Does a belt sander work faster than an orbital sander?

And does it need special sanding paper as opposed to an orbital sander. :-)

Andy

On 4/7/2016 6:36 PM, Andy wrote:
Does a belt sander work faster than an orbital sander?

And does it need special sanding paper as opposed to an orbital sander. :-)

Andy


Define special sanding paper? A belt sander requires a belt sandpaper.
It's a continuous connect loop of sandpaper whereas a orbital sander
uses a disk sandpaper. Either one has a variety of grit.

Using the same grit on both sanders, a belt sander will sand down wood
at a much faster speed than an orbital sander.

"Andy" wrote in message
...

Does a belt sander work faster than an orbital sander?

And does it need special sanding paper as opposed to an orbital sander. :-)

Andy

It all depend how do you use it and for what purpose.
Orbital sander dose not have option to be use cross the grid or down the
grid
while belt sander dose and what type wood you use it on???

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On 4/7/2016 6:36 PM, Andy wrote:
Does a belt sander work faster than an orbital sander?

And does it need special sanding paper as opposed to an orbital sander. :-)

Andy


Define special sanding paper? A belt sander requires a belt sandpaper.
It's a continuous connect loop of sandpaper whereas a orbital sander
uses a disk sandpaper. Either one has a variety of grit.

Using the same grit on both sanders, a belt sander will sand down wood
at a much faster speed than an orbital sander.

Not to mention what material is being sanded... wood, metal, fiberglass
etc...

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Andy wrote:
Does a belt sander work faster than an orbital sander?

And does it need special sanding paper as opposed to an orbital
sander. :-)

Andy

If you have to ask you don't want a belt sander.

On 4/7/2016 7:19 PM, dadiOH wrote:
Andy wrote:
Does a belt sander work faster than an orbital sander?

And does it need special sanding paper as opposed to an orbital
sander. :-)

Andy

If you have to ask you don't want a belt sander.



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On 2016-04-07, Meanie wrote:

....whereas a orbital sander uses a disk sandpaper.

Random orbital sanders use round discs and squares, depending on
brand. A square piece fer sqr orb sanders can be cut from any sheet
of sandpaper, including a "belt", and are usually held to the machine
via pressure bars. Round discs fer rnd orb sanders usually have some sorta
glue to attach the sandpaper discs.

Disc sanders obviously use round sandpaper discs.

nb

On Thu, 7 Apr 2016 15:36:55 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote:

Does a belt sander work faster than an orbital sander?

And does it need special sanding paper as opposed to an orbital sander. :-)

Andy

You use a belt sander when you want to remove a lot of material. You
use an orbital sander when you are looking for a very uniform finish.
I have both.

On Thu, 7 Apr 2016 18:51:06 -0400, Meanie wrote:


[...] a belt sander will sand down wood at a much faster speed

+1 on that. I bought one to do one job of 'flushing' the overhang of the
bottom of a built-in cupboard to fit a slightly oversize fridge in my
kitchen.

The job was done in about 20 seconds.

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On 2016-04-07 7:40 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
On Thu, 7 Apr 2016 18:51:06 -0400, Meanie wrote:


[...] a belt sander will sand down wood at a much faster speed

+1 on that. I bought one to do one job of 'flushing' the overhang of the
bottom of a built-in cupboard to fit a slightly oversize fridge in my
kitchen.

The job was done in about 20 seconds.

Hope you have used it since or you should have rented it. Buying a tool
my rule is, if I can never see myself using it again, rent, else buy.

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On 4/7/2016 6:36 PM, Andy wrote:
Does a belt sander work faster than an orbital sander?

And does it need special sanding paper as opposed to an orbital sander. :-)

Andy


Belts are generally faster, but they don't give as fine a finish. Most
woodworkers use both for different purposes.

The belt with a course grit can remove a lot of wood and can give you a
long straight edge,can be used to tweak the dimensions as you sneak up
on the pencil mark.

Orbital is better for fine work. I have one I jeep loaded with 100
grit, the other with 220 grit.

Paper selection depends on the job you want to do.

Meanie wrote ... on Thu, 07 Apr 2016 18:51:06 -0400 ...

