Bidet (is that the right word)?

I know that these are popular in foreign countries, but not in the U.S.
The way I understand it, when you finish pooping, some clean water
sprays and cleans your butt. I'm guessing there is a lever or button to
make it spray. I have to ask, out of curiousity. Do people still use
toilet paper? If not, I'd think this Bidet would pay for itself on T.P.
savings, and for those who have septic systems, would save on tank
pumping costs.

I'm considering trying to find one of these, assuming it fits in the
same space as a standard toilet, especially if it saves on T.P. Not that
T.P. is a huge expense, but pumping my septic is costly, and more than
once the sewer pipe has frozen on winter due to a wad of T.P. sitting in
the pipe. The pipes were installed properly, but the tank is over 100Ft.
from the house so there is a lot of distance for solids to travel. I've
even gone so far as to toss the used T.P. in a waste basket (with lid)
during the winter to prevent annoying and costly pipe clogs.

I wonder why U.S. people dont want clean butts

On 2015-10-02, wrote:

I wonder why U.S. people dont want clean butts

Water centric appliances like bidets will become less popular as water
becomes scarcer. Digester toilets are already available and likely to
become legal where they are now illegal and even more popular as water
becomes less plentiful.

nb

On 10/2/2015 7:31 AM, wrote:
Bidet (is that the right word)?

I know that these are popular in foreign countries, but not in the U.S.
The way I understand it, when you finish pooping, some clean water
sprays and cleans your butt. I'm guessing there is a lever or button to
make it spray. I have to ask, out of curiousity. Do people still use
toilet paper? If not, I'd think this Bidet would pay for itself on T.P.
savings, and for those who have septic systems, would save on tank
pumping costs.

I'm considering trying to find one of these, assuming it fits in the
same space as a standard toilet, especially if it saves on T.P. Not that
T.P. is a huge expense, but pumping my septic is costly, and more than
once the sewer pipe has frozen on winter due to a wad of T.P. sitting in
the pipe. The pipes were installed properly, but the tank is over 100Ft.
from the house so there is a lot of distance for solids to travel. I've
even gone so far as to toss the used T.P. in a waste basket (with lid)
during the winter to prevent annoying and costly pipe clogs.

I wonder why U.S. people dont want clean butts

You can buy toilet seats with build in bidets, you don't need a new
toilet. Costco often has them, in store, (from Korea) for around
$150-200. Online see
http://www.costco.com/CatalogSearch?storeId=10301&catalogId=10701&langId =-1&refine=&keyword=bidet

There is a remote control to select the cycle based on the gender of the
user, and the water pressure you want. Just be careful. I once pressed
the wrong button (female front) and got my balls washed.

On Friday, October 2, 2015 at 10:33:43 AM UTC-4, wrote:
Bidet (is that the right word)?

I know that these are popular in foreign countries, but not in the U.S.
The way I understand it, when you finish pooping, some clean water
sprays and cleans your butt. I'm guessing there is a lever or button to
make it spray. I have to ask, out of curiousity. Do people still use
toilet paper? If not, I'd think this Bidet would pay for itself on T.P.
savings, and for those who have septic systems, would save on tank
pumping costs.

I'm considering trying to find one of these, assuming it fits in the
same space as a standard toilet, especially if it saves on T.P. Not that
T.P. is a huge expense, but pumping my septic is costly, and more than
once the sewer pipe has frozen on winter due to a wad of T.P. sitting in
the pipe. The pipes were installed properly, but the tank is over 100Ft.
from the house so there is a lot of distance for solids to travel. I've
even gone so far as to toss the used T.P. in a waste basket (with lid)
during the winter to prevent annoying and costly pipe clogs.

I wonder why U.S. people dont want clean butts

Where traditional bidets are used, they are in addition to a standard
toilet. There are fancy Japanese toilets costing up to $10K,
that combine a bidet function into the toilet, including electronic
controls, etc. AFAIK, you still use TP with those too.

On 10/02/2015 10:31 AM, wrote:
Bidet (is that the right word)?

I know that these are popular in foreign countries, but not in the U.S.
The way I understand it, when you finish pooping, some clean water
sprays and cleans your butt. I'm guessing there is a lever or button to
make it spray. I have to ask, out of curiousity. Do people still use
toilet paper? If not, I'd think this Bidet would pay for itself on T.P.
savings, and for those who have septic systems, would save on tank
pumping costs.
[snipped]

I wonder why U.S. people dont want clean butts


If you eat a lot of commercial hydrogenated cheese, you'll likely have stickey-gooey poop.
A bidet won't wash that away so you'll still need toilet paper and maybe some Scotch Brite.

Uncle Poop Meister posted for all of us...



If you eat a lot of commercial hydrogenated cheese, you'll likely have stickey-gooey poop.
A bidet won't wash that away so you'll still need toilet paper and maybe some Scotch Brite.

