I need to patch a spot in an asphalt driveway that has separated from the aggregate. It's level and the aggregate underneath is solid. This is where one wheel turns to make a 90 degree angle into the garage. The rest of the driveway is fine. I don't need it to look good -- just hold up through the rainy season until I can do the whole driveway.

What do you folks think about this idea...

Remove the broken pieces, sweep it out clean, pour about 1/8 layer of fine sand, replacing the broken pieces, fill with /4-inch sand, then more fine sand to fill the gaps. Then mash some kind of cold asphalt seal down into the cracks and then over the whole thing and smooth it out.

Here's a photo of a 2-ft section.
http://oi66.tinypic.com/2njc8ck.jpg

Some info I checked out..
http://www.vaasphalt.org/driveways/

On 2/13/2016 11:11 AM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
I need to patch a spot in an asphalt driveway that has separated from the
aggregate. It's level and the aggregate underneath is solid. This is where
one wheel turns to make a 90 degree angle into the garage. The rest of the
driveway is fine. I don't need it to look good -- just hold up through the
rainy season until I can do the whole driveway.

What do you folks think about this idea...

Is your goal to prevent further water infiltration (think: heaving
the remaining asphalt)? Or, just to keep that tire from dropping into
the hole/depression?

[given that you are looking for a temporary fix, how extensive will
your eventual "until I can do the while driveway" be?]

Remove the broken pieces, sweep it out clean, pour about 1/8 layer of fine
sand, replacing the broken pieces, fill with /4-inch sand, then more fine
sand to fill the gaps. Then mash some kind of cold asphalt seal down into
the cracks and then over the whole thing and smooth it out.

Here's a photo of a 2-ft section. http://oi66.tinypic.com/2njc8ck.jpg

Some info I checked out.. http://www.vaasphalt.org/driveways/

On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 1:12:14 PM UTC-5, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
I need to patch a spot in an asphalt driveway that has separated from the aggregate. It's level and the aggregate underneath is solid. This is where one wheel turns to make a 90 degree angle into the garage. The rest of the driveway is fine. I don't need it to look good -- just hold up through the rainy season until I can do the whole driveway.

What do you folks think about this idea...

Remove the broken pieces, sweep it out clean, pour about 1/8 layer of fine sand, replacing the broken pieces, fill with /4-inch sand, then more fine sand to fill the gaps. Then mash some kind of cold asphalt seal down into the cracks and then over the whole thing and smooth it out.

Here's a photo of a 2-ft section.
http://oi66.tinypic.com/2njc8ck.jpg

Some info I checked out..
http://www.vaasphalt.org/driveways/

I've fixed similar with the cold patch stuff available at HD. Didn't
have to fill in anything though. Just take the loose, old stuff out,
down to what's solid, eg packed gravel. If that's more than several
inches deep, then gravel or sand could be used. Having something to
tamp it, compact I real well is key. They sell a tamper tool at HD
if you need one. IDK where you are or how cold it is, but should
be moderate temps at least before you do it.

The patched areas can last 10+ years. Problem is that once you have
some areas like that, new ones will develop. That's what happened
here, at least.

Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
I need to patch a spot in an asphalt driveway that has separated from the aggregate. It's level and the aggregate underneath is solid. This is where one wheel turns to make a 90 degree angle into the garage. The rest of the driveway is fine. I don't need it to look good -- just hold up through the rainy season until I can do the whole driveway.

What do you folks think about this idea...

Remove the broken pieces, sweep it out clean, pour about 1/8 layer of fine sand, replacing the broken pieces, fill with /4-inch sand, then more fine sand to fill the gaps. Then mash some kind of cold asphalt seal down into the cracks and then over the whole thing and smooth it out.

Here's a photo of a 2-ft section.
http://oi66.tinypic.com/2njc8ck.jpg

Some info I checked out..
http://www.vaasphalt.org/driveways/


Isn't there any epoxy to fill all the cracks to hold
the pieces together? Road crews always fill cracks with
hot asphalt.

"Don Y" wrote in message ...
On 2/13/2016 11:11 AM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
I need to patch a spot in an asphalt driveway that has separated from the
aggregate. It's level and the aggregate underneath is solid. This is where
one wheel turns to make a 90 degree angle into the garage. The rest of the
driveway is fine. I don't need it to look good -- just hold up through the
rainy season until I can do the whole driveway.

