We have someone renovating our 1920s bathroom. Somewhere along the way, he
discovered a 2" slope in the floor from the back of the 10' bathroom to the
front. He then went ahead and poured self leveling compound (SLC) on the floor
to "even things out" so that we can tile the floor and walls. Now there is a
2.5" difference in height between the bathroom floor and the hallway wood
flooring. I can't even find reducers that run that high, and any mockups I try
to make of a ramp look ridiculous.

Is this standard procedure for leveling a floor? I have never seen such a high
gap between substrates before. I have to really bend my knee to step down from
the bathroom into the hallway. I can't even find pictures of such a high gap
online. I am wondering why they chose to level the floor rather than just find
a middle ground and work from there. A 1" difference in height I could have
handled. Anyone have this happen before? How did you handle it? Thinking of
having poured floors removed, which sounds like a major undertaking I am keen
on avoiding. This just sticks out like a sore thumb as is. Thanks for any
information you can give!

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We have someone renovating our 1920s bathroom. Somewhere along the way, he
discovered a 2" slope in the floor from the back of the 10' bathroom to the
front. He then went ahead and poured self leveling compound (SLC) on the
floor
to "even things out" so that we can tile the floor and walls. Now there is a
2.5" difference in height between the bathroom floor and the hallway wood
flooring. I can't even find reducers that run that high, and any mockups I
try
to make of a ramp look ridiculous.

Is this standard procedure for leveling a floor? I have never seen such a
high
gap between substrates before. I have to really bend my knee to step down
from
the bathroom into the hallway. I can't even find pictures of such a high gap
online. I am wondering why they chose to level the floor rather than just
find
a middle ground and work from there. A 1" difference in height I could have
handled. Anyone have this happen before? How did you handle it? Thinking of
having poured floors removed, which sounds like a major undertaking I am
keen
on avoiding. This just sticks out like a sore thumb as is. Thanks for any
information you can give!

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On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 9:14:05 PM UTC-4, J wrote:
We have someone renovating our 1920s bathroom. Somewhere along the way, he
discovered a 2" slope in the floor from the back of the 10' bathroom to the
front. He then went ahead and poured self leveling compound (SLC) on the floor
to "even things out" so that we can tile the floor and walls. Now there is a
2.5" difference in height between the bathroom floor and the hallway wood
flooring. I can't even find reducers that run that high, and any mockups I try
to make of a ramp look ridiculous.

Is this standard procedure for leveling a floor? I have never seen such a high
gap between substrates before. I have to really bend my knee to step down from
the bathroom into the hallway. I can't even find pictures of such a high gap
online. I am wondering why they chose to level the floor rather than just find
a middle ground and work from there. A 1" difference in height I could have
handled. Anyone have this happen before? How did you handle it? Thinking of
having poured floors removed, which sounds like a major undertaking I am keen
on avoiding. This just sticks out like a sore thumb as is. Thanks for any
information you can give!


I have to imagine that he would have had to build a dam to prevent the compound
from flowing into the hallway. As soon as that situation presented itself he should
have stopped. Did he really think that a 2.5" step into the bathroom would be OK
without asking you first?

If that happened to me, he'd be removing the floor and I would seriously consider
firing him. Something like that should have been signed off on by the client before
it was done.

On 8/11/2016 9:14 PM, J wrote:
We have someone renovating our 1920s bathroom. Somewhere along the way, he
discovered a 2" slope in the floor from the back of the 10' bathroom to the
front. He then went ahead and poured self leveling compound (SLC) on the
floor
to "even things out" so that we can tile the floor and walls. Now there
is a
2.5" difference in height between the bathroom floor and the hallway wood
flooring. I can't even find reducers that run that high, and any mockups
I try
to make of a ramp look ridiculous.

You need a new contractor. First thing to do with that much difference
is to determine the cause and see of it can be corrected. If the floor
sagged two inches there may be a structural problem that will get worse
with the compound and tile weight.

