What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

On 12/30/2015 3:01 PM, Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

Generally, I pop them out and get new
replacements. Did you mean AA or AAA?

Now days, I try and buy only alkalines,
or NiMH. Won't buy carbons or nicads
these days.

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After serious thinking Stormin Mormon wrote :
On 12/30/2015 3:01 PM, Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

Generally, I pop them out and get new
replacements. Did you mean AA or AAA?

Now days, I try and buy only alkalines,
or NiMH. Won't buy carbons or nicads
these days.

I mean car a battery. I have a cheap charger, but that thing seems to
not work very well. I was checking battery boosters and chargers and
see that the tech has improved drastically from a large wheeled box to
a small lithium box you can carry around in the glove box.

On 12/30/2015 5:26 PM, Eagle wrote:
After serious thinking Stormin Mormon wrote :
On 12/30/2015 3:01 PM, Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?


I mean car a battery. I have a cheap charger, but that thing seems to
not work very well. I was checking battery boosters and chargers and see
that the tech has improved drastically from a large wheeled box to a
small lithium box you can carry around in the glove box.

I've found in general there are three kinds of
booster.

One, I'd call a charger. Plugs into extension
cord, and changes 110 VAC to 12 VDC. Those
range from float chargers to wheeled charger
and booster.

Second, commonly called jumper cables. These
use a running vehicle to provide battery power
to a vehicle with low or dead battery.

Third is what I personally call a booster. Has
a battery of its own. Clips to the car battery.
The internal battery needs to be charged between
uses (and on occasion as they go dead from the
passage of time).

That said, I've tried three battery boosters. One
from Harbor Freight didn't work, and got returned.
One from BJ's Wholesale Club had a battery that
went dead, and I was able to buy another battery.
Years later, a third battery.

The more expensive (About $100) from Napa booster
pack is on its first battery, and should still work
fine.

As to the lithium cell boosters, I've never used one,
and can't comment on them.


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On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:57:28 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 12/30/2015 5:26 PM, Eagle wrote:
After serious thinking Stormin Mormon wrote :
On 12/30/2015 3:01 PM, Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?


I mean car a battery. I have a cheap charger, but that thing seems to
not work very well. I was checking battery boosters and chargers and see
that the tech has improved drastically from a large wheeled box to a
small lithium box you can carry around in the glove box.

I've found in general there are three kinds of
booster.

One, I'd call a charger. Plugs into extension
cord, and changes 110 VAC to 12 VDC. Those
range from float chargers to wheeled charger
and booster.

Second, commonly called jumper cables. These
use a running vehicle to provide battery power
to a vehicle with low or dead battery.

Third is what I personally call a booster. Has
a battery of its own. Clips to the car battery.
The internal battery needs to be charged between
uses (and on occasion as they go dead from the
passage of time).

That said, I've tried three battery boosters. One
from Harbor Freight didn't work, and got returned.
One from BJ's Wholesale Club had a battery that
went dead, and I was able to buy another battery.
Years later, a third battery.

The more expensive (About $100) from Napa booster
pack is on its first battery, and should still work
fine.

As to the lithium cell boosters, I've never used one,
and can't comment on them.

Well, guys, here is what Pat Goss and George Kurkowski have to say on
this topic...

http://www.motorweek.org/features/go...y-jump-starter

On 12/30/2015 7:40 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:57:28 -0500, Stormin Mormon

As to the lithium cell boosters, I've never used one,
and can't comment on them.

Well, guys, here is what Pat Goss and George Kurkowski have to say on
this topic...

http://www.motorweek.org/features/go...y-jump-starter


Thank you. Those guys seemed to be pleased. I
noticed they didn't jump a real car as part
of their description. But, such is brief
display.

I'm OK with the old booster pack for now. But
when I'm in auto parts stores, I will be sure
to view the products, and check prices.

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On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:40:08 -0600, Gordon Shumway
wrote:

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:57:28 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 12/30/2015 5:26 PM, Eagle wrote:
After serious thinking Stormin Mormon wrote :
On 12/30/2015 3:01 PM, Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?