What do you folks think about this idea...

Is your goal to prevent further water infiltration (think: heaving
the remaining asphalt)? Or, just to keep that tire from dropping into
the hole/depression?

Keep from further deterioration and seal water out for a few months

[given that you are looking for a temporary fix, how extensive will
your eventual "until I can do the while driveway" be?]

Remove the broken pieces, sweep it out clean, pour about 1/8 layer of fine
sand, replacing the broken pieces, fill with /4-inch sand, then more fine
sand to fill the gaps. Then mash some kind of cold asphalt seal down into
the cracks and then over the whole thing and smooth it out.

Here's a photo of a 2-ft section. http://oi66.tinypic.com/2njc8ck.jpg

Some info I checked out.. http://www.vaasphalt.org/driveways/

"Tony Hwang" wrote in message ...
Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
I need to patch a spot in an asphalt driveway that has separated from the aggregate. It's level and the aggregate underneath is solid. This is where one wheel turns to make a 90 degree angle into the garage. The rest of the driveway is fine. I don't need it to look good -- just hold up through the rainy season until I can do the whole driveway.

What do you folks think about this idea...

Remove the broken pieces, sweep it out clean, pour about 1/8 layer of fine sand, replacing the broken pieces, fill with /4-inch sand, then more fine sand to fill the gaps. Then mash some kind of cold asphalt seal down into the cracks and then over the whole thing and smooth it out.

Here's a photo of a 2-ft section.
http://oi66.tinypic.com/2njc8ck.jpg

Some info I checked out..
http://www.vaasphalt.org/driveways/


Isn't there any epoxy to fill all the cracks to hold
the pieces together? Road crews always fill cracks with
hot asphalt.

I think it's too many cracks for epoxy and the broken pieces would still be loose. Maybe put down some kind of sealer first, then thin layer of sand, then broken pieces, etc. Cover all with sealer similar to roof seal. (?)

I'm looking at quick and sloppy work right now. Will be doing major work later in the dry weather.

On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 2:18:09 PM UTC-5, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
"Tony Hwang" wrote in message ...
Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
I need to patch a spot in an asphalt driveway that has separated from the aggregate. It's level and the aggregate underneath is solid. This is where one wheel turns to make a 90 degree angle into the garage. The rest of the driveway is fine. I don't need it to look good -- just hold up through the rainy season until I can do the whole driveway.

What do you folks think about this idea...

Remove the broken pieces, sweep it out clean, pour about 1/8 layer of fine sand, replacing the broken pieces, fill with /4-inch sand, then more fine sand to fill the gaps. Then mash some kind of cold asphalt seal down into the cracks and then over the whole thing and smooth it out.

Here's a photo of a 2-ft section.
http://oi66.tinypic.com/2njc8ck.jpg

Some info I checked out..
http://www.vaasphalt.org/driveways/


Isn't there any epoxy to fill all the cracks to hold
the pieces together? Road crews always fill cracks with
hot asphalt.

I think it's too many cracks for epoxy and the broken pieces would still be loose. Maybe put down some kind of sealer first, then thin layer of sand, then broken pieces, etc. Cover all with sealer similar to roof seal. (?)

I'm looking at quick and sloppy work right now. Will be doing major work later in the dry weather.

If you use cold patch, tamp it in real good, compact it, you don't
need to seal it. I wouldn't sealcoat it unless I was doing the whole
driveway. And you need to let it cure for a few months before sealcoating.

On 2/13/2016 12:12 PM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
"Don Y" wrote in message ...
On 2/13/2016 11:11 AM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
I need to patch a spot in an asphalt driveway that has separated from the
aggregate. It's level and the aggregate underneath is solid. This is where
one wheel turns to make a 90 degree angle into the garage. The rest of the
driveway is fine. I don't need it to look good -- just hold up through the
rainy season until I can do the whole driveway.

What do you folks think about this idea...

Is your goal to prevent further water infiltration (think: heaving
the remaining asphalt)? Or, just to keep that tire from dropping into
the hole/depression?

Keep from further deterioration and seal water out for a few months

OK, but when you finally get around to it, will you be *replacing*
the driveway? Or, just giving it a good "going over"? I.e., how
much do you want to "save"...

[given that you are looking for a temporary fix, how extensive will
your eventual "until I can do the while driveway" be?]

