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How To Deal With Heavy Snow On Roof In Maryland
My brother has 20" of snow on a 5/12 roof in Maryland, and rain has been forecasted for Tuesday.
Is the greatest danger from snow weight or from ice damming? What would be the best strategy for the next 24 hours? Thank you very much in advance. Jutta Gibb |
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:19:06 -0800 (PST), wrote:
My brother has 20" of snow on a 5/12 roof in Maryland, and rain has been forecasted for Tuesday. Is the greatest danger from snow weight or from ice damming? What would be the best strategy for the next 24 hours? Thank you very much in advance. Jutta Gibb A good snow rake, for sure. |
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On 1/24/2016 2:19 PM, wrote:
My brother has 20" of snow on a 5/12 roof in Maryland, and rain has been forecasted for Tuesday. Is the greatest danger from snow weight or from ice damming? What would be the best strategy for the next 24 hours? Thank you very much in advance. Jutta Gibb Wet snow. Super heavy. Shovel, or roof rake is a good idea. -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 1/24/2016 1:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
If he can clear the two feet nearest the edge it will prevent most of the damming. They make snow rakes to pull the snow off safely. Of course. store may be sold out already. Small sheet of thin plywood/masonite on a pole/2x2 will do in a pinch. Goal is to be able to get a little at a time off as moving a *lot* in that body position is strenuous. Wear gloves (think: blisters/splinters). |
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On 01/24/2016 02:28 PM, Don Y wrote:
Small sheet of thin plywood/masonite on a pole/2x2 will do in a pinch. Goal is to be able to get a little at a time off as moving a *lot* in that body position is strenuous. It goes without saying* but if you're working off a ladder, moving the snow directly above you isn't a good idea. * in the northern states. A Maryland native might be completely clueless about snow. |
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On 1/24/2016 5:56 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 01/24/2016 02:28 PM, Don Y wrote: Small sheet of thin plywood/masonite on a pole/2x2 will do in a pinch. Goal is to be able to get a little at a time off as moving a *lot* in that body position is strenuous. It goes without saying* but if you're working off a ladder, moving the snow directly above you isn't a good idea. * in the northern states. A Maryland native might be completely clueless about snow. It snows in MD. I'm not sure most folks know much of *anything*! A friend wasn't feeling well and drove herself to the hospital last week. She was found by a cop, in her car, on the side of the road -- having suffered a major stroke. I'm sure her kids are happy they won't have to pay that AMBULANCE bill out of her estate... |
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On 1/24/2016 9:00 PM, Don Y wrote:
On 1/24/2016 5:56 PM, rbowman wrote: On 01/24/2016 02:28 PM, Don Y wrote: Small sheet of thin plywood/masonite on a pole/2x2 will do in a pinch. Goal is to be able to get a little at a time off as moving a *lot* in that body position is strenuous. It goes without saying* but if you're working off a ladder, moving the snow directly above you isn't a good idea. * in the northern states. A Maryland native might be completely clueless about snow. It snows in MD. I'm not sure most folks know much of *anything*! A friend wasn't feeling well and drove herself to the hospital last week. She was found by a cop, in her car, on the side of the road -- having suffered a major stroke. I'm sure her kids are happy they won't have to pay that AMBULANCE bill out of her estate... We found out that ambulance service was covered by an insurance policy we paid for by paying a little extra on our electric bill every month for the last umpteen years. We'd forgotten we had that coverage, and when I ended up being taken by ambulance twice to the hospital last year we were told don't worry about the bill - we're covered. -- Maggie |
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On 01/24/2016 10:00 PM, Don Y wrote:
It snows in MD. I'm not sure most folks know much of *anything*! A friend wasn't feeling well and drove herself to the hospital last week. She was found by a cop, in her car, on the side of the road -- having suffered a major stroke. I'm sure her kids are happy they won't have to pay that AMBULANCE bill out of her estate... refined carbohydrates - metabolic syndrome - stroke An ambulance won't prevent any of that. |
