It's a thought. I like projects and I like wood. I'm not artistic
enough to make furniture with curves and furniture with only straight
lines can be unappealing. And I have enough furniture, and no
children that I can make feel guilty if they don't want to inherit and
keep the home-crafted furniture I made, so it would just go to
strangers.

In addition, they charge a fortune for commercially-made coffins. So
it's something I could use. And I could use it for storage until I
really need it. But before I thought too much about this, I realized
I still had no room for it, not even in the basement, and it would be
too big for convenient storage of my junk, until I die.

But some of you guys might enjoy a fancy wordworking project.


Fancy Coffins to Make Yourself (Schiffer Book for Woodworkers)
Paperback
http://www.amazon.com/Fancy-Coffins-.../dp/0764312499


Do It Yourself Coffins for Pets and People: A Schiffer Book for
Woodworkers Who Want to Be Buried in Their Work Paperback
http://www.amazon.com/Yourself-Coffi...HSE2DF G78HZ5

"Micky" wrote in message
...

In addition, they charge a fortune for commercially-made coffins. So
it's something I could use. And I could use it for storage until I
really need it. But before I thought too much about this, I realized
I still had no room for it, not even in the basement, and it would be
too big for convenient storage of my junk, until I die.


I did see a few years back that some were using them as a coffee table in
the living room.

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:53:02 -0500, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:


"Micky" wrote in message
.. .

In addition, they charge a fortune for commercially-made coffins. So
it's something I could use. And I could use it for storage until I
really need it. But before I thought too much about this, I realized
I still had no room for it, not even in the basement, and it would be
too big for convenient storage of my junk, until I die.


I did see a few years back that some were using them as a coffee table in
the living room.


You can buy a coffin and/or Urn at Costco. Don't let funeral homes
sell you a marked up item. Me? Cremate me in a cardboard box and
scatter my ashes off the Sanibel Lighthouse on high tide.

On 12/19/2015 04:38 PM, Micky wrote:
Fancy Coffins to Make Yourself (Schiffer Book for Woodworkers)
Paperback
http://www.amazon.com/Fancy-Coffins-.../dp/0764312499



I think that Amazon's grouping of 'Frequently Bought Together' includes
'Images You Should Not Masturbate To', and that book gets a lot better
reviews says it all.

It also reminded me of Faulkner's 'As I Lay Dying' when Addie sits at
the window and watches her son build her coffin out in the yard.

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:38:24 -0500, Micky
wrote:

It's a thought. I like projects and I like wood. I'm not artistic
enough to make furniture with curves and furniture with only straight
lines can be unappealing. And I have enough furniture, and no
children that I can make feel guilty if they don't want to inherit and
keep the home-crafted furniture I made, so it would just go to
strangers.

In addition, they charge a fortune for commercially-made coffins. So
it's something I could use. And I could use it for storage until I
really need it. But before I thought too much about this, I realized
I still had no room for it, not even in the basement, and it would be
too big for convenient storage of my junk, until I die.

But some of you guys might enjoy a fancy wordworking project.


Fancy Coffins to Make Yourself (Schiffer Book for Woodworkers)
Paperback
http://www.amazon.com/Fancy-Coffins-.../dp/0764312499


Do It Yourself Coffins for Pets and People: A Schiffer Book for
Woodworkers Who Want to Be Buried in Their Work Paperback
http://www.amazon.com/Yourself-Coffi...HSE2DF G78HZ5


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y

I like.....

On 12/19/2015 05:28 PM, Oren wrote:
You can buy a coffin and/or Urn at Costco. Don't let funeral homes
sell you a marked up item. Me? Cremate me in a cardboard box and
scatter my ashes off the Sanibel Lighthouse on high tide.

That was my brother's wishes and the original game plan. Then one of his
sons brought up the environmental impact of dumping ashes off the beach
without the necessary permits and so forth. Plan 2 involved hiring a
boat to go out to sea a ways. I don't recall the details but that fell
through perhaps because assembling all the family members was a
logistical problem. Plan 3 was similar, but involved an airplane. The
pilot who was rumored to be okay with dumping ashes proved to be harder
to find than Waldo.

It's not really my business and I have no intention of asking my sister
in law when I call over the holidays but afaik he's still parked on the
shelf.