Using the same grit on both sanders, a belt sander will sand down wood
at a much faster speed than an orbital sander.

I've had both and I can't stand orbital sanders.

Lots of people do fine with cross-grain sanding and it's good for corners
and non-flat areas.

But, if my kid asked me "Daddy, which sander should I get first", it
would be a belt sander, hands down, first choice.

(Nothing wrong with a few extra tools so go ahead and get that orbital,
but get it when you need it.)

FrozenNorth wrote ... on Thu, 07 Apr 2016 19:46:31 -0400 ...

Hope you have used it since or you should have rented it. Buying a tool
my rule is, if I can never see myself using it again, rent, else buy.

My rule is slightly different, but it has similar effects.

1. If you *know* you'll use a set of tools, buy them on sale (if you can).
2. If you *need* a tool now, then consider renting.

Things that are "big" are often often better rented than bought, e.g.,
- Wood chippers
- Tillers
- Steam rollers
- Steam cleaners

But smaller stuff is often better bought, e.g.,
- Belt sanders
- Bench grinders
- Chainsaws
- Lawnmowers

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 6:19:36 PM UTC-5, dadiOH wrote:
Andy wrote:
Does a belt sander work faster than an orbital sander?

And does it need special sanding paper as opposed to an orbital
sander. :-)

Andy

If you have to ask you don't want a belt sander.

You are real helpful. NOT !!

:-)

I will chalk up your response to a bad day.

Maybe a belt sander fell on you today while it was running.

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 5:51:25 PM UTC-5, SBH wrote:
On 4/7/2016 6:36 PM, Andy wrote:
Does a belt sander work faster than an orbital sander?

And does it need special sanding paper as opposed to an orbital sander. :-)

Andy


Define special sanding paper? A belt sander requires a belt sandpaper.
It's a continuous connect loop of sandpaper whereas a orbital sander
uses a disk sandpaper. Either one has a variety of grit.

Using the same grit on both sanders, a belt sander will sand down wood
at a much faster speed than an orbital sander.

My orbital sander uses a 1/4 sheet of sandpaper.

I am quite sure that a sandpaper loop is quite a bit more expensive.

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 5:37:00 PM UTC-5, Andy wrote:
Does a belt sander work faster than an orbital sander?

And does it need special sanding paper as opposed to an orbital sander. :-)

Andy

On 04/07/2016 04:36 PM, Andy wrote:
Does a belt sander work faster than an orbital sander?

Yes, and they are a lot more fun. Lock the trigger and set it on the
ground. You'd be surprised how far it makes it before pulling the
extension cord out of the socket. We used to have belt sander races on
slow days.

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 6:49:51 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/7/2016 6:36 PM, Andy wrote:
Does a belt sander work faster than an orbital sander?

And does it need special sanding paper as opposed to an orbital sander. :-)

Andy

Belts are generally faster, but they don't give as fine a finish. Most
woodworkers use both for different purposes.

The belt with a course grit can remove a lot of wood and can give you a
long straight edge,can be used to tweak the dimensions as you sneak up
on the pencil mark.

Orbital is better for fine work. I have one I jeep loaded with 100
grit, the other with 220 grit.

Paper selection depends on the job you want to do.

Um, Ed, how do you "jeep load" something? I have a Jeep and it will carry a good load. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Jeep Monster

On Thu, 7 Apr 2016 22:47:48 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

rbowman wrote:
On 04/07/2016 04:36 PM, Andy wrote:
Does a belt sander work faster than an orbital sander?

Yes, and they are a lot more fun. Lock the trigger and set it on the
ground. You'd be surprised how far it makes it before pulling the
extension cord out of the socket. We used to have belt sander races on
slow days.

Ever shoot boards with a radial arm saw ? 7th grade shop class held the
record , almost a hundred yards - thru the front window of the shop , across
the lawn and the street in front , and landed in the field across the road .
Coulda been ugly if a student or car was going past just then ...

Damn, that's quite a record! (Quite dangerous too).

I recall when I was in HS shop class, one of the kids taped the switch
on a belt sander and launched it off a workbench. The teacher was not
pleased and the kid got suspended for a day or two. Of course the rest
of us thought it was really funny....

