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I recently replaced the outlets in my livingroom. Prior to the replacement,
one plug in each outlet in the room was controlled by a light switch. Now-- none of the outlets/plugs is controlled by the switch. I removed one of the outlets to see if the small metal bridge between the to plugs in the switch had been snapped out (removed) as it should have been--- it was. Would I be correct in presuming that in one of the remaining six outlets the bridge has not been removed causing all outlets to function with the switch in the on or off position? As it is (no switch control, all outlets hot), is it a hazard? |
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Hi,
If the receptacle is split, they're fed by different circuit. Tony Pelorus wrote: I recently replaced the outlets in my livingroom. Prior to the replacement, one plug in each outlet in the room was controlled by a light switch. Now-- none of the outlets/plugs is controlled by the switch. I removed one of the outlets to see if the small metal bridge between the to plugs in the switch had been snapped out (removed) as it should have been--- it was. Would I be correct in presuming that in one of the remaining six outlets the bridge has not been removed causing all outlets to function with the switch in the on or off position? As it is (no switch control, all outlets hot), is it a hazard? |
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In article akDOb.164501$X%5.104400@pd7tw2no, Tony Hwang wrote:
Hi, If the receptacle is split, they're fed by different circuit. Tony Complete and utter nonsense. They could just as easily be fed by a different leg of the same circuit. Pelorus wrote: I recently replaced the outlets in my livingroom. Prior to the replacement, one plug in each outlet in the room was controlled by a light switch. Now-- none of the outlets/plugs is controlled by the switch. I removed one of the outlets to see if the small metal bridge between the to plugs in the switch had been snapped out (removed) as it should have been--- it was. Would I be correct in presuming that in one of the remaining six outlets the bridge has not been removed causing all outlets to function with the switch in the on or off position? As it is (no switch control, all outlets hot), is it a hazard? -- Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America? |
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Doug Miller wrote: In article akDOb.164501$X%5.104400@pd7tw2no, Tony Hwang wrote: Hi, If the receptacle is split, they're fed by different circuit. Tony Complete and utter nonsense. They could just as easily be fed by a different leg of the same circuit. Hi, At least not in my house. I don't want to lose both at the same time. My doing. Tony Pelorus wrote: I recently replaced the outlets in my livingroom. Prior to the replacement, one plug in each outlet in the room was controlled by a light switch. Now-- none of the outlets/plugs is controlled by the switch. I removed one of the outlets to see if the small metal bridge between the to plugs in the switch had been snapped out (removed) as it should have been--- it was. Would I be correct in presuming that in one of the remaining six outlets the bridge has not been removed causing all outlets to function with the switch in the on or off position? As it is (no switch control, all outlets hot), is it a hazard? -- Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America? |
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In article 2SFOb.167249$ts4.5106@pd7tw3no, Tony Hwang wrote:
Doug Miller wrote: In article akDOb.164501$X%5.104400@pd7tw2no, Tony Hwang wrote: Hi, If the receptacle is split, they're fed by different circuit. Tony Complete and utter nonsense. They could just as easily be fed by a different leg of the same circuit. Hi, At least not in my house. I don't want to lose both at the same time. My doing. Tony Just because that's how you did it, doesn't mean that's the only way it can be done. -- Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America? |
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Doug Miller wrote: In article 2SFOb.167249$ts4.5106@pd7tw3no, Tony Hwang wrote: Doug Miller wrote: In article akDOb.164501$X%5.104400@pd7tw2no, Tony Hwang wrote: Hi, If the receptacle is split, they're fed by different circuit. Tony Complete and utter nonsense. They could just as easily be fed by a different leg of the same circuit. Hi, At least not in my house. I don't want to lose both at the same time. My doing. Tony Just because that's how you did it, doesn't mean that's the only way it can be done. Hi, Why put all the eggs in one basket? That was my ligic. Tony -- Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America? |
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According to Tony Hwang :
Doug Miller wrote: In article akDOb.164501$X%5.104400@pd7tw2no, Tony Hwang wrote: If the receptacle is split, they're fed by different circuit. Complete and utter nonsense. They could just as easily be fed by a different leg of the same circuit. At least not in my house. I don't want to lose both at the same time. My doing. Are they on tied breakers? If not, it's a code violation. -- Chris Lewis, Una confibula non set est It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them. |
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I don't believe that it is a code violation. I don't like to see
multiple breakers feeding one box but the last time I looked it was within what the NEC permitted for 120 volts. RB Chris Lewis wrote: According to Tony Hwang : Doug Miller wrote: In article akDOb.164501$X%5.104400@pd7tw2no, Tony Hwang wrote: If the receptacle is split, they're fed by different circuit. Complete and utter nonsense. They could just as easily be fed by a different leg of the same circuit. At least not in my house. I don't want to lose both at the same time. My doing. Are they on tied breakers? If not, it's a code violation. |
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On 18 Jan 2004, Pelorus wrote:
I recently replaced the outlets in my livingroom. Prior to the replacement, one plug in each outlet in the room was controlled by a light switch. Now-- none of the outlets/plugs is controlled by the switch. I removed one of the outlets to see if the small metal bridge between the to plugs in the switch had been snapped out (removed) as it should have been--- it was. Would I be correct in presuming that in one of the remaining six outlets the bridge has not been removed causing all outlets to function with the switch in the on or off position? As it is (no switch control, all outlets hot), is it a hazard? Yes, you are correct. All of the bridges must be removed. If even one remains, it effectively feeds power to the other plug in that duplex, and since that is connected to all of the others that would normally be switched, then they all get fed too. If both the switched power and the constant power are coming from the same side of the neutral, then there is no problem, it's a parallel supply from the same source. If the two were being fed by opposite phases, you would have a dead short across the 240V at the metal bridge. You would know that by now g. -- Baisez-les s'ils ne peuvent pas prendre une plaisanterie -------------------------------------------------------- Tom Pendergast e-mail is for sissies, say it on line |
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If both the switched power and the constant power are coming from the same side of the neutral, then there is no problem, it's a parallel supply from the same source. If the two were being fed by opposite phases, you would have a dead short across the 240V at the metal bridge. You would know that by now g. Then why bring it up? Although it is certainly possible to do otherwise for special purposes, most switched/unswitched outlets are on the same circuit. |
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On 18 Jan 2004, Toller wrote:
If both the switched power and the constant power are coming from the same side of the neutral, then there is no problem, it's a parallel supply from the same source. If the two were being fed by opposite phases, you would have a dead short across the 240V at the metal bridge. You would know that by now g. Then why bring it up? Uhhh, just trying to teach somebody something? Sorry that offends you for some reason. Although it is certainly possible to do otherwise for special purposes, most switched/unswitched outlets are on the same circuit. No argument there. Lots of people reading this group are trying to educate themselves. Maybe somewhere down the road somebody will remember that answee as a reason *not* to do it that way. -- Baisez-les s'ils ne peuvent pas prendre une plaisanterie -------------------------------------------------------- Tom Pendergast e-mail is for sissies, say it on line |
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