Moral: cultivate at least one family member who can get things done and
isn't some sort of environmentalist.

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 19:52:07 -0700, rbowman
wrote:

On 12/19/2015 05:28 PM, Oren wrote:
You can buy a coffin and/or Urn at Costco. Don't let funeral homes
sell you a marked up item. Me? Cremate me in a cardboard box and
scatter my ashes off the Sanibel Lighthouse on high tide.

That was my brother's wishes and the original game plan. Then one of his
sons brought up the environmental impact of dumping ashes off the beach
without the necessary permits and so forth. Plan 2 involved hiring a
boat to go out to sea a ways. I don't recall the details but that fell
through perhaps because assembling all the family members was a
logistical problem. Plan 3 was similar, but involved an airplane. The
pilot who was rumored to be okay with dumping ashes proved to be harder
to find than Waldo.

It's not really my business and I have no intention of asking my sister
in law when I call over the holidays but afaik he's still parked on the
shelf.

Moral: cultivate at least one family member who can get things done and
isn't some sort of environmentalist.

Mom, sisters and me put our brother's ashes in the Gulf of Mexico. We
took a gambling boat out of Ft Myers (his desires) after 9/11. The
ship mate at the entrance ask my sister "what is in the bag", "my
brother", she said. Twelve miles out we spread his ashes.

There are federal laws about burial at sea. What mom wants and what I
want will not conform. She will be at the end of the beach and I'll
be around the corner, near the lighthouse on Sanibel Island.

IIUC, sea burials inside the 12 mile limit require a "permit". I'll be
an outlaw

On 12/19/2015 6:28 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:53:02 -0500, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:


"Micky" wrote in message
...

In addition, they charge a fortune for commercially-made coffins. So
it's something I could use. And I could use it for storage until I
really need it. But before I thought too much about this, I realized
I still had no room for it, not even in the basement, and it would be
too big for convenient storage of my junk, until I die.


I did see a few years back that some were using them as a coffee table in
the living room.


You can buy a coffin and/or Urn at Costco. Don't let funeral homes
sell you a marked up item. Me? Cremate me in a cardboard box and
scatter my ashes off the Sanibel Lighthouse on high tide.


My FIL was cremated and had a ceremony in Hawaii where they were allowed
to spread his ashes over the sunken Arizona that was downed when Pearl
Harbor was attacked. He was a crew member of the Arizona, but wasn't on
it the day it was attacked. He'd been discharged a few weeks prior to
the attack, but was still there working in the shipyard when the attack
happened. He was amongst the men who used blow torches to try and save
men who'd been trapped in sinking ships.

My husband said they close the memorial around 5pm and then allow
prearranged ceremonies like that for former crew members of the Arizona.
When they dumped his ashes into the water a black tear rose up from the
ship. They said it was a very touching moment.

--
Maggie

On 12/19/2015 9:10 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 19:52:07 -0700, rbowman
wrote:

On 12/19/2015 05:28 PM, Oren wrote:
You can buy a coffin and/or Urn at Costco. Don't let funeral homes
sell you a marked up item. Me? Cremate me in a cardboard box and
scatter my ashes off the Sanibel Lighthouse on high tide.

That was my brother's wishes and the original game plan. Then one of his
sons brought up the environmental impact of dumping ashes off the beach
without the necessary permits and so forth. Plan 2 involved hiring a
boat to go out to sea a ways. I don't recall the details but that fell
through perhaps because assembling all the family members was a
logistical problem. Plan 3 was similar, but involved an airplane. The
pilot who was rumored to be okay with dumping ashes proved to be harder
to find than Waldo.

It's not really my business and I have no intention of asking my sister
in law when I call over the holidays but afaik he's still parked on the
shelf.

Moral: cultivate at least one family member who can get things done and
isn't some sort of environmentalist.

Mom, sisters and me put our brother's ashes in the Gulf of Mexico. We
took a gambling boat out of Ft Myers (his desires) after 9/11. The
ship mate at the entrance ask my sister "what is in the bag", "my
brother", she said. Twelve miles out we spread his ashes.

There are federal laws about burial at sea. What mom wants and what I
want will not conform. She will be at the end of the beach and I'll
be around the corner, near the lighthouse on Sanibel Island.