Is it a first or second floor bath? It may have to be jacked in the
basement and if the second floor, another support. Check before you
waste a lot of money on a room that may need major structural work.

On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 01:14:01 +0000, J
wrote:

We have someone renovating our 1920s bathroom. Somewhere along the way, he
discovered a 2" slope in the floor from the back of the 10' bathroom to the
front. He then went ahead and poured self leveling compound (SLC) on the floor
to "even things out" so that we can tile the floor and walls. Now there is a
2.5" difference in height between the bathroom floor and the hallway wood
flooring. I can't even find reducers that run that high, and any mockups I try
to make of a ramp look ridiculous.

Is this standard procedure for leveling a floor? I have never seen such a high
gap between substrates before. I have to really bend my knee to step down from
the bathroom into the hallway. I can't even find pictures of such a high gap
online. I am wondering why they chose to level the floor rather than just find
a middle ground and work from there. A 1" difference in height I could have
handled. Anyone have this happen before? How did you handle it? Thinking of
having poured floors removed, which sounds like a major undertaking I am keen
on avoiding. This just sticks out like a sore thumb as is. Thanks for any
information you can give!
How thick is the "pad" at the thinest point? Sounds like the guy went
overboard. If the house is sagged that badly in the bathroom perhaps
it should be jacked back up to level. The only other alternative would
be to shim the rest of the floors to level to match -- not a small job
- and not as good as jacking to level if it can be done.

I had one situation with a "ski hill" in a foyer where I actually
lowered the floor in the middle by removing the subfloor and shaving
the joists, then re-installing subfloor. This might be an option if
you can "sister" the joists to maintain integrety/strength.

J writes:

We have someone renovating our 1920s bathroom. Somewhere along the
way, he discovered a 2" slope in the floor from the back of the 10'
bathroom to the front. He then went ahead and poured self leveling
compound (SLC) on the floor to "even things out" so that we can tile
the floor and walls. Now there is a 2.5" difference in height between
the bathroom floor and the hallway wood flooring. I can't even find
reducers that run that high, and any mockups I try to make of a ramp
look ridiculous.

Is this standard procedure for leveling a floor? I have never seen
such a high gap between substrates before. I have to really bend my
knee to step down from the bathroom into the hallway. I can't even
find pictures of such a high gap online. I am wondering why they chose
to level the floor rather than just find a middle ground and work from
there. A 1" difference in height I could have handled. Anyone have
this happen before? How did you handle it? Thinking of having poured
floors removed, which sounds like a major undertaking I am keen on
avoiding. This just sticks out like a sore thumb as is. Thanks for any
information you can give!

Seen this on This Old House. (So that makes me an expert.) You go in
the basement, find the problem, jack up the floor and repair.

Once knew someone renting new construction in the Bronx. House was out
of tilt about a foot and a half front to back. They had a false floor
in place, but it was a stopgap solution.

If you don't fix the cause of the problem, it usually just gets worse.

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Dan Espen

On 08/11/2016 07:14 PM, J wrote:
We have someone renovating our 1920s bathroom. Somewhere along the way, he
discovered a 2" slope in the floor from the back of the 10' bathroom to the
front. He then went ahead and poured self leveling compound (SLC) on the floor
to "even things out" so that we can tile the floor and walls. Now there is a
2.5" difference in height between the bathroom floor and the hallway wood
flooring. I can't even find reducers that run that high, and any mockups I try
to make of a ramp look ridiculous.
Is this standard procedure for leveling a floor?

Let me guess, this contractor didn't get a building permit.

On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 02:35:47 -0600, Abduhl wrote:

On 08/11/2016 07:14 PM, J wrote:
We have someone renovating our 1920s bathroom. Somewhere along the way, he
discovered a 2" slope in the floor from the back of the 10' bathroom to the
front. He then went ahead and poured self leveling compound (SLC) on the floor
to "even things out" so that we can tile the floor and walls. Now there is a
2.5" difference in height between the bathroom floor and the hallway wood
flooring. I can't even find reducers that run that high, and any mockups I try
to make of a ramp look ridiculous.
Is this standard procedure for leveling a floor?