The stupid things we do as kids!!!

rbowman wrote:
On 04/07/2016 04:36 PM, Andy wrote:
Does a belt sander work faster than an orbital sander?

Yes, and they are a lot more fun. Lock the trigger and set it on the
ground. You'd be surprised how far it makes it before pulling the
extension cord out of the socket. We used to have belt sander races on
slow days.

Ever shoot boards with a radial arm saw ? 7th grade shop class held the
record , almost a hundred yards - thru the front window of the shop , across
the lawn and the street in front , and landed in the field across the road .
Coulda been ugly if a student or car was going past just then ...

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On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 7:33:17 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
On 2016-04-07, Meanie wrote:

....whereas a orbital sander uses a disk sandpaper.

Random orbital sanders use round discs and squares, depending on
brand. A square piece fer sqr orb sanders can be cut from any sheet
of sandpaper, including a "belt", and are usually held to the machine
via pressure bars. Round discs fer rnd orb sanders usually have some sorta
glue to attach the sandpaper discs.

Disc sanders obviously use round sandpaper discs.

nb

Are you sure that square *random* orbital sanders exist?

As far as I know, the square sanders, AKA Palm Sanders or Sheet Sanders
are orbital sanders, but not *random* orbital sanders.

If square random orbital sanders do exist, AFAIK they are a very small
subset of the square sander world. A quick Google search did not reveal
any square random orbital sanders.

On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 7:49:28 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 7:33:17 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
On 2016-04-07, Meanie wrote:

....whereas a orbital sander uses a disk sandpaper.

Random orbital sanders use round discs and squares, depending on
brand. A square piece fer sqr orb sanders can be cut from any sheet
of sandpaper, including a "belt", and are usually held to the machine
via pressure bars. Round discs fer rnd orb sanders usually have some sorta
glue to attach the sandpaper discs.

Disc sanders obviously use round sandpaper discs.

nb

Are you sure that square *random* orbital sanders exist?

As far as I know, the square sanders, AKA Palm Sanders or Sheet Sanders
are orbital sanders, but not *random* orbital sanders.

If square random orbital sanders do exist, AFAIK they are a very small
subset of the square sander world. A quick Google search did not reveal
any square random orbital sanders.

This is what I have. I do not know if it is orbital or not.

SKIL 7232-01 1.8 AMP 1/4 SHEET PALM SANDER

Andy

wrote:
On Thu, 7 Apr 2016 22:47:48 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

rbowman wrote:
On 04/07/2016 04:36 PM, Andy wrote:
Does a belt sander work faster than an orbital sander?

Yes, and they are a lot more fun. Lock the trigger and set it on the
ground. You'd be surprised how far it makes it before pulling the
extension cord out of the socket. We used to have belt sander races
on slow days.

Ever shoot boards with a radial arm saw ? 7th grade shop class held
the record , almost a hundred yards - thru the front window of the
shop , across the lawn and the street in front , and landed in the
field across the road . Coulda been ugly if a student or car was
going past just then ...

Damn, that's quite a record! (Quite dangerous too).

I recall when I was in HS shop class, one of the kids taped the switch
on a belt sander and launched it off a workbench. The teacher was not
pleased and the kid got suspended for a day or two. Of course the rest
of us thought it was really funny....

The stupid things we do as kids!!!

No kiddin' ! Like holding the leads to the welder and turning it on to see
how much amperage you could stand . And the acoustic tile ceiling of that
same shop was studded with welding rods - sharpen the bare end and see if
you can make it stick . Teacher never did figure out where all the rod went
IIRC . He shoulda stayed in the shop when there were students present ...

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On 4/8/2016 8:06 AM, Andy wrote:
On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 7:49:28 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 7:33:17 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
On 2016-04-07, Meanie wrote:


[snip]
As far as I know, the square sanders, AKA Palm Sanders or Sheet Sanders
are orbital sanders, but not *random* orbital sanders.

If square random orbital sanders do exist, AFAIK they are a very small
subset of the square sander world. A quick Google search did not reveal
any square random orbital sanders.