"Don Y" wrote in message ...
On 2/13/2016 12:12 PM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
"Don Y" wrote in message ...
On 2/13/2016 11:11 AM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
I need to patch a spot in an asphalt driveway that has separated from the
aggregate. It's level and the aggregate underneath is solid. This is where
one wheel turns to make a 90 degree angle into the garage. The rest of the
driveway is fine. I don't need it to look good -- just hold up through the
rainy season until I can do the whole driveway.

What do you folks think about this idea...

Is your goal to prevent further water infiltration (think: heaving
the remaining asphalt)? Or, just to keep that tire from dropping into
the hole/depression?

Keep from further deterioration and seal water out for a few months

OK, but when you finally get around to it, will you be *replacing*
the driveway? Or, just giving it a good "going over"? I.e., how
much do you want to "save"...

[given that you are looking for a temporary fix, how extensive will
your eventual "until I can do the while driveway" be?]

At this point I can't answer that. At this point I will fill it to be level with the driveway and seal it against water as best I can.

On 2/13/2016 3:49 PM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
"Don Y" wrote in message
...
On 2/13/2016 12:12 PM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
"Don Y" wrote in message
...
On 2/13/2016 11:11 AM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
I need to patch a spot in an asphalt driveway that has separated
from the aggregate. It's level and the aggregate underneath is
solid. This is where one wheel turns to make a 90 degree angle into
the garage. The rest of the driveway is fine. I don't need it to
look good -- just hold up through the rainy season until I can do
the whole driveway.

What do you folks think about this idea...

Is your goal to prevent further water infiltration (think: heaving the
remaining asphalt)? Or, just to keep that tire from dropping into the
hole/depression?

Keep from further deterioration and seal water out for a few months

OK, but when you finally get around to it, will you be *replacing* the
driveway? Or, just giving it a good "going over"? I.e., how much do you
want to "save"...

[given that you are looking for a temporary fix, how extensive will
your eventual "until I can do the while driveway" be?]

At this point I can't answer that. At this point I will fill it to be level
with the driveway and seal it against water as best I can.

If you were preparing to "do a major overhaul", I'd have just suggested
a bag of quikrete and plan on pulling it out with the rest of the
driveway, later.

You might try your "city/town garage". In many places that I've lived,
you could stop by and beg a 5G pail of cold patch (bring your own
pail). Overfill the hole and use the weight of your car to compress
it into the hole (the overfill helping to seal around the edges)

We had a neighbor try to use roofing paint (!) to fill a void.
It was an interesting idea (essentially a large blob of rubber)
but didn't fare well in the long run.

"Don Y" wrote in message ...
On 2/13/2016 3:49 PM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
"Don Y" wrote in message
...
On 2/13/2016 12:12 PM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
"Don Y" wrote in message
...
On 2/13/2016 11:11 AM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
I need to patch a spot in an asphalt driveway that has separated
from the aggregate. It's level and the aggregate underneath is
solid. This is where one wheel turns to make a 90 degree angle into
the garage. The rest of the driveway is fine. I don't need it to
look good -- just hold up through the rainy season until I can do
the whole driveway.

What do you folks think about this idea...

Is your goal to prevent further water infiltration (think: heaving the
remaining asphalt)? Or, just to keep that tire from dropping into the
hole/depression?

Keep from further deterioration and seal water out for a few months

OK, but when you finally get around to it, will you be *replacing* the
driveway? Or, just giving it a good "going over"? I.e., how much do you
want to "save"...

[given that you are looking for a temporary fix, how extensive will
your eventual "until I can do the while driveway" be?]

At this point I can't answer that. At this point I will fill it to be level
with the driveway and seal it against water as best I can.

If you were preparing to "do a major overhaul", I'd have just suggested
a bag of quikrete and plan on pulling it out with the rest of the
driveway, later.

You might try your "city/town garage". In many places that I've lived,
you could stop by and beg a 5G pail of cold patch (bring your own
pail). Overfill the hole and use the weight of your car to compress
it into the hole (the overfill helping to seal around the edges)

We had a neighbor try to use roofing paint (!) to fill a void.
It was an interesting idea (essentially a large blob of rubber)
but didn't fare well in the long run.