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On 1/24/2016 3:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
If he can clear the two feet nearest the edge it will prevent most of the damming. They make snow rakes to pull the snow off safely. Of course. store may be sold out already. May have better luck with snow rakes, buying online and have it shipped in. Of course, with Storm Jonas, the online places may well be sold out, also. -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 1/24/2016 3:39 PM, Micky wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:19:06 -0800 (PST), wrote: What would be the best strategy for the next 24 hours? I havent' done this but maybe hit the roof pretty hard with a baseball bat and get some of the snow to slide off. In Alaska, they use artillery shells launched from a Howitzer. And they drop bags of explosive from a helicopter. Perhaps you can use these techniques at home? - .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 17:34:56 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 1/24/2016 3:39 PM, Micky wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:19:06 -0800 (PST), wrote: What would be the best strategy for the next 24 hours? I havent' done this but maybe hit the roof pretty hard with a baseball bat and get some of the snow to slide off. In Alaska, they use artillery shells launched from a Howitzer. And they drop bags of explosive from a helicopter. Perhaps you can use these techniques at home? Use a drone to drag a snow rake. It's dark here now. I should have suggested before, but he can just tie a 2 or 3 foot stick to a rope or a heavy string and throw it on the roof, then pull it off. That will start the snow coming off. - . Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus . www.lds.org . . |
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Micky wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 17:34:56 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/24/2016 3:39 PM, Micky wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:19:06 -0800 (PST), wrote: What would be the best strategy for the next 24 hours? I havent' done this but maybe hit the roof pretty hard with a baseball bat and get some of the snow to slide off. In Alaska, they use artillery shells launched from a Howitzer. And they drop bags of explosive from a helicopter. Perhaps you can use these techniques at home? Use a drone to drag a snow rake. It's dark here now. I should have suggested before, but he can just tie a 2 or 3 foot stick to a rope or a heavy string and throw it on the roof, then pull it off. That will start the snow coming off. - . Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus . www.lds.org . . Maybe small fire crackers thrown up onto roof to cause mini avalanche? Better than having a caved in roof. |
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On 1/24/2016 7:16 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 17:34:56 -0500, Stormin Mormon In Alaska, they use artillery shells launched from a Howitzer. And they drop bags of explosive from a helicopter. Perhaps you can use these techniques at home? - . Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus . www.lds.org . . Maybe small fire crackers thrown up onto roof to cause mini avalanche? Better than having a caved in roof. I removed the text that Micky rudely center posted. Well, that's worth a try. I doubt that small fire crackers will do much on a shingled roof. Got to be some thing that can be thrown onto the roof, and pulled off with an (already atached) rope. Lets think on this for a while. What throws, and then drags snow? -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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How To Deal With Heavy Snow On Roof In Maryland (center post,that's how)
On 1/24/2016 5:55 PM, Micky wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 17:34:56 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/24/2016 3:39 PM, Micky wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:19:06 -0800 (PST), wrote: What would be the best strategy for the next 24 hours? I havent' done this but maybe hit the roof pretty hard with a baseball bat and get some of the snow to slide off. In Alaska, they use artillery shells launched from a Howitzer. And they drop bags of explosive from a helicopter. Perhaps you can use these techniques at home? Use a drone to drag a snow rake. It's dark here now. I should have suggested before, but he can just tie a 2 or 3 foot stick to a Do you have a delete key? Or a backspace key? It would be kind of you to delete the trailing (my) text, rather than center post. Thank you. rope or a heavy string and throw it on the roof, then pull it off. That will start the snow coming off. - . Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus . www.lds.org . . -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 01/24/2016 03:34 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
