Some of you have coated a deck with some sort of coating. Whether it's a
stain, paint, or something else. What brands have you found to be good
quality, or maybe you have been dissapointed with some brands.

What brands and types of coatings have you used, and what was your
opinion of them. If you used them on siding or trim, that also matters.

Please state the brand name, type (solid stain, transparent stain,
paint, or other). Was this used on a deck, siding, fence, or something
else? What kind of wood was it applied to (standard, treated, new, old,
etc)? How was it applied? How long did it last, or NOT last, and what
happened to it as it aged? Were you satisfied? If you want to rate them
on a scale from 1 to 10, please do. (One of terrible, ten is excellent).

Please base your responses ONLY on personal experience, or that of
someone else who you know. NOT on advertising, price, or what you heard
or read about someone who you dont know.


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On Saturday, September 3, 2016 at 4:30:04 AM UTC-4, wrote:
Some of you have coated a deck with some sort of coating. Whether it's a
stain, paint, or something else. What brands have you found to be good
quality, or maybe you have been dissapointed with some brands.

What brands and types of coatings have you used, and what was your
opinion of them. If you used them on siding or trim, that also matters.

Please state the brand name, type (solid stain, transparent stain,
paint, or other). Was this used on a deck, siding, fence, or something
else? What kind of wood was it applied to (standard, treated, new, old,
etc)? How was it applied? How long did it last, or NOT last, and what
happened to it as it aged? Were you satisfied? If you want to rate them
on a scale from 1 to 10, please do. (One of terrible, ten is excellent).

Please base your responses ONLY on personal experience, or that of
someone else who you know. NOT on advertising, price, or what you heard
or read about someone who you dont know.



I've used solid stain on cedar house siding. MAB the first time, that
lasted 12 years. Used Benjamin Moore last time, that's been 2 years
now. There was zero peeling, prep work was essentially just power
washing it. I would favor using a stain on a deck, because less
tendency to peel. The BM Arborcoat is a really nice produce, flows
well, covers well. Overall I've been very happy with BM products.

I've used Cabot's Driftwood Gray on my deck. It's a semi-transparent
stain. Oil based so clean up is a minor pain. Other than that it goes on
well and lasts about 5 yrs. This is in central North Carolina

Dave M.

On 9/3/2016 3:28 AM, wrote:
Some of you have coated a deck with some sort of coating. Whether it's a
stain, paint, or something else. What brands have you found to be good
quality, or maybe you have been dissapointed with some brands.

What brands and types of coatings have you used, and what was your
opinion of them. If you used them on siding or trim, that also matters.


I've not found any that worked well on the horizontal decking. The
vertical surfaces never a problem with either Cabot or Olympic.

I finally solved the problem with the deck surface by replacing it with
Tiger Wood (goncalco alves).
http://www.advantagelumber.com/tigerwood_decking.htm

On Saturday, September 3, 2016 at 9:00:09 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 9/3/2016 3:28 AM, wrote:
Some of you have coated a deck with some sort of coating. Whether it's a
stain, paint, or something else. What brands have you found to be good
quality, or maybe you have been dissapointed with some brands.

What brands and types of coatings have you used, and what was your
opinion of them. If you used them on siding or trim, that also matters.

I've not found any that worked well on the horizontal decking. The
vertical surfaces never a problem with either Cabot or Olympic.

I finally solved the problem with the deck surface by replacing it with
Tiger Wood (goncalco alves).
http://www.advantagelumber.com/tigerwood_decking.htm


I saw Tiger Wood and immediately thought...... golf. giggle

[8~{} Uncle Silly Monster

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote

| I've not found any that worked well on the horizontal decking. The
| vertical surfaces never a problem with either Cabot or Olympic.
|

I've been using Cabot's solid oil for years. I get
2-3 years out of it, but it's easy to recoat and looks
nice. On the other hand, it's getting hard to find and
the water-base deck stains are bad.

| I finally solved the problem with the deck surface by replacing it with
| Tiger Wood (goncalco alves).
| http://www.advantagelumber.com/tigerwood_decking.htm
|

I'd be wary of that in the long run. It looks great
at first, but eventually it'll be gray. If that's OK
then why not just use fir 1x4 with linseed oil? And how
will it age over years?
I have a customer with a purple heart deck. For the
first few years it was gorgeous. He'd sand it every
Spring and put clear sealer on it. But eventually
that was too much work. It grayed. It swelled.
I had to cut gaps between boards for him repeatedly.
It eventually started to shred and rotted under his
planters. Tough stuff, but it's only been about 15
years and now it's an ugly mess, which he's had to
stain a solid, dark red in order to hide the dirty, uneven
gray look.
The problem with many new solutions is that they're
just not time-tested. Purple heart is nowhere to be
found now. It was a fad for a few years.