IIUC, sea burials inside the 12 mile limit require a "permit". I'll be
an outlaw



I hear someone explaining to the authorities ... "Honest officer! I
tripped and the thing flew out of my hands while I was talking to my
brother! I'm SOOOO upset! What am I going to tell the rest of the
family, now??"

--
Maggie

On Saturday, December 19, 2015 at 6:28:39 PM UTC-6, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:53:02 -0500, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:

"Micky" wrote in message
.. .

In addition, they charge a fortune for commercially-made coffins. So
it's something I could use. And I could use it for storage until I
really need it. But before I thought too much about this, I realized
I still had no room for it, not even in the basement, and it would be
too big for convenient storage of my junk, until I die.

I did see a few years back that some were using them as a coffee table in
the living room.

You can buy a coffin and/or Urn at Costco. Don't let funeral homes
sell you a marked up item. Me? Cremate me in a cardboard box and
scatter my ashes off the Sanibel Lighthouse on high tide.

I'm thinking of donating my body to a medical school. I could still teach young people after I die. ヽ(€¢€¿€¢)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Corpse Monster

Muggles submitted this idea :
On 12/19/2015 6:28 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:53:02 -0500, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:


"Micky" wrote in message
...

In addition, they charge a fortune for commercially-made coffins. So
it's something I could use. And I could use it for storage until I
really need it. But before I thought too much about this, I realized
I still had no room for it, not even in the basement, and it would be
too big for convenient storage of my junk, until I die.


I did see a few years back that some were using them as a coffee table in
the living room.


You can buy a coffin and/or Urn at Costco. Don't let funeral homes
sell you a marked up item. Me? Cremate me in a cardboard box and
scatter my ashes off the Sanibel Lighthouse on high tide.


My FIL was cremated and had a ceremony in Hawaii where they were allowed
to spread his ashes over the sunken Arizona that was downed when Pearl
Harbor was attacked. He was a crew member of the Arizona, but wasn't on
it the day it was attacked. He'd been discharged a few weeks prior to
the attack, but was still there working in the shipyard when the attack
happened. He was amongst the men who used blow torches to try and save
men who'd been trapped in sinking ships.

My husband said they close the memorial around 5pm and then allow
prearranged ceremonies like that for former crew members of the Arizona.
When they dumped his ashes into the water a black tear rose up from the
ship. They said it was a very touching moment.

I worked with a feller who's father died on the Arizona December 7,
1941. His name was Harold Soens, and His Son was also Harold Soens Jr.
His name is on page 40 of the casualty list.
http://ussarizona.org/index.php/feat...harold-mathias

I got some "wood" for you right here in my trousers.
LOL

"Colonel Edmund J. Burke" wrote in message
...

I got some "wood" for you right here in my trousers.
LOL

You crazy-assed crackers.

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 22:42:54 -0600, Muggles
wrote:

My FIL was cremated and had a ceremony in Hawaii where they were allowed
to spread his ashes over the sunken Arizona that was downed when Pearl
Harbor was attacked. He was a crew member of the Arizona, but wasn't on
it the day it was attacked. He'd been discharged a few weeks prior to
the attack, but was still there working in the shipyard when the attack
happened. He was amongst the men who used blow torches to try and save
men who'd been trapped in sinking ships.

My husband said they close the memorial around 5pm and then allow
prearranged ceremonies like that for former crew members of the Arizona.
When they dumped his ashes into the water a black tear rose up from the
ship. They said it was a very touching moment.

Oil has been leaking form the Arizona since it sank -- 74 years. If
you ever get the chance, visit the Arizona memorial and the USS
Missouri (BB-63) Battleship (allows tours). The deck has a medallion
exactly where the Japanese surrendered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b4mVfTZ-XI

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 04:31:55 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster
wrote:

I'm thinking of donating my body to a medical school. I could still teach young people after I die. ?(•?•)?

[8~{} Uncle Corpse Monster

That should have quite a bit of entertainment value :-\

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 22:55:50 -0600, Muggles
wrote:

There are federal laws about burial at sea. What mom wants and what I
want will not conform. She will be at the end of the beach and I'll
be around the corner, near the lighthouse on Sanibel Island.

IIUC, sea burials inside the 12 mile limit require a "permit". I'll be
an outlaw



I hear someone explaining to the authorities ... "Honest officer! I
tripped and the thing flew out of my hands while I was talking to my
brother! I'm SOOOO upset! What am I going to tell the rest of the
family, now??"