Thanks a lot, Don. Sounds perfect for this small job.
https://www.quikrete.com/PDFs/DATA_S...tColdPatch.pdf

On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 9:33:10 PM UTC-5, Don Y wrote:
On 2/13/2016 3:49 PM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
"Don Y" wrote in message
...
On 2/13/2016 12:12 PM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
"Don Y" wrote in message
...
On 2/13/2016 11:11 AM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
I need to patch a spot in an asphalt driveway that has separated
from the aggregate. It's level and the aggregate underneath is
solid. This is where one wheel turns to make a 90 degree angle into
the garage. The rest of the driveway is fine. I don't need it to
look good -- just hold up through the rainy season until I can do
the whole driveway.

What do you folks think about this idea...

Is your goal to prevent further water infiltration (think: heaving the
remaining asphalt)? Or, just to keep that tire from dropping into the
hole/depression?

Keep from further deterioration and seal water out for a few months

OK, but when you finally get around to it, will you be *replacing* the
driveway? Or, just giving it a good "going over"? I.e., how much do you
want to "save"...

[given that you are looking for a temporary fix, how extensive will
your eventual "until I can do the while driveway" be?]

At this point I can't answer that. At this point I will fill it to be level
with the driveway and seal it against water as best I can.

If you were preparing to "do a major overhaul", I'd have just suggested
a bag of quikrete and plan on pulling it out with the rest of the
driveway, later.

You might try your "city/town garage". In many places that I've lived,
you could stop by and beg a 5G pail of cold patch (bring your own
pail).

Good way for you and some govt employee to wind up arrested. To
cheap to buy it at HD like the rest of us?

On 2/14/2016 6:41 AM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:

Thanks a lot, Don. Sounds perfect for this small job.
https://www.quikrete.com/PDFs/DATA_S...tColdPatch.pdf

*Do* check with your town garage/maintenance yard! They usually
have a pile of the stuff as they are often patching something
(roadway) somewhere.

If you walk in wearing a 3 piece suit, dressed to the nines, they'll
probably give you a brush off.

But, if you walk in like an average Joe, *asking* (not DEMANDING)
some, my experience has been that most will oblige you -- with a
sort of "here, but don't make a HABIT of it" warning.

I suspect they are bending the rules by giving stuff like this
out -- even to "residents". But, as the folks who do this sort
of work FOR the town are also the sorts who, of necessity, tend
to do their own home repairs, they are often sympathetic.

I've acquired small (token) amounts of sand, road salt, cold patch,
etc. with this approach.

But, again, make sure its EASY for them to satisfy your request.
If THEY have to find a container for you to haul it away, you
may be SoL -- just for THAT reason!

Cheer up: Spring will be there in another 3 or 4 months... :

On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 12:36:18 -0700, Don Y
wrote:

On 2/14/2016 6:41 AM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:

Thanks a lot, Don. Sounds perfect for this small job.
https://www.quikrete.com/PDFs/DATA_S...tColdPatch.pdf

*Do* check with your town garage/maintenance yard! They usually
have a pile of the stuff as they are often patching something
(roadway) somewhere.

If you walk in wearing a 3 piece suit, dressed to the nines, they'll
probably give you a brush off.

But, if you walk in like an average Joe, *asking* (not DEMANDING)
some, my experience has been that most will oblige you -- with a
sort of "here, but don't make a HABIT of it" warning.

I suspect they are bending the rules by giving stuff like this
out -- even to "residents". But, as the folks who do this sort
of work FOR the town are also the sorts who, of necessity, tend
to do their own home repairs, they are often sympathetic.

When they were putting down fresh blacktop on the road in front of our
house 50 years ago, my mother went out and asked the guys to do
something for where the mailman pulled his mailtruck over to our
mailbox. It was a small mudhole, about 4" deep, a foot wide and 2 - 3
feet long (after that came the driveway, which was paved.)

They did a nice job that matched the road. She didn't pay anyone, I
don't think, and she thought they were glad to do it, as if it was
part of the job, at least for those who asked.

They were certainly in the best position to do it, with all the
materials and machines right there.

I've acquired small (token) amounts of sand, road salt, cold patch,
etc. with this approach.

But, again, make sure its EASY for them to satisfy your request.
If THEY have to find a container for you to haul it away, you
may be SoL -- just for THAT reason!

Cheer up: Spring will be there in another 3 or 4 months... :