Let me guess, this contractor didn't get a building permit.

It may not be required for internal non structural work. He's putting
down tile, not ripping walls out.

On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 10:07:45 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 9:14:05 PM UTC-4, J wrote:
We have someone renovating our 1920s bathroom. Somewhere along the way, he
discovered a 2" slope in the floor from the back of the 10' bathroom to the
front. He then went ahead and poured self leveling compound (SLC) on the floor
to "even things out" so that we can tile the floor and walls. Now there is a
2.5" difference in height between the bathroom floor and the hallway wood
flooring. I can't even find reducers that run that high, and any mockups I try
to make of a ramp look ridiculous.

Is this standard procedure for leveling a floor? I have never seen such a high
gap between substrates before. I have to really bend my knee to step down from
the bathroom into the hallway. I can't even find pictures of such a high gap
online. I am wondering why they chose to level the floor rather than just find
a middle ground and work from there. A 1" difference in height I could have
handled. Anyone have this happen before? How did you handle it? Thinking of
having poured floors removed, which sounds like a major undertaking I am keen
on avoiding. This just sticks out like a sore thumb as is. Thanks for any
information you can give!


I have to imagine that he would have had to build a dam to prevent the compound
from flowing into the hallway. As soon as that situation presented itself he should
have stopped. Did he really think that a 2.5" step into the bathroom would be OK
without asking you first?


+1 x 100

And what does the contractor say now? I'd be asking him how he
plans to solve it, what he was thinking.


If that happened to me, he'd be removing the floor and I would seriously consider
firing him. Something like that should have been signed off on by the client before
it was done.

+1

What did he do with the door? Cut it short? And as others have said,
an investigation needs to be done to find out where the sinking has
come from, is there a reasonable way to fix it correctly, is it stable
now or still sinking, etc.

On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 05:52:59 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 02:35:47 -0600, Abduhl wrote:

On 08/11/2016 07:14 PM, J wrote:
We have someone renovating our 1920s bathroom. Somewhere along the way, he
discovered a 2" slope in the floor from the back of the 10' bathroom to the
front. He then went ahead and poured self leveling compound (SLC) on the floor
to "even things out" so that we can tile the floor and walls. Now there is a
2.5" difference in height between the bathroom floor and the hallway wood
flooring. I can't even find reducers that run that high, and any mockups I try
to make of a ramp look ridiculous.
Is this standard procedure for leveling a floor?

Let me guess, this contractor didn't get a building permit.

It may not be required for internal non structural work. He's putting
down tile, not ripping walls out.
TECHNICALLY here we require a permit to replace roll flooring with
tile (there are structural issues) but not replacing roll or vinyl
tile with same.
In real life, the permit is seldome pulled.

Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us...



On 8/11/2016 9:14 PM, J wrote:
We have someone renovating our 1920s bathroom. Somewhere along the way, he
discovered a 2" slope in the floor from the back of the 10' bathroom to the
front. He then went ahead and poured self leveling compound (SLC) on the
floor
to "even things out" so that we can tile the floor and walls. Now there
is a
2.5" difference in height between the bathroom floor and the hallway wood
flooring. I can't even find reducers that run that high, and any mockups
I try
to make of a ramp look ridiculous.

You need a new contractor. First thing to do with that much difference
is to determine the cause and see of it can be corrected. If the floor
sagged two inches there may be a structural problem that will get worse
with the compound and tile weight.

Is it a first or second floor bath? It may have to be jacked in the
basement and if the second floor, another support. Check before you
waste a lot of money on a room that may need major structural work.

+1 He probably needs a jack job...

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Tekkie