This is what I have. I do not know if it is orbital or not.

SKIL 7232-01 1.8 AMP 1/4 SHEET PALM SANDER

Andy

When a sander is a ROS, it will tell you so in the name/description.

On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 9:06:48 AM UTC-4, Andy wrote:
On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 7:49:28 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 7:33:17 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
On 2016-04-07, Meanie wrote:

....whereas a orbital sander uses a disk sandpaper.

Random orbital sanders use round discs and squares, depending on
brand. A square piece fer sqr orb sanders can be cut from any sheet
of sandpaper, including a "belt", and are usually held to the machine
via pressure bars. Round discs fer rnd orb sanders usually have some sorta
glue to attach the sandpaper discs.

Disc sanders obviously use round sandpaper discs.

nb

Are you sure that square *random* orbital sanders exist?

As far as I know, the square sanders, AKA Palm Sanders or Sheet Sanders
are orbital sanders, but not *random* orbital sanders.

If square random orbital sanders do exist, AFAIK they are a very small
subset of the square sander world. A quick Google search did not reveal
any square random orbital sanders.

This is what I have. I do not know if it is orbital or not.

SKIL 7232-01 1.8 AMP 1/4 SHEET PALM SANDER

Andy

Again, there is a difference between orbital and *random* orbital.

Most (if not all) palm sanders are orbital in that they move back and forth
and also in small yet consistent circles.

A random orbital sander has an offset cam on the motor shaft so that it vibrates in tiny circles, like an orbital finishing sander, but it also
spins in circles. The basically means that no single part of the pad will
ever touch the same spot of the work on any given pass.

On 04/07/2016 09:40 PM, wrote:
I recall when I was in HS shop class, one of the kids taped the switch
on a belt sander and launched it off a workbench. The teacher was not
pleased and the kid got suspended for a day or two. Of course the rest
of us thought it was really funny....

The stupid things we do as kids!!!

We were doing that as fully grown men in a fabrication shop. A couple or
three beers for lunch didn't hurt any either.

On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 05:49:23 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 7:33:17 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
On 2016-04-07, Meanie wrote:

....whereas a orbital sander uses a disk sandpaper.

Random orbital sanders use round discs and squares, depending on
brand. A square piece fer sqr orb sanders can be cut from any sheet
of sandpaper, including a "belt", and are usually held to the machine
via pressure bars. Round discs fer rnd orb sanders usually have some sorta
glue to attach the sandpaper discs.

Disc sanders obviously use round sandpaper discs.

nb

Are you sure that square *random* orbital sanders exist?

As far as I know, the square sanders, AKA Palm Sanders or Sheet Sanders
are orbital sanders, but not *random* orbital sanders.

If square random orbital sanders do exist, AFAIK they are a very small
subset of the square sander world. A quick Google search did not reveal
any square random orbital sanders.

They are not that rare. I have 2 and both use rectangular sheet of
sand paper (half a full sheet)

On 2016-04-08, wrote:

Are you sure that square *random* orbital sanders exist?

No.

As far as I know, the square sanders, AKA Palm Sanders or Sheet Sanders
are orbital sanders, but not *random* orbital sanders.

No mas!

nb

On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 8:56:42 AM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 04/07/2016 09:40 PM, wrote:
I recall when I was in HS shop class, one of the kids taped the switch
on a belt sander and launched it off a workbench. The teacher was not
pleased and the kid got suspended for a day or two. Of course the rest
of us thought it was really funny....

The stupid things we do as kids!!!

We were doing that as fully grown men in a fabrication shop. A couple or
three beers for lunch didn't hurt any either.

I remember someone showing how to mix HT* and pine 0 pin* to make a pyrotechnic.

:-)

On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 10:42:02 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 05:49:23 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 7:33:17 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
On 2016-04-07, Meanie wrote:

....whereas a orbital sander uses a disk sandpaper.

Random orbital sanders use round discs and squares, depending on
brand. A square piece fer sqr orb sanders can be cut from any sheet
of sandpaper, including a "belt", and are usually held to the machine
via pressure bars. Round discs fer rnd orb sanders usually have some sorta
glue to attach the sandpaper discs.