I mean car a battery. I have a cheap charger, but that thing seems to
not work very well. I was checking battery boosters and chargers and see
that the tech has improved drastically from a large wheeled box to a
small lithium box you can carry around in the glove box.

I've found in general there are three kinds of
booster.

One, I'd call a charger. Plugs into extension
cord, and changes 110 VAC to 12 VDC. Those
range from float chargers to wheeled charger
and booster.

Second, commonly called jumper cables. These
use a running vehicle to provide battery power
to a vehicle with low or dead battery.

Third is what I personally call a booster. Has
a battery of its own. Clips to the car battery.
The internal battery needs to be charged between
uses (and on occasion as they go dead from the
passage of time).

That said, I've tried three battery boosters. One
from Harbor Freight didn't work, and got returned.
One from BJ's Wholesale Club had a battery that
went dead, and I was able to buy another battery.
Years later, a third battery.

The more expensive (About $100) from Napa booster
pack is on its first battery, and should still work
fine.

As to the lithium cell boosters, I've never used one,
and can't comment on them.

Well, guys, here is what Pat Goss and George Kurkowski have to say on
this topic...

http://www.motorweek.org/features/go...y-jump-starter

Pat Goss used to have a great show live on WRC, DC, probably on
Sundays, but he's wrong when he says battery cables are obsolete and
very dangerous.

I carry them and a girl asked me for a jump just two weeks ago.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:40:08 -0600, Gordon Shumway
wrote:


Well, guys, here is what Pat Goss and George Kurkowski have to say on
this topic...

http://www.motorweek.org/features/go...y-jump-starter

And they make or made battery cables with a warning if they were
connected backwards. In 50 years, and a couple hundred jumps, I only
did that once and didn't do any damage.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 14:26:10 -0800, "Eagle"
wrote:

After serious thinking Stormin Mormon wrote :
On 12/30/2015 3:01 PM, Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

Generally, I pop them out and get new
replacements. Did you mean AA or AAA?

Now days, I try and buy only alkalines,
or NiMH. Won't buy carbons or nicads
these days.

I mean car a battery. I have a cheap charger, but that thing seems to
not work very well. I was checking battery boosters and chargers and
see that the tech has improved drastically from a large wheeled box to
a small lithium box you can carry around in the glove box.

Here is what Pat Goss and George Kurkowski have to say on this
topic...

http://www.motorweek.org/features/go...y-jump-starter

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 19:10:26 -0600, Gordon Shumway
wrote:

Here is what Pat Goss and George Kurkowski have to say on this
topic...

http://www.motorweek.org/features/go...y-jump-starter

The black unit he used is a DieHard.

http://www.diehard.com/products/chargers-and-portable-power#filter-lithium-ion

"TSA-friendly design for inflight charging"

On 12/30/2015 1:01 PM, Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

"Dead" (as in unable to accept a charge)? Or, just "flat"
(needing a charge)?

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 12:01:38 -0800, "Eagle"
wrote:

What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

Another brand ...

On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 3:01:47 PM UTC-5, Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

http://www.cheekymonkeysmorzine.com/...ter%20seat.jpg

On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 3:24:35 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 3:01:47 PM UTC-5, Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

http://www.cheekymonkeysmorzine.com/...ter%20seat.jpg

That's about as good as anything when he doesn't even say what
kind of battery it is.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 12:34:58 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 3:24:35 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 3:01:47 PM UTC-5, Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

http://www.cheekymonkeysmorzine.com/...ter%20seat.jpg

That's about as good as anything when he doesn't even say what
kind of battery it is.


Put some salt on it. I heard about a guy who put salt on a battery and
he was charged in seconds. He was charged with SALT and BATTERY !!!

* Now, that's a serious charge!

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:41:59 -0600, wrote:

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 12:34:58 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 3:24:35 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 3:01:47 PM UTC-5, Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

http://www.cheekymonkeysmorzine.com/...ter%20seat.jpg

That's about as good as anything when he doesn't even say what
kind of battery it is.


