I am getting a deposit on my flapper valve over time and it is causing it to leak.

If I clean it the leak stops.

It is a dark reddish color.

I think it is an iron deposit. And there is also some sand deposits also.

Any way to slow it down or clean it more easily ?

Thanks,
Andy

On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:43:50 -0800 (PST), Andy
wrote:

I am getting a deposit on my flapper valve over time and it is causing it to leak.

If I clean it the leak stops.

It is a dark reddish color.

I think it is an iron deposit. And there is also some sand deposits also.

Any way to slow it down or clean it more easily ?

Thanks,
Andy

Dampen a rag in dilute of bleach water. Wipe the flapper and the
flapper seat clean. Should last a good long while to stop the leak and
make a seal.

I noticed that over time most tank toilet flapper valves
accumulate a layer of a very fine black substance on the
side facing down(toward the bowl mating). Once a year
I flush the tank to empty it, while the other hand holds up
the flap. I then quickly grab a rag and wipe the black
film off the flapper and the mating surface(before the tank
fills appreciably) and I'm good for another 365 days.


Question: What IS the black substance?

If the flapper or seat is some how "cut"
(a fine slice), will that cause a leak and
the half-hour to hourly ghost-fill you hear
round the clock from the bathroom?

On Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 9:54:38 PM UTC-6, wrote:
I noticed that over time most tank toilet flapper valves
accumulate a layer of a very fine black substance on the
side facing down(toward the bowl mating). Once a year
I flush the tank to empty it, while the other hand holds up
the flap. I then quickly grab a rag and wipe the black
film off the flapper and the mating surface(before the tank
fills appreciably) and I'm good for another 365 days.


Question: What IS the black substance?

After changing a large number of these (a facility with 56 flush toilets) my thoughts would be the water (and its chemical composition) are breaking-down the material in the flapper. The red Korky last longer than the black types.

On 1/2/2016 9:43 PM, Andy wrote:
I am getting a deposit on my flapper valve over time and it is causing it to leak.

If I clean it the leak stops.

It is a dark reddish color.

I think it is an iron deposit. And there is also some sand deposits also.

Any way to slow it down or clean it more easily ?

Thanks,
Andy


Whole house water filter or possibly a water softener would get rid of
some solids. Fine rust can wear faucet washers quickly. When I moved
into this house I'd change the Delta seals every six month and after
adding a sediment filter they went for 20 years.

Villain:

So the black substance is the flapper itself?

Good to know, thanks!

-DJ Korky K-Man!

On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 20:09:30 -0800 (PST), bob_villain
wrote:


Question: What IS the black substance?

After changing a large number of these (a facility with 56 flush
toilets) my thoughts would be the water (and its chemical compo
sition) are breaking-down the material in the flapper. The red K
orky last longer than the black types.

It's likely mildew, but that can also cause the flapper material to
breakdown. Over time the rubber or plastic breaks down from aging
anyhow. Pouring some bleach in the tank and letting it sit overnight
might help remove the mildew.

On 1/2/2016 9:43 PM, Andy wrote:
I am getting a deposit on my flapper valve over time and it is causing it to leak.

If I clean it the leak stops.

It is a dark reddish color.

I think it is an iron deposit. And there is also some sand deposits also.

Any way to slow it down or clean it more easily ?

Thanks,
Andy


I have a well and a whole house sediment filter which picks up iron and
grit. Some things deposit over time, so it is not a complete cure.
You could put one in yourself and I only need to change filter every 6
months for a few dollars.

Frank:

You mean a few HUNDRED dollars.
We have an e-Spring water filter
under our kitchen sink, and
replacemenf filters currently go for
$450 a pop.

On 1/3/2016 9:42 AM, wrote:
Frank:

You mean a few HUNDRED dollars.
We have an e-Spring water filter
under our kitchen sink, and
replacemenf filters currently go for
$450 a pop.


What makes it better than the $10 carbon filters I use? I use maybe 2
or 3 a year.

I see it is an Amway product. My water would have to be really bad
before i spend $1100 for the setup and $450 a year instead of $30.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/3/2016 9:42 AM, wrote:
Frank:

You mean a few HUNDRED dollars.
We have an e-Spring water filter
under our kitchen sink, and
replacemenf filters currently go for
$450 a pop.


What makes it better than the $10 carbon filters I use? I use maybe 2
or 3 a year.