Maybe a wire wheel?

--
Tekkie

On 10/05/2015 04:36 PM, Tekkie® wrote:

Uncle Poop Meister posted for all of us...



If you eat a lot of commercial hydrogenated cheese, you'll likely have stickey-gooey poop.
A bidet won't wash that away so you'll still need toilet paper and maybe some Scotch Brite.

Maybe a wire wheel?


Wouldn't that literally fling dingle berries all over?

Sort of like a dingle berry Gatling gun?

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:31:28 -0500,
wrote:

Bidet (is that the right word)?

I know that these are popular in foreign countries, but not in the U.S.
The way I understand it, when you finish pooping, some clean water

You're talking about a combination toilet-bidet. A mere bidet doesn't
permit pooping because it has no adequate flushing.

I may have posted here about the apartment remodel I wired. Despite
the ritzy n'hood, the building qualified as a tenement, I think, because
it had only one bathroom per floor. The owner, who planned to rent it,
I think, thought that would be a big drawback. She couldn't get
permission to put a toilet in the aparment because the drain pipe for
one is rather large (you may have noticed.) But she could get
permission to install a bidet, which she had done. The bidet-only used
the same size drain as the sink. She expected that it would be used
only for urination, but people do that a lot more often.

Of course when I broke my leg and it took 16 hours to get to the
hostpital, and maybe the orthopedist didnt' set it right or didn't keep
me in bed long enough, and I was in a hotel with only a sink and no
bathroom in my room, and I could only stand for 30 seconds before the
pain was enormous, I learned that a sink can be used for more than
washing one's hands. But even then, not for pooping.

sprays and cleans your butt. I'm guessing there is a lever or button to
make it spray. I have to ask, out of curiousity. Do people still use
toilet paper?

If it's a toilet, I think so. If it's a mere bidet, I guess not
because there's no adequate way to get rid of the toilet paper. Except
the waste basket. You'd have to ask a woman and not too many read this
group.

If not, I'd think this Bidet would pay for itself on T.P.
savings, and for those who have septic systems, would save on tank
pumping costs.

I'm considering trying to find one of these, assuming it fits in the
same space as a standard toilet, especially if it saves on T.P. Not that
T.P. is a huge expense, but pumping my septic is costly, and more than
once the sewer pipe has frozen on winter due to a wad of T.P. sitting in
the pipe. The pipes were installed properly, but the tank is over 100Ft.
from the house so there is a lot of distance for solids to travel. I've
even gone so far as to toss the used T.P. in a waste basket (with lid)
during the winter to prevent annoying and costly pipe clogs.

I wonder why U.S. people dont want clean butts

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 02 Oct 2015 11:22:25 -0400, micky
wrote:


I may have posted here about the apartment remodel I wired. Despite
the ritzy n'hood, the building qualified as a tenement, I think, because
it had only one bathroom per floor. The owner, who planned to rent it,
I think, thought that would be a big drawback. She couldn't get
permission to put a toilet in the aparment because the drain pipe for
one is rather large (you may have noticed.)

Of course she could have gotten permission if she'd been willing to pay
for a large drain all the way from her bathroom, on the second or third
floor, to some place where it would connect to the a large drain. Big
bucks.

But she could get
permission to install a bidet, which she had done. The bidet-only used
the same size drain as the sink. She expected that it would be used
only for urination, but people do that a lot more often.

wrote:

Bidet (is that the right word)?

I know that these are popular in foreign countries, but not in the
U.S. The way I understand it, when you finish pooping, some clean
water sprays and cleans your butt. I'm guessing there is a lever or
button to make it spray. I have to ask, out of curiousity. Do people
still use toilet paper? If not, I'd think this Bidet would pay for
itself on T.P. savings, and for those who have septic systems, would
save on tank pumping costs.

I'm considering trying to find one of these, assuming it fits in the
same space as a standard toilet, especially if it saves on T.P. Not
that T.P. is a huge expense, but pumping my septic is costly, and
more than once the sewer pipe has frozen on winter due to a wad of
T.P. sitting in the pipe. The pipes were installed properly, but the
tank is over 100Ft. from the house so there is a lot of distance for
solids to travel. I've even gone so far as to toss the used T.P. in a
waste basket (with lid) during the winter to prevent annoying and
costly pipe clogs.

I wonder why U.S. people dont want clean butts

When I was in Turkey a couple months ago I was pleasantly pleased with
the toilets there. There is an additional spout near the top of the
bowl with a separate water valve that you control. It sprays water
toward you and you can adjust the aim by moving your butt around a bit.
The toilet wasn't anything fancy and all it had was an extra hole and
extra valve and hose. http://www.thisisturkey.net/images/toilet.JPG

On 10/2/2015 10:31 AM, wrote:
Bidet (is that the right word)?