In Alaska, they use artillery shells launched from a Howitzer. And they drop bags of explosive from a helicopter. Perhaps you can use these techniques at home? - Avalanche control? How not to do it: http://missoulian.com/news/local/chi...9bb2963f4.html |
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On 1/24/2016 8:02 PM, rbowman wrote:
Avalanche control? How not to do it: http://missoulian.com/news/local/chi...9bb2963f4.html Story from March 2014. But, still interesting. Got to be spooky, playing in the yard and then get burried by avalanche. -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 2:19:15 PM UTC-5, wrote:
My brother has 20" of snow on a 5/12 roof in Maryland, and rain has been forecasted for Tuesday. Is the greatest danger from snow weight or from ice damming? What would be the best strategy for the next 24 hours? Thank you very much in advance. Jutta Gibb Others have suggested a snow rake, but you didn't mention how many stories the has. I use a snow rake on my garage overhang, but there is no way I can reach the roof on the main part of the house. I do not suggest using a snow rake while on a ladder. Hopefully, the roof system is such that the ice damming issue was taken into account when the roof was put on. Proper insulation, ice shield, attic venting, etc. If you are concerned about ice dams, you could fill some stockings or pantyhose with rock salt and place them along the edge of the roof to melt some snow and give the water a place to run off. You could also get some ice melt wires and spread them on the edge of the roof. Ideally, they work best when installed properly *before* it snows, but they should help prevent ice dams a little if you can get them to melt down and lay along the edge of the roof. Good luck! |
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:19:06 -0800 (PST), wrote:
My brother has 20" of snow on a 5/12 roof in Maryland, and rain has been forecasted for Tuesday. Is the greatest danger from snow weight or from ice damming? What would be the best strategy for the next 24 hours? Thank you very much in advance. Jutta Gibb Many years ago I had about 2 - 3 feet of snow-drift on a large section of my roof, that I managed to clear by climbing up and using my boots to break away large chunks and slide them off the edge, it proved easier than shovelling. Now I own a snow rake. The 3 6 foot sections plus my height allows me to get to my second story edges. The weight and ice-dam situations are both a worry. Good luck. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 2:19:15 PM UTC-5, wrote:
My brother has 20" of snow on a 5/12 roof in Maryland, and rain has been forecasted for Tuesday. Is the greatest danger from snow weight or from ice damming? What would be the best strategy for the next 24 hours? Thank you very much in advance. Jutta Gibb This is really cool - no pun intended. Use a length of string or wire. http://youtu.be/gEnJJeNHTLs |
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On 1/25/2016 12:59 PM, Frank wrote:
On 1/24/2016 2:19 PM, wrote: My brother has 20" of snow on a 5/12 roof in Maryland, and rain has been forecasted for Tuesday. Is the greatest danger from snow weight or from ice damming? What would be the best strategy for the next 24 hours? Thank you very much in advance. Jutta Gibb Off hand, I'm thinking that this is about 350 lb of snow. What???! Did you slip a decimal, or so?? I've been wondering about my deck in the same situation and it would amount to several people which the deck could easily handle. If he can safely walk around on the roof, it should be safe but if not he should probably push off what he can. You might check my calculations which I just did in my head considering an inch of water is equivalent to a foot of snow. An inch of rain is about 10 inches of snow. So, he's got about 2 inches of water sitting on his roof -- or, 1/6 cubic foot per square foot. A cubic foot of water is "about" 8 gallons. A gallon is "about" 8 pounds (pint ~= pound). So, cubic foot is "about" 64 pounds. He's got 1/6 of that -- about 10 pounds per square foot. But, that's with *0* pitch. Given that he's got a 5/12 slope (5" rise over 12" run), that's ~22 degrees. So, there's only ~9 pounds of DOWNWARD force on the roof (the rest is converted to a LATERAL force pushing outward against the supporting wall). |