I see it is an Amway product. My water would have to be really bad
before i spend $1100 for the setup and $450 a year instead of $30.

Of course some water treatment system can cost 50K grand like my
friend's well water coming from 250 feet down. What is the 450.00 a pop
filter made of? Does it have gold lining or some thing? Some one needs
to have their head examined.

On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 8:00:19 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 20:09:30 -0800 (PST), bob_villain
wrote:


Question: What IS the black substance?

After changing a large number of these (a facility with 56 flush
toilets) my thoughts would be the water (and its chemical compo
sition) are breaking-down the material in the flapper. The red K
orky last longer than the black types.

It's likely mildew, but that can also cause the flapper material to
breakdown. Over time the rubber or plastic breaks down from aging
anyhow. Pouring some bleach in the tank and letting it sit overnight
might help remove the mildew.

From an aquarium site, it may be caused by cyanobacteria, blue-green algae, or black slime.

On 1/2/2016 6:43 PM, Andy wrote:
I am getting a deposit on my flapper valve over time and it is causing it to leak.

If I clean it the leak stops.

It is a dark reddish color.

I think it is an iron deposit. And there is also some sand deposits also.

Any way to slow it down or clean it more easily ?

Thanks,
Andy


JUST REPLACE IT, YOU CHEAP *******!

On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 11:54:56 AM UTC-5, bob_villain wrote:
On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 8:00:19 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 20:09:30 -0800 (PST), bob_villain
wrote:


Question: What IS the black substance?

After changing a large number of these (a facility with 56 flush
toilets) my thoughts would be the water (and its chemical compo
sition) are breaking-down the material in the flapper. The red K
orky last longer than the black types.

It's likely mildew, but that can also cause the flapper material to
breakdown. Over time the rubber or plastic breaks down from aging
anyhow. Pouring some bleach in the tank and letting it sit overnight
might help remove the mildew.

From an aquarium site, it may be caused by cyanobacteria, blue-green algae, or black slime.

That's why I stopped raising exotic fish in my toilet tank.

That, and the blood curdling screams every time I flushed. Wimps.

On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 08:54:51 -0800 (PST), bob_villain
wrote:

On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 8:00:19 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 20:09:30 -0800 (PST), bob_villain
wrote:


Question: What IS the black substance?

After changing a large number of these (a facility with 56 flush
toilets) my thoughts would be the water (and its chemical compo
sition) are breaking-down the material in the flapper. The red K
orky last longer than the black types.

It's likely mildew, but that can also cause the flapper material to
breakdown. Over time the rubber or plastic breaks down from aging
anyhow. Pouring some bleach in the tank and letting it sit overnight
might help remove the mildew.

From an aquarium site, it may be caused by cyanobacteria, blue-green algae, or black slime.

Thats likely what it is, which probably falls into the mildew category,
or would that be a mold?????

Either way, bleach will likely kill it and stop the problem for awhile.

It's just like livestock watering tanks always get a green slimy coating
in the bottom. In Summer heat it's worse, but even in winter that stuff
grows. I can scrub it out and it comes back after a week or two. But if
I bleach the tank, it takes longer to come back. But the problem with
bleaching is that no matter how hard I scrub and how many times I rinse
the tank, that bleach odor seems to remain and the animals are hesitant
to drink.... (I have found a solution though.... Give the animals
another temporary tank, and let the sun completely dry the tank I
bleached.) That works fine in summer, but not so well in cold weather.

DerbyDad03 posted for all of us...



On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 11:54:56 AM UTC-5, bob_villain wrote:
On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 8:00:19 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 20:09:30 -0800 (PST), bob_villain
wrote:


Question: What IS the black substance?

After changing a large number of these (a facility with 56 flush
toilets) my thoughts would be the water (and its chemical compo
sition) are breaking-down the material in the flapper. The red K
orky last longer than the black types.

It's likely mildew, but that can also cause the flapper material to
breakdown. Over time the rubber or plastic breaks down from aging
anyhow. Pouring some bleach in the tank and letting it sit overnight
might help remove the mildew.

From an aquarium site, it may be caused by cyanobacteria, blue-green algae, or black slime.

That's why I stopped raising exotic fish in my toilet tank.

That, and the blood curdling screams every time I flushed. Wimps.

The Piranha were the worst.

--
Tekkie

some sand deposits will save the trump