I know that these are popular in foreign countries, but not in the
U.S. The way I understand it, when you finish pooping, some clean
water sprays and cleans your butt. I'm guessing there is a lever or
button to make it spray. I have to ask, out of curiousity. Do people
still use toilet paper? If not, I'd think this Bidet would pay for
itself on T.P. savings, and for those who have septic systems, would
save on tank pumping costs.

I'm considering trying to find one of these, assuming it fits in the
same space as a standard toilet, especially if it saves on T.P. Not
that T.P. is a huge expense, but pumping my septic is costly, and
more than once the sewer pipe has frozen on winter due to a wad of
T.P. sitting in the pipe. The pipes were installed properly, but the
tank is over 100Ft. from the house so there is a lot of distance for
solids to travel. I've even gone so far as to toss the used T.P. in a
waste basket (with lid) during the winter to prevent annoying and
costly pipe clogs.

I wonder why U.S. people dont want clean butts


If you are young and don't have any hemorrhoids or other anatomic issues
in that location, and your stool is always fairly dry and firm, you
might be "clean" after a bidet spray. However, you're probably at least
borderline constipated. For those of us who have lived longer and don't
have pristine anatomy down there, or have softer stool due to any one of
many possible causes, the bidet is definitely insufficient to prevent
skid marks. Only the use of toilet paper can do the job that needs to
be done.

On 10/02/2015 12:20 PM, Retirednoguilt wrote:

[snip]

If you are young and don't have any hemorrhoids or other anatomic issues
in that location, and your stool is always fairly dry and firm, you
might be "clean" after a bidet spray. However, you're probably at least
borderline constipated. For those of us who have lived longer and don't
have pristine anatomy down there, or have softer stool due to any one of
many possible causes, the bidet is definitely insufficient to prevent
skid marks. Only the use of toilet paper can do the job that needs to
be done.

But you can use a lot less. This also almost eliminates overflowing
toilets (from too much paper).

--
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AM for 1 day).

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"Sex education classes are like in-home sales parties for abortions."
[Phyllis Schlafly]

Mark,

I'd think that it would take a huge wad to dry out your dripping butt. I
don't see a saving here. What's your plan?

Dave M.

On 10/2/2015 3:51 PM, David L. Martel wrote:
Mark,

I'd think that it would take a huge wad to dry out your dripping
butt. I don't see a saving here. What's your plan?

Dave M.

All of the bidet seats I've seen also have warm-air dryers built in.

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 2 Oct 2015 15:56:31 -0700, sms
wrote:

On 10/2/2015 3:51 PM, David L. Martel wrote:
Mark,

I'd think that it would take a huge wad to dry out your dripping
butt. I don't see a saving here. What's your plan?

Dave M.

All of the bidet seats I've seen also have warm-air dryers built in.

Who has time to wait that long. And if I have time, I still don't want
to wait.

I won't use the hot air hand dryers in public bathrooms for the same
reason, but mostly because of the noise.

On 10/02/2015 05:51 PM, David L. Martel wrote:
Mark,

I'd think that it would take a huge wad to dry out your dripping
butt. I don't see a saving here. What's your plan?

Dave M.


It doesn't take that much, and it's clean so only one wipe needed.

--
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AM for 1 day).

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

Jesus is real! I saw him at a party last week, he was playing quarters
with Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny

On 10/02/2015 09:31 AM, wrote:
Bidet (is that the right word)?

I know that these are popular in foreign countries, but not in the U.S.
The way I understand it, when you finish pooping, some clean water
sprays and cleans your butt. I'm guessing there is a lever or button to
make it spray. I have to ask, out of curiousity. Do people still use
toilet paper? If not, I'd think this Bidet would pay for itself on T.P.
savings, and for those who have septic systems, would save on tank
pumping costs.

I'm considering trying to find one of these, assuming it fits in the
same space as a standard toilet, especially if it saves on T.P. Not that
T.P. is a huge expense, but pumping my septic is costly, and more than
once the sewer pipe has frozen on winter due to a wad of T.P. sitting in
the pipe. The pipes were installed properly, but the tank is over 100Ft.
from the house so there is a lot of distance for solids to travel. I've
even gone so far as to toss the used T.P. in a waste basket (with lid)
during the winter to prevent annoying and costly pipe clogs.

I wonder why U.S. people dont want clean butts




A bidet is for woman...

that should be enough info.

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:31:28 -0500, wrote:

I wonder why U.S. people dont want clean butts

Home Guy is at his usual assault on Americans.

Smart Americas use a corn cob or a J.C.Penny catalog for striking
their ass cheeks.

He cannot define what a "wonder" is!!

wrote:
Bidet (is that the right word)?