"Res gestae"

Essentially statements made in a moment of excitation that can be used
against you in court. "Officer, I didn't mean to run over the kid on
the bicycle." Basically, an admission that you did "run over the
kid". Keep your mouth shut

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Res_gestae#Res_gestae_in_American_hearsay_law

.... I stole the Lindbergh baby

On 12/20/2015 09:43 AM, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:
I got some "wood" for you right here in my trousers.
LOL

I prefer to work with birch, maple, or walnut, no softwoods.

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 08:25:02 -0800, "Eagle"
wrote:

My FIL was cremated and had a ceremony in Hawaii where they were allowed
to spread his ashes over the sunken Arizona that was downed when Pearl
Harbor was attacked. He was a crew member of the Arizona, but wasn't on
it the day it was attacked. He'd been discharged a few weeks prior to
the attack, but was still there working in the shipyard when the attack
happened. He was amongst the men who used blow torches to try and save
men who'd been trapped in sinking ships.

My husband said they close the memorial around 5pm and then allow
prearranged ceremonies like that for former crew members of the Arizona.
When they dumped his ashes into the water a black tear rose up from the
ship. They said it was a very touching moment.

I worked with a feller who's father died on the Arizona December 7,
1941. His name was Harold Soens, and His Son was also Harold Soens Jr.
His name is on page 40 of the casualty list.
http://ussarizona.org/index.php/feat...harold-mathias

The Arizona memorial will have his name engraved on a marble (?) wall
there. A site to see, if you get to visit there.

Oren used his keyboard to write :
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 08:25:02 -0800, "Eagle"
wrote:

My FIL was cremated and had a ceremony in Hawaii where they were allowed
to spread his ashes over the sunken Arizona that was downed when Pearl
Harbor was attacked. He was a crew member of the Arizona, but wasn't on
it the day it was attacked. He'd been discharged a few weeks prior to
the attack, but was still there working in the shipyard when the attack
happened. He was amongst the men who used blow torches to try and save
men who'd been trapped in sinking ships.

My husband said they close the memorial around 5pm and then allow
prearranged ceremonies like that for former crew members of the Arizona.
When they dumped his ashes into the water a black tear rose up from the
ship. They said it was a very touching moment.

I worked with a feller who's father died on the Arizona December 7,
1941. His name was Harold Soens, and His Son was also Harold Soens Jr.
His name is on page 40 of the casualty list.
http://ussarizona.org/index.php/feat...harold-mathias

The Arizona memorial will have his name engraved on a marble (?) wall
there. A site to see, if you get to visit there.

Oren,
I went to the memorial in 1995. The experience was heart wrenching. It
was something I'll never forget.

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 12:39:22 -0800, "Eagle"
wrote:

The Arizona memorial will have his name engraved on a marble (?) wall
there. A site to see, if you get to visit there.

Oren,
I went to the memorial in 1995. The experience was heart wrenching. It
was something I'll never forget.

Yes. The memorial tells us what our parents lived through. Only 9/11
exceeded the similar tragedy.

Oren presented the following explanation :
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 12:39:22 -0800, "Eagle"
wrote:

The Arizona memorial will have his name engraved on a marble (?) wall
there. A site to see, if you get to visit there.

Oren,
I went to the memorial in 1995. The experience was heart wrenching. It
was something I'll never forget.

Yes. The memorial tells us what our parents lived through. Only 9/11
exceeded the similar tragedy.

After 9/11 Bush made the speech about this nation going to war against
terrorism, and that there will be fighting in every corner of the
world, some reported, some not. I thought to myself [and I bet most did
the same] how do you fight a war against a religion with over two
billion members? How do you keep sepparate the jihadists and the
peaceful muslimers?
Give Me a 7.62 weapon and don't let Me hear "allah hu akbar" EVER.

On 12/20/2015 1:34 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 22:55:50 -0600, Muggles
wrote:

There are federal laws about burial at sea. What mom wants and what I
want will not conform. She will be at the end of the beach and I'll
be around the corner, near the lighthouse on Sanibel Island.

IIUC, sea burials inside the 12 mile limit require a "permit". I'll be
an outlaw



I hear someone explaining to the authorities ... "Honest officer! I
tripped and the thing flew out of my hands while I was talking to my
brother! I'm SOOOO upset! What am I going to tell the rest of the
family, now??"