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On 1/25/2016 3:25 PM, Don Y wrote:
On 1/25/2016 12:59 PM, Frank wrote: On 1/24/2016 2:19 PM, wrote: My brother has 20" of snow on a 5/12 roof in Maryland, and rain has been forecasted for Tuesday. Is the greatest danger from snow weight or from ice damming? What would be the best strategy for the next 24 hours? Thank you very much in advance. Jutta Gibb Off hand, I'm thinking that this is about 350 lb of snow. What???! Did you slip a decimal, or so?? I've been wondering about my deck in the same situation and it would amount to several people which the deck could easily handle. If he can safely walk around on the roof, it should be safe but if not he should probably push off what he can. You might check my calculations which I just did in my head considering an inch of water is equivalent to a foot of snow. An inch of rain is about 10 inches of snow. So, he's got about 2 inches of water sitting on his roof -- or, 1/6 cubic foot per square foot. A cubic foot of water is "about" 8 gallons. A gallon is "about" 8 pounds (pint ~= pound). So, cubic foot is "about" 64 pounds. He's got 1/6 of that -- about 10 pounds per square foot. But, that's with *0* pitch. Given that he's got a 5/12 slope (5" rise over 12" run), that's ~22 degrees. So, there's only ~9 pounds of DOWNWARD force on the roof (the rest is converted to a LATERAL force pushing outward against the supporting wall). Thanks. Did not realize that 5/12 meant slope and that it was not a flat roof. Have read various densities for snow and his could be heavier. Our snow was fortunately light and easy for my snow thrower. My calc. would be ~6 lb/ft2 so we are not far off. Sometimes my head does slip a decimal or more |
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On 1/25/2016 5:49 PM, Frank wrote:
On 1/25/2016 3:25 PM, Don Y wrote: On 1/25/2016 12:59 PM, Frank wrote: On 1/24/2016 2:19 PM, wrote: My brother has 20" of snow on a 5/12 roof in Maryland, and rain has been forecasted for Tuesday. Is the greatest danger from snow weight or from ice damming? What would be the best strategy for the next 24 hours? Thank you very much in advance. Jutta Gibb Off hand, I'm thinking that this is about 350 lb of snow. What???! Did you slip a decimal, or so?? I've been wondering about my deck in the same situation and it would amount to several people which the deck could easily handle. If he can safely walk around on the roof, it should be safe but if not he should probably push off what he can. You might check my calculations which I just did in my head considering an inch of water is equivalent to a foot of snow. An inch of rain is about 10 inches of snow. So, he's got about 2 inches of water sitting on his roof -- or, 1/6 cubic foot per square foot. A cubic foot of water is "about" 8 gallons. A gallon is "about" 8 pounds (pint ~= pound). So, cubic foot is "about" 64 pounds. He's got 1/6 of that -- about 10 pounds per square foot. But, that's with *0* pitch. Given that he's got a 5/12 slope (5" rise over 12" run), that's ~22 degrees. So, there's only ~9 pounds of DOWNWARD force on the roof (the rest is converted to a LATERAL force pushing outward against the supporting wall). Thanks. Did not realize that 5/12 meant slope and that it was not a flat roof. Have read various densities for snow and his could be heavier. Our snow was fortunately light and easy for my snow thrower. (pending) Rain complicates the math as it alters the "density" of the snow (for want of a better word). In New England, we often had very "wet" snows -- 6 inches would be too heavy to lift a shovelful (cuz the lower 3 inches would be "slush") My calc. would be ~6 lb/ft2 so we are not far off. Sometimes my head does slip a decimal or more Brain fart. : Or, the explanation my friend offers most often: "keyboard error"! ;-) |
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On 1/24/2016 2:19 PM, wrote:
My brother has 20" of snow on a 5/12 roof in Maryland, and rain has been forecasted for Tuesday. Is the greatest danger from snow weight or from ice damming? What would be the best strategy for the next 24 hours? Thank you very much in advance. Jutta Gibb Ice dam. The weight of the snow is distributed over the entire surface area covered with snow and if the roof is pitched and structurally sound. it should bear the load OK. Remember that sometime rather heavy workman may walk around on a roof without damaging it. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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