What I've been recommending to people who want
a nice look is "mahogany" 1x4 coated with one of
the wood-color stains Benj. Moore has come up with
to replace Aust. Timber Oil. (Which is now water-base
and bears no resemblance to the original product.)
I'm planning to do such a job next week, replacing
cracked PT decking that's become too weathered
to hold stain.
There is one limitation there, though. Many houses
don't look good with a wood-grain deck. It's rustic.
For solid color decking there just isn't an ideal solution.

On 09/03/2016 03:28 AM, wrote:
Some of you have coated a deck with some sort of coating. Whether it's a
stain, paint, or something else. What brands have you found to be good
quality, or maybe you have been dissapointed with some brands.

What brands and types of coatings have you used, and what was your
opinion of them. If you used them on siding or trim, that also matters.


Thanks to the environmental wackos, I'm not sure you can legally buy a decent deck coating.
About 10 years ago I rebuilt my decks using HomeDepot's Veranda decking and vinyl rails and they still look new.
Just give 'em a quick squirt with the pressure washer every 5 years or so.

On 9/3/2016 10:43 AM, Mayayana wrote:
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote


| I finally solved the problem with the deck surface by replacing it with
| Tiger Wood (goncalco alves).
| http://www.advantagelumber.com/tigerwood_decking.htm
|

I'd be wary of that in the long run. It looks great
at first, but eventually it'll be gray. If that's OK
then why not just use fir 1x4 with linseed oil? And how
will it age over years?

It is pretty gray already. I can keep it looking good if I wanted to put
the labor into it. I choose not to.

The first deck was fir and lasted five years. I built a larger deck and
used PT. It lasted 20 years and needed to be stained frequently or
looked like crap. The structure is still good, just the flat decking was
going.

The tiger wood us supposed to last 50 years it nothing is done to it.
If true, that is my last deck as I won't last another 50 years.


I have a customer with a purple heart deck. For the
first few years it was gorgeous. He'd sand it every
Spring and put clear sealer on it. But eventually
that was too much work. It grayed. It swelled.

I have gaps as installed. I have no intention of sanding it every year
and the gray is acceptable to me.



What I've been recommending to people who want
a nice look is "mahogany" 1x4 coated with one of
the wood-color stains Benj. Moore has come up with
to replace Aust. Timber Oil.


I built a bench with mahogany and it looks good with just oil every few
years. I'm done with stain as it looks like crap after while.

On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 11:19:34 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 9/3/2016 10:43 AM, Mayayana wrote:
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote


| I finally solved the problem with the deck surface by replacing it with
| Tiger Wood (goncalco alves).
| http://www.advantagelumber.com/tigerwood_decking.htm
|

I'd be wary of that in the long run. It looks great
at first, but eventually it'll be gray. If that's OK
then why not just use fir 1x4 with linseed oil? And how
will it age over years?

It is pretty gray already. I can keep it looking good if I wanted to put
the labor into it. I choose not to.

The first deck was fir and lasted five years. I built a larger deck and
used PT. It lasted 20 years and needed to be stained frequently or
looked like crap. The structure is still good, just the flat decking was
going.

The tiger wood us supposed to last 50 years it nothing is done to it.
If true, that is my last deck as I won't last another 50 years.

I went with Ipe that will be here when my grandkids get old.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Deck%20going%20down.jpg
Honestly I should have just used PT if I was looking for something
that would last 10 years (my statistic life expectancy).

On 9/3/2016 11:08 AM, Di Hydrogen Monoxide wrote:
On 09/03/2016 03:28 AM, wrote:
Some of you have coated a deck with some sort of coating. Whether it's a
stain, paint, or something else. What brands have you found to be good
quality, or maybe you have been dissapointed with some brands.

What brands and types of coatings have you used, and what was your
opinion of them. If you used them on siding or trim, that also matters.


Thanks to the environmental wackos, I'm not sure you can legally buy a
decent deck coating.
About 10 years ago I rebuilt my decks using HomeDepot's Veranda decking
and vinyl rails and they still look new.
Just give 'em a quick squirt with the pressure washer every 5 years or so.

That's right and anything that you loved 10 years ago reformulated to
abide by VOC rules may now be crap now.