Disc sanders obviously use round sandpaper discs.

nb

Are you sure that square *random* orbital sanders exist?

As far as I know, the square sanders, AKA Palm Sanders or Sheet Sanders
are orbital sanders, but not *random* orbital sanders.

If square random orbital sanders do exist, AFAIK they are a very small
subset of the square sander world. A quick Google search did not reveal
any square random orbital sanders.

They are not that rare. I have 2 and both use rectangular sheet of
sand paper (half a full sheet)

Let's be clear: square orbital sanders or square *random* orbital sanders?

Do you have a model number or even a manufacturer available?

I checked DeWalt, Milwaukee, Bosch and Festool. I may have missed it,
but I'm not finding a single square random orbital sander.

I'm not doubting you, in fact I really interested in seeing what a square
random orbital sander might do.

On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 09:45:52 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 10:42:02 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 05:49:23 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 7:33:17 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
On 2016-04-07, Meanie wrote:

....whereas a orbital sander uses a disk sandpaper.

Random orbital sanders use round discs and squares, depending on
brand. A square piece fer sqr orb sanders can be cut from any sheet
of sandpaper, including a "belt", and are usually held to the machine
via pressure bars. Round discs fer rnd orb sanders usually have some sorta
glue to attach the sandpaper discs.

Disc sanders obviously use round sandpaper discs.

nb

Are you sure that square *random* orbital sanders exist?

As far as I know, the square sanders, AKA Palm Sanders or Sheet Sanders
are orbital sanders, but not *random* orbital sanders.

If square random orbital sanders do exist, AFAIK they are a very small
subset of the square sander world. A quick Google search did not reveal
any square random orbital sanders.

They are not that rare. I have 2 and both use rectangular sheet of
sand paper (half a full sheet)

Let's be clear: square orbital sanders or square *random* orbital sanders?

Do you have a model number or even a manufacturer available?

I checked DeWalt, Milwaukee, Bosch and Festool. I may have missed it,
but I'm not finding a single square random orbital sander.

I'm not doubting you, in fact I really interested in seeing what a square
random orbital sander might do.

I don't know how "random" it is but it is certainly orbital and the
pattern seems pretty erratic..

On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 2:16:12 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 09:45:52 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 10:42:02 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 05:49:23 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 7:33:17 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
On 2016-04-07, Meanie wrote:

....whereas a orbital sander uses a disk sandpaper.

Random orbital sanders use round discs and squares, depending on
brand. A square piece fer sqr orb sanders can be cut from any sheet
of sandpaper, including a "belt", and are usually held to the machine
via pressure bars. Round discs fer rnd orb sanders usually have some sorta
glue to attach the sandpaper discs.

Disc sanders obviously use round sandpaper discs.

nb

Are you sure that square *random* orbital sanders exist?

As far as I know, the square sanders, AKA Palm Sanders or Sheet Sanders
are orbital sanders, but not *random* orbital sanders.

If square random orbital sanders do exist, AFAIK they are a very small
subset of the square sander world. A quick Google search did not reveal
any square random orbital sanders.

They are not that rare. I have 2 and both use rectangular sheet of
sand paper (half a full sheet)

Let's be clear: square orbital sanders or square *random* orbital sanders?

Do you have a model number or even a manufacturer available?

I checked DeWalt, Milwaukee, Bosch and Festool. I may have missed it,
but I'm not finding a single square random orbital sander.

I'm not doubting you, in fact I really interested in seeing what a square
random orbital sander might do.

I don't know how "random" it is but it is certainly orbital and the
pattern seems pretty erratic..

Well, there ya go! ;-)

I'm gonna stick to my guns and continue to say that there are no square random
orbital sanders, at least until proven otherwise.

It is my understanding that the difference is that square sheet sanders go
back and forth and (based on the model) around in a circle.

Random orbital sanders have a round disk that goes in a circle but also
moves in an random elliptical motion.

I don't know if the information here is 100% accurate, but it's the way
I believe things work.

http://www.bobvila.com/articles/2143.../#.Vwf6k-IrJaQ