Put some salt on it. I heard about a guy who put salt on a battery and
he was charged in seconds. He was charged with SALT and BATTERY !!!

* Now, that's a serious charge!

GROAN!

On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 7:21:30 PM UTC-6, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:41:59 -0600, wrote:

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 12:34:58 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 3:24:35 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 3:01:47 PM UTC-5, Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

http://www.cheekymonkeysmorzine.com/...ter%20seat.jpg

That's about as good as anything when he doesn't even say what
kind of battery it is.


Put some salt on it. I heard about a guy who put salt on a battery and
he was charged in seconds. He was charged with SALT and BATTERY !!!

* Now, that's a serious charge!

GROAN!

I know, it can be painful sometimes. (”›Ã²__ó)”›ï¸µ /(.O. \)

[8~{} Uncle Punny Monster

brought next idea :
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 12:34:58 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 3:24:35 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 3:01:47 PM UTC-5, Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

http://www.cheekymonkeysmorzine.com/...ter%20seat.jpg

That's about as good as anything when he doesn't even say what
kind of battery it is.


Put some salt on it. I heard about a guy who put salt on a battery and
he was charged in seconds. He was charged with SALT and BATTERY !!!

* Now, that's a serious charge!

GROAN

On 12/30/2015 2:01 PM, Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

Depends on the battery, dude.

"Eagle" wrote in message
...
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?


If the battery booster is dead, I recommend you use a battery booster
booster.

On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 2:44:34 PM UTC-6, taxed and spent wrote:
"Eagle" wrote in message
...
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

If the battery booster is dead, I recommend you use a battery booster
booster.

Cute, you beat me to it dammit! ヽ(ヅ)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Cute Monster

Uncle Monster wrote:
On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 2:44:34 PM UTC-6, taxed and spent wrote:
"Eagle" wrote in message
...
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

If the battery booster is dead, I recommend you use a battery booster
booster.

Cute, you beat me to it dammit! ヽ(ヅ)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Cute Monster

Dumb question needs dumb answer. Buy another one.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 12:44:30 -0800, "taxed and spent"
wrote:

What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?


If the battery booster is dead, I recommend you use a battery booster
booster.


If the booster booster is weak, use a booster booster with higher
Amps. Boost it up a notch.

Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

I just keep a good set of LONG jumpers in the car. If I have a problem, I hook
them up to my battery and look at passing cars with my thumb out hitchhiker
style. Of course, you can probably buy a new battery cheaper than one of those
gadgets.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 21:58:36 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

I just keep a good set of LONG jumpers in the car. If I have a problem, I hook
them up to my battery and look at passing cars with my thumb out hitchhiker
style. Of course, you can probably buy a new battery cheaper than one of those
gadgets.

And as cheap as a :good: set of long jumpers.
A 25 foot set of 1/0 cable is $250 just for the cable at $5 per foot,
and then you need good ends too.
A good set of Goodall 500 amp clams is about $75, so $325 for a set of
500 amp 25 foot cables.

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On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 21:58:36 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

I just keep a good set of LONG jumpers in the car. If I have a problem, I
hook them up to my battery and look at passing cars with my thumb out
hitchhiker style. Of course, you can probably buy a new battery cheaper
than one of those gadgets.

And as cheap as a :good: set of long jumpers.
A 25 foot set of 1/0 cable is $250 just for the cable at $5 per foot,
and then you need good ends too.
A good set of Goodall 500 amp clams is about $75, so $325 for a set of
500 amp 25 foot cables.

I never pay more than $10.00 for jumper cables.

On Thursday, December 31, 2015 at 5:07:43 PM UTC-5, Eagle wrote:
used his keyboard to write :
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 21:58:36 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

I just keep a good set of LONG jumpers in the car. If I have a problem, I
hook them up to my battery and look at passing cars with my thumb out
hitchhiker style. Of course, you can probably buy a new battery cheaper
than one of those gadgets.

And as cheap as a :good: set of long jumpers.
A 25 foot set of 1/0 cable is $250 just for the cable at $5 per foot,
and then you need good ends too.
A good set of Goodall 500 amp clams is about $75, so $325 for a set of
500 amp 25 foot cables.