"Res gestae"

Essentially statements made in a moment of excitation that can be used
against you in court. "Officer, I didn't mean to run over the kid on
the bicycle." Basically, an admission that you did "run over the
kid". Keep your mouth shut

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Res_gestae#Res_gestae_in_American_hearsay_law

... I stole the Lindbergh baby


aahhh! I'll remember that! Thanks.

--
Maggie

On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 11:11:42 AM UTC-6, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 04:31:55 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster
wrote:

I'm thinking of donating my body to a medical school. I could still teach young people after I die. ?(€¢?€¢)?

[8~{} Uncle Corpse Monster

That should have quite a bit of entertainment value :-\

Hell, parts of me could wind up in jars of formaldehyde and be around for centuries. \(—¦'Œ£'—¦)/

[8~{} Uncle Specimen Monster

On 12/20/2015 10:25 AM, Eagle wrote:
Muggles submitted this idea :
On 12/19/2015 6:28 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:53:02 -0500, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:


"Micky" wrote in message
...

In addition, they charge a fortune for commercially-made coffins. So
it's something I could use. And I could use it for storage until I
really need it. But before I thought too much about this, I realized
I still had no room for it, not even in the basement, and it would be
too big for convenient storage of my junk, until I die.


I did see a few years back that some were using them as a coffee
table in the living room.


You can buy a coffin and/or Urn at Costco. Don't let funeral homes
sell you a marked up item. Me? Cremate me in a cardboard box and
scatter my ashes off the Sanibel Lighthouse on high tide.


My FIL was cremated and had a ceremony in Hawaii where they were allowed
to spread his ashes over the sunken Arizona that was downed when Pearl
Harbor was attacked. He was a crew member of the Arizona, but wasn't on
it the day it was attacked. He'd been discharged a few weeks prior to
the attack, but was still there working in the shipyard when the attack
happened. He was amongst the men who used blow torches to try and save
men who'd been trapped in sinking ships.

My husband said they close the memorial around 5pm and then allow
prearranged ceremonies like that for former crew members of the Arizona.
When they dumped his ashes into the water a black tear rose up from the
ship. They said it was a very touching moment.

I worked with a feller who's father died on the Arizona December 7,
1941. His name was Harold Soens, and His Son was also Harold Soens Jr.
His name is on page 40 of the casualty list.
http://ussarizona.org/index.php/feat...harold-mathias


My FIL had survivors guilt for a long time I've been told. I can't
imagine...

--
Maggie

On 12/20/2015 10:53 AM, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 22:42:54 -0600, Muggles
wrote:

My FIL was cremated and had a ceremony in Hawaii where they were allowed
to spread his ashes over the sunken Arizona that was downed when Pearl
Harbor was attacked. He was a crew member of the Arizona, but wasn't on
it the day it was attacked. He'd been discharged a few weeks prior to
the attack, but was still there working in the shipyard when the attack
happened. He was amongst the men who used blow torches to try and save
men who'd been trapped in sinking ships.

My husband said they close the memorial around 5pm and then allow
prearranged ceremonies like that for former crew members of the Arizona.
When they dumped his ashes into the water a black tear rose up from the
ship. They said it was a very touching moment.

Oil has been leaking form the Arizona since it sank -- 74 years. If
you ever get the chance, visit the Arizona memorial and the USS
Missouri (BB-63) Battleship (allows tours). The deck has a medallion
exactly where the Japanese surrendered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b4mVfTZ-XI


I didn't get to go to the funeral on the Arizona, but when it was
described to me they mentioned the same thing about oil leaking from it
for that long.

--
Maggie

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:26:52 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 11:11:42 AM UTC-6, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 04:31:55 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster
wrote:

I'm thinking of donating my body to a medical school. I could still teach young people after I die. ?(•?•)?

[8~{} Uncle Corpse Monster

That should have quite a bit of entertainment value :-\

Hell, parts of me could wind up in jars of formaldehyde and be around for centuries. \(?'?'?)/

[8~{} Uncle Specimen Monster

Our local paper just had an article about penis transplants for
wounded veterans. Diagrams and all. You could donate for a good
cause.

