your house? Need to drill
~ holes deep down.
~ Tony
~
~
~ I had briefly looked into a 'system' proposed by a fellow named Dennis Lee,
~ who purported to have a 'free energy' system that used geothermal energy in
~ conjunction with freeon flowing through coils to generate turbine movement
~ and hence operate a generator. He claimed to offer free installations for a
~ limited time of these units.
~ I also read that he was arrested for fraud.
~ I watched a video that his people produced, and although some of the
~ 'theory' looked almost plausible, the guy didn't strike me as an inventor,
~ but more of a marketeer/shyster.
~ Right now, I expect to find solar cells and wind power to be closest to
~ realistic, unless there have been significant advances in other technologies
~ that I'm not current on.

I think you should read up on earth-source heat exchangers (often
erroneously called "geothermal"). They aren't inexpensive to
install, but they're the most practical "sustainable" heating source.

There are dozens of websites of interest, including many government
websites in the US and Canada that describe how they work and what
efficiencies you can gain with them. They are powered by
electricity, but use roughly 25% as much electricity to heat and cool
your home as using electrical heating. You could also consider an
air-source heat pump, but they aren't as efficient. However, the
payback period is shorter since they're not much more expensive than
regular heating systems.

Rick

Hi,
Here I saw a few working geo thermal heat exchange systems installed by
local firm. It's great. Only problem is it costs ~25,000.00CAD for the
time being. If I were building a new house, I'd give serious
consideration to it.
Tony
Calgary, AB.



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Java Man (Espressopithecus) wrote:
In article , mweissX294
@earthlink.net says...
~
~ Hi,
~ Considered geothermal energy source under your house? Need to drill
~ holes deep down.
~ Tony
~
~
~ I had briefly looked into a 'system' proposed by a fellow named Dennis Lee,
~ who purported to have a 'free energy' system that used geothermal energy in
~ conjunction with freeon flowing through coils to generate turbine movement
~ and hence operate a generator. He claimed to offer free installations for a
~ limited time of these units.
~ I also read that he was arrested for fraud.
~ I watched a video that his people produced, and although some of the
~ 'theory' looked almost plausible, the guy didn't strike me as an inventor,
~ but more of a marketeer/shyster.
~ Right now, I expect to find solar cells and wind power to be closest to
~ realistic, unless there have been significant advances in other technologies
~ that I'm not current on.

I think you should read up on earth-source heat exchangers (often
erroneously called "geothermal"). They aren't inexpensive to
install, but they're the most practical "sustainable" heating source.

There are dozens of websites of interest, including many government
websites in the US and Canada that describe how they work and what
efficiencies you can gain with them. They are powered by
electricity, but use roughly 25% as much electricity to heat and cool
your home as using electrical heating. You could also consider an
air-source heat pump, but they aren't as efficient. However, the
payback period is shorter since they're not much more expensive than
regular heating systems.

Rick

Hi,
Here I saw a few working geo thermal heat exchange systems installed by
local firm. It's great. Only problem is it costs ~25,000.00CAD for the
time being. If I were building a new house, I'd give serious
consideration to it.
Tony
Calgary, AB.

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In article , mweissX294
@earthlink.net says...
~
~ Hi,
~ Considered geothermal energy source under your house? Need to drill
~ holes deep down.
~ Tony
~
~
~ I had briefly looked into a 'system' proposed by a fellow named Dennis Lee,
~ who purported to have a 'free energy' system that used geothermal energy in
~ conjunction with freeon flowing through coils to generate turbine movement
~ and hence operate a generator. He claimed to offer free installations for a
~ limited time of these units.
~ I also read that he was arrested for fraud.
~ I watched a video that his people produced, and although some of the
~ 'theory' looked almost plausible, the guy didn't strike me as an inventor,
~ but more of a marketeer/shyster.
~ Right now, I expect to find solar cells and wind power to be closest to
~ realistic, unless there have been significant advances in other technologies
~ that I'm not current on.

I think you should read up on earth-source heat exchangers (often
erroneously called "geothermal"). They aren't inexpensive to
install, but they're the most practical "sustainable" heating source.

There are dozens of websites of interest, including many government
websites in the US and Canada that describe how they work and what
efficiencies you can gain with them. They are powered by
electricity, but use roughly 25% as much electricity to heat and cool
your home as using electrical heating. You could also consider an
air-source heat pump, but they aren't as efficient. However, the
payback period is shorter since they're not much more expensive than
regular heating systems.

Rick
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