I never pay more than $10.00 for jumper cables.

I pay a lot more than that for AAA to bring their jumper cables to me. ;-)

DerbyDad03 submitted this idea :
On Thursday, December 31, 2015 at 5:07:43 PM UTC-5, Eagle wrote:
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 21:58:36 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

I just keep a good set of LONG jumpers in the car. If I have a problem, I
hook them up to my battery and look at passing cars with my thumb out
hitchhiker style. Of course, you can probably buy a new battery cheaper
than one of those gadgets.

And as cheap as a :good: set of long jumpers.
A 25 foot set of 1/0 cable is $250 just for the cable at $5 per foot,
and then you need good ends too.
A good set of Goodall 500 amp clams is about $75, so $325 for a set of
500 amp 25 foot cables.

I never pay more than $10.00 for jumper cables.

I pay a lot more than that for AAA to bring their jumper cables to me. ;-)

Really? State Farm comes out to tow Me or jump start Me for nothing.

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 14:07:40 -0800, "Eagle"
wrote:

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On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 21:58:36 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

I just keep a good set of LONG jumpers in the car. If I have a problem, I
hook them up to my battery and look at passing cars with my thumb out
hitchhiker style. Of course, you can probably buy a new battery cheaper
than one of those gadgets.

And as cheap as a :good: set of long jumpers.
A 25 foot set of 1/0 cable is $250 just for the cable at $5 per foot,
and then you need good ends too.
A good set of Goodall 500 amp clams is about $75, so $325 for a set of
500 amp 25 foot cables.

I never pay more than $10.00 for jumper cables.
But they are not "good 25 foot" cables. Likely neither good nor 25
ft

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 19:41:12 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 14:07:40 -0800, "Eagle"
wrote:

used his keyboard to write :
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 21:58:36 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

I just keep a good set of LONG jumpers in the car. If I have a problem, I
hook them up to my battery and look at passing cars with my thumb out
hitchhiker style. Of course, you can probably buy a new battery cheaper
than one of those gadgets.

And as cheap as a :good: set of long jumpers.
A 25 foot set of 1/0 cable is $250 just for the cable at $5 per foot,
and then you need good ends too.
A good set of Goodall 500 amp clams is about $75, so $325 for a set of
500 amp 25 foot cables.

I never pay more than $10.00 for jumper cables.
But they are not "good 25 foot" cables. Likely neither good nor 25
ft

I always used thick cables to start carbureted cars - back in the day.
But letting thinner cables charge the dead battery for 5-10 minutes
works fine with fuel injection, assuming the car doesn't have other
problems.
The mistake many people make is not having a good connection on the
side mount battery terminals.
You have to make sure the alternator on the charging car has a load on
it. Until you hear that you're not connected. Not always easy to
hear if there's a lot of traffic around.
My cables are hanging in the garage, a 25' foot set of heavy and a 20'
set of medium. Haven't used them at least 10 years.

wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 14:07:40 -0800, "Eagle"
wrote:

used his keyboard to write :
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 21:58:36 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

I just keep a good set of LONG jumpers in the car. If I have a
problem, I hook them up to my battery and look at passing cars
with my thumb out hitchhiker style. Of course, you can probably
buy a new battery cheaper than one of those gadgets.

And as cheap as a :good: set of long jumpers.
A 25 foot set of 1/0 cable is $250 just for the cable at $5 per
foot, and then you need good ends too.
A good set of Goodall 500 amp clams is about $75, so $325 for a set
of 500 amp 25 foot cables.

I never pay more than $10.00 for jumper cables.
But they are not "good 25 foot" cables. Likely neither good nor 25
ft

Mine are probably 12 footers, but good heavy duty ones. I bought them when I had
a surburban with a 350. Cheap jumpers had a hard time starting it. These didn't.
12 foot is all I'vew ever need. 25 footers? Seems like a waste. They'd have to
be so heavy to do the job, and would be a pain to store.

has brought this to us :
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 14:07:40 -0800, "Eagle"
wrote:

used his keyboard to write :
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 21:58:36 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

Eagle wrote:
What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

I just keep a good set of LONG jumpers in the car. If I have a problem, I
hook them up to my battery and look at passing cars with my thumb out
hitchhiker style. Of course, you can probably buy a new battery cheaper
than one of those gadgets.