On 12/20/2015 03:32 PM, Oren wrote:
Yes. The memorial tells us what our parents lived through. Only 9/11
exceeded the similar tragedy.

Ever see the Moving Wall or the real one?

On 12/20/2015 03:54 PM, Eagle wrote:
After 9/11 Bush made the speech about this nation going to war against
terrorism, and that there will be fighting in every corner of the world,
some reported, some not. I thought to myself [and I bet most did the
same] how do you fight a war against a religion with over two billion
members? How do you keep sepparate the jihadists and the peaceful
muslimers?

Britain never exactly won going up against the IRA. The IRA really
didn't have that many active members and Irish Catholics only blow
themselves up by mistake.

To continue the analogy, Bloody Sunday in 1972 was the best recruiting
tool the Provos ever had. It says a lot that it took the Brits until now
to arrest one of the Paras:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-34775466

That whole 'we'll fight them over there so we don't have to fight them
here' was a pipe dream.

On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 5:57:16 PM UTC-6, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:26:52 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 11:11:42 AM UTC-6, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 04:31:55 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster
wrote:

I'm thinking of donating my body to a medical school. I could still teach young people after I die. ?(€¢?€¢)?

[8~{} Uncle Corpse Monster

That should have quite a bit of entertainment value :-\

Hell, parts of me could wind up in jars of formaldehyde and be around for centuries. \(?'?'?)/

[8~{} Uncle Specimen Monster

Our local paper just had an article about penis transplants for
wounded veterans. Diagrams and all. You could donate for a good
cause.

Who'd want a Vienna sausage? Well, it is weiner length when inflated. \(—¦'Œ£'—¦)/

[8~{} Uncle Sausage Monster

After serious thinking rbowman wrote :
On 12/20/2015 03:54 PM, Eagle wrote:
After 9/11 Bush made the speech about this nation going to war against
terrorism, and that there will be fighting in every corner of the world,
some reported, some not. I thought to myself [and I bet most did the
same] how do you fight a war against a religion with over two billion
members? How do you keep sepparate the jihadists and the peaceful
muslimers?

Britain never exactly won going up against the IRA. The IRA really didn't
have that many active members and Irish Catholics only blow themselves up by
mistake.

To continue the analogy, Bloody Sunday in 1972 was the best recruiting tool
the Provos ever had. It says a lot that it took the Brits until now to arrest
one of the Paras:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-34775466

That whole 'we'll fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here'
was a pipe dream.

Who said that?
The war on the terrorists will go on and change the idea of 'freedom'
irreversably. It's a shame, but that is the price this war will cost
humanity. Islam has been a thorn in the foot ever since the monkey
mooohamerded was born some 1400 years ago.

rbowman used his keyboard to write :
On 12/20/2015 03:32 PM, Oren wrote:
Yes. The memorial tells us what our parents lived through. Only 9/11
exceeded the similar tragedy.

Ever see the Moving Wall or the real one?

Yep, the real one. I have several school chums on the wall. :/

rbowman wrote:
On 12/20/2015 03:32 PM, Oren wrote:
Yes. The memorial tells us what our parents lived through. Only 9/11
exceeded the similar tragedy.

Ever see the Moving Wall or the real one?

They brought the Moving Wall to Memphis a few years ago . A very emotional
experience . We did a mini-Rolling Thunder ride from the local Harley dealer
.. When we got there the lanes into the cemetery were lined with flags and
people saluting us . A much better reception than the one we got when we got
home ... very few dry eyes among those in the crowd ... and the riders .

--
Snag
Tonkin Gulf
Yatch Club

On 12/21/2015 06:00 AM, Eagle wrote:
Who said that?
The war on the terrorists will go on and change the idea of 'freedom'
irreversably. It's a shame, but that is the price this war will cost
humanity. Islam has been a thorn in the foot ever since the monkey
mooohamerded was born some 1400 years ago.

I don't know if Bush II ever uttered the exact phrase and if he did, it
didn't originate with him:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/white...rrorism_05-24/

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 19:11:10 -0700, rbowman
wrote:

On 12/20/2015 03:32 PM, Oren wrote:
Yes. The memorial tells us what our parents lived through. Only 9/11
exceeded the similar tragedy.

Ever see the Moving Wall or the real one?


The real wall at Pearl Harbor.

You could hear a pin drop amongst the visitors.