I know that these are popular in foreign countries, but not in the
U.S. The way I understand it, when you finish pooping, some clean
water sprays and cleans your butt. I'm guessing there is a lever or
button to make it spray. I have to ask, out of curiousity. Do people
still use toilet paper? If not, I'd think this Bidet would pay for
itself on T.P. savings, and for those who have septic systems, would
save on tank pumping costs.

I'm considering trying to find one of these, assuming it fits in the
same space as a standard toilet, especially if it saves on T.P. Not
that T.P. is a huge expense, but pumping my septic is costly, and
more than once the sewer pipe has frozen on winter due to a wad of
T.P. sitting in the pipe. The pipes were installed properly, but the
tank is over 100Ft. from the house so there is a lot of distance for
solids to travel. I've even gone so far as to toss the used T.P. in a
waste basket (with lid) during the winter to prevent annoying and
costly pipe clogs.

I wonder why U.S. people dont want clean butts

Possibly because the use of corncobs is in the not so distant past. For me,
I prefer other methodology which is why I installed a bidet a couple of
weeks ago.

Not a full blown, porcelain fixture (no room and wouldn't want one), not a
seat with one built in (ridiculously pricey) but a separate unit that fits
UNDER the toilet seat. They are in the $20 to $100 range, most $30-$60,
mine was $30, all have plastic cases, mine has brass innards. Check Amazon.

Easy install...take off toilet seat, set bidet gizmo on throne, replace
seat, hook gizmo to tank inlet using the included "T" and you are in
business. They have a valve, flow is adjustable. The flow emanates from a
small tube at the rear center which partially retracts when there is no
flow. Some units have a slide to slightly change the angle of the tube. Some
have a mixing valve which means you also have to hook to hot water too or
buy a unit with a heater which means an electrical outlet. Cold water is
fine for me.

Now as to their effectiveness: I am told I have hemorrhoids but I have never
looked. Since installing the thing I have passed things close to the size
of a pony penis and other that looks like cow plop. And all in between.
The bidet has worked well. Yes, you still have to use toilet paper if only
to dry your butt but mostly to aid in the removal of residual material
before squirting yourself again. Moving your butt to direct the stream most
effectively helps.

Do I like it? Resounding YES! I am 82, back has seen better days, all
joints are stiff, overweight too...all make reaching one's nether regions
difficult and this has been a big help. I'm saving a bundle on TP too, will
save more because my (younger and still agile) wife wants one too.

On 10/02/2015 08:31 AM, wrote:
The way I understand it, when you finish pooping, some clean water
sprays and cleans your butt. I'm guessing there is a lever or button to
make it spray. I have to ask, out of curiousity. Do people still use
toilet paper? If not, I'd think this Bidet would pay for itself on T.P.
savings, and for those who have septic systems, would save on tank
pumping costs.

Crapping in a traditional bidet is as gauche as it gets. Separate
fixture, next to the toilet. Think of it as a funny looking sink.

On 10/2/2015 10:31 AM, wrote:
Bidet (is that the right word)?


I wonder why U.S. people dont want clean butts


We do, by day.

Butt... butt.... ah, nevermind.

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posted for all of us...



Bidet (is that the right word)?

I know that these are popular in foreign countries, but not in the U.S.
The way I understand it, when you finish pooping, some clean water
sprays and cleans your butt. I'm guessing there is a lever or button to
make it spray. I have to ask, out of curiousity. Do people still use
toilet paper? If not, I'd think this Bidet would pay for itself on T.P.
savings, and for those who have septic systems, would save on tank
pumping costs.

I'm considering trying to find one of these, assuming it fits in the
same space as a standard toilet, especially if it saves on T.P. Not that
T.P. is a huge expense, but pumping my septic is costly, and more than
once the sewer pipe has frozen on winter due to a wad of T.P. sitting in
the pipe. The pipes were installed properly, but the tank is over 100Ft.
from the house so there is a lot of distance for solids to travel. I've
even gone so far as to toss the used T.P. in a waste basket (with lid)
during the winter to prevent annoying and costly pipe clogs.

I wonder why U.S. people dont want clean butts

I didn't read all replies so far but there are two separate issues.

Do you use the correct TP for septic systems? Charmin and and the other ones
will clog like you describe. Look for ones that say safe for septic systems
on the wrapper and are NOT colored. The wrong TP also does not break down as
easily and will build up in the tank. If it is lodging in the piping then it
not properly sloped or there is some kind of obstruction. Also don't flush
improper objects: tampons, wipes... If you really want to be clean buy the
cheap wipies for peri care and throw them in the plastic bag the store gives
you and dispose. Do not flush wipies that say they are flushable. They are
for travel only where they are probably connected to a municipal sewer
system. Even they have problems with this type.

How often do you get it pumped?

Bidet: Do you want a wet butt under your undies?

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Tekkie