And as cheap as a :good: set of long jumpers.
A 25 foot set of 1/0 cable is $250 just for the cable at $5 per foot,
and then you need good ends too.
A good set of Goodall 500 amp clams is about $75, so $325 for a set of
500 amp 25 foot cables.

I never pay more than $10.00 for jumper cables.
But they are not "good 25 foot" cables. Likely neither good nor 25
ft

The set I have in the garage is at least 6 foot long, and I've used
them several times to jump My '68 Chevy C10.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 12:01:38 -0800, "Eagle"
wrote:

What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

If batteries going dead, because of lights left on, or drain from
alarms, or playing the radio, is an ongoing probelm, I'd recommend
Priority Start. It's 80 dollars or so, but I expect I'll never have
a problem again. I'll take out of each old car and put it into each
new car.

http://www.prioritystart.com/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0030A10V0/...l_8qqp55cqxk_b

Also comes in 24 volt and in marine style.

It disconnects the battery before the battery is so weak it can't
start the car. No need to open the hood to reconnect, just put your
foot on the brake.

I've had mine for 3 years.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 14:01:38 -0600, Eagle wrote:

What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

A good heavy set of booster cables in the trunk. The modern ones
are pretty small. I've made some from welding cable and heavy duty clamps.
Those are for work use.
I bought one of these from Amazon.
http://preview.alturl.com/3fj27
I haven't tried it yet and can't remember why I chose it
over the others.


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On 12/31/2015 5:04 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 14:01:38 -0600, Eagle wrote:

What do you recomend for a dead batery booster?

A good heavy set of booster cables in the trunk. The modern ones
are pretty small. I've made some from welding cable and heavy duty clamps.
Those are for work use.

+1

I used welding cable (fine strands), large clamps (the sort that have jaws
that pivot to expose the "clip on prongs" for batteries with those "top
mount" cables) and then ran the mess through some 1" metal braid to
keep the two conductors side-by-side for their entire length. Heavy
but the added length and quality has lasted me some 40 years...

I bought one of these from Amazon.
http://preview.alturl.com/3fj27
I haven't tried it yet and can't remember why I chose it
over the others.

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 06:04:59 -0600, "Dean Hoffman"
wrote:

I bought one of these from Amazon.
http://preview.alturl.com/3fj27
I haven't tried it yet and can't remember why I chose it
over the others.

Its a good unit. Bought a "used once" ES2500 (300 Amp) from wife's
friend. Initial charge is 30 hours, but instructions say to leave it
plugged in all the time when not in use.

Used it around 20 times and works great.

Clore Automotive: http://www.cloreautomotive.com/

Oren was thinking very hard :
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 06:04:59 -0600, "Dean Hoffman"
wrote:

I bought one of these from Amazon.
http://preview.alturl.com/3fj27
I haven't tried it yet and can't remember why I chose it
over the others.

Its a good unit. Bought a "used once" ES2500 (300 Amp) from wife's
friend. Initial charge is 30 hours, but instructions say to leave it
plugged in all the time when not in use.

Used it around 20 times and works great.

Clore Automotive: http://www.cloreautomotive.com/

Interesting web site. Thanks Oren.

On 12/31/2015 2:36 PM, Oren wrote:
Its a good unit. Bought a "used once" ES2500 (300 Amp) from wife's
friend. Initial charge is 30 hours, but instructions say to leave it
plugged in all the time when not in use.

Used it around 20 times and works great.

Clore Automotive: http://www.cloreautomotive.com/


My 2500 came from Napa Auto Parts. It cost
about $100, which is cheaper than the $75
Winchester / sport pac which is on its third
battery (at $65 per battery).

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